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1 click root app?

Is there any 1 click root apps for the thunderbolt yet like universal root or z4 type app?
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No. There are "easy" root apps for Windows (and some scripts for Mac/Linux) available...
I am not sure if there will be a one-click app for quite some time. If you read the process for rooting you will understand that you are required to downgrade the firmware in order to obtain permanent root (through an exploit).

I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.

dsvoda said:
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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I disagree. I understand and believe that people should learn what they are doing before they begin but there are some people out there who just want to remove bloat. Nothing else. And for those people, I think a 1 click root should be available. I went through probably 2 or 3 hours learning how and why to do the root method on this phone after doing the same thing on my old phone (Droid X) because I plan on doing so much with it I want to know exactly what is going on. People like me, should go through the comprehensive root so we have far less "I flashed ____ and bricked my phone what do I do?!?!?!?!1" but for people who just want to remove bloat or use tethering should once again not have to spend hours figuring out what adb is/does.
And even if everyone in the community learns the "technichal" stuff many of them aren't going to help out anyone else. They are going to root, ROM, and GTFO.

miketoasty said:
I disagree. I understand and believe that people should learn what they are doing before they begin but there are some people out there who just want to remove bloat. Nothing else. And for those people, I think a 1 click root should be available. I went through probably 2 or 3 hours learning how and why to do the root method on this phone after doing the same thing on my old phone (Droid X) because I plan on doing so much with it I want to know exactly what is going on. People like me, should go through the comprehensive root so we have far less "I flashed ____ and bricked my phone what do I do?!?!?!?!1" but for people who just want to remove bloat or use tethering should once again not have to spend hours figuring out what adb is/does.
And even if everyone in the community learns the "technichal" stuff many of them aren't going to help out anyone else. They are going to root, ROM, and GTFO.
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All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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dsvoda said:
All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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I wasn't arguing with you just as you said I was stating my opinion.
And the difference between running through an hour long rooting process and a 20 minute 1 click root is, well it's quite obvious what the difference is. Also, we know nothing is perfect that's why everything out there (ROMs, kernels, rooting methods, etc) all have liability warnings, the same as 1 click roots.

dsvoda said:
All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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I don't really have a desire to learn ADB so I won't, but I will still root my phone.
Actually, if I absolutely HAD to learn to use ADB to root, I probably would, then I would promptly forget what I've learned since I'd probably never use it again, until it came time to root my next phone. So I don't see the point, just respectfully disagreeing and sharing my opinion
I use a MAC and a PC and I've built PC's, but I really don't care to learn how all the background s/ware stuff works, but I can add components like a mad-woman.

Thats exactly what I want to do. Just remove the tons of crap that came built in. A one click root solution would be a lifesaver.
The current root methods are way too complicated for me.

yumms said:
Thats exactly what I want to do. Just remove the tons of crap that came built in. A one click root solution would be a lifesaver.
The current root methods are way too complicated for me.
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would this help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292

dsvoda said:
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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Yeah, totally... and we should stop using push button car ignitions and even key starts. People should have to poor gas in their carburetors and hand pump up the pressure and crack start it. This way people will better understand how the engine works in case they need to work on it after a break down.
What about lighters and stoves!? 1 click to start a fire, wtf? 2 stick method I say, do people even realize what fire is and where it comes from these days?
Than there's Velcro shoes... omg!

hogowner said:
would this help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292
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Thanks for that. The second link looks promising. I'll need to try that tonight.

For the love of God... not another effing debate about one-click solutions and learning ADB. Noob this, noob that... developer this, developer that.
The ultimate point is that nobody is entitled to anything... but once a solution has been developed in an open community, nobody is prohibited from using it based upon their level of experience.
I personally feel that it is beneficial to know how the root method works, but there are people who could care less and just want to root their device without fully understanding the process/risks/technicalities.
The bottom line is that they are free to do this and they are "allowed" to use one-click root solutions without having technical knowledge or understanding what ADB is!
/end_rant

Well what good is root at this point? The radio has issues, the camcorder app is bunked, txt app is wishy washy, ringtones for specific contacts switches, etc. I am waiting on root at this point! I have rooted every android phone I have had and this one just seems to flake with root at this time. I still don't understand wth it's doing! If I had a clue, I would write a one click. Just makes it less of a head ache if you have more than one tb to do. And you won't have noobs pop up asking wth did I do wrong. And yes I'm a noob too, but I also read b4 I venture into the unknown. I still say if u wanna learn go buy a book and if ya don't understand it then ask. Why not just put a noob section on each device forum? Let people help the ones that can't do it on their own. Heck make it a mandatory $10 donation fee if ya gotta have someone show you what to do. Seems like no one here has ever had to ask for help. I fix my father's car, not because I really want to. Just because if he does it, it won't ever run again. He ain't got a clue! Some people just aren't able to understand things like others. Be nice and quit bashing noobs.
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hammer4203 said:
Well what good is root at this point? The radio has issues, the camcorder app is bunked, txt app is wishy washy, ringtones for specific contacts switches, etc. I am waiting on root at this point! I have rooted every android phone I have had and this one just seems to flake with root at this time. I still don't understand wth it's doing! If I had a clue, I would write a one click. Just makes it less of a head ache if you have more than one tb to do. And you won't have noobs pop up asking wth did I do wrong. And yes I'm a noob too, but I also read b4 I venture into the unknown. I still say if u wanna learn go buy a book and if ya don't understand it then ask. Why not just put a noob section on each device forum? Let people help the ones that can't do it on their own. Heck make it a mandatory $10 donation fee if ya gotta have someone show you what to do. Seems like no one here has ever had to ask for help. I fix my father's car, not because I really want to. Just because if he does it, it won't ever run again. He ain't got a clue! Some people just aren't able to understand things like others. Be nice and quit bashing noobs.
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Even rooting w/o flashing a new custom ROM is causing issues?

From what I have seen even just straight root causes issues. I really prefer root without flashing a lot of extra. Simple and to the point. Gives me access to files without the head ache of something going wrong.
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hammer4203 said:
From what I have seen even just straight root causes issues. I really prefer root without flashing a lot of extra. Simple and to the point. Gives me access to files without the head ache of something going wrong.
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I rooted to stock and ran that for almost a week before flashing a rom. I had no issues whatsoever.
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Is it assumed that there will never be a true easy 1-click root solution for this phone?
I am on my last week of eligibility to return this phone and if there will not be the same kind of support for this phone from the dev community, then I would like to know so that I can return it.

MoxJr said:
Is it assumed that there will never be a true easy 1-click root solution for this phone?
I am on my last week of eligibility to return this phone and if there will not be the same kind of support for this phone from the dev community, then I would like to know so that I can return it.
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There is already a ton of support and development for this phone. There are several ROMS and kernels already, and the root process is very easy to do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how ADB works. Frankly, if you feel like you deserve to have superuser access to a *IX operating system then damnit you should know what the hell you're doing; that's just my 2 cents though. I wouldn't just turn over root access to my server rack to someone who doesn't understand and appreciate the responsibility of unfettered access to the operating system.
That being said, I am of the mindset that everyone should take the opportunity to learn how these systems work, and would gladly help anyone willing to do so. I have loved Unix based operating systems ever since I got my hands on the first release of Slackware Linux, love the BSDs, and have a lot of fun using Solaris.

nerozehl said:
There is already a ton of support and development for this phone. There are several ROMS and kernels already, and the root process is very easy to do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how ADB works. Frankly, if you feel like you deserve to have superuser access to a *IX operating system then damnit you should know what the hell you're doing; that's just my 2 cents though. I wouldn't just turn over root access to my server rack to someone who doesn't understand and appreciate the responsibility of unfettered access to the operating system.
That being said, I am of the mindset that everyone should take the opportunity to learn how these systems work, and would gladly help anyone willing to do so. I have loved Unix based operating systems ever since I got my hands on the first release of Slackware Linux, love the BSDs, and have a lot of fun using Solaris.
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Sorry but I'm just looking for something like unrevoked for the T-bolt. I only need it to remove all the bloat, not trying to do anything too fancy.

MoxJr said:
Sorry but I'm just looking for something like unrevoked for the T-bolt. I only need it to remove all the bloat, not trying to do anything too fancy.
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I understand totally wanting to get the bloat off the phone; that's something I think every owner wants, lol.

One Click Root App

Any chance of a One Click Root App being developed to eliminate the multiple steps of rooting our Thunderbolts currently? WOuld make like that much more easier for the ones not too comfortable in the current process.

mrwebb said:
Any chance of a One Click Root App being developed to eliminate the multiple steps of rooting our Thunderbolts currently? WOuld make like that much more easier for the ones not too comfortable in the current process.
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not to flame but really if you are messing around with root/recovery/roms/kernels/etc being able to execute a few commands in a terminal should be considered the bare minimum of competency

A) search is your friend
B) there is a windows program available, I think its in the stickys.
Edit: yep. It's in the stickys. Look up a few threads.
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nitsuj17 said:
not to flame but really if you are messing around with root/recovery/roms/kernels/etc being able to execute a few commands in a terminal should be considered the bare minimum of competency
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^^^ +1 Very true..and although its almost impossible to brick your phone nowadays you definitely need to know how to use sum type of commands just in case you do happen to mess you phone up...not saying you will BUT theres always that chance...

It's so easy. If you follow all of the steps properly literally NOTHING can go wrong. It's kind of frustrating to see all this posts pop up when smart people have given you step by step guides for root.
If you don't understand enough to copy and paste commands into command line, the last thing you need to worry about is root.

It's not the first time I've used cmd but it is the first time I used ADB and honestly, it was simple. There is a step by step tutorial, what else could you possibly want?

i think that the biggest problem for most people is the fact that setting up sdk and getting the nerve to take the leap to adb commands takes alot of know how that a lot of people on here take for granted. At one point in time we all were f'n n00bs.
I just get extremely tired of seeing people being asshats about helping others. Hell I am a noob just getting started to.
But on the other hand you can't help stoopid, and I agree most problems can be resolved with a few solid moments of reading and brain work.
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no idea why this is posted in development.
If you can't run a few shell commands, then are you ready to root your phone? If something were to miraculously go wrong, you NEED to be familiar with your shell to recover.
Don't root until you know about how to flash partitions on a device. It's all well and good to use a one-click batch script, but come on... Rooting is a risky process. What if the power to your PC were to cut out while flashing? What if Windows were to crash?
Learn to use commands yourself, rather than using a one-click button... You learn nothing by pressing buttons. You learn by reading commands, working out what they do, and doing them yourself
Moved to general btw

dude really just do it the old fashion way. ive rooted a G1, N1 and now a TB. its so simple and easy. literally. took me less than 30 minutes to do the whole thing. all i did was a lot of copy and pasting into the terminal. i could have gotten my 7 year old nephew to do this for me

As I said be 4, its just the terminology that scares people. I am a newbie but didn't take long to get my phone rooted. Words like "push" this file vs copy & paste. Or "terminal" vs command window. I am glad I did not use any one click solutions I would be in even more darkness.
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The method of root using ADB is by far the most reliable way of rooting the thunderbolt. Unfortunately a "one click" root solution is bad in my opinion because you need to know whats actually happening when you are rooting your phone. If you need assistance send me a PM and I can guide you through the process of getting root on your t-bolt. I already helped one person do it and now he understands better how to use ADB and what needs to happen to root your phone. ADB is useful in so many different ways when you have an android phone its definitely worth figuring it out. Just my $.02

To All Who Use Easy Root Methods

Stop getting angry when we do not want to help you fix the problem you are having. Seriously, quit it. You are warned left and right that you may not or will not get support for it. The simple fact is that auto/easy root methods are too questionable. It leaves you in the dark when something goes wrong. We cannot easily figure out what happened, why it happened, or what exactly the issue is because it is automatic. I'm annoyed at the amount of users who go onto IRC begging for help and start freaking out on us because YOU wanted the easy way out. It doesn't take more then a Google search to learn exactly what to do, what it is doing, and how it works for the manual root method. I can only speak for myself but I'm plenty sure other members can agree and attest to this. I, myself, spend more time helping lazy/scared people FIX their phones BECAUSE of an easy root method then doing any real development! And when I decline to, the AndIRC chatroom becomes a hated place and gets bashed on. Use at your own risk. Enjoy.
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If you don't want to help, don't help. People have every right to ask for help and if they freak out on you for not helping, ignore them. All you're doing by posting this thread is returning the sarcasm and snarkyness that you're accusing them of dishing out.

No no no. ProTekk is 1000% right on this. I get tired of lazy assholes on IRC who want to be spoon fed.
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Tbh, this wasn't an "I'm better and smarter than you" post. It was meant to be a clear and valid warning to all. In no way was I trying to come off as snarky or a know it all. If you take this the wrong way then maybe you need to.reread this and start over again.
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Oh, also, I explain in detail why and what my reasoning is. Don't start flaming buddy
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I agree 100%.
There are a lot of new people moving into android with this phone, and a lot of progress has been made through development inthe few weeks it has been out.
People really need to slow down, and read before jumping. I think that was proven this morning...good one Jcase
I've had a rooted phone for over a year now, been through roms like mad, but still get nervous and re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
Take your time people, read, re-read, ask questions, then flash, your phones not going anywhere unless you do something dumb and end up with a brick....which would more than likely be your fault if it happens.

Bimmer323 said:
I agree 100%.
There are a lot of new people moving into android with this phone, and a lot of progress has been made through development inthe few weeks it has been out.
People really need to slow down, and read before jumping. I think that was proven this morning...good one Jcase
I've had a rooted phone for over a year now, been through roms like mad, but still get nervous and re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
Take your time people, read, re-read, ask questions, then flash, your phones not going anywhere unless you do something dumb and end up with a brick....which would more than likely be your fault if it happens.
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Forgot about the questions. They.are more than welcome if it is about rooting. Ask away. We share knowledge. We don't hoard it and say go home. Glad to see some voices in here besides mine.
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Completely agree with protekk. Devs can not help you if they don't know the exact process of rooting went wrong if you use a "1 click" method. Using the process put out by jcase a person can start over or even go back to the prior step. The process jcase put out was a step by step (copy & paste commands) process. I am no better than any of you, but I can read and follow simple instructions, and in doing so have gotten a good understanding of adb. As for getting help, I have never had a problem with getting help, even when I started.
When rooting or flashing, you need to read, read, read, read, until you are comfortable with the instructions. Xda has info to getting everything setup and running. Research before you flash or root.

+1 man. I've only had my Thunderbolt for a few days and ended up deciding to root manually because I wanted to know what was going on, step by step. It's taking a little time to get used to CWM coming from the Eris where I've used Amon Ra's recovery.
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I've noticed a trend of folks really beating up on the dev's. Guys, our dev's do this for free or donations. Some even insist that we donate to the homeless or our favorite charity. You're not paying for support, these guys do what they do out of love and commitment to the community. Please remember this before you log onto IRC or make a new thread. The dev's have gone through a lot of trouble to learn these systems and write scripts for you, usually through reverse engineering and a lot of time. Respect their time by searching first.
Additionally, if you need help - please and thank you goes a long way. So do logcats and output from the screens that you're currently working with
Now, back to your regularly scheduled discussion.
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All I'm saying is I remember a lot of people complaining about jcase, not wanting a 1 click root released . He wanted people to know what was being done and how to do it. And people complained saying he had no right. I believe this is why he didn't want it released to soon. Damn I hate mind readers. Lol
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"ProTekk is 1000% right on this."
"+1"
If someone doesn't want to put in the time to understand what is going on and the processes taken to make it happen they shouldn't even bother rooting.

This is my first android phone ever. I have successfully rooted it on both a mac and pc. I followed the instructions and learned how to use adb (nothing fancy of course). If I can learn others can too.
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Thats a good point OP.
The method posted by JCASE is so simple that anyone should be able to do it.
1) Install drivers for your phone
2)copy files to your ADB directory and to your phone SD card
3)Open a command prompt
4)Copy and paste a bunch of ADB commands
5)Put the other PG05IMG.BIN on your phone
6)Copy and paste some more adb commands
7)Download a few market apps
8)Success
I mean where is that difficult? Its basically spoon fed. If you don't have the ability to copy files to your phones SD card, copy and paste commands into a DOS prompt, follow clear instructions, and install driver software for your phone, then you probably shouldn't bother doing anything. I don't even consider myself an ADB pro, I learned how to use some of it with my MOTO Droid and I still don't know what a bunch of the commands are. I know how to push files to my phone, how to pull files from my phone, and some other misc commands.

I agree. I was frustrated sure. Took me another 7 tries and a few different methods. But in the end I was the one responsible. I could have chose to give up , but because I didn't want to be left behind I kept learning and trying. I finally got it last night. It even feels better knowing how much trial and error I had to try. Makes me appreciate it more.
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TNS201 said:
Thats a good point OP.
The method posted by JCASE is so simple that anyone should be able to do it.
1) Install drivers for your phone
2)copy files to your ADB directory and to your phone SD card
3)Open a command prompt
4)Copy and paste a bunch of ADB commands
5)Put the other PG05IMG.BIN on your phone
6)Copy and paste some more adb commands
7)Download a few market apps
8)Success
I mean where is that difficult? Its basically spoon fed. If you don't have the ability to copy files to your phones SD card, copy and paste commands into a DOS prompt, follow clear instructions, and install driver software for your phone, then you probably shouldn't bother doing anything. I don't even consider myself an ADB pro, I learned how to use some of it with my MOTO Droid and I still don't know what a bunch of the commands are. I know how to push files to my phone, how to pull files from my phone, and some other misc commands.
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I'm considering moving to Android, possibly the Thunderbolt. I'm experienced with flashing custom ROMs to WinMo 6.X phones, but that's not a root process (at least not on any phones I've owned), it's a simple process of connecting the device tp a PC via USB, launching a program on the PC, clicking a few buttons and restarting the phone. Done.
Coming from that simplcity, the rooting process looks kinda daunting, but not impossible. I've been reading as much as I can in different forums, but without having the phone in front of me and trying it out, I'm not understanding the process.
For instance, "Open a command prompt." Is this on a connected PC, or directly on the phone? If on the phone, how do I get to a command prompt on it?
I guess I'd like to ask the knowledgeable folks here for a website they'd recommend for an absolute beginner to bone up before attempting his first root? Or multiple sites, where I can not only read how it's done, but what is actually happening at each step. I know my way around Windows pretty well (up to XP anyway), but have no idea when it comes to Linux.
As to folks who dork up their phones while trying to root/modify - the devs are offering their knowledge, free of charge. You aren't being forced to root, it's your choice and ultimately your responsibility. I've seen the occasional Sp.Ed. flip out because his phone bricked while flashing a WinMo custom ROM that someone spent many hours working on and tweaking. Not often, I'm glad to say - most folks are grateful for the effort.

This was my first android phone, and initially I was too scared to do the manual method. But, I manned up and decided to do it, and to be honest, it was simple. After that, I tried reading all the threads and being active in the community. That's the thing with attaining knowledge, you have to be proactive. Read through everything, and often. Don't just ask questions only when it pertains to your problem, because from what I've seen, it's always answered in some thread.
tl,dr:The gist, just be proactive. read read read

tedkord said:
I'm considering moving to Android, possibly the Thunderbolt. I'm experienced with flashing custom ROMs to WinMo 6.X phones, but that's not a root process (at least not on any phones I've owned), it's a simple process of connecting the device tp a PC via USB, launching a program on the PC, clicking a few buttons and restarting the phone. Done.
Coming from that simplcity, the rooting process looks kinda daunting, but not impossible. I've been reading as much as I can in different forums, but without having the phone in front of me and trying it out, I'm not understanding the process.
For instance, "Open a command prompt." Is this on a connected PC, or directly on the phone? If on the phone, how do I get to a command prompt on it?
I guess I'd like to ask the knowledgeable folks here for a website they'd recommend for an absolute beginner to bone up before attempting his first root? Or multiple sites, where I can not only read how it's done, but what is actually happening at each step. I know my way around Windows pretty well (up to XP anyway), but have no idea when it comes to Linux.
As to folks who dork up their phones while trying to root/modify - the devs are offering their knowledge, free of charge. You aren't being forced to root, it's your choice and ultimately your responsibility. I've seen the occasional Sp.Ed. flip out because his phone bricked while flashing a WinMo custom ROM that someone spent many hours working on and tweaking. Not often, I'm glad to say - most folks are grateful for the effort.
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look on you tube they have a real nice walk thru you should watch first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc6EMdPpF6o&annotation_id=annotation_68322&feature=iv
thanx nat3mil

Bimmer323 said:
re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
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Ayup. either a long contract or an expensive phone I do not want anything bad to happen to it
with my og droid I would do just about anything to it because that thing was bulletproof and I got buy 1 get 1 free .
my thunder bolt, it's treated with kid gloves
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I have to agree for the most part...I rooted my bolt with the very first method released and it took me quit a while...had to do allot of reading (adb). I got most of my questions answered by going threw the threads.... reading other peoples problems they posted and then the fixes or answers left by knowledgeable forum members. Yes that takes time but it does help...I will vouch for that...lots of knowledge and answers here just have to put in the time.
I think people should be able to ask questions on here...thats part of why the forums are here, but if you ask and you don't get answer it's more than likely you have ask a question that has been asked before...several before's....Its just to basic of a question which could have several answers (not enough info in the question)....or you ask to many questions which means you have not done your home work.
Read and then read some more....google and google some more.....then ask the question....

+1000
People want to be spoon fed - doing things the right way is too hard for them

Auto root.

http://forum.androidcentral.com/thunderbolt-rooting-roms-hacks/77617-auto-root-unroot-windows.html
just passing it along. i know some are afraid to use adb i myself would recommend using it to know the basic of adb but if not well here it is. GL
i do know its a heated debate with auto and manual etc. don't hate the messenger.

I love auto-rooters for myself. I've done 3 different phones via ADB because I wasn't going to wait, but if I lose root for whatever reason, an auto rooter sure is nice.
I think everybody should root via ADB before they ever root with an auto rooter, though.
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Nice find, thank you.

That soft bricked me so I did it manually
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And to think I just did the manual root yesterday.. D'oh! Well, good to learn some of the stuff I did, I guess. Thanks OP for passing it along.
Anyone know if the 'unroot' process will still unroot if you rooted it the manual way?

Thanks will root my phone tomorrow using this
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EgoDogg said:
And to think I just did the manual root yesterday.. D'oh! Well, good to learn some of the stuff I did, I guess. Thanks OP for passing it along.
Anyone know if the 'unroot' process will still unroot if you rooted it the manual way?
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as far as I know, just loading the stock PG05.img (or whatever the name is) in bootloader will return you to stock
and, auto-root is great, but will lead to so many more of the "I bricked my phone" type threads from people that don't know what they are doing...

papi92 said:
That soft bricked me so I did it manually
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Soft bricked your phone? please elaborate on this

I (personally) had no problems. Did you miss a step?

Jaxidian said:
I think everybody should root via ADB before they ever root with an auto rooter
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+1
anyone interested in rooting should know how to access their phone via adb. if the auto root process goes bad, adb is the only tool available

Rooting manually via ADB or rooting via auto root?
That's a discussion folks should flesh out and really chew on. It's not been discussed enough here in the past and is a highly neglected topic that deserves many original posts such as the ones above this one. Let's get this debate going and see if we can tread some new ground.

Sucks
No matter what method of root I try to use it always says device error, so its not connecting, any suggestions?

Old MuckenMire said:
Rooting manually via ADB or rooting via auto root?
That's a discussion folks should flesh out and really chew on. It's not been discussed enough here in the past and is a highly neglected topic that deserves many original posts such as the ones above this one. Let's get this debate going and see if we can tread some new ground.
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I'm still in the "to root or not to root" discussion..

FP5241 said:
I'm still in the "to root or not to root" discussion..
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I hear you. I rooted and flashed the hell out of my Nexus One but have held off with the TB. Rooting and flashing Sense ROMs on my N1 is what made me want the TB in the first place.
That said, I would like to use cache-mate and ad-free. This ROM is also tempting me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013577
I have to hold off tho. They are getting ready to flip the 4G switch in my area soon an I want to be stock when that happens because when I root I want to know how my device is supposed to behave when stock. That way I'll know if an issue I am having is a TB/Verizon issue or a flashed ROM/Kernel/Radio/root issue.
Rooting on the N1 was a no-brainer given the lack of app space and the urgent need for A2SD. Given the ability to move some apps to SD now, plus the TB's extra app storage space, the need for more storage just isn't there for me with the TB. And believe it or not, for me personally, flashing ROMs and kernels got old in and of itself. Every ROM is different, but I can never find the perfect one and always end up wishing I could cherry pick features from a variety of ROMs. I felt like a damn nomad going from one ROM to the next.

Old MuckenMire said:
Rooting manually via ADB or rooting via auto root?
That's a discussion folks should flesh out and really chew on. It's not been discussed enough here in the past and is a highly neglected topic that deserves many original posts such as the ones above this one. Let's get this debate going and see if we can tread some new ground.
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There is nothing to discuss.
If you are doing any type of hack you are doing so at your own risk,assuming all responsibility to anything that may happen to your phone, and you should take it upon yourself to learn, at the very least, the basics of adb and its command functions.
I am attempting to make the process as painless as possible, no where in my thread do i call it easy or simply . I call it auto root because its Automated.
I am not saying im not noob friendly because if you know me you know thats not true i spend many many hours helping people, im just saying that if you are attempting a hack that you should know what you are getting yourself into.
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No matter what method of root I try to use it always says device error, so its not connecting, any suggestions?
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This is a connection problem, make sure HTC sync is installed. Make sure you are in debugging mode and it is set to stay awake, make sure you are in USB setting Charge only. Use the USB ports in the back of the computer
id none of that works, try a different,USB port, cable or different computer.

DroidXcon said:
There is nothing to discuss.
If you are doing any type of hack you are doing so at your own risk,assuming all responsibility to anything that may happen to your phone, and you should take it upon yourself to learn, at the very least, the basics of adb and its command functions.
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It was a joke man. It's been discussed here ad nauseum...plus, don't you think it's a little ironic that you create an auto root app where the user DOES NOT NEED TO LEARN OR USE one single manual ADB command, while at the same time preaching that users should learn ADB?
the only reason you say this stuff is to pay lip service to your developer clique about ADB and noobs, then you turn right around and give noobs a manual ADB free root app.
don't get me wrong, I appreciate it as much as anyone, but the irony is a little thick here.

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It was a joke man. It's been discussed here ad nauseum...plus, don't you think it's a little ironic that you create an auto root app where the user DOES NOT NEED TO LEARN OR USE one single manual ADB command, while at the same time preaching that users should learn ADB?
the only reason you say this stuff is to pay lip service to your developer clique about ADB and noobs, then you turn right around and give noobs a manual ADB free root app.
don't get me wrong, I appreciate it as much as anyone, but the irony is a little thick here.
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this is automated for anyone, where does it say in my thread, this is for noobs?
so because something is posted or because its easy to use its automatically hypcritical? . this is for anyone. i know that if i return to stock that i am not going to want to have to type out every command just to root again.
so if what you are saying it true then no one should post anything that makes the process easy for other people.

Did you install the drivers?
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this is automated for anyone, where does it say in my thread, this is for noobs?
so because something is posted or because its easy to use its automatically . this is for anyone. i know that if i return to stock that i am not going to want to have to type out every command just to root again.
so if what you are saying it true then no one should post anything that makes the process easy for other people.
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Hey man like I said I appreciate it...but some developers on this forum drone on and on about how easy manual ADB is and that there is no need for automated root apps. If you already know ADB there is really no point in the automated app except to save, what, typing??
The automated app still takes almost as long...it just saves typing...and the risk of a mistake. That has been my point all along.
AGAIN, I highly appreciate your app and work...I just wish devs would stop harping on the need to lean ADB when it's not needed thanks to apps like yours. For whatever reason there is this clique of devs who think if you don't know ADB you don't "deserve" root access. It's lame.
But let's be real here: 90% of the users that will use your app are rooting noobs. The experienced users did it manually on day one.

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Hey man like I said I appreciate it...but some developers on this forum drone on and on about how easy manual ADB is and that there is no need for automated root apps. If you already know ADB there is really no point in the automated app except to save, what, typing??
The automated app still takes almost as long...it just saves typing...and the risk of a mistake. That has been my point all along.
AGAIN, I highly appreciate your app and work...I just wish devs would stop harping on the need to lean ADB when it's not needed thanks to apps like yours. For whatever reason there is this clique of devs who think if you don't know ADB you don't "deserve" root access. It's lame.
But let's be real here: 90% of the users that will use your app are rooting noobs. The experienced users did it manually on day one.
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im in no clique of devs i dont even know if anyone likes me lol. im not saying you should be an expert. but you should know how to use adb because at some point a problem may happen and automation doesnt let you trouble shoot very well. Im not hard core either way adb or no adb. but with any hack sometimes the only way to save yourself from a phone becoming useless is through adb..
thanks for the appreciation,,,,oh and not for nothing, i would rather watch a show then have to be putting in line after line of commands , then on commercial i can just flash the ruu

Rooting services on craigslist

Has anyone used these that are adverstised on craigslist? I am to much of a noob to try any rooting process other that a one click so i thought maybe i should let a "pro" do it. I was just wondering if anyone has had negative experiences

microdot said:
Has anyone used these that are adverstised on craigslist? I am to much of a noob to try any rooting process other that a one click so i thought maybe i should let a "pro" do it. I was just wondering if anyone has had negative experiences
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honestly dont.
Its not worth any cost they charge to root your phone. I did a one click method for Droid og, and a three click process for thunderbolt. They work fine, and I know there is a debate on auto or manual root, regardless they both work.
I was like you when I first rooted my droid and was scared of bricking the phone etc. If you follow the steps and just go slow and make sure you have everything downloaded properly, rooting is easy.

What three step process are you refering too? I looked at this post ..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616 which seems to be the method you have to do after that ota update and do be honest that is way over my head.
What about the one click method posted on droid life not too long ago.
.http://www.droid-life.com/2011/03/26/another-one-click-root-method-available-for-htc-thunderbolt/
..would that work?

microdot said:
Has anyone used these that are adverstised on craigslist? I am to much of a noob to try any rooting process other that a one click so i thought maybe i should let a "pro" do it. I was just wondering if anyone has had negative experiences
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We were all noobs at once. read up and Get R done. You can do it.

I did a 3 click method as well. It was before the ota so I can't speak for that link. It was more involved than the unrevoked program for Dinc but it wasn't hard and the best part is iit includes all the adb drivers and files in one neat. Exe

microdot said:
Has anyone used these that are adverstised on craigslist? I am to much of a noob to try any rooting process other that a one click so i thought maybe i should let a "pro" do it. I was just wondering if anyone has had negative experiences
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dude. the method is not hard at ALL. it is all literally copy paste.. if you are too retarded to do that, then dont root your phone at all...

ddarvish said:
dude. the method is not hard at ALL. it is all literally copy paste.. if you are too retarded to do that, then dont root your phone at all...
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That was a little harsh. You were a noob once too, so cut the OP some slack.
Back to topic. I have never used a craigslist ad for rooting & I don't know anyone that has, so I can't vouch for it. But rooting your own phone is the best way to make sure you don't get scammed. Plus, you won't have to rely on someone else every time you get a new phone. Rooting the Tbolt is not hard, you just gotta read everything you can find about it beforehand. If you're still unsure after reading xda forums, watch some youtube demos. If you MUST rely on someone else to root, I would get a knowledgeable friend or coworker to do it before contacting some guy from craigslist. A friend would do it for free, anyway
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Rooting services on Craigslist? You must be thinking of Craigslist Australia.

Nah, I see jailbreaking/rooting ads on houston craigslist all the time. Actually its proly an easy way to make some cash, but I personally wouldn't pay anyone to jack with my phone
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Whoosh.....

mike.s said:
Whoosh.....
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Lol... Anyways, to the op... Rooting is really not that difficult if you just do your homework and follow directions to a tee. I would never allow some random dude on Craigslist to even touch my phone. What would you do if you came across a problem (which eventually you will) and had no idea how to fix it because you couldn't even root your own phone? My suggestion would be to study up and use the manual root method with adb. You will benefit the most from this and learn a lot along the way. Just don't pay somebody else to do of for you, its not that difficult.

I'll root your phone for free. Don't expect it back though. :$
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just watch a you tube video

My friend paid like 20 bucks through paypal to root his Evo Supersonic. It was through one of those cell phone shops.. It worked for him but you should just learn to do it yourself cause you are going to eventually need to learn how to do all this stuff for yourself.

ddarvish said:
dude. the method is not hard at ALL. it is all literally copy paste.. if you are too retarded to do that, then dont root your phone at all...
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Thank you for everyones input. I wont go the craigslist way and just do my homework like suggested. Maybe some dev comes up with a one click method for the ota version
Ddarvis...why so hostile? Did that post make you feel like a big boy? Did you have your big boy pants on? Do you wake up in the mornin' and say, "I'm puttin on my big boy pants. Look, I'm wearin' a belt. I got big boy pants on

The problem with letting someone root your phone is you don't learn how to use the necessary tools to flash roms, themes, create backups and the like. You don't grasp the concept of what could go wrong and what will go wrong.
The biggest thing to know is not how to root your phone but how to fix it when it breaks.
sent from a sweet paper weight.

ibsk8 said:
The problem with letting someone root your phone is you don't learn how to use the necessary tools to flash roms, themes, create backups and the like. You don't grasp the concept of what could go wrong and what will go wrong.
The biggest thing to know is not how to root your phone but how to fix it when it breaks.
sent from a sweet paper weight.
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This.
If I had easy rooted and not taken the time to learn my way around ADB I would have a brick right now. I douched up while I was upgrading to the new Gingersense radio and knowing my way around ADB saved my ass. If you root without knowing what is going on you are asking for a very expensive mistake.

I have to agree with sublimaze... I too see these posts in Houston. This is my first Android and in the beginning, I too was nervous about root process. The 3 click method is actually really easy as long as you take your time and be careful. I went from knowing nothing to rooting 4 tbolts and bringing mine back from a frozen splash screen. Just read man, ask questions and be careful. Not all of us will flame you for asking questions. Good luck bro.

bking_soda said:
I have to agree with sublimaze... I too see these posts in Houston. This is my first Android and in the beginning, I too was nervous about root process. The 3 click method is actually really easy as long as you take your time and be careful. I went from knowing nothing to rooting 4 tbolts and bringing mine back from a frozen splash screen. Just read man, ask questions and be careful. Not all of us will flame you for asking questions. Good luck bro.
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Thank you, i will def study and only do it then when i am comfortable that i have it down. I cant afford any mistakes. Bking_soda, mind if i pm you with question when that time comes. Having done 4 tbolts you are obviously an expert

Definitly worth learning to do yourself, keep in mind there will be mistakes as you go forward, yes it is possible to brick your phone but very hard to a do. Read read read and when you think you have it figured out read some more. The more you do yourself the more you'll understand when you do get a bad flash what you need to do. Dont worry It can almost always be recovered. And most of the smart people in these forums will help and not flame you for asking for it.