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how to UN-root?

Well, I just realized that I jumped into flashing my G1 and getting root access before I was ready/before it was necessary. So now I want to go back to RC33 official firmware, but now since i'm rooted, the official RC33 update.zip file won't work. So i now have a rooted RC29 official firmware, how do I unroot and get back up to RC33?

ogwilson said:
Well, I just realized that I jumped into flashing my G1 and getting root access before I was ready/before it was necessary. So now I want to go back to RC33 official firmware, but now since i'm rooted, the official RC33 update.zip file won't work. So i now have a rooted RC29 official firmware, how do I unroot and get back up to RC33?
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Have you heard of the word search?Do some work then being lazy.

Funny. I searched google, came across 2 threads of this very same nature filled with people telling us "lazy folks" to google and search. I also searched the forums directly, same threads and no other threads I could find related to this. And on google, I tried multiple search terms and phrases and noone had a definitive answer, if at all.
So please stop saying "search and stop being lazy" and just help, because you don't know if we all have tried to search or not. Perhaps if you help someone, we can actually come up fruitful in our search results.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=g1+android+unroot
first entry

here are those threads in question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478856
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478873
and i couldn't simply reply to the threads because the mods were so quick to close them. Seems like everyone here has something against helping people restore to factory than upgrade to custom.

sputnik99 said:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=g1+android+unroot
first entry
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Well, seeing as how I already stated that I did indeed try to google using multiple search terms and phrases, then you might assume I already came across that result. I did indeed come across that result and I've already tried that method. If you would actually read instead of being so quick to judge my ability to find information, upon trying to reinstall paid apps and manually updating to RC33, it failed, meaning that the phone is somehow still rooted and that I'm not sure what to do at this point. I'm stuck at what looks to be like the official RC29 with no way to manually update and I cannot get my paid apps off of the market still (nor are they showing up).
Hell, I'm not even sure if this pertains to the fact that the phone was rooted or not, but it certainly isn't what happened before I rooted (where I was able to successfully update to RC33 and download paid apps from the market as well as view them)
Now please, read that and see that I have tried all that I can from the little information that is out there. Don't think that I don't appreciate the dev community here, but you tend to only care and only help when it comes to flashing phones, not restoring them.

why bother
it doesnt make a darn bit of difference, it just taking out crap that may in the future stop you from doing somthing you want to do, the phone doesn't work any differently, rooted or un rooted, I just can't think of a reason why somebody would WANT to go back, this is probably the cause of the resistance you feel, not a conspiracy to keep rooted phones, just that way...ROOTED
I'd say just don't bother and don't go typing in commands like a madman, and everything will be OK.
it seems that JF is dedicated to continue his work on the test signed updates, why do somthing that makes no difference? Just be lazy, or spend that time reading up on common linux commands.
bhang

bhang said:
it doesnt make a darn bit of difference, it just taking out crap that may in the future stop you from doing somthing you want to do, the phone doesn't work any differently, rooted or un rooted, I just can't think of a reason why somebody would WANT to go back, this is probably the cause of the resistance you feel, not a conspiracy to keep rooted phones, just that way...ROOTED
I'd say just don't bother and don't go typing in commands like a madman, and everything will be OK.
it seems that JF is dedicated to continue his work on the test signed updates, why do somthing that makes no difference? Just be lazy, or spend that time reading up on common linux commands.
bhang
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its not that at all man. i cant even get my paid apps back. i bought the apps because i really liked them and used them on a daily basis, so i dont want to just give them up just so i can say my phone is rooted. Thanks for the reassurance though,but until i can do soemthing really useful with root access (installing other OSs) thenim sticking to official unmodified and updated firmware

paid apps and rom flashes/upgrades
im not sure you will get your paid apps back, but little is known about how the paid apps work.
they may be keyed to imei, but it doesn't seem so or you wouldn't have had a problem, my theory is that there is no security ie: 1 guy pays and anybody can use the copy of the app he paid for, I dunno and I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT PIRACY.
I am just theorizing on how your paid apps will or will not follow your phone after flashes.
it should just keep a list of what you d/l'd attached to your gmail login, I like to see more talk about how the apps are secured, NOT ABOUT HOW TO CIRCUMVENT the security, but how the apps are tied to the buyer/phone/rom installed.
I swapped apps from one g1 to another via astro and the sd card but they were all free, it just so happened to be the day the paid apps debut.
no piracy talk, just any facts you may have as to the above questions
bhang

Is it OK to Freeze...

..voice dialer and voice search?
Really new at Androids and hate to get rid of the wrong program.

Yes but why would you? They dont drain any battery if not used.

regP said:
Yes but why would you? They dont drain any battery if not used.
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Voice dialer always runs. Takes about 20mb of ram.

Go ahead and freeze it then. Though unless you're doing very intensive stuff on your phone it wont slow you down.

regP said:
Go ahead and freeze it then. Though unless you're doing very intensive stuff on your phone it wont slow you down.
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Also, on stock ROM (nandroid), i generally freeze rather then delete the bloatware, as it may allow OTA updates (would probably have to un-root and possibly restore stock recovery also though).

gaww said:
Also, on stock ROM (nandroid), i generally freeze rather then delete the bloatware, as it may allow OTA updates (would probably have to un-root and possibly restore stock recovery also though).
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Right. Definitely no deleting anything on my phone. Just freezing anything I don't use/need.
Gonna freeze both of the voice programs since I never use them.

maciek82 said:
Right. Definitely no deleting anything on my phone. Just freezing anything I don't use/need.
Gonna freeze both of the voice programs since I never use them.
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Google puts out the worst voice dialer i have ever tried to use. my 4 year old BB pearl is ma be 20 time better with respect to voice recognition.
I have gone to a 3rp party app which worked pretty good on froyo, but keeps on trying to talk to me on GB. Let it send a bug report and hopefully they can fix it.
But definitely freeze the Google crap.

gaww said:
Google puts out the worst voice dialer i have ever tried to use. my 4 year old BB pearl is ma be 20 time better with respect to voice recognition.
I have gone to a 3rp party app which worked pretty good on froyo, but keeps on trying to talk to me on GB. Let it send a bug report and hopefully they can fix it.
But definitely freeze the Google crap.
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Thanks. Just froze and everything is still good.
One more question. Google backup transport. It's always running. I do not use google backup. Is it safe to freeze?

maciek82 said:
Thanks. Just froze and everything is still good.
One more question. Google backup transport. It's always running. I do not use google backup. Is it safe to freeze?
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not sure - so I would say not in a good idea unless you are (I don't) - especially as it is a system app.

gaww said:
Also, on stock ROM (nandroid), i generally freeze rather then delete the bloatware, as it may allow OTA updates (would probably have to un-root and possibly restore stock recovery also though).
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yup you have to go back to stock and unroot for ota updates so freeze vs deleting doesn't matter. though instead of going through all that hassle its easier to just wait for someone to post the rooted version of any given update that way you can just flash it. or even on better.. wait for someone to de-odex and remove bloat so when you flash you're already bloat free

Noob Question.. Life After Rooting

Life after Rooting....
Just now took the plunge and rooted by new TF700 infinity.. Got Super User's Rights.. Loaded Root Checker and Titanium Backup. So, what bloatware is safe to delete? I know some apps/programs are tied to the ROM, like My Library and a few other apps that are "Red Flagged" by Titanium Backup, which makes me pause before trying to delete them. What bloatware/apps are safe to remove? Are there any tweaks that I can do to a "Rooted Only" table to increase performance or help extend battery life Or do I have to unlocked to realize any real/significant difference in performance??
Thanking you beforehand for your patience and advice to a newbie :fingers-crossed:

life after rooting is CWM and custom Roms

Blackwolf10 said:
life after rooting is CWM and custom Roms
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Not with a locked bootloader.

milesdavis said:
Life after Rooting....
Just now took the plunge and rooted by new TF700 infinity.. Got Super User's Rights.. Loaded Root Checker and Titanium Backup. So, what bloatware is safe to delete? I know some apps/programs are tied to the ROM, like My Library and a few other apps that are "Red Flagged" by Titanium Backup, which makes me pause before trying to delete them. What bloatware/apps are safe to remove? Are there any tweaks that I can do to a "Rooted Only" table to increase performance or help extend battery life Or do I have to unlocked to realize any real/significant difference in performance??
Thanking you beforehand for your patience and advice to a newbie :fingers-crossed:
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Trouble with the stock rom is - if you want to get future Asus updates to this tablet, you have to have a lot of the bloat installed before you update, or it will fail.
My advice: Do not uninstall anything with TiBu without making a backup first. Keep this backup in a safe place so that you can restore it before a system update.
Yes, the red entries are system apps - proceed with caution. I believe TiBu flags anything red if installed in \system. However, My Library and other Asus apps are were installed in \system instead of \data (where your other apps live) so that you, the user cannot uninstall them. They should be safe to remove.
My strategy would be to a) backup anything you want to get rid of, then b) freeze it for a few days and see if it has unintended consequences, then c) uninstall
To improve your browser you can implement Browser 2RAM. If you are on 4.2 B2R doesn't work as an app anymore. It has to run as a script, which is a little more involved to implement.
Check out elfaure's thread on B2R here on XDA
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD

berndblb said:
Trouble with the stock rom is - if you want to get future Asus updates to this tablet, you have to have a lot of the bloat installed before you update, or it will fail.
My advice: Do not uninstall anything with TiBu without making a backup first. Keep this backup in a safe place so that you can restore it before a system update.
Yes, the red entries are system apps - proceed with caution. I believe TiBu flags anything red if installed in \system. However, My Library and other Asus apps are were installed in \system instead of \data (where your other apps live) so that you, the user cannot uninstall them. They should be safe to remove.
My strategy would be to a) backup anything you want to get rid of, then b) freeze it for a few days and see if it has unintended consequences, then c) uninstall
To improve your browser you can implement Browser 2RAM. If you are on 4.2 B2R doesn't work as an app anymore. It has to run as a script, which is a little more involved to implement.
Check out elfaure's thread on B2R here on XDA
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk HD
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Thanks to everyone for the replies..
So, I'm guessing that there are no apparent advantages to a Root Only tablet. Unlocking is the only way to go. May as well leave it As Is unless you're going to go all the way....

Well you can freeze apps, uninstall apps, move frequent apps to the systems folder. All this can be done, and at least the good part is if you remove apps you might reduce some ram usage and might not lag as bad.
Also you can install Greenify, which you can tell certain apps to not run in the background unless you have it open. Again saves ran usage.
Really the best thing to do is unlock the boot loader and run over to cromi-x of cwm.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using xda app-developers app

Deathman20 said:
Well you can freeze apps, uninstall apps, move frequent apps to the systems folder. All this can be done, and at least the good part is if you remove apps you might reduce some ram usage and might not lag as bad.
Also you can install Greenify, which you can tell certain apps to not run in the background unless you have it open. Again saves ran usage.
Really the best thing to do is unlock the boot loader and run over to cromi-x of cwm.
Sent from my DROID RAZR using xda app-developers app
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I actually read about Greenify a while ago but forgot about it. This served as a great reminder to read a little more, and maybe try it out. A sincere thanks goes out to you, Deathman20...
PS: Especially handy on our phones, since the 700 has that handy double battery. Today my wife's 'new' phone is coming, a Samsung Galaxy S3. LOL! We're falling behind in the phone department.
EDIT/PPS: Not to hijack the thread, but I stumbled onto the Xposed framework again, too. Life has been good today so far!

MartyHulskemper said:
I actually read about Greenify a while ago but forgot about it. This served as a great reminder to read a little more, and maybe try it out. A sincere thanks goes out to you, Deathman20...
PS: Especially handy on our phones, since the 700 has that handy double battery. Today my wife's 'new' phone is coming, a Samsung Galaxy S3. LOL! We're falling behind in the phone department.
EDIT/PPS: Not to hijack the thread, but I stumbled onto the Xposed framework again, too. Life has been good today so far!
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INTERESTING! Had never heard about Xposed Framework, but information on it and especially the mods seems to be scattered among several device forums.
This is very tempting for users who do not want to unlock the bootloader.
Now, only question is: Can you safely try this on the TF700?? Have you?
I am sorely tempted to try this on my old Droid 4. There's no really good custom rom out there for it (they all seem to break some crucial function). I'm getting a used D4 today which I bought on eBay to replace my phone (speaker croaked 6 weeks after warranty expired). Now if I had the time...

berndblb said:
INTERESTING! Had never heard about Xposed Framework, but information on it and especially the mods seems to be scattered among several device forums.
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Yeah, if only there was a single thread with all information bundled.
This is very tempting for users who do not want to unlock the bootloader.
Now, only question is: Can you safely try this on the TF700?? Have you?
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Yup, have tried it earlier today. Nothing broken, who knows if it works with all modules available; it did work with Greenify's module.
I am sorely tempted to try this on my old Droid 4. There's no really good custom rom out there for it (they all seem to break some crucial function). I'm getting a used D4 today which I bought on eBay to replace my phone (speaker croaked 6 weeks after warranty expired). Now if I had the time...
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milesdavis said:
Life after Rooting....
Just now took the plunge and rooted by new TF700 infinity.. Got Super User's Rights.. Loaded Root Checker and Titanium Backup. So, what bloatware is safe to delete? I know some apps/programs are tied to the ROM, like My Library and a few other apps that are "Red Flagged" by Titanium Backup, which makes me pause before trying to delete them. What bloatware/apps are safe to remove? Are there any tweaks that I can do to a "Rooted Only" table to increase performance or help extend battery life Or do I have to unlocked to realize any real/significant difference in performance??
Thanking you beforehand for your patience and advice to a newbie :fingers-crossed:
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With cromi-x it just starts,be sure of that

milesdavis said:
Life after Rooting....
Just now took the plunge and rooted by new TF700 infinity.. Got Super User's Rights.. Loaded Root Checker and Titanium Backup. So, what bloatware is safe to delete? I know some apps/programs are tied to the ROM, like My Library and a few other apps that are "Red Flagged" by Titanium Backup, which makes me pause before trying to delete them. What bloatware/apps are safe to remove? Are there any tweaks that I can do to a "Rooted Only" table to increase performance or help extend battery life Or do I have to unlocked to realize any real/significant difference in performance??
Thanking you beforehand for your patience and advice to a newbie :fingers-crossed:
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Welcome to the dark side, now head on to installing new roms and kernel:good: go for Chromi-X

milesdavis said:
Life after Rooting....
Just now took the plunge and rooted by new TF700 infinity.. Got Super User's Rights.. Loaded Root Checker and Titanium Backup. So, what bloatware is safe to delete? I know some apps/programs are tied to the ROM, like My Library and a few other apps that are "Red Flagged" by Titanium Backup, which makes me pause before trying to delete them. What bloatware/apps are safe to remove? Are there any tweaks that I can do to a "Rooted Only" table to increase performance or help extend battery life Or do I have to unlocked to realize any real/significant difference in performance??
Thanking you beforehand for your patience and advice to a newbie :fingers-crossed:
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Actually, if you haven't unlocked yet and want to enjoy at least some of the advantages, try SD Booster. It's free in the Play Store and implements some tweaks sbdags also used in CROMi-X.
I tried it on my old, tired Droid1 and boy! This is a usable device again! Impressive!
Set the cache size to 4096 for the TF700. That's what sbdags set it to in CROMi-X.
If you try it, please report back. I'm very curious to hear how it works on a locked, rooted stock rom. I know of only one user who did this and he loves it! Says his TF700 on stock is now faster than his Nexus 7.

Thanks to everyone for all of your replies..
Even thought I'm new to tablets (this is my first one), I build my on boxes (the latest - Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz LGA 1150 on the Gigabyte mb, GA-Z87X-UD5H LGA 1150) I haven't built up the nerves to unlock a 8 month old tablet. For fear that I will (1) screw something up and brick it or (2) it goes bad and I'm while I'm still under warranty. Again, I gather from everyone that by "Rooting" you're not getting any real significant advantages other than the ability to delete or freeze some apps.
chew1992, after the warranty period I may go for the unlock especially since this may end up being a hand me down to the wife if I decide to get the new Asus tablet in the Q4.
Think I will take berndblb suggestion and try the SD Booster.....Thomas

milesdavis said:
Thanks to everyone for all of your replies..
Even thought I'm new to tablets (this is my first one), I build my on boxes (the latest - Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz LGA 1150 on the Gigabyte mb, GA-Z87X-UD5H LGA 1150) I haven't built up the nerves to unlock a 8 month old tablet. For fear that I will (1) screw something up and brick it or (2) it goes bad and I'm while I'm still under warranty. Again, I gather from everyone that by "Rooting" you're not getting any real significant advantages other than the ability to delete or freeze some apps.
chew1992, after the warranty period I may go for the unlock especially since this may end up being a hand me down to the wife if I decide to get the new Asus tablet in the Q4.
Think I will take berndblb suggestion and try the SD Booster.....Thomas
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It might be nerve racking but after unlocking my first phone.. doing it has been so much easier on each device that I've gotten. Just take your time, read though many posts and give yourself a good 1-2 hours the first time you do it, alone, quiet not to be distracted and you'll be happy you did.
Though even now that its rooted you can do many things that you couldn't before. Customization, tweaks, etc. Case in point, I have a phone, that while yes I can load custom roms, its only via a bootloader program so its never officially flashed to a new rom per say. So technically on it I only have a rooted phone, but I can and have tweaked the phone to be faster. It takes longer to do this instead of doing it via a custom rom like Cromi-X or CWM but it can be done. The Rom's tweak many aspects and is updated pretty regularly with subtle changes that can improve performance. So yes really you don't need to unlock the bootloader but... to get much needed performance out of it then yes I would unlock it. Me personally, I unlocked it within 6 hours of having the tablet.
As yourself, I'm an avid PC Builder/Overclocker. I build PC's for myself and close friends/family. This would be more the equivalent to tweaking windows vs building a PC if you need a comparison.

Necessary backups before flashing

Hey,
I might get s8+ really soon and coming from Sony, I've been wondering, is there anything worth backing up before I flash it or right after I flash it?
In Sony devices there's TA partition containing bootloader, IMEI etc which is worth backing up as you can restore TA backup and make your phone look as if it was never flashed. It's there something similar in S8? Or should I just flash it and don't worry about anything?
Thanks for answers.

Welcome to the 'Samsungverse'
olokos said:
Hey,
I might get s8+ really soon and coming from Sony, I've been wondering, is there anything worth backing up before I flash it or right after I flash it?
In Sony devices there's TA partition containing bootloader, IMEI etc which is worth backing up as you can restore TA backup and make your phone look as if it was never flashed. It's there something similar in S8? Or should I just flash it and don't worry about anything?
Thanks for answers.
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As a former Sony fanboy, first of all, welcome.
I know that I made the right choice ditching my Z5, though to be honest, it was a bit overdue. My previous disdain of Samsung devices was due first of all to the design and secondly, the bloatware of Touchwiz, but with the S8+ I was stunned into submission.
My question to you, is why do you think you need to flash, before even getting the device, and then what were you thinking of flashing. My experience so far is that there really is no need to Root this phone, there are so many features baked in that are not present on other Android devices. It really is an amazing phone.
I haven't really looked in detail at the threads dealing with flashing, but there are a number that can be found if you do an XDA search. The process of flashing seems rather more complicated than on Sony devices, and depending on what you flash, will trigger Knox, which is a security protocol that a number of secure apps need to run, such as 'Samsung Pay' and 'secure folder'. Tripping Knox also voids your warranty and is a consequence of 'Rooting' and is IRREVERSIBLE.
IMHO, the few custom ROM's that are available don't seem to substantially add value to the overall user experience, but I'm sure there are voices here that will disagree. For instance, there are native baked in features on the device that to all intents and purposes make 'Root' dependent apps such as 'Greenify' and 'Titanium Backup' redundant., and if you want to debloat there are 'non root' apps such as 'Package disabler' and 'Adhell' which is also a good ad blocker.
If you still feel the need to flash there are plenty of guides here on XDA, but good practise, is always to make a full backup.

olokos said:
Hey,
I might get s8+ really soon and coming from Sony, I've been wondering, is there anything worth backing up before I flash it or right after I flash it?
In Sony devices there's TA partition containing bootloader, IMEI etc which is worth backing up as you can restore TA backup and make your phone look as if it was never flashed. It's there something similar in S8? Or should I just flash it and don't worry about anything?
Thanks for answers.
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You should do a "nandroid/TWRP" backup as soon as you install TWRP the first time you load it before you make any "System Modification".
Do a total back up plus an EFS only back up in TWRP. Then reboot Recovery and this time you can modify your system and disable encryption.
This way you have a total stock back up if later on something goes wrong you have a way out!
But please search XDA forum for more details.
Good luck.

kxdaorbit said:
As a former Sony fanboy, first of all, welcome.
I know that I made the right choice ditching my Z5, though to be honest, it was a bit overdue. My previous disdain of Samsung devices was due first of all to the design and secondly, the bloatware of Touchwiz, but with the S8+ I was stunned into submission.
My question to you, is why do you think you need to flash, before even getting the device, and then what were you thinking of flashing. My experience so far is that there really is no need to Root this phone, there are so many features baked in that are not present on other Android devices. It really is an amazing phone.
I haven't really looked in detail at the threads dealing with flashing, but there are a number that can be found if you do an XDA search. The process of flashing seems rather more complicated than on Sony devices, and depending on what you flash, will trigger Knox, which is a security protocol that a number of secure apps need to run, such as 'Samsung Pay' and 'secure folder'. Tripping Knox also voids your warranty and is a consequence of 'Rooting' and is IRREVERSIBLE.
IMHO, the few custom ROM's that are available don't seem to substantially add value to the overall user experience, but I'm sure there are voices here that will disagree. For instance, there are native baked in features on the device that to all intents and purposes make 'Root' dependent apps such as 'Greenify' and 'Titanium Backup' redundant., and if you want to debloat there are 'non root' apps such as 'Package disabler' and 'Adhell' which is also a good ad blocker.
If you still feel the need to flash there are plenty of guides here on XDA, but good practise, is always to make a full backup.
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First of all, I enjoy modifying phone to my needs, this is how it all started for me. Most importantly I want to develop a kernel for S8+. It made world of a difference on my Z1 and I want to continue my work on S8+, from scratch, but still. I'm currently having a discussion with Samsung support whether they respect EU laws regarding Knox and warranty. As you can see, I've done tons of work so far and I want to continue doing so.
Secure folder doesnt really matter for me, Samsung Pay is soooo limited in Poland, or for that matter, any other sort of payment with NFC/phone, I haven't seen a single shop that was screaming that they support that in Warsaw, but I wasn't necessairly looking around for that, as apart from shop having to have that, bank has to have that and phone aswell, so too much hassle for little gain.
As for other options of blocking ads, they all run actively, not passively, so they put more strain on CPU, package disabler most likely does the same thing as just disabling an app manually in settings -> applications. It doesn't free up any memory in fact.
Not to mention other cool mods that can be done on this device.
samteeee said:
You should do a "nandroid/TWRP" backup as soon as you install TWRP the first time you load it before you make any "System Modification".
Do a total back up plus an EFS only back up in TWRP. Then reboot Recovery and this time you can modify your system and disable encryption.
This way you have a total stock back up if later on something goes wrong you have a way out!
But please search XDA forum for more details.
Good luck.
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Thanks, this is exactly what I needed to know. I'll see what samsung support says about whether they respect EU warranty laws or not and if they do then I'll trip knox instantaneously.

@kxdaorbit I didn't know that samsung implemented a firewall inside of their devices, that's pretty awesome! Adhell might actually do wonders, thanks for info man!

Alternative to Samsung Cloud/Smartswitch

Hey. So today I massively effed up and caused my phone to go into a non-repairable bootloop. After flashing my ROM I managed to get it back, but then the encryption got screwed and I ended up erasing all of my data. Not too bad because I had a back up. Except I didn't... Samsung Cloud did a **** job at preserving anything, I lost a TON of stuff and have to reinstall everything.
Anyhow, I've come to the conclusion that neither Samsung nor Google offer a stable, steady or reliable backup system (Google pretty much only re-downloads app from Play which is... nice... I guess). That is the ONLY thing I miss from iPhones, but I digress...
Does anyone have a good, solid and trustworthy alternative for automatic backups that would actually keep my ****? I know I can do it manually, but I tend to forget and I don't want the hassle of dealing with multiple apps and connections and whatnot.
Any suggestion welcome.
Thanks!

Titanium backup PRO is probably the best suited to your requirements, but requires root.
Here's a decent overview on it: https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/...automated-app-and-settings-backup-on-android/
Also their website https://www.titaniumtrack.com/titanium-backup.html which mentions scheduled backups in the pro section
If you have TWRP you could also do nandroid backups but it's all manual.

Beanvee7 said:
Titanium backup PRO is probably the best suited to your requirements, but requires root.
Here's a decent overview on it: https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/...automated-app-and-settings-backup-on-android/
Also their website https://www.titaniumtrack.com/titanium-backup.html which mentions scheduled backups in the pro section
If you have TWRP you could also do nandroid backups but it's all manual.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I definitely know how powerful Titanium is, but the issue is that I was going to retire from rooting and custom recoveries; it's what got me into this mess to start with. Plus, aside from using Titanium I really had very little day to day use for root and pretty much none that I absolutely couldn't do without, so I decided to just stop messing with it.
I find it infuriating that there is no decent backup system that doesn't require root; it seems like the most basic service to have! Sometimes I wonder if my account is not to blame because Google backup seems to say it keeps app data, passwords and such, yet I NEVER get any of it back... But enough *****ing, back to searching.