Remote Desktop + Surface RT + Windows 8 - Microsoft Surface

I don't see many posts about remote desktop but I've found that using my Surface RT + remote desktop to connect to my Windows 8 Pro computer at home is an amazing way to work. The touchscreen even works to navigate the remote computer.
And, since the micro hdmi on the surface supports 1080p, I can connect to a full size screen.

Does this actually work fine then? It's what I plan on doing tbh, I have a media centre PC under my TV that I want to install Windows 8 Pro on and use Remote Desktop.

brummiesteven said:
Does this actually work fine then? It's what I plan on doing tbh, I have a media centre PC under my TV that I want to install Windows 8 Pro on and use Remote Desktop.
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it works very well. I do prefer the classic RDP client over the new RT one though because of easier touch gestures.

brummiesteven said:
Does this actually work fine then? It's what I plan on doing tbh, I have a media centre PC under my TV that I want to install Windows 8 Pro on and use Remote Desktop.
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The screen on the htpc will lock when you rdp in. If you want to see the screen on the tv and your surface you'll have to use remote assistance.

moosic said:
The screen on the htpc will lock when you rdp in. If you want to see the screen on the tv and your surface you'll have to use remote assistance.
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Doesn't bother me too much... although it'd be good to have both, I just want tot have the option there to run Intel apps *if* I ever had the need.

It's actually awesome! I use Vuze a lot for movies and such. I have them saved on my computer, and use the network link to move them to my Surface. I was thinking I would need to do it thru the SD Card, but this is much easier
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Is it possible to use the older RDP client and enable monitor spanning to remote connect using the tablets screen as well as a 1080p monitor?

For the sake of argument, could you use the remote desktop to use image editing software such as Photoshop through the Surface? Obviously, the screen is probably way too small in terms of both physical size and resolution to really be of much use but for less complex editing it would be awesome...

Absolutely. Bear in mind that the Surface RT doesn't have a stylus digitizer, so you'd be stuck with capacitive touch or mouse+keyboard for input (although now that I think about it, you can probably use a Wacom USB tablet with the Surface's USB port...) but in general, yes you could do this. I already have Remote Desktop pinned to my Surface's taskbar (along with Powershell, which also allows a different kind of remote access).

GoodDayToDie said:
Absolutely. Bear in mind that the Surface RT doesn't have a stylus digitizer, so you'd be stuck with capacitive touch or mouse+keyboard for input (although now that I think about it, you can probably use a Wacom USB tablet with the Surface's USB port...) but in general, yes you could do this. I already have Remote Desktop pinned to my Surface's taskbar (along with Powershell, which also allows a different kind of remote access).
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That is good to hear! My dilemma has been that I want a portable device so that I'm not glued to my desk for the majority of the day but the major obstacle has been finding a tablet that can actually do what my computer does. Remote Desktop sounds like an answer.

What would the frame rate be stable enough to remote my computer and remote desktop from work with no lag?
For example, internet browsing on chrome or watching a youtube video through remote desktop.

tehsprayer said:
What would the frame rate be stable enough to remote my computer and remote desktop from work with no lag?
For example, internet browsing on chrome or watching a youtube video through remote desktop.
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Or you can download google chrome and the app for remote desktop for chrome....Works pretty good for me.....should work fine for surface....or RT...

You should search the forum - there is a thread on Remote Desktop, and it explains how to use Remote Apps, which imho, is the best way to utilize x86 apps on your surface RT...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1977545&highlight=remote+apps
I get little to no lag running Photoshop, AutoCAD, etc. For the few times that I actually need to run an x86, this is the way to go. Do not expect to stream movies, or music from your desktop - although, I guess it depends on your connection - I have my home laptop connected to Linksys G router (im sure if I upgraded to N, it might be faster).

I found an interesting company (Mikogo) who have launched a cloud based Windows 8 desktop (which is actually Windows Server 2012). This doesn't have a windows 8 app but runs through HTML. In theory this would be great as it says you can install your own apps so is less restrictive than Cloudon and Onlive Desktop if you've used those on other platforms.
I requested an account and could then access a desktop via HTML5 using IE on my Windows 8 PC. However it doesn't work on my Surface RT browser (Metro or desktop) as the mouse cursor is not captured for some reason (I've tried via the touchpad and a mouse via USB). Note that even on a PC the performance is slow, although this is a beta.
If anyone wants to try this out I'm curious why it doesn't work in the RT IE10 browser but it does on the desktop. I did feed this back to Mikogo but they don't have an RT device to use (they suggested I try another browser on RT )

VNC has already been ported. Does the job, can be controlled by either device PC or RT.

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Splashtop alternative

While the Splashtop app that comes pre-installed on the TF300 is pretty neat, it differs from Windows implementation of Remote Desktop in several ways. Most significantly to me is that the image that you see on the TF300's screen is a mirror of your PC's current desktop, including aspect ratio and screen resolution (scaled). In Microsoft's implementation of RDP, the remote machine is unavailable while an RDP session is in progress, which allows for the session to conform to the client machine's native screen resolution.
Is there an alternative to Splashtop that more closely resembles Microsoft's implementation of RDP?
I ask because my desktop PC sports two 1280 x 1024 resolution screens, and when I open a Splashtop session, not only do I see a single screen (scaled to squeeze a 1024 vertical resolution down to 800) but my second screen is completely invisible.
Look up teamviewer. I'm not sure how it compares but it's free so worth a shot. when I tried it, out had much more options than splashtop. My buddy who is a network admin recommended it to me.
enomele said:
Look up teamviewer. I'm not sure how it compares but it's free so worth a shot. when I tried it, out had much more options than splashtop. My buddy who is a network admin recommended it to me.
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+1 TeamViewer
Another +1. Desktops/servers... Works great.
if you are looking for something that functions like the Remote Desktop app in Windows, the only one that I've found that does that is 2X Client RDP/Remote Desktop. You don't install anything on a host pc like most of these other apps require.
I can use 2X to log into my work's windows server, just like if I was Remote Desktop on a windows PC. Navigating can sometimes be a little tricky, but the app includes a built in mouse emulator that makes things easier.
You can edit the settings for a computer in the Splashtop app to fit the resolution of the tablet (I use "Best fit to this device"). You can also switch between monitors by tapping 3 fingers (which is pretty damn difficult to get it to register at times); I switch between my monitors all the time. Only thing with multiple monitors is that it only adjusts the resolution of the primary display on your computer and not the others.
Thanks for all the tips, guys.

Remote Desktop tip

Type remote desktop in the search charm. Set it up with your desktop running windows 8. You will notice that your surface is running your windows 8 desktop just like its a totally different surface. You still swipe in on the left to pull up the charm bar but instead of getting info from your surface it pulls up all your desktop items. You can run all your x86 programs right from your surface. I just watched a mkv file on vlc player using my remote desktop it was a little sketchy but very usable. I just thought it was a good way to switch between the two. Im sure many have used this just thought some may like to know!!

solution for Remote access?

Hi,
At home, I have both PC and iMac. I want to be able to connect to these devices via my note 8.0.
I know solution called LogMeIn, but it is an expensive one.
Do you know other cheap solution for the same task?
Thanks,
Tomer
PS - don't mind to have two apps , one for MAC, one for my PC
teisner said:
Hi,
At home, I have both PC and iMac. I want to be able to connect to these devices via my note 8.0.
I know solution called LogMeIn, but it is an expensive one.
Do you know other cheap solution for the same task?
Thanks,
Tomer
PS - don't mind to have two apps , one for MAC, one for my PC
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2x Client: http://www.2x.com/rdp-client/
Free, fast, convenient, just Android app - no additional software needed on PC, just configure RDP. According to to their website it works with Mac, but I don't know the details.
Add any Wake On LAN app, and you can remotely start your computer before launching RDP.
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teisner said:
Hi,
At home, I have both PC and iMac. I want to be able to connect to these devices via my note 8.0.
I know solution called LogMeIn, but it is an expensive one.
Do you know other cheap solution for the same task?
Thanks,
Tomer
PS - don't mind to have two apps , one for MAC, one for my PC
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I use Splashtop to connect to Windows 8. It basically turns my android tablet into a windows tablet temporarily. I think it is renamed to splashtop personal.
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For the best performance use Splashtop. VNC/RDP/X Forwarding and some other solutions can offer decent latancy for simple stuff but Splashtop is the best I've ever seen.
Also while most solutions make it impossible to watch a video over the connection and "Animation heavy" apps a pain, back before XFinity had an app, I would use Splashtop from my tablet and watch the movie through my desktops browser.
It's worth whatever the initial cost is these days.
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Drag I didn't see this yesterday. Splashtop Remote HD & regular were both free on Amazon yesterday.
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regarding splashtop hd
ExploreMN said:
Drag I didn't see this yesterday. Splashtop Remote HD & regular were both free on Amazon yesterday.
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Regarding splashtop & splashtop HD, although they're were both free, they're both older versions of splashtop personal (originally splashtop 2). they're not nearly as fast especially when switching from primary to secondary monitors. Althought... free is free.
jump desktop also allows rdp and vnc connections
the free version is limited to creating one connection only, however.
Best Remote Access
Splashtop Personal is best in quality to watch videos and control. btw, it's free over the same network bt access from anyware costs.....
more great things about splashtop
flixblixclix said:
Splashtop Personal is best in quality to watch videos and control. btw, it's free over the same network bt access from anyware costs.....
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yup splashtop is great:
1) it's streamer is also portable. From what I've read on the forums, you can copy it's whole program folder onto a usb flashdrive and run it from there so you don't have to install anything onto another computer if you ever have to control it via a local network (perfect for those on the spot power point presentations, this is where the screen 1 and 2 switcher on splashtop personal really flat out beats the old splashtops).
2) The only grip is with splashtop's new and faster technology, both computer and android device now should log in at least once via the net for it to work. you can disable the internet connection after but they must log in once. It would have been perfect except for this modification. As I said earlier, for those on the spot power point presentations, even with the portable streamer, you don'e always have access to the internet. Wish it had manual connection mode like the old splashtop.The only draw back...but otherwise...the best of the best....:
teamviewer, nothing better than that, with teamviewer qs, u can even remote yr android from pc, with teamviewer free, u can remote yr pc from android
flixblixclix said:
Splashtop Personal is best in quality to watch videos and control. btw, it's free over the same network bt access from anyware costs.....
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Use OpenVPN to connect to your home network and use Splashtop. I had to do this since LogMeIn keep crashing my MacBook.
Download OpenVPN virtual machine, run it on your machine that is in ask the time, download the app from Google Play and you're good to go.

Shield like streaming except to PC?

I've had such a positive experience with shield streaming even remotely it has renewed my interest in streaming to multiple platforms.
Has any software come out to low latency stream one PC to another PC? I'd love to be able to use relatively cheap laptops which have massive battery life and use my home computer to do all the computing like with the shield.
Anyone have any experience with trying this?
HobsonA said:
I've had such a positive experience with shield streaming even remotely it has renewed my interest in streaming to multiple platforms.
Has any software come out to low latency stream one PC to another PC? I'd love to be able to use relatively cheap laptops which have massive battery life and use my home computer to do all the computing like with the shield.
Anyone have any experience with trying this?
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The best you're probably going to get is using Splashtop. I've used it to play games that were on my desktop, but had problems with a couple occasionally.
Limelight
These guys have worked on porting the the protocol and tech that the shield uses (Gamestream) to other android devices: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2505510
They are currently working on porting it to PC. There is a pre-alpha build of the program in the thread but you should note that the program is in its very early stages.
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Splashtop 2 is the best I've used, well worth the sub, especially if you own multiple machines.
One thing i have noticed since I started using the shield is that splash-top now streams games just fine to any of my devices in true full screen, it used to tell me full screen was incompatible with splash top but ever since i started streaming with the shield it works just fine. It must be something related to the shield/geforce experience streaming software that tricks the slashtop into working in fullscreen.
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YOU ARE IN LUCK! Check out kainy.com
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very interesting, giving this a try now.
Hm if I want to use splashtop I'll have to re-setup vpn again so I don't have to pay that remote cost. I wonder if someone ever wrote a program like the shield proxy to forward just the stuff used by splashtop to my PC to avoid slow VPN.
Let me know how that kainy.com works out seems a bit sketchy to me lol
HobsonA said:
Hm if I want to use splashtop I'll have to re-setup vpn again so I don't have to pay that remote cost. I wonder if someone ever wrote a program like the shield proxy to forward just the stuff used by splashtop to my PC to avoid slow VPN.
Let me know how that kainy.com works out seems a bit sketchy to me lol
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You can also use Limelight for remote streaming. It works with Shield Proxy just the same as the real streaming software on the Shield itself. Just run the Windows binary on the machine that you'll be streaming from, setup the port forwarding, and you're set. Whenever you connect remotely, specify the external IP address of your router.
cgutman said:
You can also use Limelight for remote streaming. It works with Shield Proxy just the same as the real streaming software on the Shield itself. Just run the Windows binary on the machine that you'll be streaming from, setup the port forwarding, and you're set. Whenever you connect remotely, specify the external IP address of your router.
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Well my shield works fine what I'm trying to do now is do shield quality streaming to another PC. I have this very powerful desktop and a bunch of fairly weak laptops would love to stream to a laptop to use my desktop quality gaming anywhere for those games which need a keyboard and mouse and cant do on shield.
HobsonA said:
Well my shield works fine what I'm trying to do now is do shield quality streaming to another PC. I have this very powerful desktop and a bunch of fairly weak laptops would love to stream to a laptop to use my desktop quality gaming anywhere for those games which need a keyboard and mouse and cant do on shield.
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Yep, there's a PC port of Limelight that uses the same technology as the Shield. There's more info in the Limelight thread.
https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-pc/releases
cgutman said:
Yep, there's a PC port of Limelight that uses the same technology as the Shield. There's more info in the Limelight thread.
https://github.com/limelight-stream/limelight-pc/releases
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Well that's worth a look it seems people have got streaming to work to their Rasberry Pi and here i was worried about using a very low powered high battery life laptop.

[Q] How to mirror my PC screen to my Nexus 5?

Hi Everyone,
Most people are asking how to mirror their phone's screen to a TV or PC monitor. Well I need to do the opposite. Does anyone know how I can mirror my PC screen to my Nexus 5? I am looking for the option with the least lag, even if it is via USB and not wireless.
Thanks in advance!
I would say your best bet would be to use Chrome Remote Desktop. Download the app on your phone, and download the chrome extension on your PC.
PsychDrummer said:
I would say your best bet would be to use Chrome Remote Desktop. Download the app on your phone, and download the chrome extension on your PC.
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Thanks. I will try that. Do you know if it is laggy?
Actually I don't need to be able to work with my desktop through my phone. All I need is to see what is displayed on my PC with the least lag possible.
StarSquall said:
Thanks. I will try that. Do you know if it is laggy?
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It has worked the best for me out of all the similar apps (i.e teamviewer). However, it depends on what you need it for. For example, if you want to mirror videos it might not work well.
You can try splashtop, it usually is pretty smooth https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.splashtop.remote.pad.v2&hl=en
or even microsoft's own remote desktop app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.rdc.android
You can try splashtop, it usually is pretty smooth
or even microsoft's own remote desktop app
Thanks a lot, splashtop works reasonably well. I have an AMD video card, so I suppose that helps a bit.
I do not need the desktop controls, etc. I need so to say, just use my phone as a monitor, so if I can find something with even better quality and sacrificing those controls it would be even better
StarSquall said:
You can try splashtop, it usually is pretty smooth
or even microsoft's own remote desktop app
Thanks a lot, splashtop works reasonably well. I have an AMD video card, so I suppose that helps a bit.
I do not need the desktop controls, etc. I need so to say, just use my phone as a monitor, so if I can find something with even better quality and sacrificing those controls it would be even better
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The quality will all be down to the network on both ends.
So the download speed of your phone and the upload speed of your home internet. If these are weak you will always experience problems.
Apps like teamviewer help as they connect to a middle man server which means you are less likely to see as big a delay than connecting directly where the connection as I said above is more dependant.
Not used splashtop personally. Microsoft's RDP is alright but I'm happy with Teamviewer i use it on all my pc's i work on. Having it on my mobile just means I can work from anywhere remotely.
brichardson1991 said:
The quality will all be down to the network on both ends.
So the download speed of your phone and the upload speed of your home internet. If these are weak you will always experience problems.
Apps like teamviewer help as they connect to a middle man server which means you are less likely to see as big a delay than connecting directly where the connection as I said above is more dependant.
Not used splashtop personally. Microsoft's RDP is alright but I'm happy with Teamviewer i use it on all my pc's i work on. Having it on my mobile just means I can work from anywhere remotely.
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Ok. So I was wandering if there is a way to do that via USB in order to avoid the internet issues, of course only if it can get better. I am not sure exactly what bandwidth is needed to stream my 1080p screen and if it can be done smoothly via micro USB.
Other than that I have an acceptable amount of lag with splashtop, yet it crashes if I go full screen on my PC for some programs (I tried a few games too). But running in windowed mode works fine.

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