Some Android newbie questions - ASUS ZenFone 6 (2019) Questions & Answers

Will be an apple to android convert when my zenfone comes. Been reading around to educate myself but have some questions that could use some insight.
1. Once you unlock the bootloader and root your phone, can you still get monthly/yearly or new android version updates in system updates in settings and update from there? If not, do you have to pretty much reset everything to factory defaults and then update it like that? And root all over again? Or is there any other way?
2. Will the phone be pretty much be "stock" after the factory reset?Working OTA updates and all? (Minus the unlocked bootloader)
3 Which up to date rooting method seems best? There's 2 methods that I can see but I can't tell which one is better.
a) https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...uide-how-to-root-asus-zenfone-6-twrp-t3940168
b) https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-6-2019/how-to/simple-guide-to-root-device-twrp-t3956784
4. Is TWRP needed?
Thanks!

midnight3ow said:
Will be an apple to android convert when my zenfone comes. Been reading around to educate myself but have some questions that could use some insight.
1. Once you unlock the bootloader and root your phone, can you still get monthly/yearly or new android version updates in system updates in settings and update from there? If not, do you have to pretty much reset everything to factory defaults and then update it like that? And root all over again? Or is there any other way?
2. Will the phone be pretty much be "stock" after the factory reset?Working OTA updates and all? (Minus the unlocked bootloader)
3 Which up to date rooting method seems best? There's 2 methods that I can see but I can't tell which one is better.
a) https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...uide-how-to-root-asus-zenfone-6-twrp-t3940168
b) https://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone-6-2019/how-to/simple-guide-to-root-device-twrp-t3956784
4. Is TWRP needed?
Thanks!
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1) No, once unlocked, no more OTAS. You can flash the update manually, no wipe needed, but you also need to flash Root and custom recovery again (2 minutes extra, no big deal).
2) Stock, no OTAS
3) They are pretty much the same, but the easiest (and safest) way is just to get a custom recovery and then flash the Magisk Zip
4) For normal method yes, for the ones you posted in 3), no.

papete said:
1) No, once unlocked, no more OTAS. You can flash the update manually, no wipe needed, but you also need to flash Root and custom recovery again (2 minutes extra, no big deal).
2) Stock, no OTAS
3) They are pretty much the same, but the easiest (and safest) way is just to get a custom recovery and then flash the Magisk Zip
4) For normal method yes, for the ones you posted in 3), no.
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Thank you for your reply, but I need some clarification on a couple things.
1. I suppose I'll figure out once I get the phone but I'm anxious and don't know when the phone will arrive but how do you flash the update manually? I understand having to flashing root again but what do you mean flashing custom recovery again?
2. Where do you get a hold of the update for the phone? Is updating manually pretty much the same as resetting your phone to factory settings?
3. I can't seem to find the method you mention that is the easiest and safest way to root. Could you kindly lead me to that guide??

midnight3ow said:
Thank you for your reply, but I need some clarification on a couple things.
1. I suppose I'll figure out once I get the phone but I'm anxious and don't know when the phone will arrive but how do you flash the update manually? I understand having to flashing root again but what do you mean flashing custom recovery again?
2. Where do you get a hold of the update for the phone? Is updating manually pretty much the same as resetting your phone to factory settings?
3. I can't seem to find the method you mention that is the easiest and safest way to root. Could you kindly lead me to that guide??
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1) To flash manually you download the firmware from the Asus site, and use a recovery (stock or custom) to flash it. If you want root, you need a custom recovery to flash it, as stock recovery only flashes Asus Firmware. Whenever you flash a stock firmware, it "overwrites" the custom recovery with the stock recovery, so if you want/need a custom recovery, you need to flash it again. The same with root, stock flashed boot partition again, so you need to flash Magisk zip again so it can make the patch to boot to make root work.
2) I personally don't update that much, but you can check every once in a while https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/
You can update without factory reset, just flash the new firmware (+root if needed) and you are done, it is just like an OTA but done by yourself.
3) Follow this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...covery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-asus-t3937844

papete said:
1) To flash manually you download the firmware from the Asus site, and use a recovery (stock or custom) to flash it. If you want root, you need a custom recovery to flash it, as stock recovery only flashes Asus Firmware. Whenever you flash a stock firmware, it "overwrites" the custom recovery with the stock recovery, so if you want/need a custom recovery, you need to flash it again. The same with root, stock flashed boot partition again, so you need to flash Magisk zip again so it can make the patch to boot to make root work.
2) I personally don't update that much, but you can check every once in a while https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/HelpDesk_Download/
You can update without factory reset, just flash the new firmware (+root if needed) and you are done, it is just like an OTA but done by yourself.
3) Follow this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...covery-unofficial-twrp-recovery-asus-t3937844
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I'm grateful for all your thoughtful and clear responses.
When do you normally decide to update?
Do you lose any data from updating security update/firmware or rooting and installing custom recovery?
Also, I've been looking through that link you posted, and also seen another thread about another newer "official" TWRP version? What's the difference?Which one should I use?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ze...nt/tool-utility-twrp-3-3-1-0-teamwin-t3963876

midnight3ow said:
Will be an apple to android convert when my zenfone comes.
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So ZF6 will be your first Android phone ever?

_jis_ said:
So ZF6 will be your first Android phone ever?
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Yes it will be! Excited and anxious at the same time.

midnight3ow said:
Yes it will be! Excited and anxious at the same time.
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Then please do yourself a favor and forgot about unlocking the bootloader and rooting your new phone.
Just learn how to use nearly stock Android with lightweight Android skin in its user-friendly and widely configurable form called ZenUI.
Trust me, there is no need for tinkering with root as an Android newbie when using ZF6.

_jis_ said:
Then please do yourself a favor and forgot about unlocking the bootloader and rooting your new phone.
Just learn how to use nearly stock Android with lightweight Android skin in its user-friendly and widely configurable form called ZenUI.
Trust me, there is no need for tinkering with root as an Android newbie when using ZF6.
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I agree with this, unless you want to achieve something specific that can only be done rooted, stay completely stock.

papete said:
unless you want to achieve something specific that can only be done rooted
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But this hypothetical condition is impossible because Android newbie cannot even achieve basic Android tasks which doesn't require root at all so why complicate his upcoming long journey of gaining experience and knowledge yet by the rooting his device from the very beginning?

Related

[Q] Can you OTA update a Nexus 5 and keep root?

Ok so I just recently got my hands on a Nexus 5 which I rooted with CF Auto Root and relocked the bootloader with Bootunlocker for security (I'm guessing I should unlock before the update). I see reports surfacing of a possible 4.4.3 update in the near future. So before that happens I want to figure out the best practice for updating a N5 with CF Auto Root. It stands to reason I'll do a full backup so that's a given.
I'm not new to rooting. Done it a few times. Just haven't had a device that gets regular OTAs in my country so it hasn't come up.
Is there a way to update so that root is preserved? Obviously I'd like to keep the process as simple as possible but if I have to work from scratch it's not the end of the world.
As I understand it, you can do normal OTA as long as it's stock but you lose root. In that case, does the OTA relock the bootloader or will it stay unlocked? Which then basically means a new root which wipes the device.
Or perhaps it's better to ask what the best procedure for updating a stock Nexus 5 with CF Auto Root.
Everything that you have ever wanted to know about OTA can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217
Ah thanks. Appreciate it.
generally no, after ota you lose root. but there are apps that will save your root so that you keep root after an update.
I've been looking at Survival Mode in Super SU and RootKeeper but there seems to be some question as to their success.
Reaper1242 said:
I've been looking at Survival Mode in Super SU and RootKeeper but there seems to be some question as to their success.
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ive never used any since i dont ota, i update my custom rom as soon as its updated, but ive heard of success with rootkeeper. but it doesnt matter, it literally takes 3 minutes to root a nexus the right way(via fastboot).
Yea, I should use fastboot in future.
Reaper1242 said:
As I understand it, you can do normal OTA as long as it's stock but you lose root. In that case, does the OTA relock the bootloader or will it stay unlocked? Which then basically means a new root which wipes the device.
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The stock Android OS update will not relock the bootloader. So, once you apply the OTA.zip file in recovery, all you will need to do is reflash the SuperSU, and you are done.
(Note that depending on your system status, you may not be able to apply the OTA.zip directly - for instance, if you have updated/deleted system files etc, in which case, you will first need to go back to stock - refer to the link that @mistahseller provided for details about how to go back to stock)
jj14 said:
The stock Android OS update will not relock the bootloader. So, once you apply the OTA.zip file in recovery, all you will need to do is reflash the SuperSU, and you are done.
(Note that depending on your system status, you may not be able to apply the OTA.zip directly - for instance, if you have updated/deleted system files etc, in which case, you will first need to go back to stock - refer to the link that @mistahseller provided for details about how to go back to stock)
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you would need to flash a custom recovery first, then supersu in your custom recovery.
Thanks everyone for the responses.You've made everything much clearer.
simms22 said:
you would need to flash a custom recovery first, then supersu in your custom recovery.
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Good point. I assumed that op had installed a custom recovery when he rooted, but that is not always the case.
Ok so I'm going to sideload myself. Been a while so I just want to confirm the process so I don't screw up.
I'm using TWRP
Obviously I'll do a NANdroid and probably Titanium as well.
1) Unlock bootloader with Bootunlocker
2) Connect device to PC
3) Boot into TWRP recovery and go to Advanced > ADB Sideload
4) type adb sideload update.zip (or whatever I call the file)
5) reboot device and check if it's working
6) reboot to recovery and reflash superuser.zip
I think that's it. Is there anything else I need to be aware of? If I'm right it should then be updated, rooted and in the same state before I updated.
I am in the same situation. I am currently rooted with a unlocked boot loader. When 4.4.3 comes along I plan to upgrade it. I have only rooted and have CWM no custom ROM. I know o cannot perform a OTA update. So do I copy the update zip (4.4.3) and just flash in CWM? Is this correct, and if so do I lose root/ boot loader. Thanks. I have read the thread above but do not understand
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dec1153 said:
I am in the same situation. I am currently rooted with a unlocked boot loader. When 4.4.3 comes along I plan to upgrade it. I have only rooted and have CWM no custom ROM. I know o cannot perform a OTA update. So do I copy the update zip (4.4.3) and just flash in CWM? Is this correct, and if so do I lose root/ boot loader. Thanks. I have read the thread above but do not understand
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Flash stock system.img and flash recovery.img and then do the update.zip from the stock recovery..
If you don't want to flash, then make sure you have removed all the modifications you have done to system apps. If you don't remember then I would certainly recommend flashing stock images...
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[Q] Root method

I have an ASUS TF300T running stock 4.2.1 build JOP400D_epad-10.6.1.27.5-20130902. I'd really like to, at a minimum, root this thing so I can boost it up a little bit. And at the most, install another ROM like CM 11.
I've rooted other machines (Droid Incredible, and my current Droid Razr) so I am not a novice by far. But after searching around I am finding that I can't really determine the 'best' method for rooting the TF300T. By best I mean - easiest and safest. With this in mind, can someone suggest the best method (and URL) for rooting the TF300T? And if I want to go so far as putting CM 11 on it (like I did for my phone) can Safestrap be run on this tablet? Any caveats?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. I might mention I use a Mac, so if whatever root method can run on a Mac that would be great. Otherwise if the method can work under a Win 7 VM (VirtualBox) that would be fine too.
-Tom
SimpTheChimp said:
I have an ASUS TF300T running stock 4.2.1 build JOP400D_epad-10.6.1.27.5-20130902. I'd really like to, at a minimum, root this thing so I can boost it up a little bit. And at the most, install another ROM like CM 11.
I've rooted other machines (Droid Incredible, and my current Droid Razr) so I am not a novice by far. But after searching around I am finding that I can't really determine the 'best' method for rooting the TF300T. By best I mean - easiest and safest. With this in mind, can someone suggest the best method (and URL) for rooting the TF300T? And if I want to go so far as putting CM 11 on it (like I did for my phone) can Safestrap be run on this tablet? Any caveats?
Thanks in advance!
P.S. I might mention I use a Mac, so if whatever root method can run on a Mac that would be great. Otherwise if the method can work under a Win 7 VM (VirtualBox) that would be fine too.
-Tom
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I don't know about safestrap, but this is one of the pickiest tablets when it comes to ROMs: One mismatched bootloader, and it becomes an expensive paperweight.
There are several root methods in the General Forum if thats all you want to do.
For Customs ROMs, you will have to first unlock the bootloader, then update to the latest stock ROM, install the right TWRP, then pick the corresponding ROM. Never click wipe data in the bootloader menu.
cmendonc2 said:
I don't know about safestrap, but this is one of the pickiest tablets when it comes to ROMs: One mismatched bootloader, and it becomes an expensive paperweight.
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Yeah, that's my worry, from what I read it seems this is a very 'picky' tablet - and I don't want to blow it up... so maybe I'll just start with rooting it. That way I can at least customize a few things, get rid of bloatware, etc. Hopefully that will help it a bit.
cmendonc2 said:
There are several root methods in the General Forum if thats all you want to do.
For Customs ROMs, you will have to first unlock the bootloader, then update to the latest stock ROM, install the right TWRP, then pick the corresponding ROM. Never click wipe data in the bootloader menu.
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So what would you consider the 'easiest' and 'safest' of the root methods shown in the general forum? Any suggestions? Also, I assume the latest stock ROM is still the 4.2.1 build JOP400D_epad-10.6.1.27.5-20130902? I haven't got anything newer yet via System Update. That's why I was thinking of going to CM 11 like I did on my phone - to get Kit Kit. We'll probably never get it directly from ASUS....
-Tom
SimpTheChimp said:
Yeah, that's my worry, from what I read it seems this is a very 'picky' tablet - and I don't want to blow it up... so maybe I'll just start with rooting it. That way I can at least customize a few things, get rid of bloatware, etc. Hopefully that will help it a bit.
So what would you consider the 'easiest' and 'safest' of the root methods shown in the general forum? Any suggestions? Also, I assume the latest stock ROM is still the 4.2.1 build JOP400D_epad-10.6.1.27.5-20130902? I haven't got anything newer yet via System Update. That's why I was thinking of going to CM 11 like I did on my phone - to get Kit Kit. We'll probably never get it directly from ASUS....
-Tom
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To root, you can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685628
cmendonc2 said:
To root, you can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2685628
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Hmm, I'll give this a try. So is this what you used to get root on your TF300T? It looks like it works for a variety of different machines.
Does this only do root? Or also bootloader unlock so you can run other ROMS? Also, if for whatever reason I had to revert root and reinstall stock, will that work after rooting with this method?
Thanks!
SimpTheChimp said:
Hmm, I'll give this a try. So is this what you used to get root on your TF300T? It looks like it works for a variety of different machines.
Does this only do root? Or also bootloader unlock so you can run other ROMS? Also, if for whatever reason I had to revert root and reinstall stock, will that work after rooting with this method?
Thanks!
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This does ONLY root. Your bootloader is still unlocked, but if you reinstall stock, the root will be removed. If you do choose to unlock your bootloader, it can never be relocked and your warranty is forever void.
cmendonc2 said:
This does ONLY root. Your bootloader is still unlocked, but if you reinstall stock, the root will be removed. If you do choose to unlock your bootloader, it can never be relocked and your warranty is forever void.
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OK cool, I'll give it a shot. I'll first start with root and see if I can then optimize the tablet to run a little bit better (and get rid of the bloatware). Then later on I may consider unlocking the bootloader and trying another ROM - especially KitKat.
-Tom
cmendonc2 said:
This does ONLY root. Your bootloader is still unlocked, but if you reinstall stock, the root will be removed. If you do choose to unlock your bootloader, it can never be relocked and your warranty is forever void.
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CMendonc2:
IT WORKED! Not only that, it was easy and quick!
Thanks!
SimpTheChimp said:
CMendonc2:
IT WORKED! Not only that, it was easy and quick!
Thanks!
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Glad to hear it! Don't be afraid to ask any other questions
cmendonc2 said:
Glad to hear it! Don't be afraid to ask any other questions
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OK cmendonc2, I like having root, but I think I am about ready to unlock this baby and put on another ROM. I know the risks, and that my warranty will be voided - but I've had this a couple of years so it's not under warranty anyway.
So... I got the ASUS Bootloader unlocker program from the ASUS site; and I have what I believe is the latest TWRP. Is there a good place for instructions on how to unlock this thing and install a new ROM? I know it can be picky so I want to do it right and not brick it.
Also any suggestions on a good ROM? I was thinking CM 11, but I've also heard good things about OmniROM.
Thanks.
-Tom
SimpTheChimp said:
OK cmendonc2, I like having root, but I think I am about ready to unlock this baby and put on another ROM. I know the risks, and that my warranty will be voided - but I've had this a couple of years so it's not under warranty anyway.
So... I got the ASUS Bootloader unlocker program from the ASUS site; and I have what I believe is the latest TWRP. Is there a good place for instructions on how to unlock this thing and install a new ROM? I know it can be picky so I want to do it right and not brick it.
Also any suggestions on a good ROM? I was thinking CM 11, but I've also heard good things about OmniROM.
Thanks.
-Tom
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OK so you have bootloader 10.6.1.27.5. That's the latest version, so you don't have to worry about upgrading stock. This TWRP (http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407579270) is compatible with the bootloader. Download any 4.4.4 ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf300t/development. Then download the latest GAPPS from here: http://goo.gl/ZcwCW9.
After unlocking, extract the TWRP blob and put it on your SD card. type this into Terminal Emulator on your tablet:
Code:
su
dd if=/sdcard/twrp.blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4
Then restart and go into TWRP. Wipe Data and cache, then install your new ROM and gapps.
cmendonc2 said:
OK so you have bootloader 10.6.1.27.5. That's the latest version, so you don't have to worry about upgrading stock. This TWRP (http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407579270) is compatible with the bootloader. Download any 4.4.4 ROM from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf300t/development. Then download the latest GAPPS from here: http://goo.gl/ZcwCW9.
After unlocking, extract the TWRP blob and put it on your SD card. type this into Terminal Emulator on your tablet:
Code:
su
dd if=/sdcard/twrp.blob of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4
Then restart and go into TWRP. Wipe Data and cache, then install your new ROM and gapps.
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Thanks, cmendonc2... I'll give this a shot tonight. I think KitKat will perform better on this tablet (I hope). I think I'll try OmniROM first.
BTW, I thought I read somewhere that there was one TWRP option (a specific Wipe option) that I was to NEVER use or I would brick the tablet. You know what that option is?
-Tom
SimpTheChimp said:
Thanks, cmendonc2... I'll give this a shot tonight. I think KitKat will perform better on this tablet (I hope). I think I'll try OmniROM first.
BTW, I thought I read somewhere that there was one TWRP option (a specific Wipe option) that I was to NEVER use or I would brick the tablet. You know what that option is?
-Tom
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Thats the Bootloader option "Wipe Data". You see that when u press vol down and power to get the three icons. It is the icon on the far right. Selecting that will result in an expensive paperweight.
SimpTheChimp said:
Thanks, cmendonc2... I'll give this a shot tonight. I think KitKat will perform better on this tablet (I hope). I think I'll try OmniROM first.
BTW, I thought I read somewhere that there was one TWRP option (a specific Wipe option) that I was to NEVER use or I would brick the tablet. You know what that option is?
-Tom
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OK I got the TWRP but when I extract it there is no .blob file. So what am I missing? There doesn't seem to be much in this .zip file.... I guess to do it the terminal way (seems the easiest to me) I need the blob file. I've googled left and right but I can't find a TWRP 2.7.0.1 blob.
Or would this ROM Manager app work?
UPDATE: Never mind, I figured out how to flash recovery using Fastboot on my Mac! TWRP is now installed and working! Going to try flashing OmniRom and see how that goes. So I think the only question I have left is: When I am flashing a new ROM (i.e. over the old stock) what wipe options in TWRP should I use first? Obviously cache and Dalvik, but which other ones? System? Data? For this first flash I obviously want/need to start fresh.
SimpTheChimp said:
OK I got the TWRP but when I extract it there is no .blob file. So what am I missing? There doesn't seem to be much in this .zip file.... I guess to do it the terminal way (seems the easiest to me) I need the blob file. I've googled left and right but I can't find a TWRP 2.7.0.1 blob.
Or would this ROM Manager app work?
UPDATE: Never mind, I figured out how to flash recovery using Fastboot on my Mac! TWRP is now installed and working! Going to try flashing OmniRom and see how that goes. So I think the only question I have left is: When I am flashing a new ROM (i.e. over the old stock) what wipe options in TWRP should I use first? Obviously cache and Dalvik, but which other ones? System? Data? For this first flash I obviously want/need to start fresh.
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For factory reset: wipe data, cache, dalvik
For dirty flash: wipe cache, dalvik cache

Rooting + Ota updates

Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!
OTA updates are Over The Air Updates, and usually they include bug fixes, new functionalities or even a new version of android.
I red in this forum that rooting the OPO does not void the warranty and the phone continues to perform the OTA updates.
Can anyone confirm?
If you change the recovery you may lose the ability to receive the ota updates. But, you're in luck, you can boot into a custom recovery and flash the zip file to gain root access without installing the recovery on the phone itself.
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A couple tutorials floating around and I believe stickied explain this.
cyldman said:
Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!
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if you root the phone you can flash the updated file or any file for that matter. So to not root your phone to update it to the latest rom to then root your phone and put something completely different on it makes no sense.
Now if you are rooting just to keep stock and root - again you can root and flash stock rom from this forum.. Win Win for you
playya said:
if you root the phone you can flash the updated file or any file for that matter. So to not root your phone to update it to the latest rom to then root your phone and put something completely different on it makes no sense.
Now if you are rooting just to keep stock and root - again you can root and flash stock rom from this forum.. Win Win for you
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Hi,
I want some clarity on how OTA is tied with recovery ? If I put TWRP recovery will I loose the ability for OTA?
Thanks
zaibrockstar said:
Hi,
I want some clarity on how OTA is tied with recovery ? If I put TWRP recovery will I loose the ability for OTA?
Thanks
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From my understanding not with 1+1 but OTA's are generally flashed via stock recovery and not custom ones. Question - what was your other android phone?
playya said:
From my understanding not with 1+1 but OTA's are generally flashed via stock recovery and not custom ones. Question - what was your other android phone?
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I had Nexus 4, Now I am using Nexus 5. I bought OPO to gift to my Dad and wanted to use adfree or adaway and give the phone as it is. But for them to work I need to root access. My understanding is once you put a unlock boot loader and have TWRP, then root it. I will loose OTA. I will not be able to flash the phone every time there is an update as he lives in a different country and I cant travel quite often.
Thanks
zaibrockstar said:
I had Nexus 4, Now I am using Nexus 5. I bought OPO to gift to my Dad and wanted to use adfree or adaway and give the phone as it is. But for them to work I need to root access. My understanding is once you put a unlock boot loader and have TWRP, then root it. I will loose OTA. I will not be able to flash the phone every time there is an update as he lives in a different country and I cant travel quite often.
Thanks
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Then I would go to the thread in general that shows you how to root your phone without unlocking bootloader and use that method . http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628
playya said:
Then I would go to the thread in general that shows you how to root your phone without unlocking bootloader and use that method . http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628
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Thanks for the info. I had read this, but was not clear.
Instead just run "fastboot boot recovery.img" and flash the supersu zip from there.
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What I have understood is we are just booting into default recovery and flashing the su binary. Is that correct ?
I have one risk in such case. I will not have an Nandriod Backup with default recovery.
Thanks
zaibrockstar said:
Thanks for the info. I had read this, but was not clear.
What I have understood is we are just booting into default recovery and flashing the su binary. Is that correct ?
I have one risk in such case. I will not have an Nandriod Backup with default recovery.
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Stock recovery can always be reflashed and you follow the directions as posted to the tee and yes you boot into recovery flash su binary and thats it. To my understanding you will be flashing twrp but instead of it sticking it just flashes for that session so that you can flash the su binary.
I would go to that thread and ask in there directly for those that have done it or google it. This is of course if that is the route you would like to take
I have received the ota & updated on twrp.No problems
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cyldman said:
Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!
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See this to root without unlocking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628/page4
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2022_VZW_EMMC_15_ AIO_Tool To Unlock_Bootloader+Install_TWRP And MM_QL1_Rooted_Rom Works On Any Version Bootloaders_MM_LL_KK-Reactivation Lock Remover

This Process Will Root Phone Unlock Your VZW EMMC 15 Chipset Bootloader Install TWRP Recobery And Imstall Latest QL1 Stock Rom .​
Downloads
S5_Root_Tools_2023.7z
EMMC_15_Rom.zip -- Stock QL1 6.0
Directions For Unlocking Stock Phone
I would recommend Windows defender is turned of before starting
1. Download S5_Root_Tools_2023.7z and unzip
2. Make sure Usb debugging is enabled on your phone
3. Plug in phone and run Safestrap.exe and follow directions on command window
4. This process is pretty much 1 click all automatic except following command window prompts
5. This will detect if your phone is EMMC 11 or 15
6. If it detects EMMC 15 it will automatically unlock your bootloaders.
7. Once process is done reboot too twrp and flash rom of choice or use provide one and flash root zip of choice
Regular Magisk
Releases · topjohnwu/Magisk
The Magic Mask for Android. Contribute to topjohnwu/Magisk development by creating an account on GitHub.
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Magisk Delta
Releases · HuskyDG/magisk-files
Contribute to HuskyDG/magisk-files development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
ETFSU
EFTSU Root Solutions
The Largest Database for the Root Solutions on the Internet
eftsu.com
Safteynet Fix Module
Releases · kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
Google SafetyNet attestation workarounds for Magisk - kdrag0n/safetynet-fix
github.com
Old Method And Old Downloads
EMMC_15_SS_Install_QL1_6_0_1_MM_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO_Rom.zip -- Rom Zip
EMMC_11_S5_Root_Tools_2022_V7.7z
-- Files Needed To Root Phone
Instructions To Root And Install Safestrap
**If you already have safestrap installed you can skip to Instructions To Unlock Bootloader
**If you are already rooted but do not have safestrap installed download View attachment S5_Safestrap.apk install then skip to Instructions To Unlock Bootloader**
Directions
1. Download both files and unzip EMMC_15_And_11_S5_Root_Tools_2022_V7.7z
2. Reboot phone too Download Mode by holding Power+VolDwn+HomeButton as phone starts up
3. Plug phone into computer and open the Odin provided in the above file in the Odin_Folder
4. In Odin Choose BL slot and choose the COMBINATION_VZW_FA44_G900VVRU2APA1_VZW2APA1_2572656_REV00_user_mid_noship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 Located in the Odin_Folder
5. Flash the file using provided Odin let phone reboot. This will wipe your phone
6. Once phone is rebooted make sure its plugged into computer and phone use recognized by computer
7. Run the Install_One_Click.cmd this should install safestrap. If this method fails countinue with below methods.
8. If above method fails you can reboot and try again or run the Manual_Install_Root_Apps.cmd and try below methods to root
Towel Root Method
These steps are only needed if above root method failed
1. You need too be connected to a network. Try one of towel root apps and if not successful then try the other one. If it doesn't work go to King root section
2. If towel root succeeds then run the click on the super su app and choose to update su binary and choose normal once successfully updated reboot phone
King Root Method
These steps are only needed if towel root failed
1. You will need to be connected to a network. Click on King root app then click try root
2. Once root is successful don't click on the optimize and close the king root app.
3, Run the Manual_Install_SuperSu.cmd
Installing Safestrap
9. This only needs to be done if 1Click bat method failed. Now click on safestrap app and clisk install safestrap click allow in root dialog app once installed click reboot to safestrap
10. Busybox must be installed ifirst if you used towelroot method too root
Instructions To Unlock Bootloader
11. Enter safestrap now in safetrap it will ask you to swipe to allow modding system make sure to do this now . If you have not copied the EMMC_15_SS_Install_QL1_6_0_1_MM_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO_Rom.zip from the EMMC_15_Bootloader_Unlock_Zip folder do so now Click install tab and choose EMMC_15_SS_Install_QL1_6_0_1_MM_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO_Rom.zip and install.
12. When done phone will power off.
13. Reboot phone to recovery you should now have TWRP recovery installed and the choose wipe the advanced wipe and wipe data only then reboot
14. Phone will reboot and stick on red Verizon screen for probably 15 to 20 min be patient. When finally booted you will have an unlocked bootloader with TWRP recovery running a Deodexed Rooted QL1 stock MM 6.0 Rom Rooted with EFTSU with root hide and safetynet pass module
Disabling Reactivation Lock
Thanks bbsc
1. Follow above directions too obtain safestrap and root
2. Download and flash EMMC_11_NCG_KK_Safestrap_Full.zip in safestrap then wipe data
This has Samsung Setup Wizard removed so you can get through setup
3. Set up a wireless connection or use your SIM-card and internet connection from your provider.
4. Navigate to Settings - Security, find Reactivation Lock and untick it. The phone will ask you for your existing credentials or to register a new Samsung account. Accept too update app then allow google check when it ask
5. Login to your new account and you will be able to untick Reactivation Lock.
6. When it unticked, Navigate to Settings - Backup Reset - Factory data Reset.
7. Phone will reboot too stock recovery and wipe data and remove current samsung account and you are good too go.
8. Now proceed with unlocking bootloader step 11 you have to enter safestrap from the safestrap splash screen on bootup its not installed as a recovery image because stock recovery is needed
Credits
beaups Sourcecode and tool
ryanbg
haggertk For his CID
autonomousperson For compiling the source to a app
magic_man185 For compiling the source
GeTex
klabit87 - Basically Everything
@GSMCHEN Lots of stuff
elliwigy Lots of stuff
afaneh92 -Safestrap and too much too mention
Sourcecode
https://github.com/beaups/SamsungCID
Instructions for downgrading or updating bootloaders can be found here
2022_VZW_EMMC_15_Chipset For Unlocked Dev BL To Downgrade To LL_KK Or Upgrade To MM_And Keep Unlock Bootloader
This Process Will Update Or Downgrade Your VZW EMMC Chipset DEV Aboot Bootloader Unlocked S5 To Marshmallow 6.0 Lollipop 5.0 Or Kitkat 4.2 or 4.4 Root And Unlock Instructions Can Be Found Here EMMC 15 Rooting And Bootloader Unlocking EMMC 11...
forum.xda-developers.com
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jrkruse said:
mine
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Nice job man! [emoji106]
stang5litre Edition 5.0 Roms
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Nice job man! [emoji106]
stang5litre Edition 5.0 Roms
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I was bored so I thought it would be fun to mess around with some old school stuff. Man things were alot more simple back in these days
@jrkruse awesome job...!! :good:You definitely must be bored... Lol. May try that on an old one for craps and giggles... Lol. Again, awesome to bring a lil history back to life... :good:
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I was bored so I thought it would be fun to mess around with some old school stuff. Man things were alot more simple back in these days
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Nice job man, much appreciated.
If you ever get bored try to make a pre-rooted rom/safestrap recovery (course no bootloader unlock) for the G930U/G935U with the latest firmware UUESACSI1 (Aug 27 2019), since it looks like Samsung has stopped updating this phone, or better yet a root-patcher for a stock sytem.img like you did for the G950/N950. I have uploaded the latest eng-boot vA/10 here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...postcount=1826
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I was bored so I thought it would be fun to mess around with some old school stuff. Man things were alot more simple back in these days
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How do I update the bootloader and rom to newer QL1 if I had already unlocked the bootloader and installed twrp with much older stock rom and bootloader?
I still have the stock rom from 2016 when the bootloader unlock method was discovered.
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How do I update the bootloader and rom to newer QL1 if I had already unlocked the bootloader and installed twrp with much older stock rom and bootloader?
I still have the stock rom from 2016 when the bootloader unlock method was discovered.
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the rar seems to be corrupted ... says unknown or damaged format. I tried a few of the download points.
Would you be able to re-create / upload?
bigstack said:
the rar seems to be corrupted ... says unknown or damaged format. I tried a few of the download points.
Would you be able to re-create / upload?
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What are you extracting it with?
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First of all, thank you so very much Jkruse! I followed all of your instructions and everything went perfectly! The reason why I wanted to get this completed on my old S5, is that we want to gift this phone to my wife's mother. The catch is, she only speaks Russian, and I was wondering if I would now be able to flash an international version of firmware on the S5, so that she can have access to Russian as a language option? Is this doable?
Remedy1230 said:
First of all, thank you so very much Jkruse! I followed all of your instructions and everything went perfectly! The reason why I wanted to get this completed on my old S5, is that we want to gift this phone to my wife's mother. The catch is, she only speaks Russian, and I was wondering if I would now be able to flash an international version of firmware on the S5, so that she can have access to Russian as a language option? Is this doable?
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Its really no easy process to flash an international rom if you are using Verizon then data will probably not work with out some editing. You can always try it but Verizon will probably need Verizon csc stuff to work and build.prop edits.
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Hey thanks for this post! I was worried about using some of the old guides on my phone, glad I found this.
However, I have a question due to why I want to root my phone.
My situation: My phone went through the factory reset process without giving me a warning before doing so. I plan on rooting my phone and trying a few different methods for recovering the files.
My Main Question: Will I be good to go with a fully rooted phone after completing step 12?
I don't feel a need to unlock the bootloader for what I'm doing (although I might do so anyway after I'm done attempting to recover files).
I've never rooted a phone before. Aside from verifying that I'm using the EMMC 15 chipset (I used the eMMC_CID_Checker_apk from this thread:https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529), is there anything else I should do or know about?
SaltedSand said:
Hey thanks for this post! I was worried about using some of the old guides on my phone, glad I found this.
However, I have a question due to why I want to root my phone.
My situation: My phone went through the factory reset process without giving me a warning before doing so. I plan on rooting my phone and trying a few different methods for recovering the files.
My Main Question: Will I be good to go with a fully rooted phone after completing step 12?
I don't feel a need to unlock the bootloader for what I'm doing (although I might do so anyway after I'm done attempting to recover files).
I've never rooted a phone before. Aside from verifying that I'm using the EMMC 15 chipset (I used the eMMC_CID_Checker_apk from this thread:https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve.../testers-required-easier-root-method-t3561529), is there anything else I should do or know about?
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By the time you root there will be no files to recovery. There is another wipe involved to root so chances are there will not be much left to recover
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jrkruse said:
By the time you root there will be no files to recovery. There is another wipe involved to root so chances are there will not be much left to recover
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I'm wondering if he's wanting to root to use a file recovery app, like DiskDigger. It can recover but device needs to be rooted to access the complete internal system to recover files. As he mentioned a few times about recovering/restoring files. I recall using that (DD) a couple times and it actually worked after I mistakenly did a full wipe/reset when I was switching between ROM's and back to stock...
al50 said:
I'm wondering if he's wanting to root to use a file recovery app, like DiskDigger. It can recover but needs device needs to be rooted to access the complete internal system to recover files. As he mentioned a few times about recovering/restoring files. I recall using that (DD) a couple times and it actually worked after I mistakenly did a full wipe/reset when I was switching between ROM's and back to stock...
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Like i said though in order to root you have to wipe again before you can root. So there aren’t going to be much left to recovery after 2 wipes and a repartition
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al50 said:
I'm wondering if he's wanting to root to use a file recovery app, like DiskDigger. It can recover but device needs to be rooted to access the complete internal system to recover files. As he mentioned a few times about recovering/restoring files. I recall using that (DD) a couple times and it actually worked after I mistakenly did a full wipe/reset when I was switching between ROM's and back to stock...
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Yeah that's what I have in mind.
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Like i said though in order to root you have to wipe again before you can root. So there aren’t going to be much left to recovery after 2 wipes and a repartition
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Yeah I figured, makes sense, but I don't see a mention of wiping before step 12 though. This is why I'm asking if it would be okay for me to stop there, attempt to recover some files, and then continue with the rest of the steps?
Could this potentially screw something up if I do it this way? I'd rather play it safe than sorry, most of my important stuff on this phone is backed up anyway.
SaltedSand said:
Yeah that's what I have in mind.
Yeah I figured, makes sense, but I don't see a mention of wiping before step 12 though. This is why I'm asking if it would be okay for me to stop there, attempt to recover some files, and then continue with the rest of the steps?
Could this potentially screw something up if I do it this way? I'd rather play it safe than sorry, most of my important stuff on this phone is backed up anyway.
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Flashing the combo firmware so you can root wipes your phone
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jrkruse said:
Flashing the combo firmware so you can root wipes your phone
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Ah, I see, but would it be safe for me to stop at step 12 anyway?
I figure I might as well give it a shot anyway, even if It's unlikely I'll recover anything, but I'd rather only wipe it a single time than twice.
SaltedSand said:
Ah, I see, but would it be safe for me to stop at step 12 anyway?
I figure I might as well give it a shot anyway, even if It's unlikely I'll recover anything, but I'd rather only wipe it a single time than twice.
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If you stop at 12 you will just have king root and some apps work with kingroot but some do not
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Return to Android 11 stock

I currently have android 11 which about 2 years ago I unlocked, installed TWRP and rooted. I later allowed the phone to update but didn't realize I should have re-flashed TWRP and root before I rebooted the phone so I lost the use of TWRP and root. Now I want to reflash android 11 but wont unlock and root the phone again but want TWRP. How do I go about doing this (I am not strong with what I need to do and have usually caused a problem before by using the wrong enchilada file, the last one that worked was twrp-3.3.1-18-enchilada-Q-mauronofrio I think) and which files should I use?
you can't flash anything on a locked phone so at the very least you can have it unlocked + twrp and no root if you wish
otherwise no twrp
croperas said:
you can't flash anything on a locked phone so at the very least you can have it unlocked + twrp and no root if you wish
otherwise no twrp
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That's what I want to do, sorry for any misunderstanding, I want to lock the phone so I can use financial apps and also have TWRP. What process and enchilada shall I use? I already downloaded OnePlus6TOxygen_34.J.62.
Westindieman said:
That's what I want to do, sorry for any misunderstanding, I want to lock the phone so I can use financial apps and also have TWRP. What process and enchilada shall I use? I already downloaded OnePlus6TOxygen_34.J.62.
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That's what i was saying, this is not possible, locking or unlocking requires full wipe which nullifies any custom things you do.
You can have a phone that's not rooted which should be good enough for most checks but if it checks the bootloader there's nothing you can do about it besides not use it or use stock
croperas said:
That's what i was saying, this is not possible, locking or unlocking requires full wipe which nullifies any custom things you do.
You can have a phone that's not rooted which should be good enough for most checks but if it checks the bootloader there's nothing you can do about it besides not use it or use stock
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I understand now thanks for your patience. What process should I follow then to return from here to stock and locked considering I don't have TWRP?
Westindieman said:
I understand now thanks for your patience. What process should I follow then to return from here to stock and locked considering I don't have TWRP?
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Backup what you need
Relock the bootloader
Flash stock rom using fastboot
I have relocked and am now trying to work out how to flash the new rom
All sorted now, didn't need to flash a new ROM
Awesome, Enjoy the phone

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