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[Q] Virtual Desktop Performance

Has anyone have any experience using the Transformer as virtual desktop?
I would love to be able to log in via the browser via windows small business server to run all of my work apps when necesary while on the road.
I read that there was included software to help with this??? (Can't find the review that mentioned it now)
(I apologize if there is a thread somewhere on this!)
Thanks!

tfhiv said:
Has anyone have any experience using the Transformer as virtual desktop?
I would love to be able to log in via the browser via windows small business server to run all of my work apps when necesary while on the road.
I read that there was included software to help with this??? (Can't find the review that mentioned it now)
(I apologize if there is a thread somewhere on this!)
Thanks!
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That will be my first project once I get mine in, test it with couple of remote desktop apps. I will update you once I write a review!
I use virtual desktop, virtual viewer and pocketcloud on my EVO and they have helped when a PC/windows wasn't available so its worth it. It would be interesting to see how these apps behave on a tablet.

there's a built in app for remote desktop. I'll report back after I get mine friday.

The app built-in (since firmware update 1) is a free version of splashtop. It works very well.

forgive the stupid question...
But with a virtual desktop app, I know you can log into your computer and make the computer do stuff (run programs, open files, etc.).
I only tried it out once a while ago on a phone and it was neat, but altogether too difficult to really use on a phone. However witha tablet, that should be a different story.
My question is, can you load a media file one the computer and will it actually display on your tablet? Could I open Zune up on my computer and play a song and have the sound come through on the tablet? I imagine that's not possible... but a guy can dream can't he?

nubbin77 said:
My question is, can you load a media file one the computer and will it actually display on your tablet? Could I open Zune up on my computer and play a song and have the sound come through on the tablet? I imagine that's not possible... but a guy can dream can't he?
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That is the idea behind splastop but i could be wrong.. if you wait and soon we will have mobile virtualization happening on these devices.

Holy cow, thanks for the fast response. And I just went to splashtop's website... That just looks great, exactly what I would want.

Is it better than Logmein Ignition?

nubbin77 said:
forgive the stupid question...
But with a virtual desktop app, I know you can log into your computer and make the computer do stuff (run programs, open files, etc.).
I only tried it out once a while ago on a phone and it was neat, but altogether too difficult to really use on a phone. However witha tablet, that should be a different story.
My question is, can you load a media file one the computer and will it actually display on your tablet? Could I open Zune up on my computer and play a song and have the sound come through on the tablet? I imagine that's not possible... but a guy can dream can't he?
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you can. you can also play 720p or 1080p with sound.

ledhed said:
Is it better than Logmein Ignition?
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way way way wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better

ledhed said:
Is it better than Logmein Ignition?
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from the videos, it look a lot better.
If you are looking for something like RDP, then pocketcloud is good app... which I prefer over a apps like logmein which require installation on the client.

nubbin77 said:
forgive the stupid question...
But with a virtual desktop app, I know you can log into your computer and make the computer do stuff (run programs, open files, etc.).
I only tried it out once a while ago on a phone and it was neat, but altogether too difficult to really use on a phone. However witha tablet, that should be a different story.
My question is, can you load a media file one the computer and will it actually display on your tablet? Could I open Zune up on my computer and play a song and have the sound come through on the tablet? I imagine that's not possible... but a guy can dream can't he?
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Yes it can do all that. It even streams video files pretty well. It sends the audio to the tablet as long as you set your desktop machine to stereo sound.

dotpro said:
from the videos, it look a lot better.
If you are looking for something like RDP, then pocketcloud is good app... which I prefer over a apps like logmein which require installation on the client.
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I've used both, on my iPhone and now on my Acer (the trial, I'm not gonna buy it when it will be free on my transformer).
If you have a strong wifi connection it's awesome.
It's awesome that ASUS includes it for free.

Since I have a captive audience..
Can you log in, play music, then switch back to the tab and still have the music playing in the background (like if I wanted to browse the web from the tablet's apps while i listen to the music from the remote log in)?

tfhiv said:
Has anyone have any experience using the Transformer as virtual desktop?
I would love to be able to log in via the browser via windows small business server to run all of my work apps when necesary while on the road.
I read that there was included software to help with this??? (Can't find the review that mentioned it now)
(I apologize if there is a thread somewhere on this!)
Thanks!
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I do something similar now on my Nook color using Logmein Ignition - works great.. and the transformer is much faster/bigger screen..
-mark

nubbin77 said:
Since I have a captive audience..
Can you log in, play music, then switch back to the tab and still have the music playing in the background (like if I wanted to browse the web from the tablet's apps while i listen to the music from the remote log in)?
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no.
download amazons cloud app
that will let you upload all your music and listen to it anywhere.

splashtop
I posted a video (review II) on youtube with a little demo on splashtop
and another one (splashtop tutorial) shows how to set it up if you want to connect to your computer outside of a local network
go check it out if u'd like, sorry I can't post links here yet

andyxover said:
I posted a video (review II) on youtube with a little demo on splashtop
and another one (splashtop tutorial) shows how to set it up if you want to connect to your computer outside of a local network
go check it out if u'd like, sorry I can't post links here yet
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Andy! Welcome to XDA! Your videos were awesome!

andyxover said:
I posted a video (review II) on youtube with a little demo on splashtop
and another one (splashtop tutorial) shows how to set it up if you want to connect to your computer outside of a local network
go check it out if u'd like, sorry I can't post links here yet
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I'll do that for you, Andy.
Splashtop
Your reviews were awesome!

i just tried out Splashtop (the link is inside the Mycloud app btw not seperate logo) and it streams video and sound great. I tried it with Zune software and it worked great.

Does Wyse Pocketcloud only support 4:3 resolutions ?

I downloaded pocketcloud (Free version) from the market few minutes back. It works fine, I could connect to my PC without any problems, I like the mouse implementation, and everything is good. Except the screen resolution. For some reason It only let me use 4:3 resolutions (1280x1024,1024x768,800x600 and 640x480). I looked everywhere in the settings of both Android and PC app, but there is no place to enable or set a wide screen resolution. When I use one of the above resolutions, PC screen shows up to the left and there is a huge black box on the right. I saw a couple of youtube videos where it runs full screen at wide screen aspect ratio. Why doesnt it work for me ? I would gladly buy the full version which is like $8, but only if it works in full screen mode.

Was not happy with resolution also with Wyse. Check out "2x" in market. This will go full tablet when opened, plus the free version supports multiple connection configuration unlike Wyse free.

PhoenixFx said:
I downloaded pocketcloud (Free version) from the market few minutes back. It works fine, I could connect to my PC without any problems, I like the mouse implementation, and everything is good. Except the screen resolution. For some reason It only let me use 4:3 resolutions (1280x1024,1024x768,800x600 and 640x480). I looked everywhere in the settings of both Android and PC app, but there is no place to enable or set a wide screen resolution. When I use one of the above resolutions, PC screen shows up to the left and there is a huge black box on the right. I saw a couple of youtube videos where it runs full screen at wide screen aspect ratio. Why doesnt it work for me ? I would gladly buy the full version which is like $8, but only if it works in full screen mode.
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No such complaints with the full version. Full screen works perfectly with Automatic resolution.

PhoenixFx said:
I would gladly buy the full version which is like $8, but only if it works in full screen mode.
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The paid version does support full screen resolution. Once I bought it, the PCs I connected to automatically went full screen, I didn't have to set the resolution. With the desktop client installed it is a super convenient RDP client. The only problem I have with it is that when using a USB mouse the right-click acts as a back button.
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If you can pony up $5, SplashTop blows both 2X and Wyse out of the water. You get uber smooth remote desktop... of the likes you've probably never seen before.
Be sure to get the HD version...

antoniouslj said:
If you can pony up $5, SplashTop blows both 2X and Wyse out of the water. You get uber smooth remote desktop... of the likes you've probably never seen before.
Be sure to get the HD version...
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But can it work behind a firewall (without port forwarding) ? I want something that can, haven't tested wyse completely but from the looks of it,seemed like it can.

PhoenixFx said:
But can it work behind a firewall (without port forwarding) ? I want something that can, haven't tested wyse completely but from the looks of it,seemed like it can.
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As long as you install the desktop companion, Wyse will work behind a firewall. I saw in the comments of splashtop that it wasnt working behind a firewall but that "they are working on it." I also really like the way Wyse makes everything accessible from the on-screen cursor. Not sure how Splashtop takes care of things like right-click and drag n drop, but I like how Wyse does it. I also like that Wyse supports VNC for my Linux box.
I wish splashtop had a free light version so I could compare it without buying another RDP app. Although I see splashtop just lowered the price again, so I may have to give it a shot while it's on sale.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

Pardon me if I'm wrong but isn't splashtop included by default on the Transformer? It's part of the MyCloud app.

Lawliet said:
Pardon me if I'm wrong but isn't splashtop included by default on the Transformer? It's part of the MyCloud app.
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Yes it is! Very little point in paying for something that Asus has given you for free.
Regards,
Dave

Remote Desktop + Surface RT + Windows 8

I don't see many posts about remote desktop but I've found that using my Surface RT + remote desktop to connect to my Windows 8 Pro computer at home is an amazing way to work. The touchscreen even works to navigate the remote computer.
And, since the micro hdmi on the surface supports 1080p, I can connect to a full size screen.

Does this actually work fine then? It's what I plan on doing tbh, I have a media centre PC under my TV that I want to install Windows 8 Pro on and use Remote Desktop.

brummiesteven said:
Does this actually work fine then? It's what I plan on doing tbh, I have a media centre PC under my TV that I want to install Windows 8 Pro on and use Remote Desktop.
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it works very well. I do prefer the classic RDP client over the new RT one though because of easier touch gestures.

brummiesteven said:
Does this actually work fine then? It's what I plan on doing tbh, I have a media centre PC under my TV that I want to install Windows 8 Pro on and use Remote Desktop.
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The screen on the htpc will lock when you rdp in. If you want to see the screen on the tv and your surface you'll have to use remote assistance.

moosic said:
The screen on the htpc will lock when you rdp in. If you want to see the screen on the tv and your surface you'll have to use remote assistance.
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Doesn't bother me too much... although it'd be good to have both, I just want tot have the option there to run Intel apps *if* I ever had the need.

It's actually awesome! I use Vuze a lot for movies and such. I have them saved on my computer, and use the network link to move them to my Surface. I was thinking I would need to do it thru the SD Card, but this is much easier
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Is it possible to use the older RDP client and enable monitor spanning to remote connect using the tablets screen as well as a 1080p monitor?

For the sake of argument, could you use the remote desktop to use image editing software such as Photoshop through the Surface? Obviously, the screen is probably way too small in terms of both physical size and resolution to really be of much use but for less complex editing it would be awesome...

Absolutely. Bear in mind that the Surface RT doesn't have a stylus digitizer, so you'd be stuck with capacitive touch or mouse+keyboard for input (although now that I think about it, you can probably use a Wacom USB tablet with the Surface's USB port...) but in general, yes you could do this. I already have Remote Desktop pinned to my Surface's taskbar (along with Powershell, which also allows a different kind of remote access).

GoodDayToDie said:
Absolutely. Bear in mind that the Surface RT doesn't have a stylus digitizer, so you'd be stuck with capacitive touch or mouse+keyboard for input (although now that I think about it, you can probably use a Wacom USB tablet with the Surface's USB port...) but in general, yes you could do this. I already have Remote Desktop pinned to my Surface's taskbar (along with Powershell, which also allows a different kind of remote access).
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That is good to hear! My dilemma has been that I want a portable device so that I'm not glued to my desk for the majority of the day but the major obstacle has been finding a tablet that can actually do what my computer does. Remote Desktop sounds like an answer.

What would the frame rate be stable enough to remote my computer and remote desktop from work with no lag?
For example, internet browsing on chrome or watching a youtube video through remote desktop.

tehsprayer said:
What would the frame rate be stable enough to remote my computer and remote desktop from work with no lag?
For example, internet browsing on chrome or watching a youtube video through remote desktop.
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Or you can download google chrome and the app for remote desktop for chrome....Works pretty good for me.....should work fine for surface....or RT...

You should search the forum - there is a thread on Remote Desktop, and it explains how to use Remote Apps, which imho, is the best way to utilize x86 apps on your surface RT...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1977545&highlight=remote+apps
I get little to no lag running Photoshop, AutoCAD, etc. For the few times that I actually need to run an x86, this is the way to go. Do not expect to stream movies, or music from your desktop - although, I guess it depends on your connection - I have my home laptop connected to Linksys G router (im sure if I upgraded to N, it might be faster).

I found an interesting company (Mikogo) who have launched a cloud based Windows 8 desktop (which is actually Windows Server 2012). This doesn't have a windows 8 app but runs through HTML. In theory this would be great as it says you can install your own apps so is less restrictive than Cloudon and Onlive Desktop if you've used those on other platforms.
I requested an account and could then access a desktop via HTML5 using IE on my Windows 8 PC. However it doesn't work on my Surface RT browser (Metro or desktop) as the mouse cursor is not captured for some reason (I've tried via the touchpad and a mouse via USB). Note that even on a PC the performance is slow, although this is a beta.
If anyone wants to try this out I'm curious why it doesn't work in the RT IE10 browser but it does on the desktop. I did feed this back to Mikogo but they don't have an RT device to use (they suggested I try another browser on RT )

VNC has already been ported. Does the job, can be controlled by either device PC or RT.

solution for Remote access?

Hi,
At home, I have both PC and iMac. I want to be able to connect to these devices via my note 8.0.
I know solution called LogMeIn, but it is an expensive one.
Do you know other cheap solution for the same task?
Thanks,
Tomer
PS - don't mind to have two apps , one for MAC, one for my PC

teisner said:
Hi,
At home, I have both PC and iMac. I want to be able to connect to these devices via my note 8.0.
I know solution called LogMeIn, but it is an expensive one.
Do you know other cheap solution for the same task?
Thanks,
Tomer
PS - don't mind to have two apps , one for MAC, one for my PC
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2x Client: http://www.2x.com/rdp-client/
Free, fast, convenient, just Android app - no additional software needed on PC, just configure RDP. According to to their website it works with Mac, but I don't know the details.
Add any Wake On LAN app, and you can remotely start your computer before launching RDP.
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teisner said:
Hi,
At home, I have both PC and iMac. I want to be able to connect to these devices via my note 8.0.
I know solution called LogMeIn, but it is an expensive one.
Do you know other cheap solution for the same task?
Thanks,
Tomer
PS - don't mind to have two apps , one for MAC, one for my PC
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I use Splashtop to connect to Windows 8. It basically turns my android tablet into a windows tablet temporarily. I think it is renamed to splashtop personal.
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For the best performance use Splashtop. VNC/RDP/X Forwarding and some other solutions can offer decent latancy for simple stuff but Splashtop is the best I've ever seen.
Also while most solutions make it impossible to watch a video over the connection and "Animation heavy" apps a pain, back before XFinity had an app, I would use Splashtop from my tablet and watch the movie through my desktops browser.
It's worth whatever the initial cost is these days.
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Drag I didn't see this yesterday. Splashtop Remote HD & regular were both free on Amazon yesterday.
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regarding splashtop hd
ExploreMN said:
Drag I didn't see this yesterday. Splashtop Remote HD & regular were both free on Amazon yesterday.
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Regarding splashtop & splashtop HD, although they're were both free, they're both older versions of splashtop personal (originally splashtop 2). they're not nearly as fast especially when switching from primary to secondary monitors. Althought... free is free.

jump desktop also allows rdp and vnc connections
the free version is limited to creating one connection only, however.

Best Remote Access
Splashtop Personal is best in quality to watch videos and control. btw, it's free over the same network bt access from anyware costs.....

more great things about splashtop
flixblixclix said:
Splashtop Personal is best in quality to watch videos and control. btw, it's free over the same network bt access from anyware costs.....
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yup splashtop is great:
1) it's streamer is also portable. From what I've read on the forums, you can copy it's whole program folder onto a usb flashdrive and run it from there so you don't have to install anything onto another computer if you ever have to control it via a local network (perfect for those on the spot power point presentations, this is where the screen 1 and 2 switcher on splashtop personal really flat out beats the old splashtops).
2) The only grip is with splashtop's new and faster technology, both computer and android device now should log in at least once via the net for it to work. you can disable the internet connection after but they must log in once. It would have been perfect except for this modification. As I said earlier, for those on the spot power point presentations, even with the portable streamer, you don'e always have access to the internet. Wish it had manual connection mode like the old splashtop.The only draw back...but otherwise...the best of the best....:

teamviewer, nothing better than that, with teamviewer qs, u can even remote yr android from pc, with teamviewer free, u can remote yr pc from android

flixblixclix said:
Splashtop Personal is best in quality to watch videos and control. btw, it's free over the same network bt access from anyware costs.....
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Use OpenVPN to connect to your home network and use Splashtop. I had to do this since LogMeIn keep crashing my MacBook.
Download OpenVPN virtual machine, run it on your machine that is in ask the time, download the app from Google Play and you're good to go.

Shield like streaming except to PC?

I've had such a positive experience with shield streaming even remotely it has renewed my interest in streaming to multiple platforms.
Has any software come out to low latency stream one PC to another PC? I'd love to be able to use relatively cheap laptops which have massive battery life and use my home computer to do all the computing like with the shield.
Anyone have any experience with trying this?

HobsonA said:
I've had such a positive experience with shield streaming even remotely it has renewed my interest in streaming to multiple platforms.
Has any software come out to low latency stream one PC to another PC? I'd love to be able to use relatively cheap laptops which have massive battery life and use my home computer to do all the computing like with the shield.
Anyone have any experience with trying this?
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The best you're probably going to get is using Splashtop. I've used it to play games that were on my desktop, but had problems with a couple occasionally.

Limelight
These guys have worked on porting the the protocol and tech that the shield uses (Gamestream) to other android devices: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505510
They are currently working on porting it to PC. There is a pre-alpha build of the program in the thread but you should note that the program is in its very early stages.

YOU ARE IN LUCK! Check out kainy.com

Splashtop 2 is the best I've used, well worth the sub, especially if you own multiple machines.
One thing i have noticed since I started using the shield is that splash-top now streams games just fine to any of my devices in true full screen, it used to tell me full screen was incompatible with splash top but ever since i started streaming with the shield it works just fine. It must be something related to the shield/geforce experience streaming software that tricks the slashtop into working in fullscreen.
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very interesting, giving this a try now.

Hm if I want to use splashtop I'll have to re-setup vpn again so I don't have to pay that remote cost. I wonder if someone ever wrote a program like the shield proxy to forward just the stuff used by splashtop to my PC to avoid slow VPN.
Let me know how that kainy.com works out seems a bit sketchy to me lol

HobsonA said:
Hm if I want to use splashtop I'll have to re-setup vpn again so I don't have to pay that remote cost. I wonder if someone ever wrote a program like the shield proxy to forward just the stuff used by splashtop to my PC to avoid slow VPN.
Let me know how that kainy.com works out seems a bit sketchy to me lol
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You can also use Limelight for remote streaming. It works with Shield Proxy just the same as the real streaming software on the Shield itself. Just run the Windows binary on the machine that you'll be streaming from, setup the port forwarding, and you're set. Whenever you connect remotely, specify the external IP address of your router.

cgutman said:
You can also use Limelight for remote streaming. It works with Shield Proxy just the same as the real streaming software on the Shield itself. Just run the Windows binary on the machine that you'll be streaming from, setup the port forwarding, and you're set. Whenever you connect remotely, specify the external IP address of your router.
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Well my shield works fine what I'm trying to do now is do shield quality streaming to another PC. I have this very powerful desktop and a bunch of fairly weak laptops would love to stream to a laptop to use my desktop quality gaming anywhere for those games which need a keyboard and mouse and cant do on shield.

HobsonA said:
Well my shield works fine what I'm trying to do now is do shield quality streaming to another PC. I have this very powerful desktop and a bunch of fairly weak laptops would love to stream to a laptop to use my desktop quality gaming anywhere for those games which need a keyboard and mouse and cant do on shield.
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Yep, there's a PC port of Limelight that uses the same technology as the Shield. There's more info in the Limelight thread.
https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-pc/releases

cgutman said:
Yep, there's a PC port of Limelight that uses the same technology as the Shield. There's more info in the Limelight thread.
https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-pc/releases
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Well that's worth a look it seems people have got streaming to work to their Rasberry Pi and here i was worried about using a very low powered high battery life laptop.