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New Market in Android?

Hey everyone,
Have you been annoyed lately with the maket? Like how alot of times when downloading apps just hangs? Or like how it takes down apps that are "against" carriers TOC? And takes 30% of the profits from devs for paid apps?
Well we just had this random idea yesterday and it was to make a new market...
This market will be for the community by the community.
Such as the ability to blacklist apps/devs..
And advanced searching...
etc...
Its called AppWire http://appwire.org (as you see the sites not made yet ;D )
We just had this idea yesterday so its still in its infant stage, so we still need all app dev's and web dev's we can get!
If you can't help with developement then feel free to post feature requests!
If you want help with development email me at aakashbpatel [at] gmail.com or look for us in the #appwire channel on freenode.
Thanks Everyone!

I think there's already something similar to this. Forgot its name though. But I do agree Google's policy of removing apps that violate *one* carrier's TOS is ridiculous.

So, lemme get this right - you complain that apps are being removed because they are against the carrier TOC, but one of the features you want to build into your market is the ability to blacklist apps/devs?
Sorry, but the Android market really isn't THAT bad. Sure, annoying at times, but 99% of the time it works, plus I don't think 30% is that excessive at all.

ScottC said:
So, lemme get this right - you complain that apps are being removed because they are against the carrier TOC, but one of the features you want to build into your market is the ability to blacklist apps/devs?
Sorry, but the Android market really isn't THAT bad. Sure, annoying at times, but 99% of the time it works, plus I don't think 30% is that excessive at all.
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Blacklist apps ONLY if people vote to take it off...
Thanks
Aakash

How many Markets do we really need? We already have the official Market, AndAppStore, SlideME, and several other places to purchase apps. The more Markets there are, the more difficult it is to distribute apps. And users simply need to go more places to find the same stuff. Maybe if we make a real effort with Google to get changes implemented everyone will be better off. Just my opinion.

nEx.Software said:
How many Markets do we really need? We already have the official Market, AndAppStore, SlideME, and several other places to purchase apps. The more Markets there are, the more difficult it is to distribute apps. And users simply need to go more places to find the same stuff. Maybe if we make a real effort with Google to get changes implemented everyone will be better off. Just my opinion.
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I agree with you also, and I was looking at slidme's TOC's and it pretty muc said that they own your app if you publish it....and I didn't think it was right that they have the ability to do that.
So I wanted to make a market that everyones opinion matters and one that respects the app developers also.

ScottC said:
So, lemme get this right - you complain that apps are being removed because they are against the carrier TOC, but one of the features you want to build into your market is the ability to blacklist apps/devs?
Sorry, but the Android market really isn't THAT bad. Sure, annoying at times, but 99% of the time it works, plus I don't think 30% is that excessive at all.
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the blacklist would be custom to each person not market wide, like if I didnt want to see apps by "DEV A" ONLY I wouldn't see apps by DEV A, alls "99%" of the time, i think thats pushing it i must not use market often or maybe you are on the lucky side.

Its not that bad of an idea, if anyone has experience with ipod touch or iphone, it could be set up something like cydia. A user customizable market in which apps that the normal market wont allow are easier available and such. Though, the blacklist should be just like on a personal basis or not there at all as it would defeat the purpose of the whole thing for more freedom. I think thats kinda what he was suggesting, if so not to bad.

Great idea, totally support!
More options is better. And right now I don't know any "markets" where I can easily download wifi-tether for example. Plus the original market luck of web-interface and (really) many other features. So, for me an alternative market seems like a good idea. It just doesn't look for me like an easy project

there is another one but that one sucks!
this seems like a cool idea for hardcore root access apps and apps that people dont want googles paws on in general

ScottC said:
So, lemme get this right - you complain that apps are being removed because they are against the carrier TOC, but one of the features you want to build into your market is the ability to blacklist apps/devs?
Sorry, but the Android market really isn't THAT bad. Sure, annoying at times, but 99% of the time it works, plus I don't think 30% is that excessive at all.
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Im kinda on the fence on the "blacklist" issue. On one hand, it is the right of the developer to develop applications for this platform, and to release his/her work on the market to be used/previewed/rated/commented/purchased by other users. It is also their right to be paid for their efforts. On the other hand, I certainly agree that assaulting the market with 10 different $5 slideshows a day, is verging on MALICIOUS. Seriously, ive never even DOWNLOADED anything put out by Khalid Shaik, yet im sure that none of these slideshows take more than 15 or 20 minutes to produce, i bet not even that long. And $4.99?!?!?!?!?!?!?! SINCE WHEN is a slideshow about Swine Flu worth $5 bucks?! This guy just wants to take advantage of people who havent caught onto him yet. His apps arent worth FREE, much less actual money...you couldnt pay me enough to download anything from him. It IS NOT the right of ANY developer to flood the market with apps of this nature. If you wanna make a slideshow and put it out on the market thats fine...if you worked harder on it than most, then charge a dollar for it...thats fine, too... But dont put out the same damn app 16 times, only with the sounds and images changed, and expect that you have the right to charge $5 bucks apiece again and again and again for the same lame crap.

i like this idea, possible features:
o a root/dev component where devs can post beta releases of apps for root phones to be tested and used by advanced g1 users without it being buried, which tends to happen in the android market.
o a tagging feature for apps in addition to categories for easier searching.
o maybe in addition to apps, this can be a place to download roms and stuff.
o a separate widget category or maybe have a section for categorized apps and a section for categorized widgets.
as far as actual implementation you can do it a couple of ways:
1)an actual market app, like the android market
2)maybe easier to pull off initially, a well organized, mobile ready website
3)i personally think a widget component would be cool, paired with either one of the earlier options. the widget could give people recently added apps, updates on existing apps or in preferred categories/tags, and people can use the widget to navigate to a website or a corresponding app.
i think this would be a good opportunity for a community of experienced users like xda to pool a lot of knowledge and resources together in one place.
anyways, i'm looking forward to what you guys come up with.

I have no need for a new market, per se.
what I'd love to see is the ability for anyone and everyone to host their own apk repository and a more robust package management system on the device
apt, yum, emerge, port, w/e
anyone working on something like that? can I help?

i like the idea there are a few devs that i would like to the ability to block seeing apps from, Khalid Shaik, and RSD themes, to name two. both "Developers" are just using the market as a money making scheme, and it's rdiculous to put out ten apps a day to try and milk money from unsespecting souls. i spoke to RSD personally about slowing down his output of "apps"(mostly ahome and openhome themes) and he said that he would do no such thing because he makes $1500 a month. he then offered to make me a theme and i was downright insulted. i like the idea the android market has of being able to email the devs whenever we look at the app, it makes asking question a whole lot easier.
and possibly a way to mark certain apps as spam if the dev is posting ten soundboard/fart apps a day and with enough users posting the dev/apps as spam the dev can recieve one warning to slow down on releasing his/her apps or be taken off the market

bmfc187 said:
Im kinda on the fence on the "blacklist" issue. On one hand, it is the right of the developer to develop applications for this platform, and to release his/her work on the market to be used/previewed/rated/commented/purchased by other users. It is also their right to be paid for their efforts. On the other hand, I certainly agree that assaulting the market with 10 different $5 slideshows a day, is verging on MALICIOUS. Seriously, ive never even DOWNLOADED anything put out by Khalid Shaik, yet im sure that none of these slideshows take more than 15 or 20 minutes to produce, i bet not even that long. And $4.99?!?!?!?!?!?!?! SINCE WHEN is a slideshow about Swine Flu worth $5 bucks?! This guy just wants to take advantage of people who havent caught onto him yet. His apps arent worth FREE, much less actual money...you couldnt pay me enough to download anything from him. It IS NOT the right of ANY developer to flood the market with apps of this nature. If you wanna make a slideshow and put it out on the market thats fine...if you worked harder on it than most, then charge a dollar for it...thats fine, too... But dont put out the same damn app 16 times, only with the sounds and images changed, and expect that you have the right to charge $5 bucks apiece again and again and again for the same lame crap.
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TruLuvNvrDies said:
i like this idea, possible features:
o a root/dev component where devs can post beta releases of apps for root phones to be tested and used by advanced g1 users without it being buried, which tends to happen in the android market.
o a tagging feature for apps in addition to categories for easier searching.
o maybe in addition to apps, this can be a place to download roms and stuff.
o a separate widget category or maybe have a section for categorized apps and a section for categorized widgets.
as far as actual implementation you can do it a couple of ways:
1)an actual market app, like the android market
2)maybe easier to pull off initially, a well organized, mobile ready website
3)i personally think a widget component would be cool, paired with either one of the earlier options. the widget could give people recently added apps, updates on existing apps or in preferred categories/tags, and people can use the widget to navigate to a website or a corresponding app.
i think this would be a good opportunity for a community of experienced users like xda to pool a lot of knowledge and resources together in one place.
anyways, i'm looking forward to what you guys come up with.
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tubaking182 said:
i like the idea there are a few devs that i would like to the ability to block seeing apps from, Khalid Shaik, and RSD themes, to name two. both "Developers" are just using the market as a money making scheme, and it's rdiculous to put out ten apps a day to try and milk money from unsespecting souls. i spoke to RSD personally about slowing down his output of "apps"(mostly ahome and openhome themes) and he said that he would do no such thing because he makes $1500 a month. he then offered to make me a theme and i was downright insulted. i like the idea the android market has of being able to email the devs whenever we look at the app, it makes asking question a whole lot easier.
and possibly a way to mark certain apps as spam if the dev is posting ten soundboard/fart apps a day and with enough users posting the dev/apps as spam the dev can recieve one warning to slow down on releasing his/her apps or be taken off the market
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I totally agree with you guys.

i like the idea there are a few devs that i would like to the ability to block seeing apps from, Khalid Shaik, and RSD themes, to name two. both "Developers" are just using the market as a money making scheme, and it's rdiculous to put out ten apps a day to try and milk money from unsespecting souls. i spoke to RSD personally about slowing down his output of "apps"(mostly ahome and openhome themes) and he said that he would do no such thing because he makes $1500 a month. he then offered to make me a theme and i was downright insulted. i like the idea the android market has of being able to email the devs whenever we look at the app, it makes asking question a whole lot easier.
and possibly a way to mark certain apps as spam if the dev is posting ten soundboard/fart apps a day and with enough users posting the dev/apps as spam the dev can recieve one warning to slow down on releasing his/her apps or be taken off the market
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1,500 bucks? I don't know why someone like these sound boards ? It's really suck. 1 buck for some sounds which I can get free from internet.

I agree. I would like to see Cydia ported to G1. I have been working on getting Apt running. The part I am not sure of is building a UI for it. This was easier on the iPhone because the apps like cydia were native and not in a vm like on Android.

Thanks for all the support guys....now all we need are some more developers...anyone wanna help us?

possibly available as web developer
I'm not sure where you need more help, phone vs. web development. I may be able to help out in either case though. you can contact me at [my.xda-devs.username]@gmail.com on google talk or by email.
As far as features/requests:
This should be 100% for non paid applications, IMO. I agree with other posters that it only hurts application distribution by adding a new paid app store. Especially because I think t-mobile's 30% is quite reasonable as a distribution cost.
Instead, this app should focus on delivering the type of software that people develop here on xda-devs.
I don't think you need to black list any developers. By only offering free applications through this market, you automatically get rid of most of that spam, and instead promote more sharing. Developers already have a good place to spam crappy applications for money. The purpose here should be for homebrew/expirimental applications and to promote more community hacking.
Keeping this application open source would definitely help with the "for the community by the community" mantra.
Just my two cents..
Best Regards,
Nick

I totally agree with the idea. But I think it would be difficult to implement paid apps because they are updated through the market.

Autobots roll out

My asus and my four year old inspired me to publish my first android app: Removed the name till OP informs me what he wants too do . Impress no one at the coffee shop when you go from laptop to tablet and the sound of your favorite childhood toys transforming emerges.
Are you geek enough?
can't post a link as a noob but if you are the kind of person who wants an app like this then chances are you are capable of finding it in the android market.

jerarts said:
My asus and my four year old inspired me to publish my first android app: Androidabot Transformer. Impress no one at the coffee shop when you go from laptop to tablet and the sound of your favorite childhood toys transforming emerges.
Are you geek enough?
can't post a link as a noob but if you are the kind of person who wants an app like this then chances are you are capable of finding it in the android market.
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I was waiting for someone to make this

Cool idea...

Others sounds?

We have a small issue.
You can not publish too an app that has too be bought
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I thought about making it configurable to switch from cartoon transform sound to the movie one. I had a version that was my kid saying "doot doot doot doot" which was awesome for no one but his parents. Other ideas? I guess I could just make it so that you could point it to your own sound file easy enough.

Sorry about that Mikey. I'm sure I probably clicked through those rules somewhere without reading them close enough (or at all ).
I'm fine with leaving the edit you made as is, or whatever. I would like to keep the thread open to continue to get feedback about the applet if possible.
Thanks!

jerarts said:
Sorry about that Mikey. I'm sure I probably clicked through those rules somewhere without reading them close enough (or at all ).
I'm fine with leaving the edit you made as is, or whatever. I would like to keep the thread open to continue to get feedback about the applet if possible.
Thanks!
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or make a free version for xda users or separate the app on the market with a donation app for the main app

can anyone tell me about their experience with these donation apps? Does anyone actually donate?

funny. How about Optimus saying "Autobots, Roll Out"? Cartoon version, not the movie!

jerarts said:
can anyone tell me about their experience with these donation apps? Does anyone actually donate?
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If the app or live wallpaper is worth it, also if i keep it on my phone for more then 4 days, yes i will hit up their donation link.
Most of them are .99-1.49.......that in no means will break me.
Or link the donation in the settings menu of your app.

I never made much with the donation approach. The freemium (free version / premium paid version) model works pretty well though.
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shamwich said:
funny. How about Optimus saying "Autobots, Roll Out"? Cartoon version, not the movie!
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sure, why not both?

bedoig said:
I never made much with the donation approach. The freemium (free version / premium paid version) model works pretty well though.
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Haha, I guess I'd have to come up with some more features before that was an option. How about embedding AdMob and the like? Any experience/luck with that model?

Depends on the type of app. I'm guessing your user wouldn't spend much time in the app other than changing a few settings. I have an app that's similar (basically just an on/off switch for a function), and it makes essentially nothing from adds. It has around 25k users, but over the last four months or so I've made about $15 from ads.
On the other hand, ads can be an incentive to upgrade to the premium, ad-free version.
I'd say add extra sound effects, remove the ads, and sell the premium version for a buck. In my experience, one dollar is the psychological barrier where the user has to be really convinced how awesome something is to spend any more.

bedoig said:
Depends on the type of app. I'm guessing your user wouldn't spend much time in the app other than changing a few settings. I have an app that's similar (basically just an on/off switch for a function), and it makes essentially nothing from adds. It has around 25k users, but over the last four months or so I've made about $15 from ads.
On the other hand, ads can be an incentive to upgrade to the premium, ad-free version.
I'd say add extra sound effects, remove the ads, and sell the premium version for a buck. In my experience, one dollar is the psychological barrier where the user has to be really convinced how awesome something is to spend any more.
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Thanks for the tips! Good point about not spending time in the app. When enabled my service launches itself on startup so I was thinking I could throw an add in users face then.
FWIW I tried the flip side of AdMob (advertising through them) and didn't notice even the slightest bump in sales. Have you had any better luck with that?

Can u add the ability to choose our own sound?
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jerarts said:
Haha, I guess I'd have to come up with some more features before that was an option.
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Just a suggestion, perhaps have as free the bare basic 1 sound, one function, then premium gives more sounds and the ability to add your own. And then possibly add sounds to more functions (if possible) such as screen on, or hinge up or down, stuff like that.

KeeperXV said:
Just a suggestion, perhaps have as free the bare basic 1 sound, one function, then premium gives more sounds and the ability to add your own. And then possibly add sounds to more functions (if possible) such as screen on, or hinge up or down, stuff like that.
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Good suggestions. I'm thinking I'll def'ly add more sounds since I've had several requests for that now. I'm trying to decide if the set-your-own-sound feature should belong to a new app, since this one is transformer themed, and that would make it more general purpose.

Never tried advertising through admob. If I ever make enough money from admob to buy a campaign I might try advertising. Might take awhile, lol.
I'd be careful about introducing ads outside of your own UI. Personally, I don't think an app that I'm not actively using should have the right to show me ads. I know apps have gotten banned from the market for doing similar. There's even some company that offers a drop in solution for creating notification bar ads outside of your app; seems a bit shady to me.
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Android APP Developer needed 50/50 revenue split

Android APP developer needed
$150 Good Faith base once project is started and then Revenue Share 50/50 Split
Already have desktop website with 10,000 Members , 100,000 Monthly Uniques to our website and 1 million page views...so a Base of Buyers is already in Place on top of Android Market
Fuel Stations locator Map (and list view) ..with Prices
User should see x amount of Stations in a select-able radius
User should either be able to Login/or register
User should then be able to Post Prices
Members can have Favorites list
odds and ends
Already have database ..and hopefully you can just reuse some coding from the websites pages
I have neither the talent , time , energy or money to do this on my own.. essentially looking for someone to develop and maintain the APP side of our Business as their "baby" and simply handle the odd and end issues that arise , basic maintenance , keeping the APP updated as Android is updated etc ...
I provide database / data / members TRAFFIC ..
So a nice 50/50 split
Anyone interested in a revenue share on a APP project like this please PM me
Thanks !

Are you allowed to post ads like this here? I take this down just a safe.
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thelowend said:
Are you allowed to post ads like this here? I take this down just a safe.
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That's kind of funny lowend.. I am offering to pay for a service and your not sure if that's allowed.. but it is allowed to ask fro free work on xda..(handful of developers and a whole bunch of us looking for /demanding the next free release of xyz ..me included)
I know what you mean though I didn't see a "marketplace" or" Developers for Hire"..so posted here and let the Moderators sort it out.. what ever they need to do is fine..

There is a job listing in the marketplace might want to try there
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What's good in the appstore?

So, I'm creating this thread for a couple reasons.
1. I have an abundance of google play credit, but have everything I really need already.
2. Hopefully other newbies or seasoned vets can come here to find hidden gems.
I have some excess google play credit to spend. Question is, what do I want? Maybe a bunch of games? I'm really considering just spending it to help support some committed devs. Question is, who or what?
Maybe there's an app that I simply overlooked that I'll be kicking myself over if I spend it foolishly.
Recommendations please
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most of it is s*** games.
i only use apps in the utility section. most seem like there for little kids.
Use AppLock to lock apps so nosy people cant open them.

I don't buy a lot of apps but like the previous post I mainly use utility apps.
Network signal apps are always handy when you're trying to figure out which tower you're hitting and the signal you coming through on. This information is especially useful if you are have a technical issue and need to get tech support involved. I find they do push back a little when you start overloading them with a bunch of information the average user doesn't have but being armed with information helps expedite resolving issues.
I recently started using a TV app. It's a preloaded app that has a built-in channel guide. The app also lets me use the phone as a TV remote.
With the number of available apps you just need to think about your daily life and see if there are any things you do a lot that there might be an app for that.

It looks like a little strange to me. Many many people don't buy paid apps because of the money and the payment policy. But, you are here looking for "How to spend my Google play credit to something worthy". Sorry I can't help you. There are few suggestions but I guess you've already check these out, Dynamic watch, Better battery stat, smart keyboard, pro compass, some launcher maybe....

Rickyzx said:
It looks like a little strange to me. Many many people don't buy paid apps because of the money and the payment policy. But, you are here looking for "How to spend my Google play credit to something worthy". Sorry I can't help you. There are few suggestions but I guess you've already check these out, Dynamic watch, Better battery stat, smart keyboard, pro compass, some launcher maybe....
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@Cheetohz as it seems that you want to spent some bucks have a look HERE

What is the best Parental Control app?

(this is not a commercial thread)
I'm a father of two and they have been using the net since young age as I think the sooner they would understand the dangers and the positives it would be better than delaying the inevitable.
The backslash was that the oldest gain too much knowleged and has been online not behaving well.
I've surf around the XDA and Google and have not found an actual Android app that is cost effective and actually reliable enought to allow them to continue without supervision of all what they do.
Any suggestions out there, even from the more "dark side" ?
What I've found so far and a few comments on my opinion:
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I tend to go to the highstermobi app but not sure if there could be a better app with the missing features this one has.
Any comments or additional suggestions are so welcome!

according to Forum Rules
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Don’t use XDA to advertise your product or service. Proprietors of for-pay products or services, may use XDA to get feedback, provide beta access, or a free version of their product for XDA users and to offer support, but not to post with the intention of selling. This includes promoting sites similar / substantially similar to XDA-Developers.com.
Do not post press releases, announcements, links to trial software or commercial services, unless you’re posting an exclusive release for XDA-Developers.com.
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I know you stated
(this is not a commercial thread)
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but it looks like it

xanthrax said:
according to Forum Rules
I know you stated
but it looks like it
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I understand, that is why I posted saying non commercial, how to you suggest me to make this question?
I definitely have no affiliation with any of this companies and actually I'm looking for something other than this as these do not fullfill my goal.
I can erase the reference to all apps. I wanted to avoid members to say "I did not google or search around".
Thanks for the help!

pauloviegas said:
(this is not a commercial thread)
I'm a father of two and they have been using the net since young age as I think the sooner they would understand the dangers and the positives it would be better than delaying the inevitable.
The backslash was that the oldest gain too much knowleged and has been online not behaving well.
I've surf around the XDA and Google and have not found an actual Android app that is cost effective and actually reliable enought to allow them to continue without supervision of all what they do.
Any suggestions out there, even from the more "dark side" ?
What I've found so far and a few comments on my opinion:
mod edit - paid services links and descriptions removed
I tend to go to the highstermobi app but not sure if there could be a better app with the missing features this one has.
Any comments or additional suggestions are so welcome!
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Here is the issue that you will face. In many places apps like the ones you want are deemed illegal. Even if installing on your child's device. Might want to look into the laws where you are.
Apps like that are also not allowed to be talked about here so I hate to say it but you won't be finding any help on the matter here.
As a parent of twin teen boys. All I can say is sometimes you have to let them learn things on their own. You can't protect them forever.

pauloviegas said:
I understand, that is why I posted saying non commercial, how to you suggest me to make this question?
I definitely have no affiliation with any of this companies and actually I'm looking for something other than this as these do not fullfill my goal.
I can erase the reference to all apps. I wanted to avoid members to say "I did not google or search around".
Thanks for the help!
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you can discuss about this apps but not linking them as you did with prices as well, are you interested on the price or usability , I would say the last so you can discuss about this. You already have an advice above so you can get feedback without linking them

zelendel said:
Here is the issue that you will face. In many places apps like the ones you want are deemed illegal. Even if installing on your child's device. Might want to look into the laws where you are.
Apps like that are also not allowed to be talked about here so I hate to say it but you won't be finding any help on the matter here.
As a parent of twin teen boys. All I can say is sometimes you have to let them learn things on their own. You can't protect them forever.
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Thanks for the time to reply. You're right on all comments, but one is always afraid, specially because they are pre-teen.
Thanks.

pauloviegas said:
Thanks for the time to reply. You're right on all comments, but one is always afraid, specially because they are pre-teen.
Thanks.
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The one that has gained knowledge from using the Internet would probably circumvent anything you did anyway, in a way, your plan would only fuel his fire to learn more to bypass whatever you do, so in effect, you'd be pushing him the direction you don't want him to go even faster than if you just left it alone. With that particular child, you'd have to completely restrict their access to the internet, which is virtually impossible in today's world.
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Droidriven said:
The one that has gained knowledge from using the Internet would probably circumvent anything you did anyway, in a way, your plan would only fuel his fire to learn more to bypass whatever you do, so in effect, you'd be pushing him the direction you don't want him to go even faster than if you just left it alone. With that particular child, you'd have to completely restrict their access to the internet, which is virtually impossible in today's world.
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Exactly. Not to mention that with the schools and topics of learning these days. They probably already know how to bypass it. I was amazed the first time I caught my boys sending messages encrypted in their pictures. When I asked where they learned it, they learned it in school. This is when came to understand that there was nothing I could really do about it.
We always want our kids to surpass us. Which they normally do but that comes with some hard pills to swallow as a parent lol.