Mhl cable fps limit? - HTC Sensation

Hi,
I have bought a mhl cable, but when it is connected to the tv, shows 24 fps limit.
Its good for watching vodeos but in games it should be 60 fps.
So what can i do
Thanks
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Buy a PS3
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I don't think the phone can handle 60fps on a big TV. I've tried GTA3 connected to a 42in TV and off course it was choppy as ****.
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phammichael said:
Buy a PS3
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I have xbox 360 lol
but i want to see my phone in 60fps without lags

TV's will only play at 24fps thorugh HDMI unless you have one of these crazily high hz ones

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TV's will only play at 24fps thorugh HDMI unless you have one of these crazily high hz ones
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In addition to which our Sensation seems to lack the horsepower to play anything via MHL truly smoothly as well. If you want to experiment for a laugh, download Electopia game/benchmark from the Market. When you start the app you will be asked if you want to run it at WVGA or full screen. Start with WVGA, then, on the next screen select 'benchmark mode'. After it finishes (about a minute) it will give you a score in cluding the average fps. Now go back and do the same full screen (it will be lower). Now go back and run both tests with the phone connected to the tv via MHL and you will see it's even lower. I get:
WVGA: 39.75 fps
960x540: 33.68 fps
WVGA connected to tv via MHL: 29.62 fps
960x540 connected to tv via MHL: 25.09 fps
Bear in mind these are averages so it's likely that frame rates are dropping substantially below this at times. In addition, in percentage terms, those framerates are a world apart. At least I can now quantify why Shadowgun and MC3 are a bit frustrating via MHL.
I'm hoping that as the newer phones come to market this year journalists will get their backsides into gear and start benchmarking these kind of factors for us ; ) For those of use that want to connect our device to a tv then control it via bluetooth keyboard and a mouse (essentially use it as a little media pc for light gaming/internet/movies/email etc), this kind of info is really important. Wish I'd known before I bought it. Not sure how well the new 720p screened devices will get on with the extra pixels AND duplicating the image to a tv...

Ouzo said:
In addition to which our Sensation seems to lack the horsepower to play anything via MHL truly smoothly as well. If you want to experiment for a laugh, download Electopia game/benchmark from the Market. When you start the app you will be asked if you want to run it at WVGA or full screen. Start with WVGA, then, on the next screen select 'benchmark mode'. After it finishes (about a minute) it will give you a score in cluding the average fps. Now go back and do the same full screen (it will be lower). Now go back and run both tests with the phone connected to the tv via MHL and you will see it's even lower. I get:
WVGA: 39.75 fps
960x540: 33.68 fps
WVGA connected to tv via MHL: 29.62 fps
960x540 connected to tv via MHL: 25.09 fps
Bear in mind these are averages so it's likely that frame rates are dropping substantially below this at times. In addition, in percentage terms, those framerates are a world apart. At least I can now quantify why Shadowgun and MC3 are a bit frustrating via MHL.
I'm hoping that as the newer phones come to market this year journalists will get their backsides into gear and start benchmarking these kind of factors for us ; ) For those of use that want to connect our device to a tv then control it via bluetooth keyboard and a mouse (essentially use it as a little media pc for light gaming/internet/movies/email etc), this kind of info is really important. Wish I'd known before I bought it. Not sure how well the new 720p screened devices will get on with the extra pixels AND duplicating the image to a tv...
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Thank u very much for good info, so there is no way to see our screen on tv with higher fps !?

iranwz said:
Thank u very much for good info, so there is no way to see our screen on tv with higher fps !?
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Based on the performance of our phone and what bonesy said above, I guess not. I guess you could try overclocking your Sensation to make it maintain 24fps and see if that helps....
Before I buy my next phone I'll try and make sure it has the power to mirror to a tv smoothly.

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HDMI Gaming

After getting my 15 foot HDMI, 5 foot HDMI cables and my Body Glove case today I've been testing everything I can throw at this phone. In the end I only noticed the cable loses connection when you really move the phone around.
Played the following for about 5-30 minutes each:
Robot Unicorn Attack
Pocket Legands
Angry Birds, Rio and Seasons
Armored Strike
9 Innings Baseball
Bejeweled 2
Cordy
Dillo Hills
Pinball Deluxe
Rocket Bunnies
Speed Forge 3
What the Doodle!?
Stupid Zombies
Tap Defense
N64oid - Nintendo 64 emulation (Works like a charm!)
Even if I feel like the G2x is not lasting as long as my HD2 with an extended battery***...this phone is godlike and just makes me want to buy a bluetooth controller to play Zelda on the big screen again!
*** Disclaimer:
Of course coming from a phone with extended battery this phone is lasting about 12 hours with HIGH use of texting, gaming at work, music, more music, downloading, e-mails, package tracking and a picture here and there.
What extended battery are you using? Where'd you find it?
mysterioustko said:
What extended battery are you using? Where'd you find it?
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It was on my HTC HD2 and I found it after searching google shopping.
But for the G2x I don't think there is a extended battery for it yet. But for those who need some extra life should get an extra battery.
Comes with a desktop charger for the extra battery so when your ready to leave the house and going to be out for 12+ hours should help.
http://www.amazon.com/Quality-Replacement-T-Mobile-Battery-Desktop/dp/B004WJASNO
Zspy1985 said:
After getting my 15 foot HDMI, 5 foot HDMI cables and my Body Glove case today I've been testing everything I can throw at this phone. In the end I only noticed the cable loses connection when you really move the phone around.
Played the following for about 5-30 minutes each:
Robot Unicorn Attack
Pocket Legands
Angry Birds, Rio and Seasons
Armored Strike
9 Innings Baseball
Bejeweled 2
Cordy
Dillo Hills
Pinball Deluxe
Rocket Bunnies
Speed Forge 3
What the Doodle!?
Stupid Zombies
Tap Defense
N64oid - Nintendo 64 emulation (Works like a charm!)
Even if I feel like the G2x is not lasting as long as my HD2 with an extended battery***...this phone is godlike and just makes me want to buy a bluetooth controller to play Zelda on the big screen again!
*** Disclaimer:
Of course coming from a phone with extended battery this phone is lasting about 12 hours with HIGH use of texting, gaming at work, music, more music, downloading, e-mails, package tracking and a picture here and there.
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N64 still skips for me. Did u change settings.
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I also just got my HDMI cable yesterday, and I gotta agree that gaming on here rocks. Just so you know, Wii remotes don't work on any variant of the T-Mobile stock ROM, you'll have to use a CM nightly.
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C0dy said:
I also just got my HDMI cable yesterday, and I gotta agree that gaming on here rocks. Just so you know, Wii remotes don't work on any variant of the T-Mobile stock ROM, you'll have to use a CM nightly.
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So one gb comes they will work?
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I also just got my hdmi cable yesterday, from amazon. I was amazed at how incredibly smooth everything is through hdmi mirroring. The tegra 2 is really showing its stuff. Quick question, is the hdmi mirroring supported on cyanogen yet? I tried the first nightly, but ended up switching back quickly due to other issues, and didn't have my hdmi cable when I was playing with it.
cbowens said:
I also just got my hdmi cable yesterday, from amazon. I was amazed at how incredibly smooth everything is through hdmi mirroring. The tegra 2 is really showing its stuff. Quick question, is the hdmi mirroring supported on cyanogen yet? I tried the first nightly, but ended up switching back quickly due to other issues, and didn't have my hdmi cable when I was playing with it.
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Latest CM7 nightly has HDMI mirroring, but it's buggy...
mapin0518 said:
Latest CM7 nightly has HDMI mirroring, but it's buggy...
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Thanks; here's hoping that'll get fixed before the first stable release.
For what it's worth...
I thought HDMI mirroring was more buggy on stock. My phone would sometimes turn off as soon as I plugged in the cable and if I rotated my phone while the cable was in it DEFINITELY did not like that and would also shut down my phone (and drain battery to 0).
I've had absolutely no issues with HDMI mirroring on CM7 (including rotation) however playback in landscape is not so great.
Overall, I'd say performance was better with stock but it was way buggier. CM HDMI is more stable but worse performance.
Just my 2 cents...
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I thought HDMI mirroring was more buggy on stock. My phone would sometimes turn off as soon as I plugged in the cable and if I rotated my phone while the cable was in it DEFINITELY did not like that and would also shut down my phone (and drain battery to 0).
I've had absolutely no issues with HDMI mirroring on CM7 (including rotation) however playback in landscape is not so great.
Overall, I'd say performance was better with stock but it was way buggier. CM HDMI is more stable but worse performance.
Just my 2 cents...
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Hmmm, thats odd; I didn't run into any of those issues during my tests. My first thought would have been it was a hardware problem, either the cable or the hdmi port on the phone...but that wouldn't really explain why your cm7 build isn't exhibiting the same problems. Maybe its similar to some of the other issues that seem to plague some G2X owners: the presence of reboots and what not seems to vary from device to device. I love my G2X and haven't had any problems, but there seems to be some quality control issues for the batch as a whole.
Out of curiosity, where did you get your hdmi cable from?
EDIT: Also, what player were you using in both stock and CM7 to test your video playback?
teleknEsis said:
I thought HDMI mirroring was more buggy on stock. My phone would sometimes turn off as soon as I plugged in the cable and if I rotated my phone while the cable was in it DEFINITELY did not like that and would also shut down my phone (and drain battery to 0).
I've had absolutely no issues with HDMI mirroring on CM7 (including rotation) however playback in landscape is not so great.
Overall, I'd say performance was better with stock but it was way buggier. CM HDMI is more stable but worse performance.
Just my 2 cents...
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I tried playing a movie on youtube and in CM7 video player using the latest nightly and it would interrupt to a black screen for a second, every 30 seconds on my HDTV (but continue playing on my phone). Flash back to stock, and this didnt happen at all.
Does anybody use a bluetooth controller that works good? If so can you guys post a link? As soon as my hdmi cable arrives I'm going to install one of those emulators and test it out!
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charlieb620 said:
So one gb comes they will work?
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From what I understand, it's an issue with LG's Bluetooth drivers, so most likely not.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY-VnXP0hAo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzP2rwaUsdA
Zeemote works great...only four buttons though. Too lazy to link for ya...just google it if you're interested.
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bdkinney said:
Zeemote works great...only four buttons though. Too lazy to link for ya...just google it if you're interested.
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With which rom?
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I don't think a stock LG rom will support the bluetooth profiles unless they add them in with the GB update.
At this time, CM based roms are the only ones that will work with bluetooth gamepads.
There was already a thread on gamepads that listed pictures and pricing.
I'ved played several emulators and games via HDMI and no problems. Phone screen has to be on though... hopefully they fix that.

[Q] Hdmi out Problems

Seem to be having HDMI out problems, I bought this phone so I can watch my movies out to a big screen, I tried it on two different TVs. At first it works, and then when I try stuff or like try to play angry birds it start flickering going back and forth from snow back to the phone, sometimes just stops working all together. Also it looks like crap, like trying to use the web or what not, especially text.
when I try to watch 720p movies i downloaded in like mkv, they play so smooth and look great on the phone, but out to the TV, most times the phone will slow completely down, and get really choppy and laggy, if you try to get the menu back or play buttons. if it does play it doesn't look like a 720p should, comparing on playing the file on my computer, it looks pixelated and doesn't play that smooth, kinda gives you motion sickness sometimes.
Does anyone else have these problems, is this a defective phone that I should return? can anyone confirm.
also just curious, I seen other people say they played the trailers that came on their phones and it looked great. Mine didn't come with any trailers on it.
Well mine came with trailers, though I didn't try looking at them on the big screen...I did, however, look at several high resolution pictures and a 1080p video that looked great on the PHONE'S display and it's like the output is the same resolution as the phone's display (800x480) and it's just stretched to fit the screen...makes it look I'm watching an old DVD...
Because angry bird are only made for phones not a 720p resolution, lol angry bird on TV haha buy Xbox or ps2 much better ;p
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The phone can not handle playback on a big screen unfortunately. The chopiness is purely due to processor lag. The hdmi out is more for presentations, not super useful
Angry Birds plays fine on my TV. As a matter of fact my nephew was playing it last night. It looks amazing on my TV. Try using an expensive HDMI cable, the cheap ones will not work. I had 2 HDMI cables and I first used the one that was like $20 and had this issue so i switched that out for the $50 cable and bam no problems. It really depends on the cable. Because of the info that's being sent thru the cable. Along with movies, I have a music video on my phone in .mp4 format in 1080p that plays perfectly, me and my friend were watching it like 20 times the other day.
Why can't i watch media hub on my tv it says it can't play on my tv when the app is running
doost650 said:
Angry Birds plays fine on my TV. As a matter of fact my nephew was playing it last night. It looks amazing on my TV. Try using a different HDMI cable, yours may be defective/may not support the current standard. I had 2 HDMI cables and both had this issue so i switched that out for a different cable and bam no problems. It really depends on the cable. Because of the info that's being sent thru the cable. Along with movies, I have a music video on my phone in .mp4 format in 1080p that plays perfectly, me and my friend were watching it like 20 times the other day.
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Fixed that for you, you just need to accept that you got ripped off!
Godhandfreedom said:
Why can't i watch media hub on my tv it says it can't play on my tv when the app is running
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Because the movies are copy protected. It a feature of the Media Hub. Samsung probably doesnt want people to pirate the movies/tv shows they sell on there.
dfxda said:
Seem to be having HDMI out problems, I bought this phone so I can watch my movies out to a big screen, I tried it on two different TVs. At first it works, and then when I try stuff or like try to play angry birds it start flickering going back and forth from snow back to the phone, sometimes just stops working all together. Also it looks like crap, like trying to use the web or what not, especially text.
when I try to watch 720p movies i downloaded in like mkv, they play so smooth and look great on the phone, but out to the TV, most times the phone will slow completely down, and get really choppy and laggy, if you try to get the menu back or play buttons. if it does play it doesn't look like a 720p should, comparing on playing the file on my computer, it looks pixelated and doesn't play that smooth, kinda gives you motion sickness sometimes.
Does anyone else have these problems, is this a defective phone that I should return? can anyone confirm.
also just curious, I seen other people say they played the trailers that came on their phones and it looked great. Mine didn't come with any trailers on it.
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Try a different player like rockplayer or I think vlc is out now too... Stock video player sucks. Also try removing stage-fright enable player = false.... See if that helps, its a line in the build.prop.

G2X as Android TV box

My G2X is currently sitting in a drawer, and I was wondering how well it would function as a dedicated set top box for my HDTV. I was wondering if anyone has tried this and has any suggestions on a good rom to use, as wells as accessories.
I was thinking it would be cool to use it as a DLNA client and possibly set up a NAS server. I would also want a keyboard and mouse for web surfing as well as a game controller for playing games. Netflix is also a no brainer. I can't see any reason why this wouldn't work just as well as those cheap android TV boxes coming out of china.
Any Advice?
This may just be my experience but I have had a lot of trouble getting a stable video from my HDMI on it. It may be the rom (EB, 4.0.4 AOSP) but I'm not so sure this phone was ever designed for that. It's possible, maybe, but I wouldn't hold your breath..
I am able to get stable HDMI output. I played some games with my G2X/P999 attached to an LCD screen via HDMI. I'm using the stock V21Y ROM.
Don't see why it wouldn't work. And with CM7.2 you can use a bluetooth mouse, too.
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Any other suggestions on ROMs? Are there any ICS ROMs that have solid 1080p output? I used the HDMI out with cyanogenmod but if I remember correctly it didnt work that smoothly.
With the announcement of full featured XBMC for android I think this could work out pretty well!
redmonke255 said:
Don't see why it wouldn't work. And with CM7.2 you can use a bluetooth mouse, too.
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I've been searching a lot trying to find a mouse keyboard setup to work for the p999. do you have any more information on how I can make that happen?
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More than certain this can be done. I've used my g2x to play Game Boy / Game Boy advance games on my 55 inch TV before with a wii remote. Played for a good 4 hours. Although it did overheat and reboot a few times... Though I'm willing to bet that was due to the fact my phone was OC at 1.4GHz and I don't think that emulator had a frame rate limit. Also I've used it to stream from my NAS using es file explorer and mx player to get the best out of the phone. For streaming I watched 4 episodes of Pokemon approx 170mb each episode in one go.
What I did notice though is that if you are going to be using it for this it will drain the battery faster than it can charge. I've never fully drained the battery while it was plugged in during my use so you are going to have to experiment a little on your own to find out how long it lasts.
I finally went out and bought a bluetooth mouse and keyboard, and I can confirm that with an app called "Blueinput" (free but adds text ass your typing unless you register it for 9.99Eur) it does work. You can hook your phone to a charger, mini hdmi to your tv, connect bt mouse and keyboard via blueinput and sit back and use the phone via bt mouse and keyboard. I went full nerd. I bought a logitech keyboard that was made for ICS and has the google buttons on the keyboard, but I'm running cm7 and they dont register in the bt test section of blue input. The mouse is a little touchy, and there is no pointer, so no ability to click the background and add widgets, but any item on the screen can be selected with the mouse and the right click is back. I don't feel like loading ICS again to test on that, but next time I do I will let you all know how it works.
I also bought the wii classic that connects with a wire to the regular wii remote so I can map even more buttons and can now play snes and probably ps1 and better (haven't tried yet). Still think the G2X out does every other phone I have played with/rooted for people.
I have just purchased a g2x specifcally to try and use as a media player i will remove the mainboard from its case and put it into a 2.5" portabld hdd case for better ventilation, put a heatsink on the cpu and wire up some usb ports for extra connectivity, should it all work ok it should be a good little media box neatly packaged into a set top box type casing.
I do have a couple concerns
I have noticed people videos of mirroring from the g2x it only goes into fullscreen when playting a game or video but the desktop displays small, can that be changed and since I have no use for the lcd I want to have the hdmi permanent only output not mirroring.
will shows some pics of it all working when done, if it fails I will pretend I simply lost interest in the project and never be heard from again.
Just a suggestion, why don't you guys try xbmc android? Only problem is how to control it.

Force Reduce Android Screen/Output (MHL) Resolution

Hey All,
Please excuse the noobity.
I'm trying to connect a Microvision Show WX+ PICO Projector to the MHL port of my Galaxy Nexus or Asus A500. I've found the appropriate cable but the Android output is locked at 720p whereas the Projector accepts a max of 480p.
Question: Is it possible, through a ROM or any other means, to force switch a) the entire device' resolution to 480 or just the MHL output, as you might with a multiple screen setup on a Desk/Laptop?
Thanks so much in advance!!!
T
No solution from me I'm afraid, just a bump! I'm interested in this because on my galaxy note everything gets really slow when using mhl. It would be great to lower the resolution to make everything a bit smoother.
Something which might also help me but not OP would be if the display was rendered only once. Since my TV says it receives a 1080p signal from the phone (and the phone screen is obviously not displaying 1080p) I must presume that although the content of each screen is identical, they are actually rendered separately.
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Miracast vs Chromecast

I just want a HDMI dongle for my tv, that I can cast my phone screen to. Mostly so that, I can use a controller and play my phone games on my tv, the phone acting like a mini-console.
-> What will perform better, chromecast or miracast/ezcast? chromecast dongle costs about twice as much, so I just want to make sure it's worth it
-> how good is the performance with either? will i be getting full framerate etc? I have tried several hdmi cable adapters and none of them seem to work for me (yes, even after plugging in power, best i could manage is choppy/flickery performance) so i'm trying to get this as a workaround
any other info i should know? phone is rooted so no worries there
my chromecast runs fine, it have a bit delay, but it's ok.
Miracast works well too.
I don't see any differences.
have you tried it while gaming? i mean some nice 3d games that are using a lot of the phone's power. for example soulcraft ii (it's free). does it affect the quality of the screen sharing?
DryEagle said:
have you tried it while gaming? i mean some nice 3d games that are using a lot of the phone's power. for example soulcraft ii (it's free). does it affect the quality of the screen sharing?
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anyone else have any info?
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anyone else have any info?
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There is a noticeable lag with the Chromecast. It is very smooth, but its about a half a second behind. I don't think it would be good for gaming unless you are playing some sort of turn based game.
I also have a LG TV with miracast support, but it is unusable. It shows one frame every 10 seconds or so.
I have miracast. It lags too...I don't think it was meant for gaming. Unless it was a turn based one. There is also a slight loss of video quality

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