Database Info

Why root?

Being the xoom has sideload what other incentives are there to root? I have an atrix and thing of geting the xoom but w/o custom roms what does rooting do for you? And are there custom kernals if so what do those do thanx
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App

I think the better question is Why not root?
Rooting brings backups, recovery, ownership of the system, customization, and the ability to run modified hulu flash

You don't HAVE to root.
My XOOM is running stock 3.1
I've unlocked my TouchPro2 which sometimes runs Android too, rooted my wife's CDMA Hero and her NOOK Color.
I'm not opposed to rooting my XOOM, I just don't have a NEED to right now.
Its fast enough for my games, google reader and XDA app, I don't need overclocking, and I prefer the longer battery life anyway.
32GB of storage is quite a bit, so I don't need the SD right now, don't have a SD card for it yet either.
All the other little bits of neat things here and there are cool, and would be fun to play with. I probably will root eventually, but isn't necessary right now.
Don't let all this talk of rooting make you think you HAVE to, you don't.
If there's something released that you just absolutely have to have, root then.
Rooting alone won't make unicorns appear or magical gnomes keep your house clean.
But should someone write an app for the gnomes to clean my house, you can guarantee my XOOM will be rooted lol

KYT said:
You don't HAVE to root.
My XOOM is running stock 3.1
I've unlocked my TouchPro2 which sometimes runs Android too, rooted my wife's CDMA Hero and her NOOK Color.
I'm not opposed to rooting my XOOM, I just don't have a NEED to right now.
Its fast enough for my games, google reader and XDA app, I don't need overclocking, and I prefer the longer battery life anyway.
32GB of storage is quite a bit, so I don't need the SD right now, don't have a SD card for it yet either.
All the other little bits of neat things here and there are cool, and would be fun to play with. I probably will root eventually, but isn't necessary right now.
Don't let all this talk of rooting make you think you HAVE to, you don't.
If there's something released that you just absolutely have to have, root then.
Rooting alone won't make unicorns appear or magical gnomes keep your house clean.
But should someone write an app for the gnomes to clean my house, you can guarantee my XOOM will be rooted lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am also running stock 3.1. Rooting gives you the ability to do several things with your system because when you are "root" in a *nix environment you have control of everything. You can overwrite files, you can delete files, you can install whatever you want and you can also easily break stuff.
The last part is where users get into trouble.
My advice is always going to be to save rooting for the technically inclined. If you're technically inclined and feel like you can competantly run amuck in your system go for it man there's a ton of fun stuff you can do. If you're the slightest bit leary that you might get something wrong, or don't want to install development tools, etc... stay stock.

cwizardtx said:
I am also running stock 3.1. Rooting gives you the ability to do several things with your system because when you are "root" in a *nix environment you have control of everything. You can overwrite files, you can delete files, you can install whatever you want and you can also easily break stuff.
The last part is where users get into trouble.
My advice is always going to be to save rooting for the technically inclined. If you're technically inclined and feel like you can competantly run amuck in your system go for it man there's a ton of fun stuff you can do. If you're the slightest bit leary that you might get something wrong, or don't want to install development tools, etc... stay stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How do you manage to keep your nexus one stock? Lol
I for one have rooted every android device I owned I've never been a fan of stock either way its all up to you but my opinion is rooted >stock

bwcorvus said:
I think the better question is Why not root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric

Personally... overclocking, underclocking, screenshot, adfree, Hulu, system backup, Titanium backup.

ericbergan said:
Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Drm only hurts honest people...

Netflix currenty works on rooted devices. I can't see a logical reason why it would change either. But nothing the riaa does is really logical to me so who knows. But Netflix is streaming only so it is different than a 24hr rental service that you can actually download the file for offline viewing.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

PaulG1488 said:
How do you manage to keep your nexus one stock? Lol
I for one have rooted every android device I owned I've never been a fan of stock either way its all up to you but my opinion is rooted >stock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well actually I wouldn't mind rooting the Xoom or the Nexus one I just don't fiddle around with ROMs or kernels. Merely rooting the device all by itself is pretty safe and gets you a lot of things I guess.
I just had my Nexus repaired by HTC a couple weeks ago and they wiped it... even though I don't have all these fancy back up measures in place it took me all of 10 minutes to put the phone back the way it was.

ericbergan said:
Because Google will be blocking movies (and I'll bet Netflix does, as well) on rooted devices. Which then leaves us stuck with how to do things like backup, customization, etc. without a rooted device...
eric
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
doesn't bother me cos australia can't get movies anyway... i rooted to get more control (for system apps and stuff) and for otg stuff

because you can. root then unroot if you have to.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

Yes there are custom kernels. These add SD card support and real micro USB otg hosting, including the ability to read thumb drives and hard drives. That to me was enough to root. I don't want to pollute my Xoom's disk space with 10gb of music and another 10 with movies. Google music beta solved the music and hot swaping USB solved everything else.

Should I Root?

Please keep in mind I have never rooted a phone and have no idea how to.
Ok so I Don't know if I should root my Sensation, or just leave it as is. I know there are risks to rooting, but I hear rooting makes phone's more customizable?
So.. Please post:
-The Advantages of rooting
-The DisAdvantages
-The Risks
-For a noob like me, on a scale of 1-10 how hard will it be? 10 = Hardest
-Should I root, and why.
Thank you!

Go to google.com and type in "what is rooting android" now spend the next 30minutes-1hour reading and learning.
Sent from my Sensation using xda premium

From a scale from 1-10, I think it'd be like a 2. Its fairly simple if you read the instructions carefully.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e

You should definitely root! It gives you complete control over your phone and customize it whatever way you want!
On a scale from 1-10, i think it'll be 2 too. Its really easy if you follow the instructions clearly.If you don't, there might be a chance of bricking your phone if you messed up somewhere badly. The chances are really slim though!
Sent from my fingers to appear on your screen magically.

Root gives u absolute control over your phone. Like admin rights on a windows computer. No disadvantages. Lots of advantages (read: a lot of cool programs out there that require root privileges)
The risk is not following instructions and turning your phone into an expensive paperweight. For a noob like you, if you can follow instructions, difficulty level is a 1. Likelihood of you bricking your phone is negatively correlated with your SAT score.
Sent from my HTC Sensation

Real question is:
Does the phone do what you want it to do as it is now?
If the answer is 'yes' then rooting isn't really neccessary. The ONLY reason I've rooted is to remove all the system apps I don't use. I use my own ROM which is basic and does what I want it to do

EddyOS said:
Real question is:
Does the phone do what you want it to do as it is now?
If the answer is 'yes' then rooting isn't really neccessary. The ONLY reason I've rooted is to remove all the system apps I don't use. I use my own ROM which is basic and does what I want it to do
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Prety much this ... for a noob rooting is totally useless .. many people do it to strip the phone off useless aps to make it faster ... which fact lost its point for me with new OTA release with which Sense became fast enought to prevent example me from bothering with rooting. At this moment theres no reason good enough for me to do it.
Another group of people are those who root just to be pimp and IN even if its totally worthless for them.
Different group of people are those who use root/s-off for changing/modifying/creating custom ROMs with either some sort of tweaked HTC Sense with transparency, various MODs and that kind of stuff, or totally different graphic layout (which reason i never fully understood since i bought Sensation for its Sense .. hence the HTC brand .. innit?)
So yea ask urself ... does the phone have all i need? if the answer is yes, then theres no need for rooting for you.
Thats my subjective point of view.

If you root you can customize your phone the way you like it, or atleast the ways developers make available to you. i just rooted my phone for the first time and it was way easier than i thought it was. before you flash a new rom, make sure you backup your device with titanium backup. then after its flashed, you can easily restore all your apps and data with titanium backup. the only data you really lose is your home screen apps because you have to put all your apps and widgets back on your own.

EddyOS said:
Real question is:
Does the phone do what you want it to do as it is now?
If the answer is 'yes' then rooting isn't really neccessary. The ONLY reason I've rooted is to remove all the system apps I don't use. I use my own ROM which is basic and does what I want it to do
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^^This is THE perfect response to the question
I've not rooted and unless I need ICS and it won't come to the Sensation (to be honest, by the time you NEED ice cream sandwich the Sensation will likely be old tech) so I'll need a custom ROM, or there's some work related can't live without app that requires root, I can't see myself ever needing to do it.

I have rooted my 7 weeks old Sensation after only 3 weeks. Initially I thought I would never have to do so, but there were 2 things which made me unhappy: bloatware and the bitpool problem which causes crappy sound while listening to music over bluetooth headset. After all I flashed the device with as much as 7 separate roms and since today I'm happy with CM7 alpha 4. It's like a completely different device So I'd always say yes, but it depends on how your needs are.

You should root. Simply because there are many awesom apps in the market that required the root. With a rooted phone, you can do whatever you want.
The risk is your phone can be bricked. But i rooted many android phone but no brick to me, you should give it a try

What amazing apps are there for rooted devices? I'm thinking of rooting mine, mainly for the extra customisation options, but don't know if I can be bothered backing up all my apps and data. You have to back up sd card too don't you?
Sent from my brain

tibuchivn said:
You should root. Simply because there are many awesom apps in the market that required the root. With a rooted phone, you can do whatever you want.
The risk is your phone can be bricked. But i rooted many android phone but no brick to me, you should give it a try
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thx. Couldn't have said it better. No risk - no fun
---------- Post added at 10:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:54 PM ----------
yourpassenger said:
What amazing apps are there for rooted devices? I'm thinking of rooting mine, mainly for the extra customisation options, but don't know if I can be bothered backing up all my apps and data. You have to back up sd card too don't you?
Sent from my brain
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Titanium Backup
Root Explorer
AdFree
you can even install the HTC Beats Music mod, if you want to. I've tested that and it really sounds better. I even miss that on CM7, but I love CM7 for other reasons...
I'm sure, I forgot some apps, but it's late here
Regarding backup:
I usually have Titanium Backup for my apps & apps data (important and convenient, when moving to another rom) plus a general (clockworkmod) backup of the whole phone rom prior to flashing to be able to easily go back if something goes wrong...

im not stranger to rooting as i have done all kinds of crazy crap to my vibrant, i have the sensation and im not so sure if i want to root. Its cause i hear Htc devices are alot easier to brick, and i don't wanna risk messing with the bootloader. So far its running great, wifi tether, screenshots, i don't think you really need it.

well.
i thought im not happy with my phone so i rooted.
i installed the revolution room , it looked promising but im not happy.
my phone getting super hot while playing and some time rebooting it self and dont stop reboot until i remove the battery
as someone else said if u happy with your phone just leave it.

BshadoW1 said:
well.
i thought im not happy with my phone so i rooted.
i installed the revolution room , it looked promising but im not happy.
my phone getting super hot while playing and some time rebooting it self and dont stop reboot until i remove the battery
as someone else said if u happy with your phone just leave it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And if you're not happy with your phone send it back for a replacement
Course now you'll have to get it back to it's original condition and un-root it to do that...

And how about spoonfeeding???
Dude... Please read, read and read some more.
What ya'll get with root.... almost all access to all the files....
Here comes the question? What ya gonna do with it?
Do you need that?.... Don't think so. Yer probably thinking of supping yer phone...
Installing different ROM.... Then... ROMs come rooted already.
What you might ask for is: Should I S-OFF my phone?
That's up to you. You lose yer warranty if S-OFF discovered, but you can do whatever you want with yer phone....
Hope I explained as simple as it comes...
Tester
---------- Post added at 05:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:07 PM ----------
xaccers said:
And if you're not happy with your phone send it back for a replacement
Course now you'll have to get it back to it's original condition and un-root it to do that...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude....
Replacement not gonna do a crap... To be honest...
If he plays games and all other 9 yards.... His battery has to be glowing!!!
JMO.
Tester

Tester30 said:
Dude....
Replacement not gonna do a crap... To be honest...
If he plays games and all other 9 yards.... His battery has to be glowing!!!
JMO.
Tester
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mine doesn't. I've never had a reboot due to over heating, or gotten too hot to touch, and that's even with streaming music via bluetooth, downloading over 3G and using GPS. Likewise while playing graphics intensive games with online content it's got warm but not over heated.
Some handsets have suffered an over heating issue and rightly have been replaced under warranty.

You should root, really you don't know what your missing, Android Revolution is best ROM out there and root ting is vary safe.

OK I am also new to rooting.. Can anyone suggest me link on how to root my sensation.. Plus after rooting do I need to change Kernel and Radio? (Though I still don't understand both terms).
My only concern is the slow performance. The phone should run faster for a 1.2 Ghz processor...

[Q] Why root/unlock this device?

Hi everyone,
I just arrived here from the world of Nook Color where for 20 months I have been rooting and installing CM roms. For the Nook that was essential since out of the box it was not an Android tablet.
I have had the tf700 for only 4 days, and I am delighted with it. Upgraded it to JB and have no complaints. My question is - what is the rationale for rooting and unlocking my new toy? Are there some issues with stock that need addressing, or is it just to satisfy the innate hacker that lives in all of us?
I'll do it if there is a point to it, but I am pretty happy with everything I see right now...
Derek
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium

derekr said:
Hi everyone,
I just arrived here from the world of Nook Color where for 20 months I have been rooting and installing CM roms. For the Nook that was essential since out of the box it was not an Android tablet.
I have had the tf700 for only 4 days, and I am delighted with it. Upgraded it to JB and have no complaints. My question is - what is the rationale for rooting and unlocking my new toy? Are there some issues with stock that need addressing, or is it just to satisfy the innate hacker that lives in all of us?
I'll do it if there is a point to it, but I am pretty happy with everything I see right now...
Derek
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are happy, I think no reason to. I have mine rooted because I wanted to buy things from Japanese Market i.e. needed to use Market Enabler. Another benefit is Browser2ram. Though browser on JB is so much better, browser2ram can make even better. Having said this, the gain to me is not as noticeble as it was with ICS. So yes. not much reason to root unless you need to use root only application.
As far as unlocking, I think main reason is to use custom rom but I am personally satisfied with stock rom so have not unlocked personally.

My reasons:
1. Titanium Backup (ease of restore after factory reset)
2. Ad Away (Ads drain my battery)
3. Cerberus, device tracker (root users can make app a system app then remotely enable GPS)
4. Orbot, useful for encrypting traffic on unsecured wireless networks (Only with root can you enable "transparent proxy")
Just to name a few reasons. Not as many reasons as why I need root on my phone but ill edit if I remember more.

TeCKNeiC said:
My reasons:
1. Titanium Backup (ease of restore after factory reset)
2. Ad Away (Ads drain my battery)
3. Cerberus, device tracker (root users can make app a system app then remotely enable GPS)
4. Orbot, useful for encrypting traffic on unsecured wireless networks (Only with root can you enable "transparent proxy")
Just to name a few reasons. Not as many reasons as why I need root on my phone but ill edit if I remember more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Titanium Backup is a biggie for me. Couldn't do without it.
2. Total Commander needs root access to be able to manage the external memory cards. I use them for storing large files (movies, documentaries, etc.).
3. AdAway -- they not only waste bandwidth and battery, but they burn my retina away. (I'm so thankful for donation versions, so I can kick the ads out and support the dev in the meantime.)
4. BetterBatteryStats
Those are the few that are currently listed with SuperSU -- I do have browser2RAM installed, but to be honest I didn't notice any tangible improvement.

It's worth the root

Great post!
I'm happy with no root for now.
Lost it when the 4.1 update showed up.
I was running a few apps needing root, yet I don't really miss them...well except for b2ram.
Can't answer about unlocking...I don't want to do that until I buy another tablet.
I'll probably mess with rooting eventually when I get really bored or when quick and easy solution appears if ever.
For now like yourself the hacker in me is taking a break

Thats OK said:
For now like yourself the hacker in me is taking a break
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I believe the saying goes something like "the bow cannot always stand bent." ; )

My reasoning was that my stock experience was real glitchy (launcher crashes, freezing, random reboots, stuttering from bloat running in the background)... wanted a streamlined ROM and the ability to use AutoStarts. And TB and Ad Away are never bad things to have, either.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2

at this point, as stated above, is about the apps you want to use. I suggest rooting since it doesn't void warranty. There are plenty of good apps that make use of it. Unlocking, that does void warranty. I would wait till your satisfied with the build of your Infinity In addition, wait till there is that must have rom or kernal. Since you mentioned Cyanogenmod, it hasn't officially been released yet. There is some work being done, but as usual with early builds, not everything is working yet.

I rooted mine so I can set up a chroot environment running a real GNU/Linux distro in order to do things like connecting to my home networked filesystems over a VPN service that I pay for in addition to accessing that machine for development purposes while travelling away from home using software that I trust and know has a good reputation within a wider, respected community of developers (openvpn, openssh-client, vim, etc etc).
I unlocked mine so that I can experiement with building Yocto-based filesystems which I eventually plan to flash to my device, and also so I can contribute testing/development effort to Debian's armhf architecture. Also, I want to learn what free AND copyleft touchscreen input translation layers are available that allow one to emulate traditional mouse pointers when using applications not originally intended for touchscreen interfaces.
I am not particularly happy with Android or the contortions that its developers push themselves through to restrict what can be done with it "out-of-the-box"; though I do recognize it as a preferred alternative to other systems that disrespect user freedoms such as iOS and WE. I also understand that there are arguments to be made in favor of Android's disrespect of user freedoms such as the need to protect consumer devices that are difficult to fix after hard bricking.
So yeah, I guess it boils down to is, I want to use the software I prefer and am familiar with as well as satisfying my desire to learn and contribute to the free software community.

help help!!!
pls i just go my tf700 2 days ago. with building number IML74K.US_epad-9.4.5.26-20120720,. i want to root and need jelly bean on it, but i dont know how to go about it. also i have no memory card yet, pls someone enlighten me on the steps:crying:

I was also fine with mine stock but I needed root to connect to my university's wifi which has a proxy, theres an app called proxyfier that enables system-wide proxy access, but it needs root... As some others said, if there's no specific reason why you'd want to root/unlock... don't.

My opinion is, UNLOCKING your device is something you need to think about. It's void your warranty and if you don't plan on playing with custom rom then don't do it. However, rooting is a great benefit to your device and you always can un root if you like.

buhohitr said:
My opinion is, UNLOCKING your device is something you need to think about. It's void your warranty and if you don't plan on playing with custom rom then don't do it. However, rooting is a great benefit to your device and you always can un root if you like.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
+1 Listen to this man - he knows what he is talking about. :fingers-crossed:

[Q] Convince me to unlock

I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.

If you feel this way, do it. But why? Are you missing apps?
Sent from my LG-P500 using xda app-developers app

Why what, why do I want to unlock it? All the reasons I just outlined, it kinds a little annoying having to wait 5 seconds for the keyboard to pop up randomly, or the little stutters and halts when you browse as the page is loading. I just don't know for sure if there are ROMs out there that will take care of these for me, or if they fix the IO issue, or if that's even the culprit at all here.
I'm also running into a really annoying friggin typing issue here where it will double press keys, and when I go to backspace, it copies and pastes the word I'm trying to delete a line above where I am. I think it's only this forum, but it renders typing on the tablet here useless.

I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.

rightonred said:
I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update). I now have a fully unbrickable, and fully flashable and downgradable tab. The biggest pain is that the updates don't work, but they can be downloaded from asus's website and flashed manually. Cleanrom as virtually free of the IO issue, and CM is slick all around.
Also try using an alternate keyboard such as swiftkey or hackers keyboard.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
when you say free of the IO issue, have you tried transferring large files to the onboard storage (not SD)? iirc it was a hardware issue so no amount of software fix is going to fix it. IO issue != stuttering when browsing

Well, I'm pretty sure I'm going through with it, I'll probably wait a bit yet just to read up some more. I'll get the SquareTrade warranty with the 40% off coupon as soon as I figure out how to get the code just as a crutch/safety net, and I'm thinking of going with CleanROM Inheritance.
So, grabbed from David's thread earlier, this is the basic process:
Unlock
Reboot
Install Goo Manger
Install TWRP recovery
Reboot into recovery
Install ROM/Gapps
{PROFIT}!?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there a thread somewhere that at least has screenshots as you start loading the ROMs, because I've never done that before and would like to just see what I'm going to be looking at first.

I was trying not to add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...

Thats OK said:
I was trying not add in here...
As a one week old tablet owner I wouldn't let myself get drawn in too quickly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214&highlight=warranty
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1979655&highlight=warranty
The above threads talk about some bad luck.
I recommend trying another path to alleviate any minor performance issues.
Then again if you're compelled to to unlock and flash it is a great idea to read and read some more.
Spend some time learning about pitfalls and benefits.
I'm thinking one week is too soon.
That is unless you're very confident about tweaking.
*just a note:
Get familiar with some of the tools used for pushing updates outside of OTAs to your Android.
If not already...good luck!
Apologies about the long winded response...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.

berfles said:
I hear what you're saying, but the SquareTrade warranties will still apply to unlocked devices, won't they? I plan on getting the 2 year from them just in case the **** hits the fan, I can get 40% off the normal price which puts it below $60. I think I read something here about them honoring the warranty even if the tablet gets bricked.
As far as the "other paths", what would they include? I rooted and froze some of the bloatware on here, I wasn't aware of anything else that could be done without unlocking. I'm used to tweaking everything computer related, I've just never done this before so if there's a thread that has a step by step with pictures so I don't go in blind that would be good. Even without the screens I'd be alright, I'll be sure to read up about it more.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!

Thats OK said:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDroidDemos/videos?query=tf700t
These vids from DroidDemos have helped me in the past.
You can also search the "TF201 and TF300T" vids on DD some of those procedures will be the same as the Infinity.
Other things to try would be stepping back to ICS from JB.
JellyBean has proven buggy for a number of tablet users.
Turning on GPU 2d rendering under settings.
Not using the stock browser try an alternative.
If your using the Asus keyboard try the original Android keyboard.
Use the Asus task manager to shut down recurring apps.
Turn down screen brightness.
Turn off Bluetooth.
Turn off GPS temporarily.
Good read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28427614&postcount=1
...and of course try the factory reset or wipe cache from a cold boot (Volume down + power button then do nothing and wait for reboot)
etc.
Now do some homework and have fun!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?

berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You'll have to do the convincing yourself.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Depends on which browser you use. In most cases, it will improve considerably, but if you use the stock browser you can achieve the same effect with some tweaking (after rooting).
Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hardly remove the dock. Is this a known issue??
Will the overall system be snappier?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, as this is a software issue.
Does it somehow fix the slow io?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, as this is hardware-related..
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As I said, you'll have to do the convincing yourself, as that is a decision I have nothing to do with. Taking a swig of my own medicine - I unlocked at the first opportunity -- I'd say that the benefits are significant.
---------- Post added at 11:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:24 AM ----------
berfles said:
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because a large minority of apps seem to have compatibility issues, causing them to force-close. Legacy reasons, in other words.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As far as I have followed the discussions, the ST warranty has been used a few times.

rightonred said:
I unlocked because I was receiving the update notification for .30 and I wanted NvFlash access (which I would not be able to do after accepting the update).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was also the main motivation for me - the big decision if I want to be forever limited to what Asus provides, but with warranty and automatic upgrades, or if I want to take full control over my own tablet, with the risk of having to pay for hardware faults.
Knowing that I could not upgrade past 9.4.5.26 without either unlocking or forever losing full control over the bootloader forced me to decide. I still waited for a few weeks, then I finally unlocked, made the nvflash backups and upgraded to stock JB. After a few days I installed CleanROM. Not all lag issues went away, but I still think the experience is better than before.

Unlocking totally worth it for me
I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt

berfles said:
I'm trying to convince myself to unlock my week old Infinity. Obviously I'm worried about the warranty, but need to know if these symptoms I'm experiencing vanish with a custom ROM.
First, and I guess this is the io problem, but the general pausing I occasionally get while browsing, will that go away? Also the slow to pop up keyboard issue? Will the overall system be snappier? Does it somehow fix the slow io?
I guess I'm just trying to figure out exactly what a custom ROM will do for me and if it's worth it for me. I did read through the stickies at the top but didn't see anything specific.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think that it's important for you to state where you live (which continent).
Because if you live in Europe, you have nothing to fear. If you unlock your device, you cannot be held responsible for hardware (/production) issues. The repair centres will always replace anything for free the first 6 months after your purchase.
In the United States customer service will help you out as well, as long as you bought the device from a somewhat bigger and respectable store.
To be honest, unlocking the device is the best thing since sliced bread. It fixed a lot of issues and I can easily get above 6500 on Quandrant on the normal mode and I get 6900+ on performance mode.
Hope this helps you out

physicsguymatt said:
I've had my infinity for about 4 months now, I rooted a while back. I just recently unlocked and started using CleanRom Inheritance (now at version 2.5.5). I was always happy with the tablet, but had some of the issues you mentioned and after 4 months I figured what have i got to lose? (I also have a ST warranty)
★★ CleanROM 2.5.5 Inheritance | 10.4.4.20 | OC/UV Kernels | JB 4.1.1
I can tell you it's made QUITE a difference in the overall responsiveness and eliminated just about all of the stutters and pauses I thought was just a natural part of the infinity ecosystem. Check out the thread, check out the quadrant scores and see if it's something you'll find worthy of unlocking for. I'm very happy I did it. No regrets and I feel like I have a brand new tablet that performs the way it was supposed to all along.
The customizations built in to the Aroma installer alone is worth a look.
Matt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!

sbdags said:
Plus one on this. Tablet is a joy to use now!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, *we* love *your* ROM, too!

Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?

berfles said:
Thanks for the replies, lots to look at and go through. I looked through some of the CROMI thread and the last few pages had me a little worried, seemed people were having troubles but I didn't go back far enough to see if that was user error or what.
Once I do this, if I make it through the process without issue does that mean I'm out of the woods in terms of danger? I mean most issues people have occur when they're trying to flash a ROM, right? So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you got worried about the issues some people seem to have, just flash CleanROM 2.4 -- it won't be updated, but it was rock-stable. It seems that there is quite a bit of variability between our devices, as there have been lots of issues experienced by small numbers of users (sometimes even only one) that even Scott found hard to reproduce.
The riskiest thing you can do is flashing a bootloader -- even there, if done correctly, the risk is minimal, but at its highest point. Just flashing a ROM in itself doesn't carry that much of a risk at all -- you might end up with an OS that doesn't boot, but then you could always enter recovery, wipe date/factory reset and just flash an earlier version, or another ROM altogether. As long as you keep a working ROM .zip file handy for emergency flashing (I have one on my SGS2 that was amid-life ICS version of RootBox), you'll be able to save your bacon.
Oh... don't forget to get a good backup program *I'd suggest Titanium Backup Pro), and set a (preferably daily) schedule for the backups. That way, you won't lose more than the data modified since the last backup. That has worked out nicely for me the past few years.
---------- Post added at 01:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:34 AM ----------
berfles said:
So if I get through that part it's not like something debilitating is going to pop up down the road out of the blue?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flashing a custom ROM will not make a hardware problem rear its ugly head. It would've been there before, so check for the known issues thoroughly. If OK, flash away.

Ive had my TF700 for awhile, always had it rooted but today unlocked it.
Took 10mins to get Teamwin and install liquid smooth.
I should of done this months ago, this rom let alone makes a huge difference in speed, plus the customization never ends.
DO IT

berfles said:
Thanks. I'm doing a lot of those already, I just enabled the GPU 2d rendering and my benchmark score shot way up on that front, not sure where I'll notice it in real world applications though. Why is it even disabled by default, seems like that's the way it should be from the get go.
I'll check the videos out and your other link.
Does anyone know about the SquareTrade warranty for sure?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you read term and condition, Square Trade will not cover unlocked bootloader. BTW, running custom rom will eliminated ALL your issues mentioned above. Your device will be fast and smooth just like the way it should be.

Is rooting worth it?

Hello guys,
I bought an S7 around 2/3 months ago. I'm in the UK meaning that I don't have Samsung Pay and probably wont when it releases (Natwest didn't support the Android Pay launch so they probably won't for the Samsung Pay either so I don't really care if I root.) I'm considering about rooting the device but I have a few questions.
1. What apps and features do i lose access to when the flash counter is triggered?
2. Is there a way to reset the flash counter to get them apps to work again?
3. Is there an app which allows me to change the Ultra Power Saver apps? (I know there was one for the S5 rooted but don't know if it works on the S7 and can't currently try it due to it needing root perms)
4. Would you recommend rooting the device? (I've rooted my Moto G 2nd gen in the past but didn't really use it for all that much though I feel that with an S7 I might be able to do more things by being rooted.)
Thanks in advance

1. The only thing I think you really lose is Samsung Pay (since I rooted yesterday haven't noticed any other major issues)
2. As of right now there is no option to do this, though I know other devices have recieved the ability through triangle away. Sadly this is not currently available.
3. It doesn't currently look like it, but I think they will probably update the app (looked and the app i found was UPSM+ and it costs money so couldn't actually test)
4. I'm happy I did because I can use apps like sixaxis for using my ds4 controller, and I'm trying out viper audio which I've heard is good)
Don't know if this helps or not, I like to know I have the full control of my device, but that's just me maybe.

I always root everything, but this phone almost like a Greek Goddess - beautiful and accommodating. But after about a month I went ahead and rooted it. I am a heavy user of Google chrome and Google music radio stations and the amount of ads they push through their channels is extremely obnoxious. I feel guilty toward Greek Gods now, but I am at peace...

Palisandr said:
I always root everything, but this phone almost like a Greek Goddess - beautiful and accommodating. But after about a month I went ahead and rooted it. I am a heavy user of Google chrome and Google music radio stations and the amount of ads they push through their channels is extremely obnoxious. I feel guilty toward Greek Gods now, but I am at peace...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would you suggest I root the phone? I'm very worried that I will not like the consequences that come with it. I've seen and looked up the issues that it has, and I have also seen that they have been fixed. My main focuses are: Battery Life, performance, texting and calling works, I get a good signal from my carrier.
Do these all work like they should? Do they work as if there isn't even root on the phone?

Nobiscis said:
Would you suggest I root the phone? I'm very worried that I will not like the consequences that come with it. I've seen and looked up the issues that it has, and I have also seen that they have been fixed. My main focuses are: Battery Life, performance, texting and calling works, I get a good signal from my carrier.
Do these all work like they should? Do they work as if there isn't even root on the phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Being rooted itself shouldn't affect anything you listed. Now certain apps you install that require root may negatively affect battery life, and possibly performance, but texting, calling, and signal shouldn't change. Rooting essentially gives you administrator privileges like on a Windows PC, what you do from there is what will affect you the most.

Palisandr said:
I always root everything, but this phone almost like a Greek Goddess - beautiful and accommodating. But after about a month I went ahead and rooted it. I am a heavy user of Google chrome and Google music radio stations and the amount of ads they push through their channels is extremely obnoxious. I feel guilty toward Greek Gods now, but I am at peace...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Outbreak444 said:
Being rooted itself shouldn't affect anything you listed. Now certain apps you install that require root may negatively affect battery life, and possibly performance, but texting, calling, and signal shouldn't change. Rooting essentially gives you administrator privileges like on a Windows PC, what you do from there is what will affect you the most.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know, but there have been several user saying that they are having the issues I have stated.

Nobiscis said:
I know, but there have been several user saying that they are having the issues I have stated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well are you using the US variant? There are some problems with the engboot but a lot of users are saying that they are resolved with the fixes they provide. A lot of people are sticking with it because they still feel the pros outweigh the cons. Something to think about if you, yourself, would prefer root over stock.

Outbreak444 said:
Well are you using the US variant? There are some problems with the engboot but a lot of users are saying that they are resolved with the fixes they provide. A lot of people are sticking with it because they still feel the pros outweigh the cons. Something to think about if you, yourself, would prefer root over stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am on the US variant. One of the main reasons I'd be rooting is for the game hacks I can get, so those are the biggest pros for me

Nobiscis said:
I am on the US variant. One of the main reasons I'd be rooting is for the game hacks I can get, so those are the biggest pros for me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In that case, as long as you won't miss Samsung Pay then go for it. You can always flash back to stock if you aren't happy with it. Give it a week and see if you get used to it. If not, then there is a thread here that explains how to flash back to stock completely.

Outbreak444 said:
In that case, as long as you won't miss Samsung Pay then go for it. You can always flash back to stock if you aren't happy with it. Give it a week and see if you get used to it. If not, then there is a thread here that explains how to flash back to stock completely.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is there a way I can flash a backup?
Sorry, noob questions

Nobiscis said:
Is there a way I can flash a backup?
Sorry, noob questions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you root and want to restore later on. I Recommend flashing a recovery such as TWRP and create a backup via TWRP. once that's done, bootup device and install SuperSU. Once that's done, open app and let it flash what it need a to flash via TWRP. there should be threads here in XDA for your device. Backups can only be done with a recovery. If this is your first time. READ THE PROCEDURES CAREFULLY. No one is to blame but your self if you screw up your device. Research before acting
Sent from my One using XDA Free mobile app

Nobiscis said:
Is there a way I can flash a backup?
Sorry, noob questions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Of course, look into FlashFire, it should be able to backup and flash.

You will most likely forfeit your remaining manufacturers warranty.
I run the non-rooted version of the 935f exynos S7e and have superb battery life unlike some that rooted it.
Unless you are particularly adverse to TW or need to play constantly with icons I wouldn't bother. Samsungs stock browser is also very fast.

drummerman said:
You will most likely forfeit your remaining manufacturers warranty.
I run the non-rooted version of the 935f exynos S7e and have superb battery life unlike some that rooted it.
Unless you are particularly adverse to TW or need to play constantly with icons I wouldn't bother. Samsungs stock browser is also very fast.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't really care that much about the warranty really, I've owned quite alot of devices in the past and haven't needed to use the warranty's for any of them. My device used to have really good battery life but it just feels that these days the life has gone down quite significantly.
I do like the customization which root permissions gives. I guess I might have to wait until Samsung Pay comes out to see if my bank (Natwest) supports the launch or not. I only want to root for the UPSM app really since most of the root battery saver apps don't work from my past experiences.

Nobiscis said:
I know, but there have been several user saying that they are having the issues I have stated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did not notice any adverse effects yet, but I only installed one program requiring root - Adaway. I am sure you know, but by rooting the phone you void your warranty, trip Knox and will not be able to use Samsung and Android pay.