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1 click root app?

Is there any 1 click root apps for the thunderbolt yet like universal root or z4 type app?
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No. There are "easy" root apps for Windows (and some scripts for Mac/Linux) available...
I am not sure if there will be a one-click app for quite some time. If you read the process for rooting you will understand that you are required to downgrade the firmware in order to obtain permanent root (through an exploit).

I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.

dsvoda said:
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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I disagree. I understand and believe that people should learn what they are doing before they begin but there are some people out there who just want to remove bloat. Nothing else. And for those people, I think a 1 click root should be available. I went through probably 2 or 3 hours learning how and why to do the root method on this phone after doing the same thing on my old phone (Droid X) because I plan on doing so much with it I want to know exactly what is going on. People like me, should go through the comprehensive root so we have far less "I flashed ____ and bricked my phone what do I do?!?!?!?!1" but for people who just want to remove bloat or use tethering should once again not have to spend hours figuring out what adb is/does.
And even if everyone in the community learns the "technichal" stuff many of them aren't going to help out anyone else. They are going to root, ROM, and GTFO.

miketoasty said:
I disagree. I understand and believe that people should learn what they are doing before they begin but there are some people out there who just want to remove bloat. Nothing else. And for those people, I think a 1 click root should be available. I went through probably 2 or 3 hours learning how and why to do the root method on this phone after doing the same thing on my old phone (Droid X) because I plan on doing so much with it I want to know exactly what is going on. People like me, should go through the comprehensive root so we have far less "I flashed ____ and bricked my phone what do I do?!?!?!?!1" but for people who just want to remove bloat or use tethering should once again not have to spend hours figuring out what adb is/does.
And even if everyone in the community learns the "technichal" stuff many of them aren't going to help out anyone else. They are going to root, ROM, and GTFO.
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All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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dsvoda said:
All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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I wasn't arguing with you just as you said I was stating my opinion.
And the difference between running through an hour long rooting process and a 20 minute 1 click root is, well it's quite obvious what the difference is. Also, we know nothing is perfect that's why everything out there (ROMs, kernels, rooting methods, etc) all have liability warnings, the same as 1 click roots.

dsvoda said:
All I was doing is stating my opinion which still stands at if u don't want to learn stuff leave it stock. And even with a 1 click root app there is still a chance for stuff to go wrong. Nothing in this world is always predictable.
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I don't really have a desire to learn ADB so I won't, but I will still root my phone.
Actually, if I absolutely HAD to learn to use ADB to root, I probably would, then I would promptly forget what I've learned since I'd probably never use it again, until it came time to root my next phone. So I don't see the point, just respectfully disagreeing and sharing my opinion
I use a MAC and a PC and I've built PC's, but I really don't care to learn how all the background s/ware stuff works, but I can add components like a mad-woman.

Thats exactly what I want to do. Just remove the tons of crap that came built in. A one click root solution would be a lifesaver.
The current root methods are way too complicated for me.

yumms said:
Thats exactly what I want to do. Just remove the tons of crap that came built in. A one click root solution would be a lifesaver.
The current root methods are way too complicated for me.
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would this help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292

dsvoda said:
I don't think that there should be any 1 click apps for rooting. These devs spend alot of time setting stuff up for us if you want to use their stuff then learn how to do the basics atleast. Besides the more that learns how to do "technical" stuff the stronger the community will be.
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Yeah, totally... and we should stop using push button car ignitions and even key starts. People should have to poor gas in their carburetors and hand pump up the pressure and crack start it. This way people will better understand how the engine works in case they need to work on it after a break down.
What about lighters and stoves!? 1 click to start a fire, wtf? 2 stick method I say, do people even realize what fire is and where it comes from these days?
Than there's Velcro shoes... omg!

hogowner said:
would this help you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009969
of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005292
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Thanks for that. The second link looks promising. I'll need to try that tonight.

For the love of God... not another effing debate about one-click solutions and learning ADB. Noob this, noob that... developer this, developer that.
The ultimate point is that nobody is entitled to anything... but once a solution has been developed in an open community, nobody is prohibited from using it based upon their level of experience.
I personally feel that it is beneficial to know how the root method works, but there are people who could care less and just want to root their device without fully understanding the process/risks/technicalities.
The bottom line is that they are free to do this and they are "allowed" to use one-click root solutions without having technical knowledge or understanding what ADB is!
/end_rant

Well what good is root at this point? The radio has issues, the camcorder app is bunked, txt app is wishy washy, ringtones for specific contacts switches, etc. I am waiting on root at this point! I have rooted every android phone I have had and this one just seems to flake with root at this time. I still don't understand wth it's doing! If I had a clue, I would write a one click. Just makes it less of a head ache if you have more than one tb to do. And you won't have noobs pop up asking wth did I do wrong. And yes I'm a noob too, but I also read b4 I venture into the unknown. I still say if u wanna learn go buy a book and if ya don't understand it then ask. Why not just put a noob section on each device forum? Let people help the ones that can't do it on their own. Heck make it a mandatory $10 donation fee if ya gotta have someone show you what to do. Seems like no one here has ever had to ask for help. I fix my father's car, not because I really want to. Just because if he does it, it won't ever run again. He ain't got a clue! Some people just aren't able to understand things like others. Be nice and quit bashing noobs.
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hammer4203 said:
Well what good is root at this point? The radio has issues, the camcorder app is bunked, txt app is wishy washy, ringtones for specific contacts switches, etc. I am waiting on root at this point! I have rooted every android phone I have had and this one just seems to flake with root at this time. I still don't understand wth it's doing! If I had a clue, I would write a one click. Just makes it less of a head ache if you have more than one tb to do. And you won't have noobs pop up asking wth did I do wrong. And yes I'm a noob too, but I also read b4 I venture into the unknown. I still say if u wanna learn go buy a book and if ya don't understand it then ask. Why not just put a noob section on each device forum? Let people help the ones that can't do it on their own. Heck make it a mandatory $10 donation fee if ya gotta have someone show you what to do. Seems like no one here has ever had to ask for help. I fix my father's car, not because I really want to. Just because if he does it, it won't ever run again. He ain't got a clue! Some people just aren't able to understand things like others. Be nice and quit bashing noobs.
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Even rooting w/o flashing a new custom ROM is causing issues?

From what I have seen even just straight root causes issues. I really prefer root without flashing a lot of extra. Simple and to the point. Gives me access to files without the head ache of something going wrong.
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hammer4203 said:
From what I have seen even just straight root causes issues. I really prefer root without flashing a lot of extra. Simple and to the point. Gives me access to files without the head ache of something going wrong.
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I rooted to stock and ran that for almost a week before flashing a rom. I had no issues whatsoever.
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Is it assumed that there will never be a true easy 1-click root solution for this phone?
I am on my last week of eligibility to return this phone and if there will not be the same kind of support for this phone from the dev community, then I would like to know so that I can return it.

MoxJr said:
Is it assumed that there will never be a true easy 1-click root solution for this phone?
I am on my last week of eligibility to return this phone and if there will not be the same kind of support for this phone from the dev community, then I would like to know so that I can return it.
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There is already a ton of support and development for this phone. There are several ROMS and kernels already, and the root process is very easy to do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how ADB works. Frankly, if you feel like you deserve to have superuser access to a *IX operating system then damnit you should know what the hell you're doing; that's just my 2 cents though. I wouldn't just turn over root access to my server rack to someone who doesn't understand and appreciate the responsibility of unfettered access to the operating system.
That being said, I am of the mindset that everyone should take the opportunity to learn how these systems work, and would gladly help anyone willing to do so. I have loved Unix based operating systems ever since I got my hands on the first release of Slackware Linux, love the BSDs, and have a lot of fun using Solaris.

nerozehl said:
There is already a ton of support and development for this phone. There are several ROMS and kernels already, and the root process is very easy to do. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to learn how ADB works. Frankly, if you feel like you deserve to have superuser access to a *IX operating system then damnit you should know what the hell you're doing; that's just my 2 cents though. I wouldn't just turn over root access to my server rack to someone who doesn't understand and appreciate the responsibility of unfettered access to the operating system.
That being said, I am of the mindset that everyone should take the opportunity to learn how these systems work, and would gladly help anyone willing to do so. I have loved Unix based operating systems ever since I got my hands on the first release of Slackware Linux, love the BSDs, and have a lot of fun using Solaris.
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Sorry but I'm just looking for something like unrevoked for the T-bolt. I only need it to remove all the bloat, not trying to do anything too fancy.

MoxJr said:
Sorry but I'm just looking for something like unrevoked for the T-bolt. I only need it to remove all the bloat, not trying to do anything too fancy.
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I understand totally wanting to get the bloat off the phone; that's something I think every owner wants, lol.

One Click Root App

Any chance of a One Click Root App being developed to eliminate the multiple steps of rooting our Thunderbolts currently? WOuld make like that much more easier for the ones not too comfortable in the current process.

mrwebb said:
Any chance of a One Click Root App being developed to eliminate the multiple steps of rooting our Thunderbolts currently? WOuld make like that much more easier for the ones not too comfortable in the current process.
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not to flame but really if you are messing around with root/recovery/roms/kernels/etc being able to execute a few commands in a terminal should be considered the bare minimum of competency

A) search is your friend
B) there is a windows program available, I think its in the stickys.
Edit: yep. It's in the stickys. Look up a few threads.
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nitsuj17 said:
not to flame but really if you are messing around with root/recovery/roms/kernels/etc being able to execute a few commands in a terminal should be considered the bare minimum of competency
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^^^ +1 Very true..and although its almost impossible to brick your phone nowadays you definitely need to know how to use sum type of commands just in case you do happen to mess you phone up...not saying you will BUT theres always that chance...

It's so easy. If you follow all of the steps properly literally NOTHING can go wrong. It's kind of frustrating to see all this posts pop up when smart people have given you step by step guides for root.
If you don't understand enough to copy and paste commands into command line, the last thing you need to worry about is root.

It's not the first time I've used cmd but it is the first time I used ADB and honestly, it was simple. There is a step by step tutorial, what else could you possibly want?

i think that the biggest problem for most people is the fact that setting up sdk and getting the nerve to take the leap to adb commands takes alot of know how that a lot of people on here take for granted. At one point in time we all were f'n n00bs.
I just get extremely tired of seeing people being asshats about helping others. Hell I am a noob just getting started to.
But on the other hand you can't help stoopid, and I agree most problems can be resolved with a few solid moments of reading and brain work.
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no idea why this is posted in development.
If you can't run a few shell commands, then are you ready to root your phone? If something were to miraculously go wrong, you NEED to be familiar with your shell to recover.
Don't root until you know about how to flash partitions on a device. It's all well and good to use a one-click batch script, but come on... Rooting is a risky process. What if the power to your PC were to cut out while flashing? What if Windows were to crash?
Learn to use commands yourself, rather than using a one-click button... You learn nothing by pressing buttons. You learn by reading commands, working out what they do, and doing them yourself
Moved to general btw

dude really just do it the old fashion way. ive rooted a G1, N1 and now a TB. its so simple and easy. literally. took me less than 30 minutes to do the whole thing. all i did was a lot of copy and pasting into the terminal. i could have gotten my 7 year old nephew to do this for me

As I said be 4, its just the terminology that scares people. I am a newbie but didn't take long to get my phone rooted. Words like "push" this file vs copy & paste. Or "terminal" vs command window. I am glad I did not use any one click solutions I would be in even more darkness.
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The method of root using ADB is by far the most reliable way of rooting the thunderbolt. Unfortunately a "one click" root solution is bad in my opinion because you need to know whats actually happening when you are rooting your phone. If you need assistance send me a PM and I can guide you through the process of getting root on your t-bolt. I already helped one person do it and now he understands better how to use ADB and what needs to happen to root your phone. ADB is useful in so many different ways when you have an android phone its definitely worth figuring it out. Just my $.02

To All Who Use Easy Root Methods

Stop getting angry when we do not want to help you fix the problem you are having. Seriously, quit it. You are warned left and right that you may not or will not get support for it. The simple fact is that auto/easy root methods are too questionable. It leaves you in the dark when something goes wrong. We cannot easily figure out what happened, why it happened, or what exactly the issue is because it is automatic. I'm annoyed at the amount of users who go onto IRC begging for help and start freaking out on us because YOU wanted the easy way out. It doesn't take more then a Google search to learn exactly what to do, what it is doing, and how it works for the manual root method. I can only speak for myself but I'm plenty sure other members can agree and attest to this. I, myself, spend more time helping lazy/scared people FIX their phones BECAUSE of an easy root method then doing any real development! And when I decline to, the AndIRC chatroom becomes a hated place and gets bashed on. Use at your own risk. Enjoy.
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If you don't want to help, don't help. People have every right to ask for help and if they freak out on you for not helping, ignore them. All you're doing by posting this thread is returning the sarcasm and snarkyness that you're accusing them of dishing out.

No no no. ProTekk is 1000% right on this. I get tired of lazy assholes on IRC who want to be spoon fed.
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Tbh, this wasn't an "I'm better and smarter than you" post. It was meant to be a clear and valid warning to all. In no way was I trying to come off as snarky or a know it all. If you take this the wrong way then maybe you need to.reread this and start over again.
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Oh, also, I explain in detail why and what my reasoning is. Don't start flaming buddy
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I agree 100%.
There are a lot of new people moving into android with this phone, and a lot of progress has been made through development inthe few weeks it has been out.
People really need to slow down, and read before jumping. I think that was proven this morning...good one Jcase
I've had a rooted phone for over a year now, been through roms like mad, but still get nervous and re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
Take your time people, read, re-read, ask questions, then flash, your phones not going anywhere unless you do something dumb and end up with a brick....which would more than likely be your fault if it happens.

Bimmer323 said:
I agree 100%.
There are a lot of new people moving into android with this phone, and a lot of progress has been made through development inthe few weeks it has been out.
People really need to slow down, and read before jumping. I think that was proven this morning...good one Jcase
I've had a rooted phone for over a year now, been through roms like mad, but still get nervous and re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
Take your time people, read, re-read, ask questions, then flash, your phones not going anywhere unless you do something dumb and end up with a brick....which would more than likely be your fault if it happens.
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Forgot about the questions. They.are more than welcome if it is about rooting. Ask away. We share knowledge. We don't hoard it and say go home. Glad to see some voices in here besides mine.
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Completely agree with protekk. Devs can not help you if they don't know the exact process of rooting went wrong if you use a "1 click" method. Using the process put out by jcase a person can start over or even go back to the prior step. The process jcase put out was a step by step (copy & paste commands) process. I am no better than any of you, but I can read and follow simple instructions, and in doing so have gotten a good understanding of adb. As for getting help, I have never had a problem with getting help, even when I started.
When rooting or flashing, you need to read, read, read, read, until you are comfortable with the instructions. Xda has info to getting everything setup and running. Research before you flash or root.

+1 man. I've only had my Thunderbolt for a few days and ended up deciding to root manually because I wanted to know what was going on, step by step. It's taking a little time to get used to CWM coming from the Eris where I've used Amon Ra's recovery.
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I've noticed a trend of folks really beating up on the dev's. Guys, our dev's do this for free or donations. Some even insist that we donate to the homeless or our favorite charity. You're not paying for support, these guys do what they do out of love and commitment to the community. Please remember this before you log onto IRC or make a new thread. The dev's have gone through a lot of trouble to learn these systems and write scripts for you, usually through reverse engineering and a lot of time. Respect their time by searching first.
Additionally, if you need help - please and thank you goes a long way. So do logcats and output from the screens that you're currently working with
Now, back to your regularly scheduled discussion.
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All I'm saying is I remember a lot of people complaining about jcase, not wanting a 1 click root released . He wanted people to know what was being done and how to do it. And people complained saying he had no right. I believe this is why he didn't want it released to soon. Damn I hate mind readers. Lol
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"ProTekk is 1000% right on this."
"+1"
If someone doesn't want to put in the time to understand what is going on and the processes taken to make it happen they shouldn't even bother rooting.

This is my first android phone ever. I have successfully rooted it on both a mac and pc. I followed the instructions and learned how to use adb (nothing fancy of course). If I can learn others can too.
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Thats a good point OP.
The method posted by JCASE is so simple that anyone should be able to do it.
1) Install drivers for your phone
2)copy files to your ADB directory and to your phone SD card
3)Open a command prompt
4)Copy and paste a bunch of ADB commands
5)Put the other PG05IMG.BIN on your phone
6)Copy and paste some more adb commands
7)Download a few market apps
8)Success
I mean where is that difficult? Its basically spoon fed. If you don't have the ability to copy files to your phones SD card, copy and paste commands into a DOS prompt, follow clear instructions, and install driver software for your phone, then you probably shouldn't bother doing anything. I don't even consider myself an ADB pro, I learned how to use some of it with my MOTO Droid and I still don't know what a bunch of the commands are. I know how to push files to my phone, how to pull files from my phone, and some other misc commands.

I agree. I was frustrated sure. Took me another 7 tries and a few different methods. But in the end I was the one responsible. I could have chose to give up , but because I didn't want to be left behind I kept learning and trying. I finally got it last night. It even feels better knowing how much trial and error I had to try. Makes me appreciate it more.
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TNS201 said:
Thats a good point OP.
The method posted by JCASE is so simple that anyone should be able to do it.
1) Install drivers for your phone
2)copy files to your ADB directory and to your phone SD card
3)Open a command prompt
4)Copy and paste a bunch of ADB commands
5)Put the other PG05IMG.BIN on your phone
6)Copy and paste some more adb commands
7)Download a few market apps
8)Success
I mean where is that difficult? Its basically spoon fed. If you don't have the ability to copy files to your phones SD card, copy and paste commands into a DOS prompt, follow clear instructions, and install driver software for your phone, then you probably shouldn't bother doing anything. I don't even consider myself an ADB pro, I learned how to use some of it with my MOTO Droid and I still don't know what a bunch of the commands are. I know how to push files to my phone, how to pull files from my phone, and some other misc commands.
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I'm considering moving to Android, possibly the Thunderbolt. I'm experienced with flashing custom ROMs to WinMo 6.X phones, but that's not a root process (at least not on any phones I've owned), it's a simple process of connecting the device tp a PC via USB, launching a program on the PC, clicking a few buttons and restarting the phone. Done.
Coming from that simplcity, the rooting process looks kinda daunting, but not impossible. I've been reading as much as I can in different forums, but without having the phone in front of me and trying it out, I'm not understanding the process.
For instance, "Open a command prompt." Is this on a connected PC, or directly on the phone? If on the phone, how do I get to a command prompt on it?
I guess I'd like to ask the knowledgeable folks here for a website they'd recommend for an absolute beginner to bone up before attempting his first root? Or multiple sites, where I can not only read how it's done, but what is actually happening at each step. I know my way around Windows pretty well (up to XP anyway), but have no idea when it comes to Linux.
As to folks who dork up their phones while trying to root/modify - the devs are offering their knowledge, free of charge. You aren't being forced to root, it's your choice and ultimately your responsibility. I've seen the occasional Sp.Ed. flip out because his phone bricked while flashing a WinMo custom ROM that someone spent many hours working on and tweaking. Not often, I'm glad to say - most folks are grateful for the effort.

This was my first android phone, and initially I was too scared to do the manual method. But, I manned up and decided to do it, and to be honest, it was simple. After that, I tried reading all the threads and being active in the community. That's the thing with attaining knowledge, you have to be proactive. Read through everything, and often. Don't just ask questions only when it pertains to your problem, because from what I've seen, it's always answered in some thread.
tl,dr:The gist, just be proactive. read read read

tedkord said:
I'm considering moving to Android, possibly the Thunderbolt. I'm experienced with flashing custom ROMs to WinMo 6.X phones, but that's not a root process (at least not on any phones I've owned), it's a simple process of connecting the device tp a PC via USB, launching a program on the PC, clicking a few buttons and restarting the phone. Done.
Coming from that simplcity, the rooting process looks kinda daunting, but not impossible. I've been reading as much as I can in different forums, but without having the phone in front of me and trying it out, I'm not understanding the process.
For instance, "Open a command prompt." Is this on a connected PC, or directly on the phone? If on the phone, how do I get to a command prompt on it?
I guess I'd like to ask the knowledgeable folks here for a website they'd recommend for an absolute beginner to bone up before attempting his first root? Or multiple sites, where I can not only read how it's done, but what is actually happening at each step. I know my way around Windows pretty well (up to XP anyway), but have no idea when it comes to Linux.
As to folks who dork up their phones while trying to root/modify - the devs are offering their knowledge, free of charge. You aren't being forced to root, it's your choice and ultimately your responsibility. I've seen the occasional Sp.Ed. flip out because his phone bricked while flashing a WinMo custom ROM that someone spent many hours working on and tweaking. Not often, I'm glad to say - most folks are grateful for the effort.
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look on you tube they have a real nice walk thru you should watch first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc6EMdPpF6o&annotation_id=annotation_68322&feature=iv
thanx nat3mil

Bimmer323 said:
re-read every post before I put something on my phone and understand exactly what it's doing.
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Ayup. either a long contract or an expensive phone I do not want anything bad to happen to it
with my og droid I would do just about anything to it because that thing was bulletproof and I got buy 1 get 1 free .
my thunder bolt, it's treated with kid gloves
this is not a signature I type it in every time maybe sent from my phone or my computer

I have to agree for the most part...I rooted my bolt with the very first method released and it took me quit a while...had to do allot of reading (adb). I got most of my questions answered by going threw the threads.... reading other peoples problems they posted and then the fixes or answers left by knowledgeable forum members. Yes that takes time but it does help...I will vouch for that...lots of knowledge and answers here just have to put in the time.
I think people should be able to ask questions on here...thats part of why the forums are here, but if you ask and you don't get answer it's more than likely you have ask a question that has been asked before...several before's....Its just to basic of a question which could have several answers (not enough info in the question)....or you ask to many questions which means you have not done your home work.
Read and then read some more....google and google some more.....then ask the question....

+1000
People want to be spoon fed - doing things the right way is too hard for them

[Q] What's the best way to remove crap on ATT?

So, can someone link me to a simple, current guide to rooting and removing crapware? Bonus points if I can revert all changes so they can't screw me on my warranty.
I have an AT&T One X, purchased in the last week. I can post version info if necessary.
I want to ditch the yellowpages garbage and all the att garbage (wifi, navigator, cityid, etc) and probably twitter and facebook, though I don't really care if they're there. I'd also like to enable tethering if I can.
I had a ROM on my last phone (samsung infuse) which did all this, but I don't think I want to put a ROM on this one just yet. So, I'm not new to rooting, but I'm new to HTC, and new to removing/freezing bloat. I'm running linux.

Oh, and I saw the one-click root thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167
But I read that it makes your phone show *TAMPERED* and lock you out? That makes me terrified of running it.
Edit: Oh, and I have software number 1.85.502.3 710RD... I don't think it would work anyway.

Here are the two best places to start for this stuff:
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Number 2
Good luck!

You can disable them without voiding warranty. The only thing i couldn't disable was AT&T ready to go.

karan1203 said:
You can disable them without voiding warranty. The only thing i couldn't disable was AT&T ready to go.
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But how?
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Here are the two best places to start for this stuff:
Number 1
Number 2
Good luck!
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Because I obviously haven't been trying to use those. Seriously, these forums contain some of the most unapproachable instructions that exist, instructions that have the potential to brick your device, and if you ask for some advice on not getting your $600 device completely ****ed by them, you get linked to google. I help users of various open source projects all the goddamn time, and I never go HERP DERP LMGTFY.
So give real advice or just don't reply. It's not helpful or constructive, it doesn't make you cool, it doesn't even clean up the forums. If you know nothing and are posting to be a jerk, then you're just bumping my post for me. If you're deliberately withholding information and posting to be a jerk, then you're actively increasing forum clutter by keeping me around longer. Either way, the outcome is that the "signal to noise" ratio of the forum goes to **** because half the posts are "OMG GOOGLE," because this attitude is actively encouraged for some reason, when in reality it shouldn't even be tolerated.

Holy crap dude, chill the eff out. My post was completely lighthearted and I was fully prepared to help you and give you whatever help you needed. Hence the that I ended it with. Not anymore!
And you know what's not tolerated around here? Farking n00bs who CLAIM they exhausted searching when it is more than evident they didn't. Answers to ALL your questions can be found in guides ON EVERY DAMN ANDROID FORUM ON THE INTERNET, including here on xda where you decided to post the same exact thread that has already been posted thrice today by other noobs asking for help without wanting to do any legwork of their own.
And if you can't understand the simple "herp derp click here and watch your phone get rooted automagically for you" instructions then maybe you shouldn't be rooting. Smart phones are for smart people.
GOOD DAY.

jschall2 said:
But how?
Because I obviously haven't been trying to use those. Seriously, these forums contain some of the most unapproachable instructions that exist, instructions that have the potential to brick your device, and if you ask for some advice on not getting your $600 device completely ****ed by them, you get linked to google. I help users of various open source projects all the goddamn time, and I never go HERP DERP LMGTFY.
So give real advice or just don't reply. It's not helpful or constructive, it doesn't make you cool, it doesn't even clean up the forums. If you know nothing and are posting to be a jerk, then you're just bumping my post for me. If you're deliberately withholding information and posting to be a jerk, then you're actively increasing forum clutter by keeping me around longer. Either way, the outcome is that the "signal to noise" ratio of the forum goes to **** because half the posts are "OMG GOOGLE," because this attitude is actively encouraged for some reason, when in reality it shouldn't even be tolerated.
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You can disable apps, or uninstall them by going to settings>apps, or by going to the menu on your app drawer and selecting manage apps. once there, you can tap on apps that you don't want then tapping on them individually and selecting the option that you want.

Titanium backup. The end.
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Holy crap dude, chill the eff out. My post was completely lighthearted and I was fully prepared to help you and give you whatever help you needed. Hence the that I ended it with. Not anymore!
And you know what's not tolerated around here? Farking n00bs who CLAIM they exhausted searching when it is more than evident they didn't. Answers to ALL your questions can be found in guides ON EVERY DAMN ANDROID FORUM ON THE INTERNET, including here on xda where you decided to post the same exact thread that has already been posted thrice today by other noobs asking for help without wanting to do any legwork of their own.
And if you can't understand the simple "herp derp click here and watch your phone get rooted automagically for you" instructions then maybe you shouldn't be rooting. Smart phones are for smart people.
GOOD DAY.
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I've dedicated the last hour or more to searching for this ****. Once you've been into modding your phone for a while, you don't understand how difficult it is to get started.
I'm trying to go about this with caution, so I don't get screwed. I cannot afford to replace the phone if I screw up and HTC and ATT decide to throw me under the bus. Maybe the people around here who seem to own 3-5 phones at a time can.
The various roots that I found appeared to have users replying that they didn't work with the latest revisions to 1.85. So I'm still not even sure I can do that. Maybe those users were full of crap, maybe not. How am I supposed to know?
Back to the subject of the phone, it looks like CleanROM is probably my best option, but it will require unlocking the bootloader. So far I've seen instructions for rooting 1.85, but I'm unsure about unlocking.

bloodrain954 said:
Titanium backup. The end.
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I know about titanium backup, but I haven't even rooted yet.

jschall2 said:
I've dedicated the last hour or more to searching for this ****. Once you've been into modding your phone for a while, you don't understand how difficult it is to get started.
I'm trying to go about this with caution, so I don't get screwed. I cannot afford to replace the phone if I screw up and HTC and ATT decide to throw me under the bus. Maybe the people around here who seem to own 3-5 phones at a time can.
The various roots that I found appeared to have users replying that they didn't work with the latest revisions to 1.85. So I'm still not even sure I can do that. Maybe those users were full of crap, maybe not. How am I supposed to know?
Back to the subject of the phone, it looks like CleanROM is probably my best option, but it will require unlocking the bootloader. So far I've seen instructions for rooting 1.85, but I'm unsure about unlocking.
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Lets start over, ok?
To root your phone, there is a one click thread that is stickied in development that works great. I have used it 6 times now and have had no issues. It doesn't always work the first time but usually does the second. it will give you a "tampered" banner on your bootloader but that goes away if you RUU back to stock. It absolutely does work on the latest software (1.85).
Here's the thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709424
For removal of bloatware, use Titanium Backup. Been using it for 3 years, and I swear by it. When you select an item for deletion, back it up first just in case.
Here- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
Use these two things, I promise you won't get screwed. I'm sorry for yelling.

_MetalHead_ said:
Holy crap dude, chill the eff out. My post was completely lighthearted and I was fully prepared to help you and give you whatever help you needed. Hence the that I ended it with. Not anymore!
And you know what's not tolerated around here? Farking n00bs who CLAIM they exhausted searching when it is more than evident they didn't. Answers to ALL your questions can be found in guides ON EVERY DAMN ANDROID FORUM ON THE INTERNET, including here on xda where you decided to post the same exact thread that has already been posted thrice today by other noobs asking for help without wanting to do any legwork of their own.
And if you can't understand the simple "herp derp click here and watch your phone get rooted automagically for you" instructions then maybe you shouldn't be rooting. Smart phones are for smart people.
GOOD DAY.
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a little pointed, but true.. i remember my first post here on xda and I was labelled as a noob for asking a question. some people are just too sensitive for these type of forums. To op, if you cannot handle the "heat" I would tell you what I was told back then: "xda is for people who want to tinker with their phone, or for those interested in learning how to do so and contribute to the community. If that's not you, go to a much more general forum like android central." Now, you can bash me like you did to that guy who was just joking, or you can take what I said for what it means and run with it. Read up, that will do wonders for you.

_MetalHead_ said:
Lets start over, ok?
To root your phone, there is a one click thread that is stickied in development that works great. I have used it 6 times now and have had no issues. It doesn't always work the first time but usually does the second. it will give you a "tampered" banner on your bootloader but that goes away if you RUU back to stock. It absolutely does work on the latest software (1.85).
Here's the thread- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709424
For removal of bloatware, use Titanium Backup. Been using it for 3 years, and I swear by it. When you select an item for deletion, back it up first just in case.
Here- https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup
Use these two things, I promise you won't get screwed. I'm sorry for yelling.
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Hmm, thank you for the help. I still haven't been able to get that root to work. adb wait-for-device finishes, but then the adb push just sits there forever.

Do you have HTC sync running? Is USB debugging enabled?
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SoberGuy said:
Do you have HTC sync running? Is USB debugging enabled?
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No and yes. I have sync installed but not running. USB debugging enabled on the phone, phone in charge-only mode.

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No and yes. I have sync installed but not running. USB debugging enabled on the phone, phone in charge-only mode.
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I got it to work by switching to a different USB host.
Edit: but it said no update found, so I'm restarting and setting the clock forward.

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I got it to work by switching to a different USB host.
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Would have been next. Always use a port on the back of the computer for anything related to root, unlock, or flash.
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Would have been next. Always use a port on the back of the computer for anything related to root, unlock, or flash.
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Well, it's my laptop, and I have to use virtualbox to get winderz. So, it was probably something related to that.
Anyway, I swapped it from a usb2 port to a usb3 port.

Yeah on a desktop it can matter. I have yet to see an explanation of the difference between ports on the front and back, and why adb will refuse to work with some/most front ports. Just seems to be that way.
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So I'm on my fourth or fifth try, still "no update available."
Edit: Ok, tried it 7+ times, how can I eliminate winderz? Is this exploit using a patched adb?

moto x toolkit and avast antivirus

I had the toolkit on my pc... just installed avast antivirus and it wiped the toolkit off my pc.. wtf?

Because it knows toolkits are the downfall of society and are the major contributing factor to phone modding idiocy and technology paperweights. Learn to do it manually, or leave it stock.
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Don't know if the above comment is sarcastic or not but it's in no way supportive! Like everyone has the interest or time to do these stuffs manually
Anyway, maybe Avast found it as something which needs to be deleted? Yeah that's it. I don't have any problem with my NIS here. Just add the Toolkit under exception list, or whatever it is called for Avast, no big deal.

devilsdouble said:
Don't know if the above comment is sarcastic or not but it's in no way supportive! Like everyone has the interest or time to do these stuffs manually
Anyway, maybe Avast found it as something which needs to be deleted? Yeah that's it. I don't have any problem with my NIS here. Just add the Toolkit under exception list, or whatever it is called for Avast, no big deal.
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It takes 10 minutes (maybe) to unlock manually, another 2 to flash recovery manually, and that's if you have dialup and need to wait to download the necessary files. Once you have recovery, what's the use of a toolkit? Is there sarcasm? Sure. But I've seen more people get into jams with toolkits and not be able to recover than people trying to do it manually.

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It takes 10 minutes (maybe) to unlock manually, another 2 to flash recovery manually, and that's if you have dialup and need to wait to download the necessary files. Once you have recovery, what's the use of a toolkit? Is there sarcasm? Sure. But I've seen more people get into jams with toolkits and not be able to recover than people trying to do it manually.
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Especially with the step by step guides all over xda

apparently you havent rooted with slapmymoto a little bit more confusing than what you described even with the toolkit confusing.. and than theres adb and trying to figure out how to install it and use it... yep easy stuff.. more like 2 days... i will take flying an instrument approach in mexico any day to trying to understand adb

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apparently you havent rooted with slapmymoto a little bit more confusing than what you described even with the toolkit confusing.. and than theres adb and trying to figure out how to install it and use it... yep easy stuff.. more like 2 days... i will take flying an instrument approach in mexico any day to trying to understand adb
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With an attitude like that, I hope you brick your phone. The problem with the world today is everyone wants everything now. You can't take an extra 20 minutes to learn anything, it needs done now. Maybe that's why the people that learn to do stuff the "hard" way have fewer problems, because they learn how to fix stuff on their own, or know when to stop and ask before proceeding further. Installing ADB is far from difficult, and using it isn't hard either. There are only a small handful of commands, so I'm not sure why you think it's so difficult. Then again, you can't figure out how to get a your antivirus program to allow you to use the toolkit, so I'm sure anything over pressing the power button is too hard for you.

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With an attitude like that, I hope you brick your phone. The problem with the world today is everyone wants everything now. You can't take an extra 20 minutes to learn anything, it needs done now. Maybe that's why the people that learn to do stuff the "hard" way have fewer problems, because they learn how to fix stuff on their own, or know when to stop and ask before proceeding further. Installing ADB is far from difficult, and using it isn't hard either. There are only a small handful of commands, so I'm not sure why you think it's so difficult. Then again, you can't figure out how to get a your antivirus program to allow you to use the toolkit, so I'm sure anything over pressing the power button is too hard for you.
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That was funny.. thanks

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I had the toolkit on my pc... just installed avast antivirus and it wiped the toolkit off my pc.. wtf?
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Have you ever heard of "FALSE POSITIVE"?
and with an ending of WFT... I'm not surprised you got some harsh responses.
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apparently you havent rooted with slapmymoto a little bit more confusing than what you described even with the toolkit confusing.. and than theres adb and trying to figure out how to install it and use it... yep easy stuff.. more like 2 days... i will take flying an instrument approach in mexico any day to trying to understand adb
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Installing ADB is not hard. For example a quick google search found this excellent guide -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/t...set-up-adb-and-fastboot-for-your-windows-7-pc which is illustrated and easy to follow. I would just add a couple of things which I noted here -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/ADB.htm
As for following SlapMyMoto, yes, it can be a daunting task for someone who is new to it... BUT if it was easy, everyone would root their phone and no android devices would be safe/secure. The SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo threads do a pretty good job of covering the processes, but they were written at different times, so you have to pay attention as some steps might not be needed (like flashing to 4.4 if you are already on 4.4)
However if you don't understand it, you shouldn't be doing it as messing up could have serious impact on your phone, and your carrier or moto might refuse to warranty it since the failure wasn't cause by hardware, or the stock software.
OH, and what are you trying to do with the toolkit? You mention SlapMyMoto, have you done that already? or is that what you are trying? because if you are trying SlapMyMoto, make sure your phone is NOT on 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 before you start.

The wtf was in the sense of a joke.. and I wasnt using the tookit at the time Avast picked it out.. it was on the pc and i had just installed avast. I did use it to root my moto its running 4.4
I do like to get my hands into the dirt.. and learn the basics.. but time was an issue a couple months ago when i chose to use the toolkit.. now time is not so i may try to install and learn adb.
Thanks
I still laugh at the simple part... that little box that pops up during the slapmymoto root process.. a forgot the name but has to be ran 3 times and than another little box has to be ran .. my god.. i cant stop laughing at how simple that poster says it is.. LOL 2 minutes LOL
Thanks for the help

Jeez the guy asked a simple question and gets flamed you guys need to settle down. And as for the comment I hope you brick your phone well your just a douche bag that was uncalled for. I know how to use adb and I still use tool kits like house of moto. Why well for one someone took the time to make it and two its easier and quicker. Hey you want to do it the hard way knock yourself out. I do agree people should be inclined to learn adb and how to fix their phones. I have screwed up my fair share doing crazy stuff but have never had a paper weight. Always able to fxz it back to life. Anyway this wasn't a discussion on toolkits all he wanted to know was why his anti virus would delete the tool kit.
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