I've been able to redirect audio to the phone's earpiece and speaker using the SoundAbout app, but can't use the Samsung's dock audio options: speaker and "line out" outputs.
Have read that USB audio used to work with Samsung docks in v4.1.1 and stopped working in v4.1.2.
Where can I get a stable v4.1.1 custom ROM with GAPPS?
Samsung Desktop Dock for Infuse 4G (Amazon)
kikato said:
My Samsung home dock only outputs USB audio via its integrated speaker. SoundAbout seems to be working redirecting audio to different audio outputs except the dock's "Line Out" port.
Have read that it used to work in v4.1.1 and stopped working in v4.1.2.
Where can I get a stable v4.1.1 custom ROM with GAPPS?
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so you want a rom that will force your Samsung home dock to play sound on the integrated speaker?
The dock has an integrated speaker and a 3.5mm "line out" connector, and after checking again, none work.
I want to use the "line out" option of the Samsung dock.
Samsung Desktop Dock for Infuse 4G (Youtube)
kikato said:
The dock has an integrated speaker and a 3.5mm "line out" connector, and after checking again, none work.
I want to use the "line out" option of the Samsung dock.
Samsung Desktop Dock for Infuse 4G
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ohhhhh okay...........well I'm on 4.4.4 CarbonRom and my brother has a stereo with usb dock and aux cable and it wont work with the dock but it will work with the aux cable but somehow sounds better when i have both plugged in...........and have you tried just using the dock or aux cable separately? or together? and the android version might have something to do with it.....but i can't check for you since i don't have a Samsung dock :/
edit: just saw the video nvm what i said......why not just connect your charger and use the aux cable to play sound without using the dock?
What do you mean by aux cable?
The other option is to connect to the headphone connector, but the "line out" must have a cleaner sound for amplification.
And you don't get the headphone's cable sticking out from the top of the phone when the phone is on the dock/desk.
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What do you mean by aux cable?
The other option is to connect to the headphone connector, but the "line out" must have a cleaner sound for amplification.
And you don't get the headphone's cable sticking out from the top of the phone when the phone is on the dock/desk.
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I think he means one and the same (Aux cable of the sound system in the headphone jack and not the Dock's line out jack).
Not an optimal solution, I know, but given that if a 4.1.1 ROM was available, you wouldn't want it, as it is affected by the nasty Heartbleed bug. (4.1.2 and up is okay).
But maybe you could try older, that is, Entropy's CM9 (4.0.4). The ICS/JB versions were developed so fast that there was too little time to squash the bugs, and CM9 is supposedly a prime example of that, but four your needs, it's worth a shot.
The little booklet included with the dock says:
DOWNLOADING OPERATING SOFTWARE
for your Infuse 4G Desktop Dock or Car Dock
3) Type Samsung Car Home or Samsung Desk Home in the search box
But Google Play says the app is not compatible with the Infuse 4G (maybe it doesn't like KitKat in the Infuse 4G). Even tried Market Helper to bypass compatibility check and still couldn't download the app.
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The little booklet included with the dock says:
DOWNLOADING OPERATING SOFTWARE
for your Infuse 4G Desktop Dock or Car Dock
3) Type Samsung Car Home or Samsung Desk Home in the search box
But Google Play says the app is not compatible with the Infuse 4G (maybe it doesn't like KitKat in the Infuse 4G). Even tried Market Helper to bypass compatibility check and still couldn't download the app.
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have you tired just looking for the apk on Google then putting it on your sdcard then installing it from there?
Tried APK Downloader webpage in Firefox (APK Downloader), didn't work.
Maybe the Chrome extension version works better, but is it safe to use user/password/ID with this extension? Probably not worse than Market Helper.
Found v2.3 for v2.3.7 (sounds fishy) here ..
Samsung Desk Home 2.3
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Tried APK Downloader webpage in Firefox (APK Downloader), didn't work.
Maybe the Chrome extension version works better, but is it safe to use user/password/ID with this extension? Probably not worse than Market Helper.
Found v2.3 for v2.3.7 (sounds fishy) here ..
Samsung Desk Home 2.3
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you can try it......just click install and it will tell you if it is the actual app not just a "fakename.apk"
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Hi
I've heard that there is an official car dock coming which will switch the phone into car dock mode. Does anyone have any idea how this might be done? Someone on one of the other forums tried shorting some pins in the usb connector but without success.
Could it be through magnets like some other phones? Does anyone have any ideas about how the phone is signalled which mode it should be in?
I'm using an app to change modes at the moment, but it would be lovely if I could do it all in hardware.
James
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I've heard that there is an official car dock coming which will switch the phone into car dock mode. Does anyone have any idea how this might be done? Someone on one of the other forums tried shorting some pins in the usb connector but without success.
Could it be through magnets like some other phones? Does anyone have any ideas about how the phone is signalled which mode it should be in?
I'm using an app to change modes at the moment, but it would be lovely if I could do it all in hardware.
James
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can you tell me what app you use to change modes please? i've been trying to find it for ages now
I'm still not sure about how the modes are recognized yet, although I know it's done within the USB somehow, there are no magnetic switches in the Desire.
And for the apps, there are a few to choose from.
Nexus - CarHome.apk
EVO- NavPanel.apk
DeskClock.apk (there are a few different ones) for "HomeDock"
And there is an app to launch the 2 different apps manually; DockSimulator.apk.
You should be able to find all of the above in this forum, DockSimulator can be found in the market.
It's really frustating...
I've had a play around again with the data lines, but no matter what I do with them all I seem to be able to do is trigger PC mode. Some people have said that by wiggling the micro usb they can sometimes trigger the car mode. COuld it be something to do with the 5th pin on the micro usb connector?
I guess we may just have to wait until the official dock launches, and then try to reverse engineer it. I don't really like the look of it, as I don't want a suction mount and I'm very happy with the fixed Brodit cradle.
Using the dock simulator is a good second best, especially in conjunction with the free 'Car Dock' app available from the market. It seems to switch the phone into a mode where it never locks and the backlight is permanently on. It also switches on speakerphone mode by default, although I use a bluetooth kit instead.
Any further thoughts on where to look?
James
If You use a bluetooth kit I'm sure You can figure out the way to launch car dock mode once paired to Your bluetooth car device. I know for sure, that You can simulate car dock when the phone is charging using Locale.
As an update, I've found a great app on the market called 'Bluedock' which does exactly this. It triggers car dock mode when connected to a bluetooth headset (you can specify exactly which of the paired devices, so you it only triggers when in the car), and optionally when connected to power. Mine is set up so when it's in the charging cradle, and connected to the handsfree kit, it switches into car dock mode.
Well worth $1! The author also has written a free car dock replacement app also on the market which I'd also really recommend.
Now listed on Clove.co.uk
I haven't checked whether anyone's commented on it already but the official car dock is now listed on Clove
It does state that the NaviPanel is automatically activated when the phone is docked ...for my money it's dead expensive though.
Still listed as pre order on clove, i am guessing it will come out after the next desire update which will have the navigation software built in.
Wouldn't mind a price drop when it is officially released!
pure speculation tho!
Has anybdy tried this yet?
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/...index.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=accessories
Just wondering how it worked. Too bad it's not HDMI.
I tried it, worked for me. You have to enable it first in the TV-Out settings, and the yellow wasn't really the video one on my cable.
yea, there was a video somewhere showing it working. Just buy a $3 3.5" to RCA cable from ebay or radioshack
Seached on Google and Amazon has one for $1.29
http://www.amazon.com/DCR-TRV50E-DCR-TRV900-DCR-TRV950-DCR-VX1000-DCR-VX2000E/dp/B003V8UB4I
Going to give it a try.
Worked fine for me, no problems at all! Quality was only OK but I'll try it again with a different video and see if that helps.
Is there a way to go from micro USB to HDMI or the jack to HDMI?
For the usb, no it has to have the wardware. For the jack, whats the point? The jack can only output standard definition video and going through hdmi would be pointless. You can use WiFi with DLNA to windows media center to play your HD.
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For the usb, no it has to have the wardware. For the jack, whats the point? The jack can only output standard definition video and going through hdmi would be pointless. You can use WiFi with DLNA to windows media center to play your HD.
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except that I can't get DNLA to work Maybe I'll try another app that does the same as allshare
the video out works well, I'm glad that it doesn't use HDMI as I use it in my truck to my DVD/NAV system. It does seem that whenever I've connected the included ear buds to the phone I've had to go into settings and re-enable video out. No it's not high definition, but the quality is more than adequate for my purposes.
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the video out works well, I'm glad that it doesn't use HDMI as I use it in my truck to my DVD/NAV system. It does seem that whenever I've connected the included ear buds to the phone I've had to go into settings and re-enable video out. No it's not high definition, but the quality is more than adequate for my purposes.
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I plan on doing this exact same thing this weekend. I have the Alpine IVA-W205, and I think it would be cooler to have audio and video instead of just audio. Plus, I can actually see the navigation directions since I don't have Nav installed.
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I plan on doing this exact same thing this weekend. I have the Alpine IVA-W205, and I think it would be cooler to have audio and video instead of just audio. Plus, I can actually see the navigation directions since I don't have Nav installed.
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Mine is a kenwood DDX-8019, and I have the external NAV
A couple things to keep in mind if you are going to use the phone as a NAV device in your car ...
1. Get long enough cables that you can set your phone where it has the clearest view of the sky possible. I set mine in the tray molded into my dash. Which leads to ...
2. If you use the included micro USB cable with a power adapter you should be fine, but the door that hides the connection on the phone may be too small for many aftermarket cables. I have one that is fine at home, but doesn't provide a secure enough connection for me to trust it on the road.
3. Maps in my area are not 100% accurate, the parking lot where I work used to be part of a highway that has been re-routed, however the map does not reflect this. I have also found that on the 2 times I've tested it on my route to and from work that it will not give a route that includes HOV lanes. (there may be a setting for this)
4. Download the app and enable the turn by turn voice ... but do not rely on it, until you've had some time to get comfortable with it. I've found during my testing that voice prompting comes a bit later than I like at highway speeds, though in and around town it was fine. I don't know if your DVD reciever will allow you to, but I can display the video from the phone and listen to audio from any other source I have available.
5. The only way I have been able to take a call while using the video out function on the phone was to disconnect the 3.5mm jack, it seems that the audio from a phone call is muted, as is the microphone. I guess if it did work there would be no reason for anyone with an aux video connection to buy a bluetooth reciever.
I do not intend to use this as my primary NAV in my own vehicle because my GARMIN reciever is purpose built for it and is far more precise/has more options. BUT ... I will not be renting anymore NAV units from enterprise when I have to travel.
Note: none of this works for the Car Dock in Android 2.3.3 Gingerbread (JVB, JVK, or JVO), due to a Samsung kernel bug/feature. It should work for the Home Dock. Car Dock output is fixed in Android 2.3.4 Gingerbread (JVP or later).
This will not work with any Cyanogenmod, Teamhacksung or other open source ROMs for any version of Android, including ICS, as it calls a closed-source Samsung module that will not be present in these ROMs.
Samsung's docks have external audio outputs that are connected through the phone's USB port. These outputs don't work unless you use the latest versions of Samsung's Desk Home and Car Home apps (kindly provided by an XDA user here for those that can't download them from the market).
Unfortunately these apps are not the greatest, especially Samsung Car Home. I wanted to use Google Car Home, so I did a little reverse engineering and discovered that Samsung's apps use this Android Intent to switch the external audio output on and off:
name: com.sec.android.intent.action.INTERNAL_SPEAKER
extra: state
extra value (Integer):
0 = off (sound through phone's internal speaker)
1 = on (sound through dock external port).
You can use this in a couple of ways:
1. Through Tasker: create a profile with context Docked and an Intent action as follows:
Action: com.sec.android.intent.action.INTERNAL_SPEAKER
Cat: none
Extra: state:1
Target: Broadcast Receiver
Or, if you don't want to use Tasker:
2. I created a tiny app (attached) that triggers this intent when the phone is docked and undocked. I've only tested it with the car dock but it should work with the home dock as well. It doesn't create a background service or use any memory normally, it just gets launched and switches the external audio output on whenever the phone is plugged in to the dock.
Update: v1.1 now has separate settings for home and car docks.
Known versions where Car Dock output doesn't work:
* Android 2.1 (all versions)
* Android 2.2 prior to JPX kernel
* Android 2.3.3 (works in 2.3.4 JVP)
Ringtone and caller voice audio does not go through the external port, only music player output.
I've only tested it on the I9000 but it should work with all the Galaxy S variants, at least all the ones that work with Samsung's Dock apps anyway.
Warning: There is a nasty "crack" when the audio output is connected so you may want to have your stereo's volume turned right down.
If you find this app useful please donate to the CyanogenMod developers: go to this thread and click the link under "SUPPORT US".
Tasker is on my ToDo-List, thanks for the advise, how to use it.
But for now I only want to use the samsung car dock with the google car home app. And your app should be the only thing, I need for that, right?
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Tasker is on my ToDo-List, thanks for the advise, how to use it.
But for now I only want to use the samsung car dock with the google car home app. And your app should be the only thing, I need for that, right?
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Yes, you just need to have the app installed. It doesn't create a background service or use any memory normally, it just gets launched and switches the external audio socket on whenever the phone is plugged in to the dock.
Tested it. Works great. Big Thank!
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Hallo beano, thanks for you help, it's ok your apk but the sound is no good it's no bass and low volume.
Please have you a solution?
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Hallo beano, thanks for you help, it's ok your apk but the sound is no good it's no bass and low volume.
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It sounds OK to me, what ROM are you using? I notice the Captivate had this problem and it was fixed by a ROM upgrade (here). Also make sure the volume is up on the phone as it does affect the external output.
Hallo Beano, my rom is js2 itv, now look your solution.
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Hallo Beano, my rom is js2 itv, now look your solution.
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All the switching and EQ changes are done by the firmware, the app just tells it to do the switch, so I would try changing the firmware. I am using DocRom v9.6.6_XWJS5 with speedmod-k13c-500hz kernel from romkitchen.org right now. The bass is definitely OK with this configuration, I am listening to Mr Oizo through it at the moment.
Hello! I was hoping that someone finds the solution to this problem and finally get you!
But unfortunately, your mod did not work for me .... I have the original Samsung car dock
sold in America (one for the vibrant) and when I plug in the galaxy S to cardock putting in jack 3.5" my in-ear headphones, the audio continues to come out through external speaker,
just noise (hiss) from the headphone out and left with much in the distance as you feel
a very low signal (mp3 music).
With your application things have not changed for me.... I've never done a test in the car with the
audio cable, but it should be the same with headphones or not?
HELP!!!
Ah, I forgot..... I use a the Darky 9.2 rom with supercurio (voodoo) kernel and installed also the google car home app.
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Ah, I forgot..... I use a the Darky 9.2 rom with supercurio (voodoo) kernel
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I believe that's the problem, the voodoo sound changes don't support the car dock audio output. Try a different ROM.
Nicely done little app there...works like a charm on my Galaxy S 4G.
Thanks heaps mate. Ive been needing this for ages and i bet others have been too.
I use alarm clock plus when docked but had to make sure the Samsung app was running in the background to get audio out of the dock. Not now.
Thanks
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Any chance you could do a little mod?
Be awesome if we could choose a checkbox for home and car. Eg i use USB audio at the desk but not in the car.
Thanks in advance.
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@TheBeano
Thank you for your time effort in doing this.
I'm having trouble finding the Google Car Home app - it's not in the Android Market (for me anyway*) but is in AppBrain. However, if I try to download it via the bar-code link it re-directs to the Android Market & gives a not found message I've downloaded the Samsung apps you linked to and they both work for me, but would like the Google one too.
Is there any chance someone could point me in the direction of another link?
EDIT: I now see that GCH isn't available for many people & have found a link in the apps section of Robot Briefs
Off now to hack a micro usb lead to make the Samsung Car Home app auto-start + your solution via Tasker
*My phone is unlocked but has VodaPhone branded firmware (something I plan to change) & I'm on Froyo 2.2.1 - not sure if the VodaPhone branding is why I can't find Google Car Home
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Any chance you could do a little mod?
Be awesome if we could choose a checkbox for home and car. Eg i use USB audio at the desk but not in the car.
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OK I will see what I can do.
If people haven't said this yet, you're awesome! Thanks for this it was driving me insane!
Hello guys!first of all TheBeano great job dude.your app it's great.i use it with my galaxy s and car dock.it'a great because now with your app i can output my music direct to car speaker with 3.5 jack cable (dock to car aux).but when i receive a call it's turn to speakers mode.i want to output my voice call to 3.5 jack too, to have a nice car kit.any ideeas how to enable external output voice call to earphones .thx
How about adding an options to turn on bluetooth when car-docked and wifi when desk-docked ?
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@hms666 for this, thy to download from android markert Car Dock Home v3, Custom Car Home or other application and set this features from Setting Menu.when you'll connect the phone gps,wifi special icons will be enabled
I'm still in searching for an aplication that let me to speak from my docked phone using handsfree with 3.5 jack; default it's on built in speakers when phone it's conected in car dock and if disable the speakers the cal run normaly but if i connect the jack no sound there. With the phone no conected in car dock I can make a call with earspeakers.
L.E. I have:
firmware 2.2.1
baseband version I9000XXJPY
kernel version 2.6.32.9
FROYO.XWJS5
I think its important not to make this app do more than simply toggle USB audio output.
There are heaps of other apps to handle the other docked features.
Alarm clock plus
Car dock v3
Etc
All that's needed is to be able to select on/off for each type of dock mode. Car or desk.
Maybe a toggle widget for each??
I recently purchased a car that has a USB interface for the radio. My wife's Iphone fully integrates with it, of course, and via the radio's interface but the Samsung only mounts as a connected drive.
I have read other thread where people were able to force their Samsung into car dock mode by modifying a USB cable. Is there anyway to just do that in software?
you misunderstand what car mode is.
Good luck! I switched back to my iPhone for this reason alone. I listen to a lot of podcasts and I couldn't get this to work via the USB interface and I don't have bluetooth on my head unit. I can't seem to get the newest update to see if that works either. Would love to know if someone has a solution that doesn't require making your own cable.
yo sleze..what model car if i may ask?
i made my own auxiliary input for my car(i know its not a big feat) with an old dsl filter a soldering gun and some resistors and capacitors.. i might be interested in creating a usb interface for my car and then maybe i can give you some insight .. big maybe
well you will never get the headunit to command the phone, android simply doesn't support anything like that. but you can get audio over USB which is triggered by shorting a couple pins through a resistor. ill have to look up that thread but there may already be a dongle or cable out there to do this. it may not be say "android carmode" but if you find the name of the USB standard that they use to trigger it you can find the appropriate cable or dongle.
isnt there a usb headset available that can stop/start music and next track functionality ..if so you could (in theory) make a usb interface that would allow the head unit or in my case steering wheel control to work similarly?
no it wont command the phone. the framework and apps don't have an interface for that. plus the headunit would need special drivers if the phone had that capability. the issue with android is too many manufacturers do things different so unless google comes out with that on a nexus and tells maunfacturers the way it needs to be implimented I don't see any hope.
there might be a way to echo the commands through adb if you have a computer in your car. but I guess you'd have to know how the music app works for that.
we All know apple has the accessories market down pretty good. even though some older accessories don't work with the newest hardware. that's the one thing apple is good for, a wide accessory market.
now if you have a Bluetooth controler and it uses the right protocol to work with thw samaung bluetooth stack then you might be able to map keys to certain functions with an app or simple configuration file editing. but as far as USB goes I don't think android is designed to host USB input devices. there is limited otg usb support on certain special galaxy s and nexus 1 and nexus s kernels but nothing native.
maybe some 3rd party root app could eventually be developed but I haven't heard of one yet.
besides all that, who knows if the head unit will know to go into audio over USB mode in the first place, even if you get the phone in that mode, will the headunit be looking for USB storage and an iPhone interface only? was it designed to accept USB audio other than an iPod interface?
well with my car BMW mad a usb interface for ipod/iphone.. i hate mac so scratch that.. i also have a usb interface(i can control radio/nav functions via carputer) that is designed to work with I-BUS (intelligent input bus) which is what some BMW's used for audio/nav integration. some newer models actually come with a usb input that was designed to work with most media players..so i thought maybe with some time/frustration/rum..i might be able to make it work..
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well with my car BMW mad a usb interface for ipod/iphone.. i hate mac so scratch that.. i also have a usb interface(i can control radio/nav functions via carputer) that is designed to work with I-BUS (intelligent input bus) which is what some BMW's used for audio/nav integration. some newer models actually come with a usb input that was designed to work with most media players..so i thought maybe with some time/frustration/rum..i might be able to make it work..
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It still to my understanding that on BMW iDrive system will have full integration with iOS. We had a 2010 5 series at home with all the bell and whistles on it, and even then it would only display song names. With my iPod we got full library options, podcast too. Android will only be able to be used as a mounted devices.
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I used to have an iPhone and installed this kit http://usaspec.com/product.php?ProductID=18. After switching to android I just use a 2.5mm to RCA cable to plug in to the same unit. Not worried too much about integrating with car controls - I also use a phone mount. Does your head unit have any AUX IN connectivity? Maybe on the rear? If so just play audio through the headphone jack. There's always the lighter socket RF adapter option too, but audio quality with those things can be lame.
Samsung-SGH-I997 Infused 2.3.3
yeah the headphone amp on the infuse has pretty good fidelity too. the headphone Jack might not be as convenient as a single USB that also charges the phone but I'd you want to use the playlists and 3rd party apps like Pandora or Google music its the best way. audio over USB needs the dock or special cable to trigger but I don't know which headunits will support that.
So Verizon's car dock for the S3 allows you to send the audio out through the micro USB port, so you only need one cable connected to the dock instead of two. However, the phone defaults to having the audio still come out the internal speaker or headphone jack -- you have to change it via a setting option in the stock rom that the AOSP-based roms don't have.
Is there any way back-door way to get to toggle that, or should I stick with stock-based roms if I want to use the car dock?
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So Verizon's car dock for the S3 allows you to send the audio out through the micro USB port, so you only need one cable connected to the dock instead of two. However, the phone defaults to having the audio still come out the internal speaker or headphone jack -- you have to change it via a setting option in the stock rom that the AOSP-based roms don't have.
Is there any way back-door way to get to toggle that, or should I stick with stock-based roms if I want to use the car dock?
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tasker.
it really is the answer to everything. just make it switch the audio when you plug in the dock.