Sorry for bringing up something that might already have been covered, but there's one thing that I haven't understood completely.
There's quite a lot of talk about the camera not really performing that well, but looking into the matter I also read that this might be more software related than a hardware problem. (Another app might do the trick?)
The reason for asking is that I am thinking about maybe replacing my Samsung Galaxy S3 with the 16GB version of the Moto G, but I'm a bit hesitant because of the camera - especially since the one in the S3 is quite good.
I don't really care that much for MP's - they never really tell the full story - but if the quality between my current S3 and the Moto G differs to much...
Any input?
Thanks in advance,
/gosa
It'll be more the sensor that software...
Anothe camera app wouldnt make a massive difference to quality of the photo tbh.
Its just one of the tradeoffs for a cheaper phone unfortunately.
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Anothe camera app wouldnt make a massive difference to quality of the photo tbh.
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The sensor is not that bad.
I compared MotoG to S3 here (left MotoG, middle RARZi, right S3):
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
and here is a comparison from stock camera to Snap Camera from Playstore, watch the details!
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-6.html#post6853774
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The sensor is not that bad.
I compared MotoG to S3 here (left MotoG, middle RARZi, right S3):
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
and here is a comparison from stock camera to Snap Camera from Playstore, watch the details!
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-6.html#post6853774
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Like I said a different app wouldnt make a huge difference.
And to me it doesnt have much of an effect from your photos imo.
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The sensor is not that bad.
I compared MotoG to S3 here (left MotoG, middle RARZi, right S3):
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
and here is a comparison from stock camera to Snap Camera from Playstore, watch the details!
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-6.html#post6853774
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I had an LG P920 and have used the Snap Camera with a significant improvement in the quality of the photos. In Moto G use the default camera app just for movies slow. For photos I use Snap Camera and I am pleased with the results.
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Like I said a different app wouldnt make a huge difference.
And to me it doesnt have much of an effect from your photos imo.
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The photos he displayed to show the difference when using stock and snapchat show a vast improvement in my opinion.
Look at the post-it note text for the biggest difference.
Obviously software can only go so far, but the stock camera app I feel is clearly doing something wrong with how it sharpens/smooths the image. I'm guessing their sharpening algorithm is assuming a much bigger resolution and using too large of a kernel size for us. So it ends up looking blurry because the blurring becomes exaggerated. Regardless, using a different camera app will help out with these things. That is, assuming they aren't doing these corrections somewhere in the kernel before it even reaches user-land.
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[..] That is, assuming they aren't doing these corrections somewhere in the kernel before it even reaches user-land.
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100% not.
I decompiled the stock camera app and switched off the Noise Reduction just to see how the sensor sees the image, look here:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-5.html#post6803183
The stock app softens the image massively and then set a bad compression level. Look at the pattern at the Gauloise package from my other post and see how the stock app filters out all small lines.
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100% not.
I decompiled the stock camera app and switched off the Noise Reduction just to see how the sensor sees the image, look here:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-5.html#post6803183
The stock app softens the image massively and then set a bad compression level. Look at the pattern at the Gauloise package from my other post and see how the stock app filters out all small lines.
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So its the app compressing them?
Im not too knowledgable on this stuff.
Could you not 'decompile' the stock and change the compression softening settings or something? If its the app
I've seen this about compression removal for Droid Maxx worth a lookl?
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/24758/motorola-razr-maxx-compression-removal
Also some ROMs have the following line in build.prop:
ro.media.dec.jpeg.memcap=2000000
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Might be worth adding and changing the value to see if there is any benefit.
Guys,
Thank you all for your inputs, it's made for some interesting reading. Especially those example pics that shaftenberg posted gave quite a bit of info.
Yesterday I ordered the 8GB version for my wife to replace my old water damaged Desire that - after over a year of running "post-swim" without any kind of problems - is dying on her... I'm confident that the change Desire - Moto G will make a huge difference in image quality for her.
I think now the plan is to compare her Moto G with my S3 for some time and then - if I feel ok with the image quality - go for the 16 GB version.
Some people might think it's a bit strange to swap out the S3 for a Moto G, but the benefits of getting something more updated with regards to OS (and more open if you compare with Samsung and Exynos) and such... the only thing that worries me is image quality.
/gosa
I find that VSCO Cam is also better than stock camera, and probably also even better than Camera Zoom FX.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vsco.cam
The one thing I've found a huge benefit of the Moto g over the n4 and s3 is that its made for one hand. I often find with phones now days I end up when sitting down using them I use my thumb and for finger to support the phone and only half wrap my hand round it to get full use of the screen. There are no such issues with this phone.
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This phone's camera is clearly not tuned well. The noise reduction is wayyyyy too high and the white balance is off.
The Moto X had similar issues and it was mostly fixed with an update. The same will probably happen with this phone, likely bundled with the Kitkat update.
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it seems as though the vibrant's software for the camera is better by a long shot.
Out of the box, the Vibrant was producing warmer shots (see above) and actually seems quite a bit sharper; we're almost certain the sensors and optics are identical, so we have to believe this is either a compression issue or some combination of post-processing steps that the phones are taking; obviously, the Vibrant looks better, and the phones are both configurable enough to correct any white balance issues you may have.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/...ew-shootout-captivate-for-atandt-and-vibrant/
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so once someone gets the custom rom show on the road, would it be possible to get the camera app from the vibrant?
it would, but it would all depend on whatever other apps the camera app is tied to and someone to test and see if they plug and play with everything else in touchwiz
It isn't free (UK2.99), but Vignette is the best camera app I've found for android. Well worth the money over the stock app, in my opinion.
Vibrant's camera isnt better, why make colors warmer then they appear? It might be sharper though I'm not sure.
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I just think it's spotty Korean workmanship. My wife and I are on our second phones respectively due to various things, mine had an extremely blue screen (noticeably compared to the other phone) and wife had a really annoying rattle.
Hi XDA members and developers
I was thinking that the "camera problem" of the moto g maybe it's caused by a too high compression. I mean that any photo have a size of 1 MB, but on the Galaxy s advance is around 3 Mb at photo. So, anyone can mod the stock camera to make it better, for better photos?
Has it improved on kitkat does anyone know?
Does it improve with a different camera app?
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Has it improved on kitkat does anyone know?
Does it improve with a different camera app?
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No theres been threads on this nothing has changed.
As for compression theres nothing we can do, its up to Motorola.
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Hi XDA members and developers
I was thinking that the "camera problem" of the moto g maybe it's caused by a too high compression. I mean that any photo have a size of 1 MB, but on the Galaxy s advance is around 3 Mb at photo. So, anyone can mod the stock camera to make it better, for better photos?
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Why not simply replace the camera with another app?
CAMERA ICS
HD Camera
ZOOM Camera
The camera isn`t bad realy considering the camera and sensor but it will never be turned to a top camera though because of the hardware limitations.
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The camera isn`t bad realy considering the camera and sensor but it will never be turned to a top camera though because of the hardware limitations.
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hardware limitations? my 3M camera on optimus one was better than the 5M moto g camera... my gf has xperia go and her 5M camera is also way better. so i dont get it..
Mixture of hardware and software. I've read several reviews that say prost processing causes loss of detail. However this maybe due to the camera without it producing very noisy shots. In an ideal world I'd love to have an option whether or not we want to have our images processed by the software, that heavily.
Compared to the Moto X's response the camera, Moto Gs is nothing which is why I think Moto are reluctant to look into maybe toning it down a little.
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gee2012 said:
The camera isn`t bad realy considering the camera and sensor but it will never be turned to a top camera though because of the hardware limitations.
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You mean software limitations imposed by Motorola, likely to try to keep people from filling up an 8GB Moto G with minimally compressed pictures.
They dont want the Moto G to be to good, or Moto X and Nexus 5 sales will drop too much. Its up to the devs to mod the camera to make it beter.
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ManBearrrPig said:
hardware limitations? my 3M camera on optimus one was better than the 5M moto g camera... my gf has xperia go and her 5M camera is also way better. so i dont get it..
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Megapixel count has almost nothing to do with image quality. In fact, the average lens performs better on lower resolution sensors if their other features like size, light sensitivity etc. are the same. When it comes to image quality, the three major bottlenecks are the lens, the sensor quality and the imaging algorithm. My impression is that the Moto G has an average camera hardware with bad software.
BTW setting the aspect ratio from 16:10 to 4:3 improved the image quality on my device, I guess the software does not just crop the picture but it does some extra filtering too.
Ad i had wrote on che first post, i'm asking if someone can mod the camera app to make it better with less compression and maybe other modifications
Inviato dal mio Super Motorola Moto G!!
debaj said:
My impression is that the Moto G has an average camera hardware with bad software.
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This is exactly what is happening. Motorola either messed up or made the camera bad on purpose to try and save battery/space when taking pictures or to not make the Moto G as good as the Moto X.
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Ad i had wrote on che first post, i'm asking if someone can mod the camera app to make it better with less compression and maybe other modifications
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The AOSP camera worked well for me, if you don't mind losing the HDR function and the one finger zoom you should try it. Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602054
debaj said:
The AOSP camera worked well for me, if you don't mind losing the HDR function and the one finger zoom you should try it. Check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2602054
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Thanks, but i haven't root And i don't want it :/ and if maybe i install the aosp camera as normal apk? After i can "downgrade" the camera app to the oroginal Motorola?
Inviato dal mio Super Motorola Moto G!!
Edit: i think that moto g camera is a little better then the aosp camera; i have tested a little comparing the same photo taked with moto And aosp camera ._.
CADude said:
This is exactly what is happening. Motorola either messed up or made the camera bad on purpose to try and save battery/space when taking pictures or to not make the Moto G as good as the Moto X.
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Lol what kinda silly conspiracies is that lol...
Especially the last one :/
Im very sure its neither.
Its Motorolas software processing the photo in order to reduce noise
As GsmArena indicated
"Unfortunately the overly agressive noise reduction results in eradicating a fair amount of fine detail and an oil painting effect is visible whenever you shoot grass, foliage or similar.
King p1n said:
Lol what kinda silly conspiracies is that lol...
Especially the last one :/
Im very sure its neither.
Its Motorolas software processing the photo in order to reduce noise
As GsmArena indicated
"Unfortunately the overly agressive noise reduction results in eradicating a fair amount of fine detail and an oil painting effect is visible whenever you shoot grass, foliage or similar.
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There is a method to make the noise reduction less aggressive?
The biggest issue with the camera from pixel-peeping is how strongly it post-processes, is there an app that overrides this (shoot RAW)? I know Google had confirmed plans to add RAW support in Android back in November or so, hadn't read anything more recent. It would also have been nice to be able to set resolution in the native app but you can't -- using Camera Zoom FX app atm instead of the default.
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There is a method to make the noise reduction less aggressive?
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Nope there's no way to get past it, seems only Motorola can change this.
Changing bitRate of 720p to 20000000 and image quality to 99% in media_profiles.xml did the job. Obviously file sizes are now much bigger, but clearly can see the difference. :good:
Also forgot to mention audio bitRate can be improved from 128000 to 288000. If you not sure how to do this changes better leave it unchanged. You could brick your phone so probably the best is to do a backup of your android or at least of media_profiles.xml file.
eddvys said:
Changing bitRate of 720p to 20000000 and image quality to 99% in media_profiles.xml did the job. Obviously file sizes are now much bigger, but clearly can see the difference. :good:
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Can you apply this mod to the camera apk?
Inviato dal mio Super Motorola Moto G!!
Quite disappointed. Tried two roms, CM and xnph300 camera. With/without "Clear image". Photos are washed out compared to Nexus 5.
Attached are two photos of a mousepad with a woman's picture on it. One is "Clear image", opo. One is Nexus 5.
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Here is a series of three landscapes. LTR: iPhone 5, Nexus 5, OPO (Clear Image)
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From p. 4 of this thread
There's a thread on IUNI rom over in the Android Dev thread. Short takes
- Everyone loves the UI and camera
- Got to flash a CM recovery to get it to load
- Got to use ColorOS gapps - especially to get english to work. (link in thread, not on OP)
- Got to get the latest beta (link in the thread, not on OP) to get play store to work
- Battery usage poor - although, as usual one or two say not so.
Guess I'll hold off for a while - don't have time to flail around with it rt. now.
It's not washed out. It's white balance problem in my opinion.
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Yep. Still...
I agree... The camera is extremely mediocre. I have tried different apps and settings and the pictures come out dull and kinda grainy.
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This photo came straight from the camera, just minor cropping to the background. Exif data shows it came from
the OnePlus. This was taken with the program Camera FV-5, in macro mode.
I disagree completely. The camera is just fine if you know how to use it.
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timmaaa said:
I disagree completely. The camera is just fine if you know how to use it.
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It may be "fine", but it sux.
Oh, "how to use it". Hmm. Leme think. Point at subject. Hit the button.
That what you mean? That's what I did with the samples I posted. You'll note that the OPO sux.
If what you mean by "how to use it" is, ah, flail around, set "smart screen" with Focus mode = "macro" - or similar, I'll go with "Sux".
Sheesh.
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I could be wrong. Never happened before, but always a first time. Perhaps you'd deign to share your considerable expertise with Android cameras in the form of just one or two pointers for us hoi-polloi
p51d007 said:
This photo came straight from the camera, just minor cropping to the background. Exif data shows it came from
the OnePlus. This was taken with the program Camera FV-5, in macro mode.
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Seems you are confused. "Straight from the camera" it did not come - as you say in the third sentence. Yes, keeping things straight for three sentences is a pain...
For the record, and to explicitly say what's implicit in my original post, iPhone and Nexus 5 don't require "pro" cameras or special settings to take decent pics.
ibilln said:
It may be "fine", but it sux.
Oh, "how to use it". Hmm. Leme think. Point at subject. Hit the button.
That what you mean? That's what I did with the samples I posted. You'll note that the OPO sux.
If what you mean by "how to use it" is, ah, flail around, set "smart screen" with Focus mode = "macro" - or similar, I'll go with "Sux".
Sheesh.
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You just made my point for me.
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The camera does not "sux". It's in fact a very capable camera. It's no Galaxy S5, but it does the job, and then some. I take 98% of my pictures in HDR so maybe that has something to do with it. But I'm pretty content with it regardless; it could be much, much worse.
Can you try ColorOS? I also had a Nexus 5 and found the camera on the Opo a bit grainy, over-exposed etc using CM11s
I can assure you that I enjoy the camera a lot more now.
lukesan said:
Can you try ColorOS? I also had a Nexus 5 and found the camera on the Opo a bit grainy, over-exposed etc using CM11s
I can assure you that I enjoy the camera a lot more now.
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I want to run "standard" roms such as Mahdi, etc. I'll try to get the APK and maybe break down and try the rom itself. Thanks for the suggestion. Don't want the perfect camera, just one that is not so dramatically mediocre.
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Looks like getting the APK is hard. Sigh.
Use HDR
After much flailing, I see that using the HDR setting will get acceptable pics. Not great yet, but acceptable. To me.
ibilln said:
Seems you are confused. "Straight from the camera" it did not come - as you say in the third sentence. Yes, keeping things straight for three sentences is a pain...
For the record, and to explicitly say what's implicit in my original post, iPhone and Nexus 5 don't require "pro" cameras or special settings to take decent pics.
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Well, excuse me for not being 1000% truthful from your mind. I never use the default camera app, but, I have used the camera app that comes with the one, and it does quite well. Perhaps later, I will take one, using the default camera app to show you that it does a good job, and, as with most errors with phone cameras, it is the operator who does not know how to compose, focus and HOLD IT STILL.
Please forgive me for not being 1000% accurate in my statement. My point was this was from the camera, without any editing or photoshopping in any way. {sarcasm off}
ibilln said:
After much flailing, I see that using the HDR setting will get acceptable pics. Not great yet, but acceptable. To me.
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Wut... the HDR produces terrible colors and exaggerated HDR photos that belong in reddit.com/r/****tyhdr
Anyone know what toggling each profile with a filled white circle does (HDR, Clear Image, Night, Mono, Sepia and so on)? Is it using a combination of all enabled profiles?
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Wut... the HDR produces terrible colors and exaggerated HDR photos that belong in reddit.com/r/****tyhdr
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"for me"...
I reserve the right to change my mind.
Salty Wagyu said:
Anyone know what toggling each profile with a filled white circle does (HDR, Clear Image, Night, Mono, Sepia and so on)? Is it using a combination of all enabled profiles?
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It allows you to quickly access the toggled modes by sliding up or down on the screen.
I got both phones and OPO camera is way better than the Nexus 5
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"for me"...
I reserve the right to change my mind.
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it seems that ColorOS Camera seems to make a HUGE difference compared to CM in terms of quality. (it was reported and review this one on Find 7 witch has same optics, that w/ CM camera seems way worst than on ColorOS)
so my suggestion is to try the whole ColorOS ROM (stable or beta) or Iuni ROM (this one has Oppo's Camera app ) and then you'll see the full power of this hardware piece
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto G5 Plus come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
More of marketing gimmick. Good hardware but worst software. Chinese developers don't know how to code. Lenovo killed the Moto brand
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The camera is poor. I have no Idea why is there so many people defending the camera on this device, but it's nothing special.
Mrkblo said:
The camera is poor. I have no Idea why is there so many people defending the camera on this device, but it's nothing special.
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It is advisable for you to stop posting on this forum coz you don't own a moto g5 plus which is clearly visible in your profile.
Camera is the main highly of the phone. ?
What are you talking about? I'm writing this from my Moto G5 plus. Just because you disagree with me it doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to post here. In my opinion the camera is nothing special, even my old galaxy s4 and Lumia 730 are able to get some better snaps in good lighting conditions.
Developer Anindya said:
It is advisable for you to stop posting on this forum coz you don't own a moto g5 plus which is clearly visible in your profile.
Camera is the main highly of the phone.
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Low light is bad compared to 2016 flagships. I just tested with my S7 and it kills the G5 Plus. If camera is most important to you, I recommend getting a used S7 for about the same price. Good lighting is fine.
I really like the G5 plus camera, compared to my old phones (Xperia z3 compact, moto g4 plus, nexus 4 and others) I think it's a really good camera for its price range. And I don't even tried to unlock the boot loader and use the hdr+ Google camera, thats looks even better on snaps.
The camera is okay. I take lots of pictures with it, they look fine.
When I really care about the picture looking nice, if I'm with other people, if those people have a modern flagship phone, I'll ask them to take the picture. And those pictures look significantly better.
Google's hdr+ really helps in low light too. Stock rom, using the 32-bit apk found in a thread here with camera2 API enabled via build.prop.
This is more light than I could see with my own eyes, alley building lights in the distance only. Forget S7, this rivals low light on my $2500 Sony A7s!
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Low light is bad compared to 2016 flagships. I just tested with my S7 and it kills the G5 Plus. If camera is most important to you, I recommend getting a used S7 for about the same price. Good lighting is fine.
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Where can you get a used s7 for same price.???
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Where can you get a used s7 for same price.???
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Ebay, Craigslist, and Swappa if you're in the USA.
Coming from moto e 1st gen which i bought for Rs 7000 in 2014. This phone has a pretty good camera at this price point considering that i bought it for Rs 10000. And i love the professional mode in this camera. You just have to know how to use the camera for good shots. It would be great to have Raw support in stock camera. But i love it.
Some samples.
I personally think moto did an awful work with this camera, even my 2015 nexus 5 beats it anytime its pitted against it.
pradsngh523 said:
I personally think moto did an awful work with this camera, even my 2015 nexus 5 beats it anytime its pitted against it.
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Moto did screw it up with their processing of the image. But turn it off by applying the chromatix mod and extend your DR with the Google Camera from defcomg/savitar, and the pics coming off of this are actually pretty amazing.
Dishe said:
Moto did screw it up with their processing of the image. But turn it off by applying the chromatix mod and extend your DR with the Google Camera from defcomg/savitar, and the pics coming off of this are actually pretty amazing.
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Actually im waiting for moto to provide oreo stock ota. hopefully they will also release stable 64bit sources also as oreo only support 32 bit kernel sources as of now. If not i gues that is the final choice i have. Untill that I'm struck on good ol nexus 5. low light images on nexus 5 are just sweet despite having f2.4 camera.
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Moto did screw it up with their processing of the image. But turn it off by applying the chromatix mod and extend your DR with the Google Camera from defcomg/savitar, and the pics coming off of this are actually pretty amazing.
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Where can I download the Google camera app compatible with the moto g5 plus??
jmindset said:
Where can I download the Google camera app compatible with the moto g5 plus??
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Search and ye shall find. Everything you need to have and know should be here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-fix-g5-plus-camera-mods-tools-t3722844
Dishe said:
Search and ye shall find. Everything you need to have and know should be here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-fix-g5-plus-camera-mods-tools-t3722844
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Thanks dude
Any of you tried the new cam update on the G5Plus? I think it's great! I have the S7 edge and took pictures with both phones of the same thing. Then as they uploaded to Google photos, I had a hard time distinguish which is which without looking at the info. Moto G5Plus in low light. Ignore the mess, I'm before moving. I did not selectively focused just point and shoot. Look at the sharpness on the books and the glass bunny. These pics were made near midnight with only floor lamps farther away.
Glad they've been improving the stock shooter! I noticed an update, but for some reason the new app is having trouble with video recording so I might go back. Google Camera running on here has been blowing everything else out of the water, but those shots are very respectable.
Hey, All...
I'm on the newest 9.5.7 on my 12/256 OP7P that I ordered direct from OP.
Although the updates are making the camera better, I still can't wrap my mind around how there can be such a detail and focus issue between photos and apps on the SAME device. To me, that means that it's software that is the issue, and not actually hardware quality...
Here's a comparison of two photos I took with the same conditions in the same distance in the same lighting. One is from the G cam app on my OnePlus 7 Pro and the other is from the stock camera on my OnePlus 7 Pro How can there be such a difference?
Needless to say, the photo that looks better and has much more detail is from the G cam app
To be totally transparent, I also have a Pixel 3XL that I use
Thanks for helping me understand!
Yay for black cats! I have one, too.
Anyhoo, if you're trying to understand the difference in quality between Google's software and OP's, I don't think it's fair. Google's software for their camera is the best on the market. Even the likes of Samsung haven't beaten them yet (for still images and night shots). Personally, I'm happy with the stock camera performance on this 7 Pro because I don't really demand the bleeding edge camera performance on a phone. Not to suggest that you require that, most of us just want usable pics to share online with each other.
Pixel 3a is $400 and has the second best camera (behind the regular Pixel 3) on the market. For some folks, the camera is the number one reason for choosing their phone. For me, it's like number 4 on my list. I didn't like the 6T performance because even for regular shots that I shared online, it was hot garbage. But they've made enough improvement to it on this 7 Pro to make day to day living and photo shooting fair enough. When I need just that much more quality (especially at low light), I just use the Gcam.
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
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I wonder how good the actual hardware is on the pixel 3xl camera compared to the OP7P then, lol.
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In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
stuff said:
There is a lot of software voodoo going on to improve pictures. It isn't just capture the image, and there it is. Lots of processing goes on to take the raw data and convert it into an image.
Google has some smart people working there to have their code to some real good work.
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stuff said:
In my opinion, I don't think it's any better or worse tbh. The capability of the camera application is crucial.
Google put all their effort into taking the best "auto" photos it can conjure up. That's why there doesn't exist the ability to manually change it.
But that camera app is also designed specifically for that HW camera (whichever hw model Pixel it is).
Google just knows what they are doing in that dept.
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So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
KillerQ said:
So, this means, as soon as someone comes up with an amazing G cam port for our phone, we'll be sitting pretty just like everyone else.
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Don't take my word 100% on it, but I believe that is the case.