I should phrase the question, "Can I lose root if I do not update with an HTC/TMO update?".
I walked through guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300) to root my Sensation and it worked with no issues. I had the root phone for several weeks and decided to try a couple new ROMs. I did my due diligence and did a full backup with Titanium and then a CM backup. The problem arose when I flashed in the Revolution HD ROM. Once installed, I could not get Titanium to work. It kept saying it could not get root permission. I checked SuperUser, and it was there, but would not prompt to allow root access for any of my apps. I restored back to my original ROM and again, I do not seem to have root. All my applications are there, SuperUser is set to prompt me when an app requests root, but none of the root apps will work anymore. I grabbed a root checking app off the market, and it says it cannot obtain root too. I checked fastboot and it still shows S-OFF. I've never had this issue with any of my other Android devices once I rooted them. I was able to get my root access back by following step 3 of the guide, but I'm curious how I lost root by flashing in another custom ROM. Any ideas?
You didn't lose root you lost root access. It happened with two of my nandroids from CWM. I just erased them and started over from a fresh rom install and everything was fine. It kinda suxs though lol when SU tells you it can't get access. There are a few if us that this happened too. Its been mentioned in yje Clockwork thread.
I did the update just now and thought everything went well. This is my first time. Someone else put infused 2.1.0 on phone and everything that goes along with that. I followed the directions in beginning of post to manually do the update. Now all my root apps are telling me i'm not rooted. I rebooted, took battery out and back in. I have read entire Infused post and no one has had this issue? Before i started i went into ROM manager and made a back up first.
Not sure what to do now??
R you doweling of a OTA update or rom update I'm assuming rom. Is your supper user still available in your app drawer if so go into the setting and make sure its on. If not I recommended unbrick to stock and re-flash make you directions are followed to the T
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Um SU is still in app drawrer. Not sure how to turn on or off. It is working ...that is, it is denying everything.
LG_iiNsTiiNcT said:
R you doweling of a OTA update or rom update I'm assuming rom. Is your supper user still available in your app drawer if so go into the setting and make sure its on. If not I recommended unbrick to stock and re-flash make you directions are followed to the T
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Can i restore the backup i did before the update? Will that take me back to 2.1.0 where all was well?
Just do a reboot, all your app will work after that
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I did reboot. I have NO ROOT after this update but everything else is fine. All apps are there...but my root apps say i don't hve root. I d/l root checker from mkt and it says it;'s there but the binary isn't up to date or installed incorrectly. within SU i tried updating the binary and it fails.????
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I did reboot. I have NO ROOT after this update but everything else is fine. All apps are there...but my root apps say i don't hve root. I d/l root checker from mkt and it says it;'s there but the binary isn't up to date or installed incorrectly. within SU i tried updating the binary and it fails.????
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does anyone know anything about the issue?? Please. When i was rooted of course i got the SU app. I updated the SU app on mkt recently.to 3.0 .a week or so ago..everything was fine and working. Does anyone know ..maybe uninstall the updates to SU and see if it works? I am really stumpd as to why i lost root.
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does anyone know anything about the issue?? Please. When i was rooted of course i got the SU app. I updated the SU app on mkt recently.to 3.0 .a week or so ago..everything was fine and working. Does anyone know ..maybe uninstall the updates to SU and see if it works? I am really stumpd as to why i lost root.
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Uninstall the update
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ok. i uninstalled the update to SU. rebooted. all Root apps still don't work and say i'm not rooted. NOW though. SU doesn't even come on and say denied. ....
Rooted just means you have the su app and can give su permissions to apps. If apps are asking for su permissions and not getting them it's the same as not being rooted as far as the app is concerned. Go into you super user app and see what has permissions and what doesn't, try to reset the settings.
update 2.1.0-2.2.3 LOST ROOT???
Just a recap...i was rooted running infused 2.1.0 and had and used rooted apps. I did the update 2.1.0-2.2.3 infused update then all of a sudden i couldn't get into titanium backup or any of my rooted apps. every time i open one SU denies it. I d/l root checker from mkt and it finds SU 3.0 on phone but says im either not rooted correctly or not at all. it gives me a log but i can't make heads or tails of it..so , if someone could I can PM you the log. I checked my SU permisions/settings...it should work...doesn't ands won't allow a thing. How did I lose ROOT? I followed the manual instructions in post.
All of this is related to me updating to 2.2.3 infused ROM. however, i have read the eintire forum front to back twice and no one has lost root because of the update...I even tried installing busybox but it fails because it says i am NOT rooted. I uninstalled the update to SU 3.0..that didn't work.
GTG-- I PM'd you days ago asking for your input on the upgrade but didn't hear back...upgrade done...issue...lost root....any ideas??
upgrade infused 2.1.0-2.2.3
Anyone out there with an idea? I haven't heard of anyone losing root having done this upgrade. Could i possibly still be rooted but maybe a setting got messed up somewhere? a file moved??
Still looking for answers...thanks
I have been through this many times before, you can do two usually the root access comes back after a reboot, since it didn't for you here are couple things you should consider to do
1) uninstall superuser than download again from market. Or
1) flash the rom again from scratch
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I have been through this many times before, you can do two usually the root access comes back after a reboot, since it didn't for you here are couple things you should consider to do
1) uninstall superuser than download again from market. Or
1) flash the rom again from scratch
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well, since SU came from root and is a system app and apprently i am not rooted so i can not remove a system app I can uninstall the SU upgrade i did from mkt...which i did and rebooted, no luck. are you or anyone familiar with the "root checker" app? i can send a log if anyone can make sense out of it.
maruf010 i earlier post i said this is the first time i have tried anything like this with my phone ...i had soneone else root and install infused 2.1.0...i only attempeted the upgrade so...wonder if you can PM me and if you can maybe walk me through your second option?
I'm running out of ideas bro, I consider my self a "Rom flashing junky " flashing from one rom to another since my first captivate! let's do this again step by step, hoping this time it'll work..... make sure to transfer "titanium backup " folder to your computer before doing this. You can use it back later.
1) run gtg's back to stock using Odin
2) root the phone using super one click
3) drop all three the the new rom(2.1.0),
update v2.2.3, and the community kernel
4) download sgs kernel flasher from market
5) flash the community kernel, wait about 10 min let it do its thing till your phone comes back to live
5) power off the phone
6) using 3 button combo go to RED clockworkmod
7) install zip from SD card (flash the actual rom 2.1.0)
8) flash the update ( from 2.1.0 to v2.2.3)
8) finally do a wipe/factory reset
9) install titanium backup from market
10) restore your "missing app with data" only.
I know you did everything what i just said but my suggestion is to you ,do this again.
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upgrade 2.1.0-2.2.3 LOST ROOT
Well, lesson to all. make a back up no matter what you do. Shouldn't of had to with an update but....since i did do a back up ..I AM BACK to 2.1.0 where i guess the saying is true...if it aint broke don't fix it. all is well..root back!. If I try going back to 2.2.3 i will do full install.
Thanks to everyone who had an opinion. weirdest thing ever...still bugs me why the ONLY this wrong with the upgrade was i seemingly lost root.
Glad u found a fix bro!
upgrade 2.1.0-2.2.3-LOST ROOT
Thanks!!! I'm all happy again. If anyone else has this issue...i really do beleive it is SU. Look at it on the mkt..since the 3.0 upgrade there have been many issues. I uninstalled the 3.0 SU upgrade and now i'm back to 2.6.3.1 BUT my binary is 3.0. I have yet to trythe infused upgrade again...IF (and when) i do it may not work because of my binary BUT all is well back on unfused 2.1.0!! No way to uninstall binary upgrade to SU i guess.
IF IT AINT BROKE--DON'T FIX IT..YEAH RIGHT ! LIKE WE ALL WON'T KEEP ROMMING!
upgraded infused 2.1.0-2.2.3 lost root
I am still having this issue when trying to upgrade infused from 2.1.0-2.2.3!!! Can someone answer this? The upgrade goes fine but then SU thinks im not rooted and then i can not restore any back ups cause titanium won't work. I haven't tried full zip only because i do not want to have to fetch all my apps again...zzz. I t looks like a lot of people have moved on to MIUI but i want to conquer this first..hahha
NOw, in the CWM instructions it says if you have a voodoo folder on your sd card delete it..well, that is for first time install....if i am trying the upgrade should i still delete the voodoo folder on my sd card? then move on to steop 7?? I reallly doi not want to delete something i may need. Inside that folder it is a log folder but in that log folder there are some CWM-recoveries..???
oh, and not sure if this matters all all but whn flashing upgrades or full ROM does it matter what you have your file system mounted as??
Anyone out there?? I just tried the update again and same thing...SU won't work...tried going into CWM and , download rom, super user, and i d/l SU from ther but then it says press ok to boot into recovery and finish unstalling...i press ok and nothing happens. I manually go into recovery...then what? Where did the download go and how do i finish installing SU??
PLEASE anyone...also, there is an option in recovery to "apply the update" Never used that one before...i just install from SD then pick the update...do i have to "apply update" after install then reboot?
Q] Root "disabled" itself!? (Rooted phone that is no longer allowing root access)
Anyone here with a modded Galaxy S3 phone (or any) - that is rooted - have it just seemingly act as if it is no longer rooted? or unjustly denying root access for no apparent reason....
Have been rooted since purchase and have never seen or had any issue with this..have flashed custom recovery and rom's hundreds of times...no problems...currently using Task's latest KK 4.4.4 rom and had no issues from beginning...
It comes with SuperUser...i do usually install SuperSU instead but hadn't tried yet...it was fine and apps that needed root appeared ok..even SuperUser has three or four listed apps in the "allow" section...but all of a sudden I can't seem to give root access to anything else now..
First noticed the other day when trying to sideload an apk..couldn't...tried to do it manually by just copying it to system/apps folder and that's when the first message came up saying "it appears your device may not be rooted"...quite odd I thought.. i then tried to install SuperSU and it when SuperUser popped up to give it allowable root access it would only timeout and say denied...i then tried a bunch of other apps that require root and they would all just get denied by SuperUser...
Anyone seen this before or know what causes this and/or how to fix?
THanks for any help or suggestions
ps.. i'm no noob and have been doing this a long time and have rooted/modded dozens of phones, hundreds of times...but this issue is a new one for me.. IF i have to completely wipe and even go back to stock image and then start over to re-root and re-mod... I will and can do so easily..but that would be last resort if necessary...thanks!
pchemerys said:
Anyone here with a modded Galaxy S3 phone (or any) - that is rooted - have it just seemingly act as if it is no longer rooted? or unjustly denying root access for no apparent reason....
Have been rooted since purchase and have never seen or had any issue with this..have flashed custom recovery and rom's hundreds of times...no problems...currently using Task's latest KK 4.4.4 rom and had no issues from beginning...
It comes with SuperUser...i do usually install SuperSU instead but hadn't tried yet...it was fine and apps that needed root appeared ok..even SuperUser has three or four listed apps in the "allow" section...but all of a sudden I can't seem to give root access to anything else now..
First noticed the other day when trying to sideload an apk..couldn't...tried to do it manually by just copying it to system/apps folder and that's when the first message came up saying "it appears your device may not be rooted"...quite odd I thought.. i then tried to install SuperSU and it when SuperUser popped up to give it allowable root access it would only timeout and say denied...i then tried a bunch of other apps that require root and they would all just get denied by SuperUser...
Anyone seen this before or know what causes this and/or how to fix?
THanks for any help or suggestions
ps.. i'm no noob and have been doing this a long time and have rooted/modded dozens of phones, hundreds of times...but this issue is a new one for me.. IF i have to completely wipe and even go back to stock image and then start over to re-root and re-mod... I will and can do so easily..but that would be last resort if necessary...thanks!
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i have no explanation for what happened, actually never heard it happen before.
why not try to re-root and see what happens. if that doesn't work, i would think your only option would be to flash it clean and start over.
Reroot. Or unroot then reroot.
yeah i was thinking that might have to be done.. was hoping not and that this was some sort of known or fixable issue...but may have no choice..will wait another couple days to see if i find anything and do it if no other option..
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yeah i was thinking that might have to be done.. was hoping not and that this was some sort of known or fixable issue...but may have no choice..will wait another couple days to see if i find anything and do it if no other option..
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well, i haven't seen any root methods that require wiping the phone, so why wait to try re-rooting?
I would try a new busybox with kinguser and reroot.
So last night I was using My Backup Pro to back up my files before I tried flashing the new CM for our phone and noticed that I didn't have busybox installed. I installed it and backed the phone up overnight. In the morning I noticed that my WiFi wouldn't turn on and that I couldn't flash anything. Ran root checker and my root is bad now. Anyone else experience any problems with rootbox? That and backing up my stuff are the only things I've done different lately. My phone is rooted with towelroot and bumped. I really don't feel like unrooting and returning back to stock to start the process over again but IDK how to fix the root. Root checker gives these error messages.....
Don't know much about the code, anyone have any suggestions?
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So last night I was using My Backup Pro to back up my files before I tried flashing the new CM for our phone and noticed that I didn't have busybox installed. I installed it and backed the phone up overnight. In the morning I noticed that my WiFi wouldn't turn on and that I couldn't flash anything. Ran root checker and my root is bad now. Anyone else experience any problems with rootbox? That and backing up my stuff are the only things I've done different lately. My phone is rooted with towelroot and bumped. I really don't feel like unrooting and returning back to stock to start the process over again but IDK how to fix the root. Root checker gives these error messages.....
Don't know much about the code, anyone have any suggestions?
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What does SuperSU or Superuser state when opened? Have you updated the binary or is that even an option?
Everything was up to date when I checked last night and supersu was working fine. I ended up unrooting and reverting back to stock and starting from scratch.
About a month ago I accidentally deleted 2 su files trying to get another app to work. And the app didn't work so I moved on from that situation. A little later that day I tried to use one of my apps that required root and I forgot about the files I deleted, so I uninstalled super user from the settings. Today I tried to use android pay and it says I'm rooted but I used root checker and it says I'm not rooted. I also can't access recovery or bootloader. Is there any way I can fix this so I can use android pay? Thanks.