I just want a HDMI dongle for my tv, that I can cast my phone screen to. Mostly so that, I can use a controller and play my phone games on my tv, the phone acting like a mini-console.
-> What will perform better, chromecast or miracast/ezcast? chromecast dongle costs about twice as much, so I just want to make sure it's worth it
-> how good is the performance with either? will i be getting full framerate etc? I have tried several hdmi cable adapters and none of them seem to work for me (yes, even after plugging in power, best i could manage is choppy/flickery performance) so i'm trying to get this as a workaround
any other info i should know? phone is rooted so no worries there
my chromecast runs fine, it have a bit delay, but it's ok.
Miracast works well too.
I don't see any differences.
have you tried it while gaming? i mean some nice 3d games that are using a lot of the phone's power. for example soulcraft ii (it's free). does it affect the quality of the screen sharing?
DryEagle said:
have you tried it while gaming? i mean some nice 3d games that are using a lot of the phone's power. for example soulcraft ii (it's free). does it affect the quality of the screen sharing?
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anyone else have any info?
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anyone else have any info?
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There is a noticeable lag with the Chromecast. It is very smooth, but its about a half a second behind. I don't think it would be good for gaming unless you are playing some sort of turn based game.
I also have a LG TV with miracast support, but it is unusable. It shows one frame every 10 seconds or so.
I have miracast. It lags too...I don't think it was meant for gaming. Unless it was a turn based one. There is also a slight loss of video quality
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Hi, just had an idea and I thought I'd post it to see if there is any apps like this or if it is even possible?
Would it be possible to use a tablet pc as a monitor, either to extend your pc desktop, or to play xbox 360, or PS3 on? (no one cares about the wii, ha ha) The console controllers are wireless, it would be awesome if the screen could be wireless too. You wouldn't need to stop playing for a bathroom break, ha ha.
It has wireless and bluetooth, has nvidia tegra 2, and can play 1080p video, it seems as though the hardware is in place to do it... I'm not sure about bluetooth, but wifi should be more than fast enough to stream the video and audio.
There would most likely need to be software on both sides to get it to work.
Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up, any ideas?
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Hi, just had an idea and I thought I'd post it to see if there is any apps like this or if it is even possible?
Would it be possible to use a tablet pc as a monitor, either to extend your pc desktop, or to play xbox 360, or PS3 on? (no one cares about the wii, ha ha) The console controllers are wireless, it would be awesome if the screen could be wireless too. You wouldn't need to stop playing for a bathroom break, ha ha.
It has wireless and bluetooth, has nvidia tegra 2, and can play 1080p video, it seems as though the hardware is in place to do it... I'm not sure about bluetooth, but wifi should be more than fast enough to stream the video and audio.
There would most likely need to be software on both sides to get it to work.
Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up, any ideas?
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I don't see it happening. Definitely not with the consoles, opens up a whole HDCP / DRM can of worms. As to a PC, you can always use a remote desktop app.
Would you really want to?
Tablets are a compromise between screen real-estate and portability. Their screens are half the size of the smallest desktop monitors you can buy and low-end monitors aren't that expensive.
If you want dual screens on your PC, buying a second monitor is a far superior option than slaving your tablet screen to your desktop PC.
Fair enough.
Just thought it would be useful.
You can!
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.idisplay.virtualscreen&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc&feature=related
Check it out...
Haha, that's crazy.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.idisplay.virtualscreen&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc&feature=related
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Running Vegan7 here and iDisplay works, mainly use it for a status monitor as I already have 3 24" widescreens, just seemed like a novel idea.
chad
Wow, that's really cool.
That's actually exactly what I had in mind when I started this thread. Awesome.
Still don't have a tablet yet. Have one on the way though.
How does it work? Software on pc and tablet communicate over wifi?
Thanks
I got my Xoom now and the iDisplay does seem to work.
Here is a review of a friend of mine using it on his.
Yep, this was exactly what I had in mind when I posted this thread. It's slow and buggy, but I'm sure it will improve and it does work for certain functions.
Yes, this idea has been around in different forms for different OSes for quite a while. Sorry, but truly new ideas for apps are really few and far between.
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https://market.android.com/details?id=com.idisplay.virtualscreen&feature=search
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBD-H8Bhehc&feature=related
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Sweet!
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Seem to be having HDMI out problems, I bought this phone so I can watch my movies out to a big screen, I tried it on two different TVs. At first it works, and then when I try stuff or like try to play angry birds it start flickering going back and forth from snow back to the phone, sometimes just stops working all together. Also it looks like crap, like trying to use the web or what not, especially text.
when I try to watch 720p movies i downloaded in like mkv, they play so smooth and look great on the phone, but out to the TV, most times the phone will slow completely down, and get really choppy and laggy, if you try to get the menu back or play buttons. if it does play it doesn't look like a 720p should, comparing on playing the file on my computer, it looks pixelated and doesn't play that smooth, kinda gives you motion sickness sometimes.
Does anyone else have these problems, is this a defective phone that I should return? can anyone confirm.
also just curious, I seen other people say they played the trailers that came on their phones and it looked great. Mine didn't come with any trailers on it.
Well mine came with trailers, though I didn't try looking at them on the big screen...I did, however, look at several high resolution pictures and a 1080p video that looked great on the PHONE'S display and it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD...
Because angry bird are only made for phones not a 720p resolution, lol angry bird on TV haha buy Xbox or ps2 much better ;p
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The phone can not handle playback on a big screen unfortunately. The chopiness is purely due to processor lag. The hdmi out is more for presentations, not super useful
Angry Birds plays fine on my TV. As a matter of fact my nephew was playing it last night. It looks amazing on my TV. Try using an expensive HDMI cable, the cheap ones will not work. I had 2 HDMI cables and I first used the one that was like $20 and had this issue so i switched that out for the $50 cable and bam no problems. It really depends on the cable. Because of the info that's being sent thru the cable. Along with movies, I have a music video on my phone in .mp4 format in 1080p that plays perfectly, me and my friend were watching it like 20 times the other day.
Why can't i watch media hub on my tv it says it can't play on my tv when the app is running
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Angry Birds plays fine on my TV. As a matter of fact my nephew was playing it last night. It looks amazing on my TV. Try using a different HDMI cable, yours may be defective/may not support the current standard. I had 2 HDMI cables and both had this issue so i switched that out for a different cable and bam no problems. It really depends on the cable. Because of the info that's being sent thru the cable. Along with movies, I have a music video on my phone in .mp4 format in 1080p that plays perfectly, me and my friend were watching it like 20 times the other day.
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Fixed that for you, you just need to accept that you got ripped off!
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Why can't i watch media hub on my tv it says it can't play on my tv when the app is running
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Because the movies are copy protected. It a feature of the Media Hub. Samsung probably doesnt want people to pirate the movies/tv shows they sell on there.
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Seem to be having HDMI out problems, I bought this phone so I can watch my movies out to a big screen, I tried it on two different TVs. At first it works, and then when I try stuff or like try to play angry birds it start flickering going back and forth from snow back to the phone, sometimes just stops working all together. Also it looks like crap, like trying to use the web or what not, especially text.
when I try to watch 720p movies i downloaded in like mkv, they play so smooth and look great on the phone, but out to the TV, most times the phone will slow completely down, and get really choppy and laggy, if you try to get the menu back or play buttons. if it does play it doesn't look like a 720p should, comparing on playing the file on my computer, it looks pixelated and doesn't play that smooth, kinda gives you motion sickness sometimes.
Does anyone else have these problems, is this a defective phone that I should return? can anyone confirm.
also just curious, I seen other people say they played the trailers that came on their phones and it looked great. Mine didn't come with any trailers on it.
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Try a different player like rockplayer or I think vlc is out now too... Stock video player sucks. Also try removing stage-fright enable player = false.... See if that helps, its a line in the build.prop.
Hi,
I have bought a mhl cable, but when it is connected to the tv, shows 24 fps limit.
Its good for watching vodeos but in games it should be 60 fps.
So what can i do
Thanks
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Buy a PS3
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I don't think the phone can handle 60fps on a big TV. I've tried GTA3 connected to a 42in TV and off course it was choppy as ****.
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Buy a PS3
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I have xbox 360 lol
but i want to see my phone in 60fps without lags
TV's will only play at 24fps thorugh HDMI unless you have one of these crazily high hz ones
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TV's will only play at 24fps thorugh HDMI unless you have one of these crazily high hz ones
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In addition to which our Sensation seems to lack the horsepower to play anything via MHL truly smoothly as well. If you want to experiment for a laugh, download Electopia game/benchmark from the Market. When you start the app you will be asked if you want to run it at WVGA or full screen. Start with WVGA, then, on the next screen select 'benchmark mode'. After it finishes (about a minute) it will give you a score in cluding the average fps. Now go back and do the same full screen (it will be lower). Now go back and run both tests with the phone connected to the tv via MHL and you will see it's even lower. I get:
WVGA: 39.75 fps
960x540: 33.68 fps
WVGA connected to tv via MHL: 29.62 fps
960x540 connected to tv via MHL: 25.09 fps
Bear in mind these are averages so it's likely that frame rates are dropping substantially below this at times. In addition, in percentage terms, those framerates are a world apart. At least I can now quantify why Shadowgun and MC3 are a bit frustrating via MHL.
I'm hoping that as the newer phones come to market this year journalists will get their backsides into gear and start benchmarking these kind of factors for us ; ) For those of use that want to connect our device to a tv then control it via bluetooth keyboard and a mouse (essentially use it as a little media pc for light gaming/internet/movies/email etc), this kind of info is really important. Wish I'd known before I bought it. Not sure how well the new 720p screened devices will get on with the extra pixels AND duplicating the image to a tv...
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In addition to which our Sensation seems to lack the horsepower to play anything via MHL truly smoothly as well. If you want to experiment for a laugh, download Electopia game/benchmark from the Market. When you start the app you will be asked if you want to run it at WVGA or full screen. Start with WVGA, then, on the next screen select 'benchmark mode'. After it finishes (about a minute) it will give you a score in cluding the average fps. Now go back and do the same full screen (it will be lower). Now go back and run both tests with the phone connected to the tv via MHL and you will see it's even lower. I get:
WVGA: 39.75 fps
960x540: 33.68 fps
WVGA connected to tv via MHL: 29.62 fps
960x540 connected to tv via MHL: 25.09 fps
Bear in mind these are averages so it's likely that frame rates are dropping substantially below this at times. In addition, in percentage terms, those framerates are a world apart. At least I can now quantify why Shadowgun and MC3 are a bit frustrating via MHL.
I'm hoping that as the newer phones come to market this year journalists will get their backsides into gear and start benchmarking these kind of factors for us ; ) For those of use that want to connect our device to a tv then control it via bluetooth keyboard and a mouse (essentially use it as a little media pc for light gaming/internet/movies/email etc), this kind of info is really important. Wish I'd known before I bought it. Not sure how well the new 720p screened devices will get on with the extra pixels AND duplicating the image to a tv...
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Thank u very much for good info, so there is no way to see our screen on tv with higher fps !?
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Thank u very much for good info, so there is no way to see our screen on tv with higher fps !?
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Based on the performance of our phone and what bonesy said above, I guess not. I guess you could try overclocking your Sensation to make it maintain 24fps and see if that helps....
Before I buy my next phone I'll try and make sure it has the power to mirror to a tv smoothly.
In my endlessly circular deliberations between Note 10.1 and Nexus 10 I am now focussing on streaming to TV.
Can anyone answer whether the Allshare adaptor for TV
a Works with the Note 10.1
b Mirrors the screen exactly or only streams selected content (video/music/photos etc)
c Requires a Wifi connection as well as an HDMI and separate power source
Many thanks
a. Yes
b. Yes
c. no yes yes
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a. Yes
b. Yes
c. no yes yes
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Excellent, that may have swung it, as rumours seem to indicate that N10 miracast support is not functioning, despite being capable.
I looked at ipad/Airplay but that's over Wifi which means it's largely non-portable.
Thank you
I very much enjoy my allshare. Plus after registering with samsung, they gave me 50% off, so that was nice, getting the adapter for only 50 bucks!
When watching netflix, youtube, or hulu, it will put the video on the tv and you can use the seek function on the note. Also, with the youtube app, you can have the video play in full screen on the tv and do limited browsing on the note, like the related to videos and stuff like that while you are finishing up your current video. I haven't noticed much out of sync with the videos, I think that mostly has to do the my internets at the time because I have had the same kind of issues using hdmi and my laptop. It is soooo much nicer not having any wires to mess with, just connect on demand. It makes this by far the coolest thing, plus the ir transmitter so you can do everything on the note.
One thing I did have to do, after doing a lot of flashing and changing a lot of stuff, not sure if you would be doing the same, but I had to use triangle away to reset my flash count to get it to work, most other people never have to do that, but for whatever resaon that is the only way I got it to work for me
Great. I probably won't root yet anyway. Unless it is required for all share.
I'm going to wait until the official jb update then root after that.
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does the Allshare dongle Support Miracast ? possible to connect via Nexus 7/10 to that dongle? or via Windows WiFi direct+special Tool?
kinda sad that the dongle needa external Power And is huge. But Else cool stuff.
If you are referring to the wireless adapter, it works very well and works with hbo go and YouTube. It works well enough that I just went and bought this tablet due to the fact that I used it with my sgs3.
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I can get it to connect and play for maybe 2 minutes until it starts freaking out and I have to disconnect it. The latency is great up until then. That feature is a very important one to me but it won't work. I know it's in beta but i'm not sure if that's what needs to be worked on or if they just want to reduce the latency more and improve the image quality. I have other miracast devices and they act the same way with the exception of 2 of them. The nexus 7 doesn't work right, i have a galaxy s4 clone and my main phone that work badly.
I used it one night while playing ShineRunner with my wife. I had her screen miracast on the TV so I could help her out. It worked great for about 10 minutes then started acting up and I had to kill it.
I wanted to know the same thing and am shocked nobody has really tested a few devises for least lag and shuttering.
I bought the Actiontec ScreenBeam Pro and updated its FW.
I'd say the lag is minimal and is not my main issue now.
Random shuttering can be a pain. It can vary from a only few times to a lot. At this point it seems to be trigger by some games more than others.
Afterburner with a touch profile shuttered a lot (35% of the time) not sure if it a resource issue with the touch profile or general interference in my room.
I played dead trigger 2 with native controls shuttered a lot less(10-15% of the time)
I had the device less than 5 ft during my tests.
This site has done some basic latency tests a handful of these miracast devices. It seems the Netgear Push2TV (PTV3000) had the least lag when used in a pc environment.
http://data.withinwindows.com/miracast-display-devices-and-windows-81-compatibility/
I think I will go buy the Netgear Push2TV tonight on my way home from work and test it.
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Having a game mode on the tv helps a lot with lag. If you stack the lag with the non-game mode picture processing of the tv and the miracast protocol it becomes very noticeable.
It's a good thing I searched the web first before buying a Miracast dongle. Sounds like it's not yet stable for gaming.