[Q] Root method - Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have an ASUS TF300T running stock 4.2.1 build JOP400D_epad-10.6.1.27.5-20130902. I'd really like to, at a minimum, root this thing so I can boost it up a little bit. And at the most, install another ROM like CM 11.
I've rooted other machines (Droid Incredible, and my current Droid Razr) so I am not a novice by far. But after searching around I am finding that I can't really determine the 'best' method for rooting the TF300T. By best I mean - easiest and safest. With this in mind, can someone suggest the best method (and URL) for rooting the TF300T? And if I want to go so far as putting CM 11 on it (like I did for my phone) can Safestrap be run on this tablet? Any caveats?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. I might mention I use a Mac, so if whatever root method can run on a Mac that would be great. Otherwise if the method can work under a Win 7 VM (VirtualBox) that would be fine too.
-Tom

SimpTheChimp said:
I have an ASUS TF300T running stock 4.2.1 build JOP400D_epad-10.6.1.27.5-20130902. I'd really like to, at a minimum, root this thing so I can boost it up a little bit. And at the most, install another ROM like CM 11.
I've rooted other machines (Droid Incredible, and my current Droid Razr) so I am not a novice by far. But after searching around I am finding that I can't really determine the 'best' method for rooting the TF300T. By best I mean - easiest and safest. With this in mind, can someone suggest the best method (and URL) for rooting the TF300T? And if I want to go so far as putting CM 11 on it (like I did for my phone) can Safestrap be run on this tablet? Any caveats?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. I might mention I use a Mac, so if whatever root method can run on a Mac that would be great. Otherwise if the method can work under a Win 7 VM (VirtualBox) that would be fine too.
-Tom
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I don't know about safestrap, but this is one of the pickiest tablets when it comes to ROMs: One mismatched bootloader, and it becomes an expensive paperweight.
There are several root methods in the General Forum if thats all you want to do.
For Customs ROMs, you will have to first unlock the bootloader, then update to the latest stock ROM, install the right TWRP, then pick the corresponding ROM. Never click wipe data in the bootloader menu.

cmendonc2 said:
I don't know about safestrap, but this is one of the pickiest tablets when it comes to ROMs: One mismatched bootloader, and it becomes an expensive paperweight.
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Yeah, that's my worry, from what I read it seems this is a very 'picky' tablet - and I don't want to blow it up... so maybe I'll just start with rooting it. That way I can at least customize a few things, get rid of bloatware, etc. Hopefully that will help it a bit.
cmendonc2 said:
There are several root methods in the General Forum if thats all you want to do.
For Customs ROMs, you will have to first unlock the bootloader, then update to the latest stock ROM, install the right TWRP, then pick the corresponding ROM. Never click wipe data in the bootloader menu.
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So what would you consider the 'easiest' and 'safest' of the root methods shown in the general forum? Any suggestions? Also, I assume the latest stock ROM is still the 4.2.1 build JOP400D_epad-10.6.1.27.5-20130902? I haven't got anything newer yet via System Update. That's why I was thinking of going to CM 11 like I did on my phone - to get Kit Kit. We'll probably never get it directly from ASUS....
-Tom

SimpTheChimp said:
Yeah, that's my worry, from what I read it seems this is a very 'picky' tablet - and I don't want to blow it up... so maybe I'll just start with rooting it. That way I can at least customize a few things, get rid of bloatware, etc. Hopefully that will help it a bit.
So what would you consider the 'easiest' and 'safest' of the root methods shown in the general forum? Any suggestions? Also, I assume the latest stock ROM is still the 4.2.1 build JOP400D_epad-10.6.1.27.5-20130902? I haven't got anything newer yet via System Update. That's why I was thinking of going to CM 11 like I did on my phone - to get Kit Kit. We'll probably never get it directly from ASUS....
-Tom
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To root, you can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685628

cmendonc2 said:
To root, you can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685628
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Hmm, I'll give this a try. So is this what you used to get root on your TF300T? It looks like it works for a variety of different machines.
Does this only do root? Or also bootloader unlock so you can run other ROMS? Also, if for whatever reason I had to revert root and reinstall stock, will that work after rooting with this method?
Thanks!

SimpTheChimp said:
Hmm, I'll give this a try. So is this what you used to get root on your TF300T? It looks like it works for a variety of different machines.
Does this only do root? Or also bootloader unlock so you can run other ROMS? Also, if for whatever reason I had to revert root and reinstall stock, will that work after rooting with this method?
Thanks!
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This does ONLY root. Your bootloader is still unlocked, but if you reinstall stock, the root will be removed. If you do choose to unlock your bootloader, it can never be relocked and your warranty is forever void.

cmendonc2 said:
This does ONLY root. Your bootloader is still unlocked, but if you reinstall stock, the root will be removed. If you do choose to unlock your bootloader, it can never be relocked and your warranty is forever void.
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OK cool, I'll give it a shot. I'll first start with root and see if I can then optimize the tablet to run a little bit better (and get rid of the bloatware). Then later on I may consider unlocking the bootloader and trying another ROM - especially KitKat.
-Tom

cmendonc2 said:
This does ONLY root. Your bootloader is still unlocked, but if you reinstall stock, the root will be removed. If you do choose to unlock your bootloader, it can never be relocked and your warranty is forever void.
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CMendonc2:
IT WORKED! Not only that, it was easy and quick!
Thanks!

SimpTheChimp said:
CMendonc2:
IT WORKED! Not only that, it was easy and quick!
Thanks!
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Glad to hear it! Don't be afraid to ask any other questions

cmendonc2 said:
Glad to hear it! Don't be afraid to ask any other questions
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OK cmendonc2, I like having root, but I think I am about ready to unlock this baby and put on another ROM. I know the risks, and that my warranty will be voided - but I've had this a couple of years so it's not under warranty anyway.
So... I got the ASUS Bootloader unlocker program from the ASUS site; and I have what I believe is the latest TWRP. Is there a good place for instructions on how to unlock this thing and install a new ROM? I know it can be picky so I want to do it right and not brick it.
Also any suggestions on a good ROM? I was thinking CM 11, but I've also heard good things about OmniROM.
Thanks.
-Tom

SimpTheChimp said:
OK cmendonc2, I like having root, but I think I am about ready to unlock this baby and put on another ROM. I know the risks, and that my warranty will be voided - but I've had this a couple of years so it's not under warranty anyway.
So... I got the ASUS Bootloader unlocker program from the ASUS site; and I have what I believe is the latest TWRP. Is there a good place for instructions on how to unlock this thing and install a new ROM? I know it can be picky so I want to do it right and not brick it.
Also any suggestions on a good ROM? I was thinking CM 11, but I've also heard good things about OmniROM.
Thanks.
-Tom
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OK so you have bootloader 10.6.1.27.5. That's the latest version, so you don't have to worry about upgrading stock. This TWRP (http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407579270) is compatible with the bootloader. Download any 4.4.4 ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf300t/development. Then download the latest GAPPS from here: http://goo.gl/ZcwCW9.
After unlocking, extract the TWRP blob and put it on your SD card. type this into Terminal Emulator on your tablet:
Code:
su
dd if=/sdcard/twrp.blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4
Then restart and go into TWRP. Wipe Data and cache, then install your new ROM and gapps.

cmendonc2 said:
OK so you have bootloader 10.6.1.27.5. That's the latest version, so you don't have to worry about upgrading stock. This TWRP (http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407579270) is compatible with the bootloader. Download any 4.4.4 ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf300t/development. Then download the latest GAPPS from here: http://goo.gl/ZcwCW9.
After unlocking, extract the TWRP blob and put it on your SD card. type this into Terminal Emulator on your tablet:
Code:
su
dd if=/sdcard/twrp.blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4
Then restart and go into TWRP. Wipe Data and cache, then install your new ROM and gapps.
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Thanks, cmendonc2... I'll give this a shot tonight. I think KitKat will perform better on this tablet (I hope). I think I'll try OmniROM first.
BTW, I thought I read somewhere that there was one TWRP option (a specific Wipe option) that I was to NEVER use or I would brick the tablet. You know what that option is?
-Tom

SimpTheChimp said:
Thanks, cmendonc2... I'll give this a shot tonight. I think KitKat will perform better on this tablet (I hope). I think I'll try OmniROM first.
BTW, I thought I read somewhere that there was one TWRP option (a specific Wipe option) that I was to NEVER use or I would brick the tablet. You know what that option is?
-Tom
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Thats the Bootloader option "Wipe Data". You see that when u press vol down and power to get the three icons. It is the icon on the far right. Selecting that will result in an expensive paperweight.

SimpTheChimp said:
Thanks, cmendonc2... I'll give this a shot tonight. I think KitKat will perform better on this tablet (I hope). I think I'll try OmniROM first.
BTW, I thought I read somewhere that there was one TWRP option (a specific Wipe option) that I was to NEVER use or I would brick the tablet. You know what that option is?
-Tom
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OK I got the TWRP but when I extract it there is no .blob file. So what am I missing? There doesn't seem to be much in this .zip file.... I guess to do it the terminal way (seems the easiest to me) I need the blob file. I've googled left and right but I can't find a TWRP 2.7.0.1 blob.
Or would this ROM Manager app work?
UPDATE: Never mind, I figured out how to flash recovery using Fastboot on my Mac! TWRP is now installed and working! Going to try flashing OmniRom and see how that goes. So I think the only question I have left is: When I am flashing a new ROM (i.e. over the old stock) what wipe options in TWRP should I use first? Obviously cache and Dalvik, but which other ones? System? Data? For this first flash I obviously want/need to start fresh.

SimpTheChimp said:
OK I got the TWRP but when I extract it there is no .blob file. So what am I missing? There doesn't seem to be much in this .zip file.... I guess to do it the terminal way (seems the easiest to me) I need the blob file. I've googled left and right but I can't find a TWRP 2.7.0.1 blob.
Or would this ROM Manager app work?
UPDATE: Never mind, I figured out how to flash recovery using Fastboot on my Mac! TWRP is now installed and working! Going to try flashing OmniRom and see how that goes. So I think the only question I have left is: When I am flashing a new ROM (i.e. over the old stock) what wipe options in TWRP should I use first? Obviously cache and Dalvik, but which other ones? System? Data? For this first flash I obviously want/need to start fresh.
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For factory reset: wipe data, cache, dalvik
For dirty flash: wipe cache, dalvik cache

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[Q] thinking of installing a custom rom

i was thinking of unlocking my device and changing the rom.. however, ive permanently bricked this tablet for and had to have it repaired at a high cost, so im cautious.. i believe i fell victim to the having the twrp and resetting via the bootloader problem... how do i avoid this, how do i prevent this from happening again? i cant use nvflash, and is there any way of changing this annoying bootloader?
jason41987 said:
i was thinking of unlocking my device and changing the rom.. however, ive permanently bricked this tablet for and had to have it repaired at a high cost, so im cautious.. i believe i fell victim to the having the twrp and resetting via the bootloader problem... how do i avoid this, how do i prevent this from happening again? i cant use nvflash, and is there any way of changing this annoying bootloader?
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If using the wrong version of custom recovery vs bootloader can brick your device. The best way to approache this is, first upgrade your device to the latest JB .25, then unlock your device, then use fastboot to push your latest twrp recovery (2.3.3.0), then flash custom rom. Pretty much straiht forward without risk.
buhohitr said:
If using the wrong version of custom recovery vs bootloader can brick your device. The best way to approache this is, first upgrade your device to the latest JB .25, then unlock your device, then use fastboot to push your latest twrp recovery (2.3.3.0), then flash custom rom. Pretty much straiht forward without risk.
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do i still need twrp installed or do i use fastboot for that?.. also i had to downgrade to 9.4.5.30 to root it first, should i need some kind of root protection before upgrading back to JB?
jason41987 said:
do i still need twrp installed or do i use fastboot for that?.. also i had to downgrade to 9.4.5.30 to root it first, should i need some kind of root protection before upgrading back to JB?
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You don't need to root if you're unlocked because all custom roms are pre-rooted. Maybe this will be clearer;
Let pretend you're on JB, if you are on ICS, just use OTA upgrade to JB.
1. use Asus unlock tool to unlock (the tool will work with ICS or JB and very safe to use)
2. Use fastboot to push TWRPcustom recovery to your device
3. Boot into TWRP to flash custom rom (now have custom rom and rooted).
Done.
buhohitr said:
You don't need to root if you're unlocked because all custom roms are pre-rooted. Maybe this will be clearer;
Let pretend you're on JB, if you are on ICS, just use OTA upgrade to JB.
1. use Asus unlock tool to unlock (the tool will work with ICS or JB and very safe to use)
2. Use fastboot to push TWRPcustom recovery to your device
3. Boot into TWRP to flash custom rom (now have custom rom and rooted).
Done.
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what im confused about is using fastboot to push twrpcustom recovery, am i installing twrp in this step using fastboot?
jason41987 said:
what im confused about is using fastboot to push twrpcustom recovery, am i installing twrp in this step using fastboot?
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Yes, "fastboot flash recovery ... " installs a recovery.
I rooted mine when I had ICS and used OTA rootkeeper to OTA to JB to keep root. Unlocked it then used Goomananger (required root) app from the market to install TWRP. I like goomanager as you dont need to hook it up to your pc and was pretty easy. If you're already rooted I would go this route to install custom recovery.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
jason41987 said:
i was thinking of unlocking my device and changing the rom.. however, ive permanently bricked this tablet for and had to have it repaired at a high cost, so im cautious.. i believe i fell victim to the having the twrp and resetting via the bootloader problem... how do i avoid this, how do i prevent this from happening again? i cant use nvflash, and is there any way of changing this annoying bootloader?
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I was just as hesitant as you are. Took the leap yesterday and I am VERY happy I did. CROMI turns this baby into a whole new experience!
Just follow the instructions in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833212
Read it, follow all the links, read it again and when you feel you really understand the process, follow it step by step.
The whole process turned out to be a breeze - especially compared to the trepidation I had about this
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
any recommendations for some good ROMs?
jason41987 said:
any recommendations for some good ROMs?
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Best rom is CleanRom version 3.2.1.
ok.. well it seems i have twrp installed just fine now, used the fastboot method... im going to try cleanrom a bit, and try out the ubuntu LXDE rom as well, ill try cleanrom first
it looks as if everything was successful, and i made it past the stage that caused a brick before, so i would say im in the clear now, tried clean rom, pretty cool you can choose your stock launcher but i really want to experiment with ubuntu on it as well with a mouse and keyboard, see if i can replace my netbook with this

[Q] something like CMInstaller for my TF700?

Hi guys,
I'm a total noob regarding ROMs, root, etc..
My Infinity is getting really laggy, and I really need to bring it to a new life..
I was looking for an ideal CMInstaller situation like i used on my Galaxy Note N7000.. This little app is great cuz it does everything for us and noob users like myself don't need to be afraid to brick their devices..
Is there any really easy solution like this so I can safely flash my TF700?
TIA.
I think the answer is yes and no
I run CROMI-X on this tablet, but recently I download the latest CM and the link provided kept bouncing me to the Playstore to dl an installer app. I prefer to use my recovery, so I did not use it. But that's probably what you are looking for.
The thing is, on this device first you need to unlock the bootloader and push a custom recovery to it before you can even use an installer app. You also need to make sure that you have the correct bootloader installed before you flash the CM rom.
Check out the CM thread in the Development section.
CMInstaller so far is only compatible to most common Galaxy and nexus devices, and htc one.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/CyanogenMod_Installer#Supported_Devices
I am honestly afraid to flash my device without assistance because there are so many things to do and none of it seems easy.. I'm bootloader unlocked running stock 4.1.2, and the steps needed to take scare me..
1 - update to stock 4.2.1 (according to what I've read..)
2 - Root
3 - NVFlash
4 - Custom recovery
5 - Custom ROM
I don't even know if these steps are in proper order, but seems that so many things could go wrong.. Could you help me doing this easily and problem free? I need to do something to take full advantage of my TF700.. It clearly isn't working properly on stock.
Thanks.
madz78 said:
CMInstaller so far is only compatible to most common Galaxy and nexus devices, and htc one.
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/CyanogenMod_Installer#Supported_Devices
I am honestly afraid to flash my device without assistance because there are so many things to do and none of it seems easy.. I'm bootloader unlocked running stock 4.1.2, and the steps needed to take scare me..
1 - update to stock 4.2.1 (according to what I've read..)
2 - Root
3 - NVFlash
4 - Custom recovery
5 - Custom ROM
I don't even know if these steps are in proper order, but seems that so many things could go wrong.. Could you help me doing this easily and problem free? I need to do something to take full advantage of my TF700.. It clearly isn't working properly on stock.
Thanks.
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I recently wrote a tutorial on Android Central for people who are new to flashing. Check it out and if anything is left unclear - ask
http://forums.androidcentral.com/as...6920-tutorial-flashing-custom-rom-tf700t.html
Hi, I read the tutorial and I already have some questions even before i start..
- Can't my device be rooted? I believe I need root for apps to access superuser, and for performance menu (or overclock).
- Where's NVFlash? If NVFlash avoids bricking my device I believe this is a MUST have if I intend to grow and experiment different recoveries, kernels and ROMs.
- My device FW ver. is 10.4.4.18, do I need to update to 10.6.1.14.10 in order to continue, or can i do it from 10.4.4.18 and still take advantage of the loophole Motochopper exploited to gain root on this device?
Thanks.
madz78 said:
Hi, I read the tutorial and I already have some questions even before i start..
- Can't my device be rooted? I believe I need root for apps to access superuser, and for performance menu (or overclock).
- Where's NVFlash? If NVFlash avoids bricking my device I believe this is a MUST have if I intend to grow and experiment different recoveries, kernels and ROMs.
- My device FW ver. is 10.4.4.18, do I need to update to 10.6.1.14.10 in order to continue, or can i do it from 10.4.4.18 and still take advantage of the loophole Motochopper exploited to gain root on this device?
Thanks.
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You don't need to be rooted to flash a custom ROM. You can root from 14.8 as you don't need to go to 14.10. If you are on 10.4.4.18 you are on a really old boot loader for 4.1 and will need to upgrade if you want to unlock and flash the latest ROMs.
madz78 said:
Hi, I read the tutorial and I already have some questions even before i start..
- Can't my device be rooted? I believe I need root for apps to access superuser, and for performance menu (or overclock).
- Where's NVFlash? If NVFlash avoids bricking my device I believe this is a MUST have if I intend to grow and experiment different recoveries, kernels and ROMs.
- My device FW ver. is 10.4.4.18, do I need to update to 10.6.1.14.10 in order to continue, or can i do it from 10.4.4.18 and still take advantage of the loophole Motochopper exploited to gain root on this device?
Thanks.
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Jeez - where did you dig up this version? I believe that was one of the first JB versions? Yes, Motochopper should work, but: Why root if you can't use Goo Manager to get a custom recovery installed? If that is your goal....
Yes, you can just root the stock ROM, but it does not give you that many options to improve the performance of this tablet. And any custom rom is rooted - so why bother?
To have NVflash is great and a wonderful reassurance and I do flash with greater abandon since I got them, but generating the blobs was the most stressful procedure in my limited flashing experience.
I don't know how comfortable you are with using cmd and fastboot - but I sure was glad to have some experience with flashing recoveries and such before I started it!
Generating the NVflash blobs involves flashing a bootloader and recovery build just for that procedure, so you need to know how to flash those in the first place (and how to flash back to your daily driver recovery/bootloader afterrwards).
There's nowhere for you to go without a custom recovery. Start with that.
I have no idea if the recovery most of us use (TWRP 2.6.1 or 2.6.3.1 - both are fine) works with the BL you currently have.
So I would update to the latest firmware, fastboot TWRP and then install CROMi-X.
You can dive into getting your NVflash blobs as soon as you have TWRP installed - that's up to you.
Edit: sbdags was faster - as usual
So there you have it: You have to update your stock firmware before you install TWRP
Wow guys.. This is why i never flash anything since bada on my Wave..
It's all so technical, confusing and intimidating.. God!!
Ok. I really need to start understanding this, so, if I got it right, I don't need to root because the custom ROM is already rooted.. Good!
Now the hard part. Please be patient and gentle, explain me like I'm 5 yo child.
- If I understood correctly first thing is upgrade FW, but to which FW should i upgrade? 10.6.1.14.10 or 10.6.1.14.8? If custom ROM is rooted, does the FW matter or not?
- Next comes recovery. Again, which one should I choose? (sdbags your opinion would be really important for me here, considering CROMi-X 5.2.2 is developed by you and the ROM i chose)
- I think I'll leave any ROM questions for later, after i finally understand these first 2 steps.
Also, regarding NVFlash, what the bleep is blobs? I'm comfortable with cmd but never used fastboot.
Thanks again!
madz78 said:
Wow guys.. This is why i never flash anything since bada on my Wave..
It's all so technical, confusing and intimidating.. God!!
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Naaah - if I understood it, it can't be technical Just take your time, read - Google is your friend.
Ok. I really need to start understanding this, so, if I got it right, I don't need to root because the custom ROM is already rooted.. Good!
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See? You got that right already.
Now the hard part. Please be patient and gentle, explain me like I'm 5 yo child.
- If I understood correctly first thing is upgrade FW, but to which FW should i upgrade? 10.6.1.14.10 or 10.6.1.14.8? If custom ROM is rooted, does the FW matter or not?
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It does not matter. As long as you upgrade to a 10.6.1.x version, your bootloader will be compatible with TWRP 2.6.1 or 2.6.3.1 - see below.
- Next comes recovery. Again, which one should I choose? (sdbags your opinion would be really important for me here, considering CROMi-X 5.2.2 is developed by you and the ROM i chose)
- I think I'll leave any ROM questions for later, after i finally understand these first 2 steps.
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sbdags is currently recommending TWRP 2.6.1. That is the version he included in the bootloader/TWRP package he provides in the OP (Original Post) of the CROMi-X thread.
To elaborate: In flashing custom roms the most important aspect is that you always have a compatible bootloader/recovery combination. You use your recovery to flash roms, bootloaders, kernels, wipe all or part of your SD card - the works.
If your recovery gets corrupted but you can still boot into the bootloader, you can install a new recovery using the fastboot protocol (which provides low level access from your computer). If your bootloader gets corrupted (and the most common cause is the wrong recovery) and you cannot boot into recovery, NVflash is your last chance to recover the tablet because: no bootloader = no fastboot access.
The easiest way to get a current bootloader in your situation would be to upgrade your stock firmware. The risk for something to go wrong is close to negative 1
Then you would download TWRP 2.6.1 for the TF700 from the Teamwin website and use the fastboot protocol to install it to it's proper partition.
Risk level is very low if you can follow the instructions in my little tutorial or in the Minimal ADB Fastboot Tool thread.
Once you have TWRP installed (and you tested that it's working) you could - and this is totally optional - flash the bootloader/TWRP package from sbdags OP. Just to make 100% sure you are on the correct combo.....
Also, regarding NVFlash, what the bleep is blobs? I'm comfortable with cmd but never used fast boot.
Thanks again!
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A blob is a file - better: an image. Binary Large Object is the origin, I believe. For a technical explanation don't ask me! Go here:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_large_object
If you look into the Asus firmware zip file, inside is a blob and a meta data file (if memory serves me right). The blob is the system image.
What if while you are flashing a firmware and your power supply is reaching 0%, could it be a high risk? :silly:
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What if while you are flashing a firmware and your power supply is reaching 0%, could it be a high risk? :silly:
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Damn you! I was trying to reassure this chap! LOL
There's no remedy for stupidity - so as a scientist you just ignore what you can't account for, right?
berndblb said:
Damn you! I was trying to reassure this chap! LOL
There's no remedy for stupidity - so as a scientist you just ignore what you can't account for, right?
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Just asked a question and thanks for helping... Hahaha:laugh:
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Just asked a question and thanks for helping... Hahaha:laugh:
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Yes, a just a little, totally correct but diabolical question.....
Didn't know you had that evil streak in you, friend
berndblb said:
Yes, a just a little, totally correct but diabolical question.....
Didn't know you had that evil streak in you, friend
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I am trying to relax from a long day of work and tiring of tweaking my device... I am looking for someone to talk to.. Maybe, I need to give up my device and back to my normal boring life...
berndblb said:
Naaah - if I understood it, it can't be technical Just take your time, read - Google is your friend.
See? You got that right already.
It does not matter. As long as you upgrade to a 10.6.1.x version, your bootloader will be compatible with TWRP 2.6.1 or 2.6.3.1 - see below.
sbdags is currently recommending TWRP 2.6.1. That is the version he included in the bootloader/TWRP package he provides in the OP (Original Post) of the CROMi-X thread.
To elaborate: In flashing custom roms the most important aspect is that you always have a compatible bootloader/recovery combination. You use your recovery to flash roms, bootloaders, kernels, wipe all or part of your SD card - the works.
If your recovery gets corrupted but you can still boot into the bootloader, you can install a new recovery using the fastboot protocol (which provides low level access from your computer). If your bootloader gets corrupted (and the most common cause is the wrong recovery) and you cannot boot into recovery, NVflash is your last chance to recover the tablet because: no bootloader = no fastboot access.
The easiest way to get a current bootloader in your situation would be to upgrade your stock firmware. The risk for something to go wrong is close to negative 1
Then you would download TWRP 2.6.1 for the TF700 from the Teamwin website and use the fastboot protocol to install it to it's proper partition.
Risk level is very low if you can follow the instructions in my little tutorial or in the Minimal ADB Fastboot Tool thread.
Once you have TWRP installed (and you tested that it's working) you could - and this is totally optional - flash the bootloader/TWRP package from sbdags OP. Just to make 100% sure you are on the correct combo.....
A blob is a file - better: an image. Binary Large Object is the origin, I believe. For a technical explanation don't ask me! Go here:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_large_object
If you look into the Asus firmware zip file, inside is a blob and a meta data file (if memory serves me right). The blob is the system image.
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The Asus blob actually contains the system image, kernel, recovery, bootloader and partition table.

[Q] Unlocking problems for the bootloader

I am trying to unlock my photons Q bootloader on the Motosite which is well known. I check it now a million times if I have a typo and I Dont.
The button with the "request unlock key " comes up, I hit it, and didnt recieve any mail. And I started last week doing it.
The Photon q has a GSM mod done by the almighty CornholioGSM, and I am using a connection from Germany. Since it is a Sprint photon, I thought that it might be discarded, because the ip it comes from is german ?..
Would be great to have someone telling me if there is another solution to this ..
I tried to flash with the locked bootloader the recovery, but get the message "invalid image size" on CWM or TWR.
I hope this Q is not too noob for all of you.
I would try motochopper or whatever the exploit was to unlock without Moto's assistance.
It may have been unlocked previously, (relocked for warranty swap) in which case I'm not sure you can use the site to re-unlock the device...
arrrghhh said:
I would try motochopper or whatever the exploit was to unlock without Moto's assistance.
It may have been unlocked previously, (relocked for warranty swap) in which case I'm not sure you can use the site to re-unlock the device...
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First of all thank your for your answer ! Most likely you are right. Now my Q, I did read Motochopper just install SU and also gives root, but without touching the bootloader. Dont I need to unlock the bootloader if I want to install Cyanogen or any other Mod ? Maybe I understood that wrong.
x11-nice said:
First of all thank your for your answer ! Most likely you are right. Now my Q, I did read Motochopper just install SU and also gives root, but without touching the bootloader. Dont I need to unlock the bootloader if I want to install Cyanogen or any other Mod ? Maybe I understood that wrong.
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Ok, motochopper did its job. Thank you for that ! ! ! I guess now I have to go on with Goomanager. :good:
x11-nice said:
Ok, motochopper did its job. Thank you for that ! ! ! I guess now I have to go on with Goomanager. :good:
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If you're wanting to install TWRP, I think they have a new app now... TWRP Manager?
I've always installed recovery using fastboot on the Q, so I'm not very familiar with the apps .
arrrghhh said:
If you're wanting to install TWRP, I think they have a new app now... TWRP Manager?
I've always installed recovery using fastboot on the Q, so I'm not very familiar with the apps .
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I tried the TWRP Manager, the manager shows me success for installing the TWRP recovery, but I cant access it. It switches back into Fastboot telling me flash failure. Actually I would like to install CM11. Well I will try to install the latest nightly and see whats happening. Hopefully it doesnt brick. :silly: Thanks for your help, I will let you know about success or fail.
x11-nice said:
I tried the TWRP Manager, the manager shows me success for installing the TWRP recovery, but I cant access it. It switches back into Fastboot telling me flash failure. Actually I would like to install CM11. Well I will try to install the latest nightly and see whats happening. Hopefully it doesnt brick. :silly: Thanks for your help, I will let you know about success or fail.
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You need to install some sort of custom recovery in order to flash a custom ROM.
Open Recovery or TWRP are both fine. CWM is really old for our device, I can't recommend it.
arrrghhh said:
You need to install some sort of custom recovery in order to flash a custom ROM.
Open Recovery or TWRP are both fine. CWM is really old for our device, I can't recommend it.
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So yesterday Motorola send me the messages with the codes which I apllied for almost 2 weeks ago... I guess the next days will arrive more.
Ofc I tried to unlock and it worked as expected. Now with fastboot flashing tto recovery 2.8.0.1 of TWRP went flawless. Actually I am really impressed how easy it worked, unlike using all the other tools like motochopper and TWRP Manager, which actually didnt solve the problem at all not having a unlocked bootloader.
Now my last Q: Which CM11 is the preferable choice for using it with the Photon. I dont care so much about Nightly or not. What I need is stable VPN and WIFI, and working mail and messenger like Cypher.
And! Thank you so much arrrghhh for all your advice and help. This forum and its users are really a great help to the community of android !
All DONE
Ok used TWRP 2.8.0.1 to install cm-11-20141012-NIGHTLY-moto_msm8960_jbbl and the PA-Gapps-Modular for 4.4.x. Great work on everyone who participated making this possible and developing the necessary tools.
Thanks again to Arrrghhh and Cornholio !

Can i go back to cm11s this way?

Hi! My question is lame, i know.. But here it goes anyway, i couldn't find a simple and direct answer..
Is less than a week that i have this phone, and i've been reading a lot of guides of how to rollback to cm11s.. the thing is i've flashed the latest CM12S signed zip ota through CM Recovery, everything is fine as i'm testing it right now..
My question is: if i want to go back to CM11S (in the case that i don't like CM12S or have some bugs), can i just wipe data / factory reset and cache in CM Recovery, and then flash the cm11s signed zip?
I haven't rooted or unlocked bootloader, is it relatively easy from what i read around here.. but i wondered if i had to go through all those steps (unlock bootloader, custom recovery, and then flash) or just doing the steps mentioned before will work just fine..
Is it better to fastboot flash or through custom recovery is fine also?
Thanks in advance!
PD: I'm also asking what do you think about some other 5.1.1 Lollipop ROM, custom kernel, etc.. I'm kind of a flashaholic and i would be able to install the custom recovery if would be really worth it
PD2: sorry for the bad english, i'm from argentina
cesarp3791 said:
Hi! My question is lame, i know.. But here it goes anyway, i couldn't find a simple and direct answer..
Is less than a week that i have this phone, and i've been reading a lot of guides of how to rollback to cm11s.. the thing is i've flashed the latest CM12S signed zip ota through CM Recovery, everything is fine as i'm testing it right now..
My question is: if i want to go back to CM11S (in the case that i don't like CM12S or have some bugs), can i just wipe data / factory reset and cache in CM Recovery, and then flash the cm11s signed zip?
I haven't rooted or unlocked bootloader, is it relatively easy from what i read around here.. but i wondered if i had to go through all those steps (unlock bootloader, custom recovery, and then flash) or just doing the steps mentioned before will work just fine..
Is it better to fastboot flash or through custom recovery is fine also?
Thanks in advance!
PD: I'm also asking what do you think about some other 5.1.1 Lollipop ROM, custom kernel, etc.. I'm kind of a flashaholic and i would be able to install the custom recovery if would be really worth it
PD2: sorry for the bad english, i'm from argentina
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Just unlock your bootloader now, the longer you leave it the more difficult it'll be to backup your internal storage beforehand. You should really have it unlocked anyway as insurance against anything going wrong with your phone. Once you have unlocked it you can flash TWRP recovery, then the correct procedure to go back to CM11S would be to perform a full wipe (system, data, cache, dalvik cache) and then just flash the zip. As far as custom ROMs for this device go, there are many excellent options to choose from that offer extra customisation that you won't find on the stock ROM.
Don't we have to flash the firmware prior to flashing back to CM11s to prevent a hardbrick? I'm looking into doing this as well, so I'm just asking for my own clarity.
uansari1 said:
Don't we have to flash the firmware prior to flashing back to CM11s to prevent a hardbrick? I'm looking into doing this as well, so I'm just asking for my own clarity.
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The firmware is contained in the official zip.
Heisenberg said:
The firmware is contained in the official zip.
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Thanks! Stupid question, but can you please link me to the official zip? I already have TWRP installed, so it would be nice to revert sooner than later.
uansari1 said:
Thanks! Stupid question, but can you please link me to the official zip? I already have TWRP installed, so it would be nice to revert sooner than later.
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You'll find them all here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2906746
Thanks!
Thank you both, i believe that this week i'll have some time and unlock the bootloader and flashing the TWRP recovery right away.. Then i'll see which ROM suits my use (i'm looking to battery friendly and high screen on time, will see the forums accordingly) and start the journey on this beautiful and well supported device
Also, thanks for the clarification of the modems.. Will be looking after that and make sure not to miss that step if required :good:
cesarp3791 said:
Thank you both, i believe that this week i'll have some time and unlock the bootloader and flashing the TWRP recovery right away.. Then i'll see which ROM suits my use (i'm looking to battery friendly and high screen on time, will see the forums accordingly) and start the journey on this beautiful and well supported device
Also, thanks for the clarification of the modems.. Will be looking after that and make sure not to miss that step if required :good:
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Once you've flashed the ROM, please do share your results. I am still unsure if reverting from a Lollipop ROM to CM11S will cause issues with the radio and/or a softbrick of the device, as I've read that this "can" happen.
uansari1 said:
Once you've flashed the ROM, please do share your results. I am still unsure if reverting from a Lollipop ROM to CM11S will cause issues with the radio and/or a softbrick of the device, as I've read that this "can" happen.
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Reverting from Lollipop to KitKat won't brick your device, whoever said that is wrong, and would have caused a brick because they didn't know what they were doing. You do need to make sure you flash a KitKat modem though, otherwise you'll have issues with the prox sensor.
Heisenberg said:
Reverting from Lollipop to KitKat won't brick your device, whoever said that is wrong, and would have caused a brick because they didn't know what they were doing. You do need to make sure you flash a KitKat modem though, otherwise you'll have issues with the prox sensor.
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Thanks Timaaa...last question, I'm downloading the latest modem from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-stock-rooted-xnph05q-t3027033.
Is this the correct flashable modem file to use, or do you recommend another for XNPH05Q?
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Thanks Timaaa...last question, I'm downloading the latest modem from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-stock-rooted-xnph05q-t3027033.
Is this the correct flashable modem file to use, or do you recommend another for XNPH05Q?
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That modem should be fine.

Some Android newbie questions

Will be an apple to android convert when my zenfone comes. Been reading around to educate myself but have some questions that could use some insight.
1. Once you unlock the bootloader and root your phone, can you still get monthly/yearly or new android version updates in system updates in settings and update from there? If not, do you have to pretty much reset everything to factory defaults and then update it like that? And root all over again? Or is there any other way?
2. Will the phone be pretty much be "stock" after the factory reset?Working OTA updates and all? (Minus the unlocked bootloader)
3 Which up to date rooting method seems best? There's 2 methods that I can see but I can't tell which one is better.
a) https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...uide-how-to-root-asus-zenfone-6-twrp-t3940168
b) https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-6-2019/how-to/simple-guide-to-root-device-twrp-t3956784
4. Is TWRP needed?
Thanks!
midnight3ow said:
Will be an apple to android convert when my zenfone comes. Been reading around to educate myself but have some questions that could use some insight.
1. Once you unlock the bootloader and root your phone, can you still get monthly/yearly or new android version updates in system updates in settings and update from there? If not, do you have to pretty much reset everything to factory defaults and then update it like that? And root all over again? Or is there any other way?
2. Will the phone be pretty much be "stock" after the factory reset?Working OTA updates and all? (Minus the unlocked bootloader)
3 Which up to date rooting method seems best? There's 2 methods that I can see but I can't tell which one is better.
a) https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...uide-how-to-root-asus-zenfone-6-twrp-t3940168
b) https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-6-2019/how-to/simple-guide-to-root-device-twrp-t3956784
4. Is TWRP needed?
Thanks!
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1) No, once unlocked, no more OTAS. You can flash the update manually, no wipe needed, but you also need to flash Root and custom recovery again (2 minutes extra, no big deal).
2) Stock, no OTAS
3) They are pretty much the same, but the easiest (and safest) way is just to get a custom recovery and then flash the Magisk Zip
4) For normal method yes, for the ones you posted in 3), no.
papete said:
1) No, once unlocked, no more OTAS. You can flash the update manually, no wipe needed, but you also need to flash Root and custom recovery again (2 minutes extra, no big deal).
2) Stock, no OTAS
3) They are pretty much the same, but the easiest (and safest) way is just to get a custom recovery and then flash the Magisk Zip
4) For normal method yes, for the ones you posted in 3), no.
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Thank you for your reply, but I need some clarification on a couple things.
1. I suppose I'll figure out once I get the phone but I'm anxious and don't know when the phone will arrive but how do you flash the update manually? I understand having to flashing root again but what do you mean flashing custom recovery again?
2. Where do you get a hold of the update for the phone? Is updating manually pretty much the same as resetting your phone to factory settings?
3. I can't seem to find the method you mention that is the easiest and safest way to root. Could you kindly lead me to that guide??
midnight3ow said:
Thank you for your reply, but I need some clarification on a couple things.
1. I suppose I'll figure out once I get the phone but I'm anxious and don't know when the phone will arrive but how do you flash the update manually? I understand having to flashing root again but what do you mean flashing custom recovery again?
2. Where do you get a hold of the update for the phone? Is updating manually pretty much the same as resetting your phone to factory settings?
3. I can't seem to find the method you mention that is the easiest and safest way to root. Could you kindly lead me to that guide??
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1) To flash manually you download the firmware from the Asus site, and use a recovery (stock or custom) to flash it. If you want root, you need a custom recovery to flash it, as stock recovery only flashes Asus Firmware. Whenever you flash a stock firmware, it "overwrites" the custom recovery with the stock recovery, so if you want/need a custom recovery, you need to flash it again. The same with root, stock flashed boot partition again, so you need to flash Magisk zip again so it can make the patch to boot to make root work.
2) I personally don't update that much, but you can check every once in a while https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/
You can update without factory reset, just flash the new firmware (+root if needed) and you are done, it is just like an OTA but done by yourself.
3) Follow this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...covery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-asus-t3937844
papete said:
1) To flash manually you download the firmware from the Asus site, and use a recovery (stock or custom) to flash it. If you want root, you need a custom recovery to flash it, as stock recovery only flashes Asus Firmware. Whenever you flash a stock firmware, it "overwrites" the custom recovery with the stock recovery, so if you want/need a custom recovery, you need to flash it again. The same with root, stock flashed boot partition again, so you need to flash Magisk zip again so it can make the patch to boot to make root work.
2) I personally don't update that much, but you can check every once in a while https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/
You can update without factory reset, just flash the new firmware (+root if needed) and you are done, it is just like an OTA but done by yourself.
3) Follow this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...covery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-asus-t3937844
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I'm grateful for all your thoughtful and clear responses.
When do you normally decide to update?
Do you lose any data from updating security update/firmware or rooting and installing custom recovery?
Also, I've been looking through that link you posted, and also seen another thread about another newer "official" TWRP version? What's the difference?Which one should I use?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...nt/tool-utility-twrp-3-3-1-0-teamwin-t3963876
midnight3ow said:
Will be an apple to android convert when my zenfone comes.
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So ZF6 will be your first Android phone ever?
_jis_ said:
So ZF6 will be your first Android phone ever?
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Yes it will be! Excited and anxious at the same time.
midnight3ow said:
Yes it will be! Excited and anxious at the same time.
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Then please do yourself a favor and forgot about unlocking the bootloader and rooting your new phone.
Just learn how to use nearly stock Android with lightweight Android skin in its user-friendly and widely configurable form called ZenUI.
Trust me, there is no need for tinkering with root as an Android newbie when using ZF6.
_jis_ said:
Then please do yourself a favor and forgot about unlocking the bootloader and rooting your new phone.
Just learn how to use nearly stock Android with lightweight Android skin in its user-friendly and widely configurable form called ZenUI.
Trust me, there is no need for tinkering with root as an Android newbie when using ZF6.
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I agree with this, unless you want to achieve something specific that can only be done rooted, stay completely stock.
papete said:
unless you want to achieve something specific that can only be done rooted
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But this hypothetical condition is impossible because Android newbie cannot even achieve basic Android tasks which doesn't require root at all so why complicate his upcoming long journey of gaining experience and knowledge yet by the rooting his device from the very beginning?

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