Hi
I've heard that there is an official car dock coming which will switch the phone into car dock mode. Does anyone have any idea how this might be done? Someone on one of the other forums tried shorting some pins in the usb connector but without success.
Could it be through magnets like some other phones? Does anyone have any ideas about how the phone is signalled which mode it should be in?
I'm using an app to change modes at the moment, but it would be lovely if I could do it all in hardware.
James
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Hi
I've heard that there is an official car dock coming which will switch the phone into car dock mode. Does anyone have any idea how this might be done? Someone on one of the other forums tried shorting some pins in the usb connector but without success.
Could it be through magnets like some other phones? Does anyone have any ideas about how the phone is signalled which mode it should be in?
I'm using an app to change modes at the moment, but it would be lovely if I could do it all in hardware.
James
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can you tell me what app you use to change modes please? i've been trying to find it for ages now
I'm still not sure about how the modes are recognized yet, although I know it's done within the USB somehow, there are no magnetic switches in the Desire.
And for the apps, there are a few to choose from.
Nexus - CarHome.apk
EVO- NavPanel.apk
DeskClock.apk (there are a few different ones) for "HomeDock"
And there is an app to launch the 2 different apps manually; DockSimulator.apk.
You should be able to find all of the above in this forum, DockSimulator can be found in the market.
It's really frustating...
I've had a play around again with the data lines, but no matter what I do with them all I seem to be able to do is trigger PC mode. Some people have said that by wiggling the micro usb they can sometimes trigger the car mode. COuld it be something to do with the 5th pin on the micro usb connector?
I guess we may just have to wait until the official dock launches, and then try to reverse engineer it. I don't really like the look of it, as I don't want a suction mount and I'm very happy with the fixed Brodit cradle.
Using the dock simulator is a good second best, especially in conjunction with the free 'Car Dock' app available from the market. It seems to switch the phone into a mode where it never locks and the backlight is permanently on. It also switches on speakerphone mode by default, although I use a bluetooth kit instead.
Any further thoughts on where to look?
James
If You use a bluetooth kit I'm sure You can figure out the way to launch car dock mode once paired to Your bluetooth car device. I know for sure, that You can simulate car dock when the phone is charging using Locale.
As an update, I've found a great app on the market called 'Bluedock' which does exactly this. It triggers car dock mode when connected to a bluetooth headset (you can specify exactly which of the paired devices, so you it only triggers when in the car), and optionally when connected to power. Mine is set up so when it's in the charging cradle, and connected to the handsfree kit, it switches into car dock mode.
Well worth $1! The author also has written a free car dock replacement app also on the market which I'd also really recommend.
Now listed on Clove.co.uk
I haven't checked whether anyone's commented on it already but the official car dock is now listed on Clove
It does state that the NaviPanel is automatically activated when the phone is docked ...for my money it's dead expensive though.
Still listed as pre order on clove, i am guessing it will come out after the next desire update which will have the navigation software built in.
Wouldn't mind a price drop when it is officially released!
pure speculation tho!
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Is anyone else struggling with the car dock and the speakerphone fuction not being on?
I keep setting it to remeber my settings and to have both music and phone going through the dock but when I get back in the car it only has music checked so when I answer a call it doesn't use the bluetooth to the dock
Any ideas on how to get this to work everytime? Could it be something I loaded into the phone? I have been deleting all my programs to see if that helps but nothing yet.
I am unrooted normal os...
A little sporadic for me too. Although for the most part it works. What do you mean when you say "when I get back in the car"? Do you mean you:
1) Get in your car, start car and drive off, all the time with the N1 never leaving the dock.
2) Get in your car, start car, place phone it car dock...
3) Get in your car, place phone it car dock, start car....
I know it sounds pedantic but I suspect the method you use can effect how things end up. Especially considering how the power to the Car Dock usually is interrupted during ENG start. Furthermore I am not sure if the phone can or does sense that it has been placed in the car dock if the actual docking happens before you turn the IGN on. This is only speculative though.
So what I tend to do is method 2. I start my car first, to ensure power is going to the cradle during docking AND wont be interrupted. Then place the phone into the cradle. This seems to work all the time for me resulting in phone audio connecting.
Also for testing, you will have probably noticed the little BT notification it the top margin grows ears >BT< when it the phone is connected to something via BT. Unfortunately it does not differentiate between phone or media audio though. So you will have the same indication there for phone or media or both connections being active. To test your cradle placement technique is working reliably, disable the media audio pairing to the car dock for a couple of days. Then every time you dock the phone in the cradle the BT with ears appearing will confirm you successfully have phone audio connected.
there's an app car dock speakerphone that automatically turns the phone to speakerphone when in the car dock
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there's an app car dock speakerphone that automatically turns the phone to speakerphone when in the car dock
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That app would be no good for this problem. The Nexus One is not meant to be in Speakerphone mode when in the genuine google car dock. It is meant to be in BT phone audio mode. It is the car dock itself that needs to do the speakerphone bit with its inbuilt mic and speakers.
I have my dock connected to uninterupted power so it works even when the engine is off, starting, running.
I'll play with at what point I put it in for fun but I don't think that will matter.
I just hate it when I don't do it and someone calls and I have to call them back or scamble to rip the phone off the dock. Hopefully 2.2 will give us a sideways menu/phone/contacts list as well ;-)
Hi. I wanted a cheap solution for mounting my (soon to be replaced) HTC Touch Diamond in my car with the fewest cables possible (I need to mention here that I don't want to use a car mounter and a car charger...the whole idea is to just slip the phone in when you enter the car. I also found the beautiful solutions from brodit or carcomm or adapt but these are a lot more expensive).
So I found this desktop charger (photo downstairs) at 20$ on ebay that I intend to glue somewhere in my car. All good ...
BUT, I was wondering if it would be possible to use a third-party software (if such exists) or to modify some registry entries so that when I connect my phone to the charger, it would automatically modify the phone answering options and a phone call could be answered by pressing any hard key (like the up-down volume keys on the side) or at least switch to that existing option when the phone auto-answers after a set period of time (0-120 sec.). These should be disabled after the phone is disconnected!
Also, in order to use the above-mentioned features, after the phone is answered it should automatically switch to speaker mode.
So...what do you guys think...is this science-fiction ???
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Handsfree
you can plug it into a car charger and then pair the phone with one of those new solar powered bluetooth handsfree kits that you attach to your sun visor. EBAY!
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you can plug it into a car charger and then pair the phone with one of those new solar powered bluetooth handsfree kits that you attach to your sun visor. EBAY!
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ya...I guess that this is the only option.
tks!
Hello all,
While I can find a car dock that gets detected as such by the Desire (or I can build one myself), I struggle to find a desk dock that gets detected by the Desire.
By detected, I mean that an application like Tasker or Locale gets notified it's on the desk dock and then can react to it.
Does anyone know if that exists? Or if it can be done by some special wiring of the ID pin on the Micro USB plug?
Regards
Olivier
Well, I can't answer your question but I managed to get past it with an app called bluedock. It forces car mode when paired to a specific device (like handsfree) via BT.
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I recently purchased a car that has a USB interface for the radio. My wife's Iphone fully integrates with it, of course, and via the radio's interface but the Samsung only mounts as a connected drive.
I have read other thread where people were able to force their Samsung into car dock mode by modifying a USB cable. Is there anyway to just do that in software?
you misunderstand what car mode is.
Good luck! I switched back to my iPhone for this reason alone. I listen to a lot of podcasts and I couldn't get this to work via the USB interface and I don't have bluetooth on my head unit. I can't seem to get the newest update to see if that works either. Would love to know if someone has a solution that doesn't require making your own cable.
yo sleze..what model car if i may ask?
i made my own auxiliary input for my car(i know its not a big feat) with an old dsl filter a soldering gun and some resistors and capacitors.. i might be interested in creating a usb interface for my car and then maybe i can give you some insight .. big maybe
well you will never get the headunit to command the phone, android simply doesn't support anything like that. but you can get audio over USB which is triggered by shorting a couple pins through a resistor. ill have to look up that thread but there may already be a dongle or cable out there to do this. it may not be say "android carmode" but if you find the name of the USB standard that they use to trigger it you can find the appropriate cable or dongle.
isnt there a usb headset available that can stop/start music and next track functionality ..if so you could (in theory) make a usb interface that would allow the head unit or in my case steering wheel control to work similarly?
no it wont command the phone. the framework and apps don't have an interface for that. plus the headunit would need special drivers if the phone had that capability. the issue with android is too many manufacturers do things different so unless google comes out with that on a nexus and tells maunfacturers the way it needs to be implimented I don't see any hope.
there might be a way to echo the commands through adb if you have a computer in your car. but I guess you'd have to know how the music app works for that.
we All know apple has the accessories market down pretty good. even though some older accessories don't work with the newest hardware. that's the one thing apple is good for, a wide accessory market.
now if you have a Bluetooth controler and it uses the right protocol to work with thw samaung bluetooth stack then you might be able to map keys to certain functions with an app or simple configuration file editing. but as far as USB goes I don't think android is designed to host USB input devices. there is limited otg usb support on certain special galaxy s and nexus 1 and nexus s kernels but nothing native.
maybe some 3rd party root app could eventually be developed but I haven't heard of one yet.
besides all that, who knows if the head unit will know to go into audio over USB mode in the first place, even if you get the phone in that mode, will the headunit be looking for USB storage and an iPhone interface only? was it designed to accept USB audio other than an iPod interface?
well with my car BMW mad a usb interface for ipod/iphone.. i hate mac so scratch that.. i also have a usb interface(i can control radio/nav functions via carputer) that is designed to work with I-BUS (intelligent input bus) which is what some BMW's used for audio/nav integration. some newer models actually come with a usb input that was designed to work with most media players..so i thought maybe with some time/frustration/rum..i might be able to make it work..
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well with my car BMW mad a usb interface for ipod/iphone.. i hate mac so scratch that.. i also have a usb interface(i can control radio/nav functions via carputer) that is designed to work with I-BUS (intelligent input bus) which is what some BMW's used for audio/nav integration. some newer models actually come with a usb input that was designed to work with most media players..so i thought maybe with some time/frustration/rum..i might be able to make it work..
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It still to my understanding that on BMW iDrive system will have full integration with iOS. We had a 2010 5 series at home with all the bell and whistles on it, and even then it would only display song names. With my iPod we got full library options, podcast too. Android will only be able to be used as a mounted devices.
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I used to have an iPhone and installed this kit http://usaspec.com/product.php?ProductID=18. After switching to android I just use a 2.5mm to RCA cable to plug in to the same unit. Not worried too much about integrating with car controls - I also use a phone mount. Does your head unit have any AUX IN connectivity? Maybe on the rear? If so just play audio through the headphone jack. There's always the lighter socket RF adapter option too, but audio quality with those things can be lame.
Samsung-SGH-I997 Infused 2.3.3
yeah the headphone amp on the infuse has pretty good fidelity too. the headphone Jack might not be as convenient as a single USB that also charges the phone but I'd you want to use the playlists and 3rd party apps like Pandora or Google music its the best way. audio over USB needs the dock or special cable to trigger but I don't know which headunits will support that.
Are there any aftermarket USB to micro-USB cables with the shorted 4/5 pins that will activate the S4 and put it into car mode?
And are there any Y-cables with the shorted 5-pin micro-USB cable to activate car mode, AND output sound from the S4's micro-USB to a line out?
Basically the same cable that's sold with the iBolt? I'm just looking to buy the cable and not the entire dock/cable.
Okay I found this cable after reading a similar thread under the Note II subforum.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-Charger...ader_Chargers_Sync_Cables&hash=item53f0a73387
Has anyone tried this for the S4 stock kernal yet?
Hmm seems iBolt sells it's own cable also.
http://www.iboltshop.com/iBOLT-charging-aux-out-Samsung-DockMode/dp/B009PN6APM
Hi,
this is the cable you're looking for:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/261278306020?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
when connected, switch S4 to Dock Mode, even if not connected to a power source.
I use in my car, in conjunction with Tasker to automate cardock mode.
Bye
Marco
marcolino7 said:
Hi,
this is the cable you're looking for:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/261278306020?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
when connected, switch S4 to Dock Mode, even if not connected to a power source.
I use in my car, in conjunction with Tasker to automate cardock mode.
Bye
Marco
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Does the cable put the S4 into car mode? I think there's a difference between car mode and dock mode right? A lot of the car dock programs like iBolt's own app can do certain things when it's in car mode (and not dock mode). I can turn on Dock Mode via settings or drop down notification menu, but there's no way to turn on Car Mode. Funny thing is, the CarHome app turns on Car Mode when it launches even without a cable.
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Does the cable put the S4 into car mode? I think there's a difference between car mode and dock mode right? A lot of the car dock programs like iBolt's own app can do certain things when it's in car mode (and not dock mode). I can turn on Dock Mode via settings or drop down notification menu, but there's no way to turn on Car Mode. Funny thing is, the CarHome app turns on Car Mode when it launches even without a cable.
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Hi,
connecting the cable, your phone will go in Dock Mode, and I setup stock option of the Phone to do Nothing when dock cable is connected.
Then I setup Tasker, to detect when phone go in Dock Mode. With Secure Settings and Tasker I can put phone in Car Mode. Please note that Samsung's Car Mode, is not Android Native Cardock, so you need to workaround this.
Due this limitation i cannot use a Dock on My desk. This Because my phone will go in car mode when connected to a dock.
You can workaround this, if you have a Bluetooth Radio on the car.
With Tasker you can Detect Dock Cable and turn on Bluetooth, and trigge car mode when your car hands free will be connected.
Marco
So I ordered that USB cable from eBay and it works very well! It automatically puts the phone into Dock Mode when plugged in.
I have the phone set to launch CarHome Ultra when it goes into Dock Mode, and CarHome Ultra actually turns on Car Mode automatically when it launches. It can also be set to turn on the phone's Drive Mode if you want, and it turns on Bluetooth, and turns off WiFi also.
So now I just plug the phone into the USB charger, it launches CarHome Ultra automatically, turns on Car Mode and Bluetooth which then pairs with my car's bluetooth. I even have the home button working so that it goes back to CarHome Ultra when pressing the home button (using Xposed framework with EnableCarDock module on stock, rooted odexed Sprint S4).
Too bad my car's bluetooth is older and does not have the media playing profile so I can't stream the phone's sound via bluetooth. I'd either have to use the headphone out to the car's auxillary (works great but bluetooth phone can't be used when the headphone jack is in use - stupid Samsung!), or buy another bluetooth to auxillary device just for music/sound streaming, or buy iBolt's Y-cable (which many people seem to report poor sound quality or lots of noise).
The S2 Car Dock doesn't work with the S4
For the folks out there wondering whether an old original Samsung Galaxy S2 (i9100) car dock will work with the S4, assuming one could somehow shoehorn the S4 into it: Nope, It doesn't work. The S4 doesn't enter "Car Mode" as one would expect.
I didn't actually use a shoe horn - I took apart my old Galaxy S2 Car Dock and plugged the phone into the base once I had it separated from the holder.
I figure that Samsung either disabled the mode on the S4 or they changed the resistor value in the S4 so that it is different from the S2.
... or my S2 car dock is dead (unlikely).
It is frustrating that Samsung hasn't released a "proper" Car Dock for the S4 yet, like the kind they had for the S2. The one they do sell is a rip-off and a PITA to use with it's separate "charger" and "holder". There are a few vendors out there with "active" car docks for the S4, but I haven't tried any yet.
The S4 kernel was not configured with Car Dock mode enabled. Most cables have a 635k resistor for car dock mode and won't work on the S4. Only home dock mode is enabled and needs a 320k resistor (values might be different).