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Pipo M6 RK3188 16GB Review

Hey guys, I just received my Pipo M6 today so I thought I'd offer my experience so far. Keep in mind that I am coming from an iPad mini and my daily driver is a HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10.1.
Build Quality:
TBH, I was hoping for something a little better after reading some user reviews. It's still quite good overall but there's just a few too many seams and the edges are a little rough at certain points. Nothing major but it just feels like a made and designed in China product. It doesn't bother me so much though since I won't notice it after putting it in a case.
I was glad to find that underneath the temporary screen protector which comes with all new products these days, there was another one underneath it which means you won't need to bother with putting on one yourself.
Screen:
VERY pretty. Viewing angles are good and colours really pop. Brightness level is amazing and will surely be sufficient even if you are in the dessert. In terms of resolution, you can set it to HD mode or Normal which requires a restart. I couldn't really notice any differences although I might if I had another one sitting side by side. Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
User Interface:
As you may know, you have the choice of using the standard Jelly Bean interface or the special Pipo interface which makes everything look a bit like Windows 8. I chose to go with the latter. Everything is quite smooth although perhaps not quite as flawless as my iPad mini but with Android devices, I've come to accept that.
I really like where they're going with this interface although there are some definite rough edges. It comes preloaded with 5 home screens labeled: Home, Media, Apps, Office and Web. These can not be removed. Within each, there are some widgets which corresponds to their respective headings. These widgets cannot be changed or removed. The other objects that cannot be changed or removed are the boxes ala Windows 8 which are predetermined to be either editable shortcuts or folders. I find this a bit annoying because sometimes I don't need so many folders and would prefer to just launch an app immediately when I tap it. You can add more homescreens and name them how you like but you can't change their colour or the types of boxes they contain. Overall, it all looks very nice but needs to be more customisable.
Performance:
I haven't had a chance to install any games yet but so far the "feel" of the device seems very solid. I do have a problem when trying to install N.O.V.A. 3, i can't even find it in the Google Play Store. After finding it through Google, it says that my device cannot support it. I don't get it. My One X can install this game and it's far below the specs of the M6. If anyone can let me know why this is, I can install it and let you know how it performs.
Battery Life:
When I opened the box, it was already switched on and showed that it had been running on battery for about 28 hours (so it was probably opened by customs since it was posted out a week ago). Since then I've had the screen almost constantly on doing various things for the last 5 hours and it still has 40% juice left. Pretty good then!
Conclusion:
Overall, I'm quite happy. It has some small niggles but then it was pretty cheap. For the people who are worried that the RK3188 can't handle a retina display, I think you can relax. Everything runs smoothly enough. Plus, if you really prefer a lower resolution, you can change it in the settings to conserve battery life and increase performance. It beats having an M7, M8 or M9 purely because they have much smaller batteries. The 2x5000 mAh battery in the M6 was designed for the retina screen so if you use the normal resolution, it would wipe the competition clean.

MarcusJKX said:
Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
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This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.

Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
Sent from my JB 4.2.2 powered HTC Desire using Tapatalk

pulsar124 said:
This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
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Ahh i see, that makes sense. I never owned a device without physical or capacitive buttons so it didn't occur to me.
andbroe said:
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
Sent from my JB 4.2.2 powered HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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Yeah I think it's also not bad. I wouldn't really call them gaps, but the seam that runs around the edge of the device definitely doesn't look consistent on my machine; some parts look a tiny fraction wider than the rest. Maybe you had better luck. bBy the way, do you have any idea why the Google Play Store won't let me download N.O.V.A. 3? I'm sure the specs are enough since even my HTC One X running a Tegra 3 can download it. Only thing I can think off is that the internal storage doesn't have enough space but then shouldn't it download into the NAND Flash? I have plenty of space there.
UPDATE: Been spending some more time with it. I am liking it less now that it's frozen up twice (both times requiring a hard reset by sticking a little needle in the small hole next to the back camera - didn't lose anything though). Also, I have a few apps that force the tablet into a vertical orientation and every time, they would force it into an upside down position (where the power button would be on the bottom as well as the front camera). I guess this indicates that the tablet's natural position is contrary to its physical design. I find this quite annoying to be honest and should hopefully be easily fixable with a firmware update. I hope they get on it! God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.

MarcusJKX said:
God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
See you

andbroe said:
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
See you
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?

MarcusJKX said:
Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
Steve

5teve said:
Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
Steve
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?

I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.

MarcusJKX said:
Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
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On mine which is on the SDK2 firmware - there is a big difference with chrome and the stock browsers - chrome is massively laggy, freezes, stutters and is generally rubbish. Stock browser is fast and smooth. The only issue I have is not being able to scroll down on translated pages (htcmania) but change of orientation solves that..
regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve

matnl said:
I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
5teve said:
regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve
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Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.

MarcusJKX said:
Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
Steve

5teve said:
No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
Steve
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?

MarcusJKX said:
Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
Steve

5teve said:
Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
Steve
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.

matnl said:
I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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Alright, my M6 froze again today whilst using Pulse so I think I've had enough. I'm gonna try to flash it with a rom. A couple of questions first. How can I check which SDK I'm on? It says my Kernel version is 3.0.36+ from June 25th. Does that mean I'm on SDK2.0 already since it's the latest?
Anyways, I don't wanna bother anyone here with writing out a full instructional so can someone please just confirm that all I need to do is follow this guide: http://www.freak-tab.de/rrileypm/First Time User Guide_pr0_rev5.pdf Of course, instead of using the RileyROM 1.2, I will use the M6 4.2.2 #20 from http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 . Also, why are there two files with the same name there? One uploaded on the 13th and one on the 15th of July? Thanks alot guys!

i already posted this to other threads
i bought my pipo m6 a week ago.. so far so bad!.. first off, i got a dirt INSIDE the screen, i was forced to remove the screen guard to see if its not a dirt in between the screen and the screen guard. unfortunately its inside the screen so there's no way of removing it without opening the whole system.. 2nd, im experiencing lags and forced close, QUAD CORE? 2GB RAM? what the!! my friends dual core phone is much better! mine doesnt even have to many apps yet. 3rd, i tried to play 1080 movies, mp4, it lags and crashes at me. aside from all this disappointing experience PIPO luncher form time to time force closes. another worse experience is that i experience FREEZE UP. the whole system froze while browsing facebook, for 20 minutes, all hardware buttons, touchscreen are not responding. i was forced to reset it via the little whole at the back of the device....i already updated to the 6/26 firmware release... but still getting the same issues. battery was good YES. but performance was disappointing. NOT TO MENTION the other users who comment about the SPEAKER! GOD! speaker sucks! based on a video i watched it was loud! but my SONY NEO V is way better! i hope that there is a FIRMWARE FIX to all this! except ofcourse about the screen dirt.. i was expecting to much about the new processor (QUAD CORE, better the DUAL CORE, RIGHT???), the ram but was getting to much frustration. the only GREAT thing about this device is the RETINA SCREEN, not including the DIRT of course, the the BATTERY!
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SquallDNA said:
i already posted this to other threads
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.

MarcusJKX said:
I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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i hope so too. thanks

SquallDNA said:
i hope so too. thanks
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I just flashed the RileyROM 1.2. They were right, it really was very easy. I'm in the process of restoring everything. I'll report back with my impressions on the performance later.

erratic behaviour

Hi there.
I have a nexus 5 not rooted without roms. it is as came as fabric. And it has a problem of overheating and an erratic behaviour. when i try to get back to the home, when i´m suing an app. It opens other app like the gallery or snapseed.
Any idea of what could be the problem.?
thanks and sorry for my english!:silly:

It sounds like you might have a bad device. I'd try to flash it back to stock and if the problems still persist I'd rma it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47156064

jd1639 said:
It sounds like you might have a bad device. I'd try to flash it back to stock and if the problems still persist I'd rma it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47156064
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This is the second time i contact with Google for the same problem, in fact this device is the one that they gave me to replace mine. So i don´t know if i have bad luck or is a bad mobile

robertuus said:
This is the second time i contact with Google for the same problem, in fact this device is the one that they gave me to replace mine. So i don´t know if i have bad luck or is a bad mobile
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maybe you are touching a small part on tbe edge if the screen when you press home. ive never heard of your issue, and the chances of you getting 2 like that in a row are extremely small. its a much better chance that you are doing something. also, you say overheating, the n5 overheats near 100C, is it really overheating? or does it just feel warm in your hand? what cpu temp does it reach?

Owners Thread

Thought I'd make an owners thread where we can discuss about the phone, what we've installed, what rom, themes and customisations we're using etc.

Have to say quite impressive build, thought it was metal but the black is a dark navy blue
Was installing a few apps just generally using it and noticed the phone heating with light usage, anyone notice that?

ermacwins said:
Have to say quite impressive build, thought it was metal but the black is a dark navy blue
Was installing a few apps just generally using it and noticed the phone heating with light usage, anyone notice that?
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No heating here...maybe its because i had a Mi4i before and that phone was heating. Really. After 2 minutes of use it was over 50°C and got throttled. I have never seen my Mi4c going over 40°C. Sometimes it gets "handwarm" i would say, but heating is definately the wrong word. I'm using 5.10.22 from xiaomi.eu.

rob rich said:
No heating here...maybe its because i had a Mi4i before and that phone was heating. Really. After 2 minutes of use it was over 50°C and got throttled. I have never seen my Mi4c going over 40°C. Sometimes it gets "handwarm" i would say, but heating is definately the wrong word. I'm using 5.10.22 from xiaomi.eu.
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Can confirm my 4c is absolutely fine with no heating as another former 4i owner. That phone would grind to a halt due to overheating despite using optimised kernels and through standard app usage (no gaming, taking videos, etc at all).

How are you lot measuring temps? I'm gonna flash latest build now and maybe cm later

We should have a whatsapp group for if we run into problems or anything!

@wingsfortheirsmiles
We know what heating is
Never had such a poor performing phone like the Mi4i.
Mi4c is perfect

Hmm still noticing heat in latest update
Does anyone have a miui cd folder mount when connecting to the PC?

ermacwins said:
Hmm still noticing heat in latest update
Does anyone have a miui cd folder mount when connecting to the PC?
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What?
And regarding your other question, i use kernel adiutor to look after the temps at the Moment its at 28°C.
Maybe they sent you a Mi4i

ermacwins said:
Hmm still noticing heat in latest update
Does anyone have a miui cd folder mount when connecting to the PC?
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Yeah, I had this when still on MIUI but it should show up as storage (as normal) as well
edit: @rob rich indeed, the 4i is even worse than other SD615 phones, maybe due to the compact form factor?
Anyway I'm still really enjoying CM apart from being unable to transfer data through USB. Must be something to do with my PC though as no one else seems to have this issue.

Definately Mi 4c though it doesnt have their remote app but I installed one from play store and its working good.
Did anyone get a 3 pin plug convertor? I got a 2 pin and one of the pins in bent. Also does it come with the micro usb adapter?
Im gonna try the smiui build then cm

No microUSB Adapter for me

Is the back camera flush fit to on the back of the phone? If I run my finger down from the top I can feel the 'rough' edge but its smooth from the bottom. What I'm saying is it slightly sticks out at the top

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Is the back camera flush fit to on the back of the phone? If I run my finger down from the top I can feel the 'rough' edge but its smooth from the bottom. What I'm saying is it slightly sticks out at the top
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Yes, thats normal

moved to Mi4c and it seems that WSM is not working anymore...
is there any way i can remove the text under the icons on stock launcher of MIUI ?

i was originally gunning for new nexus and walked right away after i saw the price. on my 2nd day of using mi4c, and happy with it. its gonna take some time getting used to miui, not having app drawer. but overall, i am happy and most likely going to root this phone soon and get rid of these useless chinese app(almost all don't work in Korea).

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i was originally gunning for new nexus and walked right away after i saw the price. on my 2nd day of using mi4c, and happy with it. its gonna take some time getting used to miui, not having app drawer. but overall, i am happy and most likely going to root this phone soon and get rid of these useless chinese app(almost all don't work in Korea).
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You could install something like Holo Launcher and have your old app drawer back.

@evank418, go to Android Development subforum and enjoy the CM-Mokee port!
I've been running it the last three days and it works smooth as silk, with only one bug that is the torch not working.

I received my Mi4C today and have to say it's a slick little phone, nice and thin, smooth operation and great screen. MIUI however is awful, I would like to change it. I advised evank418 above to install Holo Launcher and I did the same myself but it keeps reverting back to MIUI when I press the home button, which is a bit annoying.
Would anyone here know a way around it?

Played around with it a little bit longer and after flashing xiaomi.eu_multi_libra_5.10.8_v7-5.1 I was asked what launcher I wanted after pressing the home button. I chose Holo there and I'm happy! Now all I need to do is adjust some more settings, remove some of the bloatware and we're good to go!

Phone getting slow after some time

My phone is dropping the framerate on touching the screen occasionally, stuttering for a short time. It is fine again after rebooting, but I am facing this problem since I got the phone three weeks ago. Does anyone else experience this? Is there a solution? I am worried this could be a hardware defect.

Try to reinstall the ROM. You can install full ROM without losing data. If that doesn't help, try a clean install.

Yes I see it too. In fact I started a thread on this in Q&A section but nobody seems to be interested
Nothing I seem to do in terms of tweaking the performance parameters seems to help. It can be fine for half an hour and then out of nowhere a few frames are dropped and it looks awful
It's ok 98% of the time but those 2% are making it hard for me to love this phone.

Lownita said:
My phone is dropping the framerate on touching the screen occasionally, stuttering for a short time. It is fine again after rebooting, but I am facing this problem since I got the phone three weeks ago. Does anyone else experience this? Is there a solution? I am worried this could be a hardware defect.
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It sounds like a rogue app is taking control of your phone. I checked your Profile GPU rendering screenshot against mine, and indeed, mine never goes much higher above one-half length of the green line, which I think may be the 120fps limit (the green line itself is 16ms or 60fps.)
Seems to me that you need to uninstall some custom/rare apps to troubleshoot this issue.
It is definitely not normal behavior.

carlos67 said:
Yes I see it too. In fact I started a thread on this in Q&A section but nobody seems to be interested
Nothing I seem to do in terms of tweaking the performance parameters seems to help. It can be fine for half an hour and then out of nowhere a few frames are dropped and it looks awful
It's ok 98% of the time but those 2% are making it hard for me to love this phone.
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So my guess is that either people don't notice it, but I think that's quite impossible as even some kernel devs told me they wouldn't experience this. Or it's a fault in oos itself. Or we are using an app or some setting that's causing this. Or it's a kind of defect, which I think is unlikely but not impossible.
I am about to reset the phone completely to stock with msm download tool and start from scratch. Have you already done something similar?
Next idea would be flashing Omni ROM as I believe this is one of the most clean and fluid custom roms. If all of this fails, I would start to believe it's a hardware problem.

Lownita said:
I am about to reset the phone completely to stock with msm download tool and start from scratch. Have you already done something similar?
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I would suggest you learn adb/ fastboot to do this so you learn to know what, how and why you doing this and that.
Not really difficult but extremly helpful if you face problems.

The large amount of applications and internet uses it may slow. Better cleared all caches and it's working properly.

Question Ghost Touch at the Center Part of the Display

Anyone experiencing ghost touches on the center part of the display? I thought I was just accidentally touching but it turns out there are ghost touches. It rarely happens and I still couldn't figure out the reason. Note: cleaning the screen of moisture didn't help.

ijuanp03 said:
Anyone experiencing ghost touches on the center part of the display? I thought I was just accidentally touching but it turns out there are ghost touches. It rarely happens and I still couldn't figure out the reason. Note: cleaning the screen of moisture didn't help.
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Haven't noticed personally. Using a screen protector?

I removed the screen protector to check if is causing it but still the same. It happens rarely though.

ijuanp03 said:
I removed the screen protector to check if is causing it but still the same. It happens rarely though.
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Hmm. It happens during use or in charging or ?.

Shadowthor said:
Hmm. It happens during use or in charging or ?.
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During. When I'm just scrolling through my apps or even playing games. It doesn't matter if I am in a cold or warm environment. It even happens when I'm doing basically nothing - staring at my homescren and suddenly it opens the app located at the center.
To give you a better view, here's my homescreen. The ghost touch is located on Waze app but sometimes on Moto or even Settings app.

Try safe mode.
I would ditch Waze app and flipboard.
Try clearing the system cache.
See what's running in the background when it happens.
Use the factory diagnostic touch screen test to see if it may be hardware caused. Not sure how you access it it on that phone.

ijuanp03 said:
During. When I'm just scrolling through my apps or even playing games. It doesn't matter if I am in a cold or warm environment. It even happens when I'm doing basically nothing - staring at my homescren and suddenly it opens the app located at the center.
To give you a better view, here's my homescreen. The ghost touch is located on Waze app but sometimes on Moto or even Settings app.
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Hmm that's weird. Did it happen recently? Did you install any new apps?
Hopefully it's not hardware related.
You can use cqa test to check the hardware. *#*#2486#*#*

Nahhh it's not related to any app. I may be wrong but it could be the software update from Motorola since I didn't encounter the issue when I first used the phone.

ijuanp03 said:
Nahhh it's not related to any app. I may be wrong but it could be the software update from Motorola since I didn't encounter the issue when I first used the phone.
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A new update got pushed out?

Not entirely new. The latest software update RR31.Q2-12-14-7.
Shadowthor said:
A new update got pushed out?
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ijuanp03 said:
Not entirely new. The latest software update RR31.Q2-12-14-7.
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Oh that update. I have it but I don't currently see the ghosting issues you mentioned yet. Did you end up using the cqa test to check screen?

Shadowthor said:
Oh that update. I have it but I don't currently see the ghosting issues you mentioned yet. Did you end up using the cqa test to check screen?
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Yah. All the standard testing done. My phone seems to work fine now after removing 1 sim while keeping the other. It must be affecting the internals when dual SIM is utilized which is a design flaw or was not tested properly.

ijuanp03 said:
Yah. All the standard testing done. My phone seems to work fine now after removing 1 sim while keeping the other. It must be affecting the internals when dual SIM is utilized which is a design flaw or was not tested properly.
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Could be a blown sim card. Replace both and follow ESD protocol when handling them, always.
Handle like a stick of ram.
Excessive ESD exposure can cause random failures immediately or worse, days, weeks even years latter. These cards are dirt cheap but a delayed failure can cost you dearly...

ijuanp03 said:
Yah. All the standard testing done. My phone seems to work fine now after removing 1 sim while keeping the other. It must be affecting the internals when dual SIM is utilized which is a design flaw or was not tested properly.
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Hmm weird. Haven't tested out dual Sim but it shouldn't cause this issue.

I have encountered at least 30 users reporting this problem in China. Including but not limited to many users from official forums.
https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/forum-1567-1.html
https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/thread-7814429-1-1.html
https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/thread-7814577-1-1.html
https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/thread-7814895-1-1.html

nullschool said:
I have encountered at least 30 users reporting this problem in China. Including but not limited to many users from official forums.
https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/forum-1567-1.html
https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/thread-7814429-1-1.html
https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/thread-7814577-1-1.html
https://mclub.lenovo.com.cn/thread-7814895-1-1.html
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And so I thought mine is an isolated case. Motorola is yet to confirm if this is hardware or software related.

ijuanp03 said:
Anyone experiencing ghost touches on the center part of the display? I thought I was just accidentally touching but it turns out there are ghost touches. It rarely happens and I still couldn't figure out the reason. Note: cleaning the screen of moisture didn't help.
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Hello everyone!
I have this same problem here on my brazilian Moto G100 and in the same place almost in the center of the screen. After removing the screen protector, the problem is more difficult to happen, but it still happens rarely, requiring a cleaning of the screen for the problem to stop happening for a while.
I noticed that the problem happens several times when I leave the smartphone leaning against metallic surfaces or other electronic devices.
Is it necessary to use the warranty to replace this screen or can a firmware update solve this problem?
Regards!

I'm Chinese user.My device have this problem.Our forum many people reaction to this problem

I can confirm I have the same problem. I don't know if it's hardware or software yet

wow I haven't had any problem, but if you find any solution or coment from motorola sopport please post it