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Overall, I really like the Inspire. However, one thing I noticed, was the lack of "super fine" mode for camera. It also appears to have some exposure issues, despite tweaking. Does anyone have tweaks for improving picture quality (via lowering any compression that may be present, displaying hidden modes, etc..)?
Colors seem all wonky on my camera, like over saturated or something.
Anyone else notice any blurred edges? For example, my pictures seem to be blurred near the top right of every photo. Before taking the picture it looks fine, but goes out of focus when the picture is captured. I've also heard of other people having this issue near the top left corner.
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RacerX10 said:
Colors seem all wonky on my camera, like over saturated or something.
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I turned the "saturation" setting down to -1, seemed to resolve that issue.
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Anyone else notice any blurred edges? For example, my pictures seem to be blurred near the top right of every photo. Before taking the picture it looks fine, but goes out of focus when the picture is captured. I've also heard of other people having this issue near the top left corner.
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I have not noticed that issue on mine. However, the images do seem a bit grainy, which is hard to believe, considering it is 8MP. That leads me to believe there is jpeg compression taking place.
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I have not noticed that issue on mine. However, the images do seem a bit grainy, which is hard to believe, considering it is 8MP. That leads me to believe there is jpeg compression taking place.
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Mine only seem grainy in unnatural light. Outside in sunlight this thing takes the best pictures of any device I've ever owned. Note: I'm no photographer, so "any device I've ever owned" is very limited, as is my photography expertise. I'm happy with the camera on the Inspire though
My camera works perfect.
homeslice976 said:
Mine only seem grainy in unnatural light. Outside in sunlight this thing takes the best pictures of any device I've ever owned. Note: I'm no photographer, so "any device I've ever owned" is very limited, as is my photography expertise. I'm happy with the camera on the Inspire though
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I noticed when I was indoors setting ISO manually seems to work better than letting it set automatically. Sometimes it would be way too bright, sometimes too dark.
So what is the general impression about the camera? I've read and skimmed through a half-dozen reviews. Most say the camera is good, better than others, but all I really see is a blurry mess in the example shots. They also say the video is good, but I am not seeing that either. The brightness constantly changes and quivers and the video isn't very smooth or sharp. The audio recording is also very low quality and is my biggest complaint. This is in comparison to both a Samsung Galaxy S and Samsung Wave, which have pretty much the same cameras. And no I am not bashing the phone, because I might want to get it and like the other stuff like UI, alum body, natural-looking screen, etc. but am not to thrilled with the camera from the review pics/vids.
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I turned the "saturation" setting down to -1, seemed to resolve that issue.
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Much better, thanks !
///M Class said:
I turned the "saturation" setting down to -1, seemed to resolve that issue.
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Awesome! This really helps. Thanks for sharing.
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The flash on my inspire has ugly green/teal hue. Anyone else noticed this?
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knarfl1 said:
The flash on my inspire has ugly green/teal hue. Anyone else noticed this?
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This issue seemed to resolve itself after adjusting the saturation to -1. The other option is manually adjust the white balance to florescent.
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This issue seemed to resolve itself after adjusting the saturation to -1. The other option is manually adjust the white balance to florescent.
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Or, get a replacement. much better now. Even the sales Rep agreed flash was green.
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Changing the iso when using the flash helps too. Took a bunch of pictures last week and most came out really good.
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///M Class said:
Overall, I really like the Inspire. However, one thing I noticed, was the lack of "super fine" mode for camera. It also appears to have some exposure issues, despite tweaking. Does anyone have tweaks for improving picture quality (via lowering any compression that may be present, displaying hidden modes, etc..)?
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Hi, i guess the quality of the picture will be great if you can sent the camera settings as follow: while you are on the camera mode, select menu= image adjustments= increase the sharpness to the limit, drag saturation half way down, contrast half way up, exposure half way down. by doing this, you will love your shorts.
I think my lense is kind of broken, as I see a red halo in the center of every photo I take. It's really annoying, although the saturation -1 trick improved it a little.
Does anyone experience a pixelated picture when using the stock camera in a low light setting? I find it kind of annoying. The picture during the daytime is great but as it gets darker.... doesn't do so well. Is there a fix for it? Does anyone know if the camera mod fixes this issue??
try adjusting the ISO settings in the camera app. This is mostly a limitation of the camera sensor on smart phones.
it's still pretty pixelated. I'm guessing there's not much more you can do about it since it's a hardware limitation?
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Does anyone experience a pixelated picture when using the stock camera in a low light setting? I find it kind of annoying. The picture during the daytime is great but as it gets darker.... doesn't do so well. Is there a fix for it? Does anyone know if the camera mod fixes this issue??
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can you take some picture and upload them im gonna do the same and beside i have noticed the same thing. to me it look like the screen is burning and the pixels are shining very bright which make the screen look crap and beside can you try some different camera app from market. try pudding camera the screen look way better than stock.
this picture i took around 2- 3
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Hi folks
I've spent some time today playing around with Note 3 camera and I got mixed feelings.
It is clear that when there is light, the camera gets quite nice results but, what the hell is going on in interiors/low light?
Is it possible that my note N7000 gets sharper pictures in low light than the N9005?
I really hope this is a software issue, for your good Samsung
Use a different camera app. World of difference.
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Use a different camera app. World of difference.
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Could you please recomend one?
I use to have camera ICS+ in the N7000 because the volume buttons can be used as shooter button, quality was good too
Sure. For instance, Camera ZoomFX. Indoor under fluorescent looks much better.
Ucam is another. Not bad either.
Or Procapture, or FV5.
Stock Camera is horrible. It has no options to set the ISO, meaning that in low-light it automatically picks the highest settings, which has the most noise.
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Or Procapture, or FV5.
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No experience with either. Which do you prefer and why? Thx.
That's odd. I and another owner also found the stock camera way worse than the n7000.
note 2 has more contrast and the photos don't seem washed out.
Also it focused faster.
Gonna try other apps.
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No experience with either. Which do you prefer and why? Thx.
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As a photographer, I very much like the manual options in ProCapture. I still have not found anything that can match my dslr in terms of manual setting, but that comes closest.
Fv5 also has many of the settings I'm used to. It's quicker at saving the image, Procapture always needs time to process the shot, so for multiple pictures fv5 is better.
Shotcontrol is also a decent one.
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That's great info, thanks.
Photography is a passion for me, too. I got rid of my last phone because of the camera. This one is very usable and I will be keeping my N3. I'll try both apps you suggested - already downloaded them - as soon as I can. Thanks, again!
Edit - Missed the third app you mentioned and have downloaded it now.
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Or Procapture, or FV5.
Stock Camera is horrible. It has no options to set the ISO, meaning that in low-light it automatically picks the highest settings, which has the most noise.
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That's weird. On my stock N9005, when I open the camera and hit the menu button for camera options, I have the ISO settings menu, from which I can choose Auto, 100, 200, 400, or 800.
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That's weird. On my stock N9005, when I open the camera and hit the menu button for camera options, I have the ISO settings menu, from which I can choose Auto, 100, 200, 400, or 800.
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Oh, hello, they seem to have re-added them in the newest update. Well, that's a relief!
I noticed the same problems with the camera. Even took it back to the store to be sure it wasnt defective. I got way better pics with my Galaxy s 4
Have noticed if shooting in lots light with image stabilization on there is a lot of grading noise in a ring around the edges of the shoot.
The noise is not there with stabilization off.
Anyone else notice this
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Canadoc said:
Have noticed if shooting in lots light with image stabilization on there is a lot of grading noise in a ring around the edges of the shoot.
The noise is not there with stabilization off.
Anyone else notice this
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You should only be using image stabilization if shooting in very low light without using the flash.
Which is what I was doing
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People.. firmware ?
on mj1 my camera sucked so bad indors you can't imagine, on mj2 even worst , faces all brushed
of course it is worst than n7000 .. I had one for almost 2 years besfore de mega 6.3 and the note3..
Just flash mj6 thru odin , its here on the forum , camera is corrected and better indoors than n7000
Fixed focus miss in low light
Fixed brushed look In low light
much sharper etc
Some samples in low light with smart stabilisation on off and compare to the iPhone 5 (the iPhone was focused on the darkest part of the scene to achieve a brighter picture)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9px5wcvavhz5nmt/Untitled-1.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cgxiq559k8i2mrb/Untitled-2.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/59osdv649aiy28a/Untitled-3.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9pp2mbehzt011ll/Untitled-4.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb33j8xhshr0pqh/Untitled-5.jpg
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Some samples in low light with smart stabilisation on off and compare to the iPhone 5 (the iPhone was focused on the darkest part of the scene to achieve a brighter picture)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9px5wcvavhz5nmt/Untitled-1.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cgxiq559k8i2mrb/Untitled-2.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/59osdv649aiy28a/Untitled-3.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9pp2mbehzt011ll/Untitled-4.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb33j8xhshr0pqh/Untitled-5.jpg
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What is your firmware?
MJ2, havent got the latest update yet. Dont know if it ll fix anything though.
Sorry for bringing up something that might already have been covered, but there's one thing that I haven't understood completely.
There's quite a lot of talk about the camera not really performing that well, but looking into the matter I also read that this might be more software related than a hardware problem. (Another app might do the trick?)
The reason for asking is that I am thinking about maybe replacing my Samsung Galaxy S3 with the 16GB version of the Moto G, but I'm a bit hesitant because of the camera - especially since the one in the S3 is quite good.
I don't really care that much for MP's - they never really tell the full story - but if the quality between my current S3 and the Moto G differs to much...
Any input?
Thanks in advance,
/gosa
It'll be more the sensor that software...
Anothe camera app wouldnt make a massive difference to quality of the photo tbh.
Its just one of the tradeoffs for a cheaper phone unfortunately.
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Anothe camera app wouldnt make a massive difference to quality of the photo tbh.
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The sensor is not that bad.
I compared MotoG to S3 here (left MotoG, middle RARZi, right S3):
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
and here is a comparison from stock camera to Snap Camera from Playstore, watch the details!
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-6.html#post6853774
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The sensor is not that bad.
I compared MotoG to S3 here (left MotoG, middle RARZi, right S3):
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
and here is a comparison from stock camera to Snap Camera from Playstore, watch the details!
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-6.html#post6853774
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Like I said a different app wouldnt make a huge difference.
And to me it doesnt have much of an effect from your photos imo.
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The sensor is not that bad.
I compared MotoG to S3 here (left MotoG, middle RARZi, right S3):
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
and here is a comparison from stock camera to Snap Camera from Playstore, watch the details!
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-6.html#post6853774
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I had an LG P920 and have used the Snap Camera with a significant improvement in the quality of the photos. In Moto G use the default camera app just for movies slow. For photos I use Snap Camera and I am pleased with the results.
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Like I said a different app wouldnt make a huge difference.
And to me it doesnt have much of an effect from your photos imo.
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The photos he displayed to show the difference when using stock and snapchat show a vast improvement in my opinion.
Look at the post-it note text for the biggest difference.
Obviously software can only go so far, but the stock camera app I feel is clearly doing something wrong with how it sharpens/smooths the image. I'm guessing their sharpening algorithm is assuming a much bigger resolution and using too large of a kernel size for us. So it ends up looking blurry because the blurring becomes exaggerated. Regardless, using a different camera app will help out with these things. That is, assuming they aren't doing these corrections somewhere in the kernel before it even reaches user-land.
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[..] That is, assuming they aren't doing these corrections somewhere in the kernel before it even reaches user-land.
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100% not.
I decompiled the stock camera app and switched off the Noise Reduction just to see how the sensor sees the image, look here:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-5.html#post6803183
The stock app softens the image massively and then set a bad compression level. Look at the pattern at the Gauloise package from my other post and see how the stock app filters out all small lines.
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100% not.
I decompiled the stock camera app and switched off the Noise Reduction just to see how the sensor sees the image, look here:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-5.html#post6803183
The stock app softens the image massively and then set a bad compression level. Look at the pattern at the Gauloise package from my other post and see how the stock app filters out all small lines.
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So its the app compressing them?
Im not too knowledgable on this stuff.
Could you not 'decompile' the stock and change the compression softening settings or something? If its the app
I've seen this about compression removal for Droid Maxx worth a lookl?
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/24758/motorola-razr-maxx-compression-removal
Also some ROMs have the following line in build.prop:
ro.media.dec.jpeg.memcap=2000000
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Might be worth adding and changing the value to see if there is any benefit.
Guys,
Thank you all for your inputs, it's made for some interesting reading. Especially those example pics that shaftenberg posted gave quite a bit of info.
Yesterday I ordered the 8GB version for my wife to replace my old water damaged Desire that - after over a year of running "post-swim" without any kind of problems - is dying on her... I'm confident that the change Desire - Moto G will make a huge difference in image quality for her.
I think now the plan is to compare her Moto G with my S3 for some time and then - if I feel ok with the image quality - go for the 16 GB version.
Some people might think it's a bit strange to swap out the S3 for a Moto G, but the benefits of getting something more updated with regards to OS (and more open if you compare with Samsung and Exynos) and such... the only thing that worries me is image quality.
/gosa
I find that VSCO Cam is also better than stock camera, and probably also even better than Camera Zoom FX.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vsco.cam
The one thing I've found a huge benefit of the Moto g over the n4 and s3 is that its made for one hand. I often find with phones now days I end up when sitting down using them I use my thumb and for finger to support the phone and only half wrap my hand round it to get full use of the screen. There are no such issues with this phone.
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This phone's camera is clearly not tuned well. The noise reduction is wayyyyy too high and the white balance is off.
The Moto X had similar issues and it was mostly fixed with an update. The same will probably happen with this phone, likely bundled with the Kitkat update.
I've seen camera examples from the n5 which look great but mine look grainy..any ideas what settings do people use
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Try compare the exif info.
P.s. it is not a problem of setting, it just if you know some basic photography techniques.
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sorry, i got to laugh first.. lmao!
settings could be different for every single photo.
and @DummyPLUG said it right, its about learning some basic photography skills, and knowing some basic physics about light helps. one thing is for sure though, dont just press the button. touch the screen first, where you want it focused. point and click, youll get better looking photos as well.
Enable HDR.
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Enable HDR.
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why? i refuse to use it. photos that come out of hdr do look nice, but also lose out on a lot of detail, as tbe image size is also reduced.
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it is not a problem of setting, it just if you know some basic photography techniques.
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This
simms22 said:
settings could be different for every single photo.
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MrObvious said:
Enable HDR.
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and this, where ever possible.
see, i dont agree to enable hdr whenever possible. sure, overall images seem to look better. but you lose so much detail by using it. if detail is important to you, like the detail in my photos to me, than its the worst thing to do. as i can get a better looking "hdr" images by editing the photo after, than the hdr camera can capture.
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why? i refuse to use it. photos that come out of hdr do look nice, but also lose out on a lot of detail, as tbe image size is also reduced.
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To me, HDR + gives a truer account of the actual light conditions in front of the lens and also better pictures in lower light.
My HDR pictures are bigger. Just done a low light test. 800KB vs 1.2MB
Edit, oh maybe you mean resolution?
5992704 vs 583680 in my tests. 6mpx vs 5.8 - not a lot of detail really.
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rootSU said:
To me, HDR + gives a truer account of the actual light conditions in front of the lens and also better pictures in lower light.
My HDR pictures are bigger. Just done a low light test. 800KB vs 1.2MB
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that's a 33.33% reduction in size. not counting the hdr effect which ruins the actual detail(zoom all the way in to look).
instead, id say use touch to focus whenever possible. as just pressing the button will give you an average focus over the whole image. but touch to focus will give you detail where you need it.
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that's a 30% reduction in size.
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Sorry, i though you were saying a smaller file size is a BAD thing. Im confused, are you now saying its BETTER?
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Sorry, i though you were saying a smaller file size is a BAD thing. Im confused, are you now saying its BETTER?
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wait, your saying the hdr photo is larger or smaller. to me it sounded like you said smaller.
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wait, your saying the hdr photo is larger or smaller. to me it sounded like you said smaller.
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Even though I used the word bigger?
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Even though I used the word bigger?
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the way you wrote the photo size.. but i just checked as well, pixel size is smaller in an hdr photo, not mb in the file size.
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the way you wrote the photo size.. but i just checked as well, pixel size is smaller in an hdr photo, not mb in the file size.
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To me, HDR+ looks sharper too.
I'd upload a couple of examples, but they get compressed on TT or Photobucket. Maybe G+ doesn't compress? That said, I don't like using my real name in forums so... hahah
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To me, HDR+ looks sharper too.
I'd upload a couple of examples, but they get compressed on TT or Photobucket. Maybe G+ doesn't compress? That said, I don't like using my real name in forums so... hahah
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na, g+ does as well.
i guess if you dont have much photography knowledge, then hdr+ might be good to use Lp
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na, g+ does as well.
i guess if you dont have much photography knowledge, then hdr+ might be good to use Lp
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Well HDR+ is designed to give more detail where a normal camera would lose in dark and light areas. To me the results are better on a phone where you cannot adjust the shutter speed, iso or aperture.
I think its very unfair to link the use of HDR+ to photography knowledge. Its about the result. I myself am a keen amateur photographer and understand photography principles well, but it doesn't change the fact that HDR+ gets more information on a point and shoot than without.
I guess its slightly subjective as to whether you like your photos accurate or not. But technically, HDR + is better
Edit.. For those who don't know what we're debating, here's a link
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_imaging
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Well HDR+ is designed to give more detail where a normal camera would lose in dark and light areas. To me the results are better on a phone where you cannot adjust the shutter speed, iso or aperture.
I think its very unfair to link the use of HDR+ to photography knowledge. Its about the result. I myself am a keen amateur photographer and understand photography principles well, but it doesn't change the fact that HDR+ gets more information on a point and shoot than without.
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well.. detail. hdr does make darker areas lighter, as thats why i do make many images hdr like, or faux hdr. from that point of view, sure, details get somewhat better. well, not better but you can see the details better. but on another hand, when you look at the details when you zoom in, the tiny details, they are worse. but thats just because of the nature of hdr on mobile, on taking several images and meshing them together. in my photography, those tiny details are very important, since many of my photos are macro-like, and focus on a specific point while everything else blurs. using hdr+, it tends to not catch the fine details.
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well.. detail. hdr does make darker areas lighter, as thats why i do make many images hdr like, or faux hdr. from that point of view, sure, details get somewhat better. well, not better but you can see the details better. but on another hand, when you look at the details when you zoom in, the tiny details, they are worse. but thats just because of the nature of hdr on mobile, on taking several images and meshing them together. in my photography, those tiny details are very important, since many of my photos are macro-like, and focus on a specific point while everything else blurs. using hdr+, it tends to not catch the fine details.
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Well macro is a different kettle of fish. I use a completely different set up for macro, ie not a phone
To me a phone is for snaps. I find HDR+ gives a better snap
Anyways, whatever. Use it, don't. The op has enough info to decide now
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Well macro is a different kettle of fish. I use a completely different set up for macro, ie not a phone
To me a phone is for snaps. I find HDR+ gives a better snap
Anyways, whatever. Use it, don't. The op has enough info to decide now
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or use it in certain types of shots. anyways, its a personal preference. and absolutely!
@rootSU @simms22 people never understand this.
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HDR = High Dynamic Range, multiple (doesn't matter how many) pictures taken at different exposures and put together so you get everything exposed and nothing over/under-exposed.
HDR+ = Google's random magic algorithm for scene recognition, saturation fixing and contrast fixing, done with multiple (I think 2) images. Quoting Google; “With HDR+, create vivid photos by day and sharper photos by night.”
What Google calls "HDR+" only exists on the Nexus 5.
See this image: http://images.fonearena.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/htc-one-hdr-vs-nexus-5-hdr-plus.jpg
As you can see, the HDR image doesn't have anything over/under-exposed whereas the HDR+ image has it's subject underexposed.
HDR is NOT the same as HDR+.
Edit: also have to add that "HDR+" is limited to the Google Camera. If you download a 3rd party camera app to use on the Nexus 5 and it has a "HDR mode", it'll be actual HDR, rather than what Google calls "HDR+".
I'm pretty sure the algorithm for "HDR+" is closed source but its definitely not real High Dynamic Range.
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