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Poor video playback - solutions?

Hy guys,
Just to know, I'm coming from my trusty Eten M700. I bought the HTC Touch Pro about one week ago here, in Romania.
And I must say the video playback seems way too sluggish for a phone like this. On the M700, with same coreplayer version (latest), with raw frame buffer and medium quality and no other modification I could play every video I wanted. Including 720x576 xvid clips.
On this one...no matter what I set (QTV, raw frame buffer, direct draw), everything seems a little too sluggish compared to M700.
do you have the same impression, or is it just me?
I just read another thread here about video performance but it had too much dissipated info.

Gigs said:
Hy guys,
Just to know, I'm coming from my trusty Eten M700. I bought the HTC Touch Pro about one week ago here, in Romania.
And I must say the video playback seems way too sluggish for a phone like this. On the M700, with same coreplayer version (latest), with raw frame buffer and medium quality and no other modification I could play every video I wanted. Including 720x576 xvid clips.
On this one...no matter what I set (QTV, raw frame buffer, direct draw), everything seems a little too sluggish compared to M700.
do you have the same impression, or is it just me?
I just read another thread here about video performance but it had too much dissipated info.
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Which is why it's great that you started a new thread to dissipate the info further. Read the other thread(s) again, this has already been answered and solved within coreplayer.

P0ll0L0c0 said:
Which is why it's great that you started a new thread to dissipate the info further. Read the other thread(s) again, this has already been answered and solved within coreplayer.
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which topic is it? i have smilar issues

Untill now I have found that QTV with Medium acceleration, and dither on has the best performance, anyway less than m700. Setting the buffer to 8000 kb did not had any effect. Still want to hear from another pro owners what they think about this.

I agree, video playback just sucks! I hate Qualcomm processors, Xscale rulezzz!
However when I put QTv, my screen goes black and there's only sound.
How did you achieve to run it on QTv???

krabicka3 said:
I agree, video playback just sucks! I hate Qualcomm processors, Xscale rulezzz!
However when I put QTv, my screen goes black and there's only sound.
How did you achieve to run it on QTv???
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It depends on what kind of file you want to play with it. On mine, some 3gp and some clips compressed for mobile devices don't show anything on screen. Try to switch to raw frame buffer, and restart core player, maybe it helps?

Unfortunately the HTC Touch Pro is not the mulitmedia phone you want if your looking to run your non-mobile encoded videos. However it still can be a awesome video player if you encode videos to the right dimension and specs.
I took this past Sunday to play around with finding just the right video format and encode settings to play video as close to vga as possible. Unfortunately the Touch Pro can't play videos in full-vga resolution. HOWEVER, it can perfectly play videos in 480x320 which when you compare to a 640x480 video on the touch pro's 2.5inch screen there is no difference in quality what so ever.
When you play small videos on such a small screen you wont notice the difference in the resolution, however comparing a qvga (320x240) to the half vga 480x320 resolution you can definitely see a difference.
I use two different encoders, one being pocket divx encoder and the other videora iphone converter.
I encoded a bunch of animes and movies using pocket divx set to 480x320, 2-Pass, vhq enabled, around 850 video bitrate and 128kb stereo bitrate and all my videos look crisp on the Touch Pro and plays smoothly.
I suggest others to try it out and benchmark the playback yourself and you'll see it'll run at a easy 135%+ which is perfect for 100% smooth playback.

Gigs said:
It depends on what kind of file you want to play with it. On mine, some 3gp and some clips compressed for mobile devices don't show anything on screen. Try to switch to raw frame buffer, and restart core player, maybe it helps?
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1.) I suggest check two things, one be sure you are running the latest build which I assume you are,
2) under preferences and under the Qtv page look to make sure "Tytn 2 driver mode" is enabled.
3) some builds have a issue of zoomed in pictures to a an extreme amount that only a black screen shows when first installed, set the zoom to 50% and then reset to the normal or best fit.
Hopefully those changes should help you out
UPDATE: Also there is one bug I know of with Coreplayer. When coreplayer is launched and left running in the back (or if still active on screen) should the device go into sleep mode and then come back you will not be able to see any video playing when choosing to start. You'll have to close coreplayer and reopen again, I noticed this the other day and just came into mind when experiencing just now again.

I almost agree with you puerrican but I think it's such a burden to reencode....I managed to get easy after I saw that everything encoded with h264, mkv and encoders like this can't be played in the pro. However, everything I had in my computer encoded in divx, xvid, normal things works just fine with the settings I put in some posts above. I just tried 700 MB DVDrip(around 1000 kbit/s and 640x272) and some videoclip(624x352 vbr around 2300kbits) both xvid and they worked ok. 688x400 AVC1 (h264) killed the pro.It's not just the resolution but also the encoder used.
EDIT: just saw the update and I wanted to mention that I'm also using the 1.2.5 build 4506 with tytn 2 mode enabled and qtv on medium selected. And touchflo3d is disabled and I'm using the spb shell (or something like that with icons on screen).
IDEA: I think it would be interesting playing back xvid 640x480 and h264 640x480 to test this idea of mine

Definitely it is pain to go and do that. Plus reencoding speed relies heavily on your pc specs, on a high end specs your looking at around 4-5 mins for a 2-pass encoded video of 24 min length. While a movie length of 90 mins or so your looking at at least 16-22 mins.
So expect much longer wait on a lower end thats not even dual core or lower clock rate.
Until pdas start sporting dedicated gpus from nvidia or other names windows mobile wont ever benefit on being a media playback alternative which is a nice plus for those not looking to carry 2-3 devices for music, pmp, pda, and phone. Wish HTC would look into intel processors for their next unit and possibly throw in a nvidia mobile gpu like the 5500 with a decent amount of video memory. I mean at this point in the technology chain its not even remotely impossible to do so... so whats the hold up with companies???

yeah, i have no problem with mp4 at 640x480 (640x360 widescreen). mkv at high res (above 640x480) is a little juttery. my movies are usually 24fps, 1000kbps, 640x360
got same settings as gigs
coreplayer is working on fix for v1.3

I'm at a lost, I tried playing 640x480 videos on my touch pro and it stutters way too much, how are you guys managing to have to it playback flawlessly?

I dont really get whats good about watching movies on a 2.5 inch screen...do you do that on such a regular basis that this is so important ?
Regarding Video, i just watch some short youtube clips and stuff like that...
Ever tried to watch a full length movie on such a small screen ? I did that on holiday on my ipod and its really hurting the eyes to concetrate on such a small screen for 90+ minutes... not really anything you want to do regularly...besides not reencoded videos take up alot of space on your memorystick...
i dont have a problem with reencoding some videos and stuff, full length movies arent meant to be watched on a phone anyway

Well, a 2,5 inch screen is a bit too small, but our Touch Pros have a 2,8 inch screen

I have a zune and it has a 3 in screen and was perfect for watching tv videos or movies, and thats half the resolution then a TP. Cant wait to get my hand on the TP !!!

To each his own, some ppl like being able to watch videos whenever the call comes. Sometimes when I have to wait for something like a class to start or I'm away from my pc, or even on a airplane or public transportation I like to be able to watch few episodes easily and clearly. A full blown movie yea its gonna be a nuisance for a long time depending on the person. But some are accustomed to it, I for one can easily watch 4-6 episodes in a row without getting any kind of headahce.

yep, its quite convient. all in one device. it has tv out as well, so since it is simalar res to tv, it looks great
music + movies on phone, no ned for mp3 player. plus i can stream movies off my pc

yeah i see that there is room for this, but i dont think many people use this so regulary that converting a few movies is that much of a pain. You will save a lot of space on your memorystick as well.

I have modifying 2 regentries and the video is now much better.
Look here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438318
Using CorePlayer the benchmark was before 75-95%,now 145%. on same videofile - Uncompressed VGA XviD.
Edit... I am sorry. It wasn't working. I just forgot,that I set the video quality to medium before.

You have to chose Medium Quality on Video Settings (with Qtv selected), otherwise it lags so much ..
Even on medium on motion scenses some frame drops
Video used for tests: RL_XQ_640x480_1500_128.avi (found somewhere here on this forum.. can't remember the topic name )

[Q] Handbrake transcoded widescreen video still displays black bars?

First off, I don't understand video and audio very much beyond the basics.
I'd previously used handbrake to rip DVDs to my wife's ipad. When the aspect ratios agree, she's golden. When they don't, she doesn't care since she's used to seeing letterboxing on our TV.
However, I've tried to rip a widescreen movie to my Transformer and see the black bars in the video. I'd assumed since I was ripping a widescreen video to a widescreen device, it would fill the screen. Seeing black bars is no real issue apart from being annoying, so I'm trying to get rid of them.
I've been doing some reading and have tried to play with the anamorphic settings to try and fill the screen out, without any luck.
At this point, I think I'm either missing something very basic, have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how this is supposed to work, or some combination of the two.
I would appreciate and helpful tips or advice anyone might be able to offer.
BTW, I'm using the settings I found here: http://www.ryukent.co.uk/2011/05/asus-eeepad-transformer-handbrake-settings/
And also, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
thanks
Dave

my handbreak video displays fine! Try it in rockplayer, not the original stock player and it will strech to aspect properly

The Transformer's aspect ratio is 1280x800px; the standard 16:9 widescreen videos will probably encode (or expand) to 1280x720px - which will leave 40 pixels of unused space (your black bars) at the top and bottom of your screen.
Many players allow you to stretch videos to fill the entire screen (moboPlayer allows this).

Many films are 2.39:1, which would be 1280x535 on the TF which will leave a lot of empty space unless you stretch/crop (neither of which is desirable)....

daverod said:
First off, I don't understand video and audio very much beyond the basics.
I'd previously used handbrake to rip DVDs to my wife's ipad. When the aspect ratios agree, she's golden. When they don't, she doesn't care since she's used to seeing letterboxing on our TV.
However, I've tried to rip a widescreen movie to my Transformer and see the black bars in the video. I'd assumed since I was ripping a widescreen video to a widescreen device, it would fill the screen. Seeing black bars is no real issue apart from being annoying, so I'm trying to get rid of them.
I've been doing some reading and have tried to play with the anamorphic settings to try and fill the screen out, without any luck.
At this point, I think I'm either missing something very basic, have a fundamental misunderstanding as to how this is supposed to work, or some combination of the two.
I would appreciate and helpful tips or advice anyone might be able to offer.
BTW, I'm using the settings I found here: http://www.ryukent.co.uk/2011/05/asus-eeepad-transformer-handbrake-settings/
And also, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
thanks
Dave
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Depends on the movies. Some movies are 16:9 or (1.78), will others are Cinema Scope (2.35). The 2.35 will always have black bars, even on wide screen. Read the packaging, it should give you the aspect ratio. They are ultra wide. Personally I wish Hollywood would dump 2.35, but it appears to be the trending thing to do. Frankly, I just think they do it to give you a reason to go to a theater.
FYI: It appears the that Automatic crop doesn't work, at least on Blu-Ray mkvs.

drewgstevens said:
Many films are 2.39:1, which would be 1280x535 on the TF which will leave a lot of empty space unless you stretch/crop (neither of which is desirable)....
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Yea, have a movie around that frame height. Im sure i know the answer already, but please confirm.
Its impossinke to stretch/increase the height frame through sofware like handbrake right?
So, you can shrink it, but just cant stretch it or make it bigge, atleast without losing quality...
Thanks

turbulent28 said:
Yea, have a movie around that frame height. Im sure i know the answer already, but please confirm.
Its impossinke to stretch/increase the height frame through sofware like handbrake right?
So, you can shrink it, but just cant stretch it or make it bigge, atleast without losing quality...
Thanks
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You can stretch it but everything will look very tall and thin - If you like your movies about NBA basketball players that might be fun.
You can crop and then expand the frame but this will lose quality as you are essentially zooming in -- parts on the outside of the frame will be lost.
The black bars are not the fault of the device, they're the fault of the movie industry.
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[feature request] 3D anamorph

PLEASE! guys add anamorph conversion vertical to horizontal. It would be great to watching 3d movies with Google Cardboard (can't post links, i tried) and mx player.
and second problem to watching videos - aspect ratio. I cant' do right aspect so image vertical extended.
Thanks very much, i hope you'll do it.
Will you work at this feature or not?

You can change aspect ratio in the playback menu:
When playing a video: menu -> display -> aspect ratio

CDB-Man said:
You can change aspect ratio in the playback menu:
When playing a video: menu -> display -> aspect ratio
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thanks a lot for help, i find it.
but how about vertical anamorph ---> horizontal conversion?

Not sure exactly what you mean regarding Google Cardboard and vertical anamorphic. Could you give more explanation? And you can still post links, just go to advanced post reply, and uncheck automatic parsing of links.

CDB-Man said:
Not sure exactly what you mean regarding Google Cardboard and vertical anamorphic. Could you give more explanation? And you can still post links, just go to advanced post reply, and uncheck automatic parsing of links.
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i mean, i want player to work as 3D TV. samsung, lg, etc.
when i download 3d mkv to watch it on tv, it can be 2 types of files - horizontal anamorph pair.
and vertical pair
so, hardware 3d TV asked "what pair did you download? vertical or horizontal"
and makes output like this
left_eye_frame1, (left eye on 3d glasses opened, right eye closed)
right_eye_frame1, (left eye on 3d glasses closed, right eye opened)
left_eye_frame2, (left eye on 3d glasses opened, right eye closed)
right_eye_frame2, (left eye on 3d glasses closed, right eye opened)
left_eye_frame3, (left eye on 3d glasses opened, right eye closed)
right_eye_frame3, (left eye on 3d glasses closed, right eye opened)
SO, with google cardboard device (and another same devices) user can watch 3D ONLY with horizontal pair. But vertical seems to be more popular format. And all what i talking about, i ask to do feature - vertical --> horizontal conversion, to watch vertical pair 3d movie in 3d devices like google cardboard.
i hope, i talking understandably.
sorry fo my english, i'm from russia.
i have this message about links:
"To prevent spam on the XDA forums, ALL new users prevented from posting outside links in their messages. After approximately 10 posts, you will be able to post outside links. Thank you for understanding!"

You can post links by disabling auto-parse hyperlinks.
Anyways, on topic: I'm not sure how this would be implemented, or if it's an easy fix. @bleu8888 is this doable right now?

CDB-Man said:
You can post links by disabling auto-parse hyperlinks.
Anyways, on topic: I'm not sure how this would be implemented, or if it's an easy fix. @bleu8888 is this doable right now?
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thread is dead... despite of one more thread like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/mx-player/half-sbs-playback-2d-videos-t2799322

Hi MXPlayer devs,
can you add 3D under-bottom ability displaying by S/W codec for HTC Evo 3D?
This app can do it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ddd.tridef3dgallery

Hi everyone, please post/repost your question/request/comment on the new Sticky thread on this topic. This way, it's more organized and we can more easily get visibility and discussion on this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/mx-player/sticky-google-cardboard-vr-3d-videos-t2888991
This thread will now be locked.

mx player 3D to 2D convert

I want to 3D to 2D converter feature.
It was translated by Google translate

You're going to have to provide more explanation than that.

hello there,
yes i am looking for a solution as well for playing 3D (SBS or OU) movies on 2D mode with mx player (android set top box)
i thing it would be nice if there would be a simple option to crop/zoom screen and align it to just one eye stream (either half part of the movie)
(i don't like vlc player)

Peter Sebastian said:
hello there,
yes i am looking for a solution as well for playing 3D (SBS or OU) movies on 2D mode with mx player (android set top box)
i thing it would be nice if there would be a simple option to crop/zoom screen and align it to just one eye stream (either half part of the movie)
(i don't like vlc player)
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You can just use pan & zoom functions to achieve the same. BTW, we are adding more controls to zoom function to individually control vertical or horizontal zoom. You may stretch the video as you wish by using the new zoom controls.

Thirumalai.K said:
You can just use pan & zoom functions to achieve the same. BTW, we are adding more controls to zoom function to individually control vertical or horizontal zoom. You may stretch the video as you wish by using the new zoom controls.
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Thank you for your quick response!
Am i able to pan with mouse? (i mean with single pointer like air mouse)? Since i use android set top box i have no multi-touch screen ability.

[Feature Request] Internal Capture

I don't know if the title is appropriate for this request.
I mean MX Player would be better with a button to capture a shot from a video.
Why need an internal capture when Android OS already has a capture feature?
Because capture in Android OS simply interprets what is shown on the screen and saves it and I think the interpretation process is unnecessary because the data is already included in the video file. (I don't know much about video encoding/decoding, so if im wrong sorry for my ignorance on the subject) The resulting image is poor in quality and most importantly takes up TOO much space. If I capture the same scene on the same video by video playing programs (KMP, etc), I get better capture image small in size also(as much as 20 times smaller).
Another problem with Android capture is that ads (I don't know the free version still shows ads when tje video is paused) or soft-keys (although it can be hidden by the app) can be captured together.
And finally, capture is done not considering the size of the video. Android merely captures the screen as shown, the captured image's resolution is the same to the device's screen's resolution, which is a problem when playing videos with higher or lower resolutions or when the video's height-width ratio is different to that of the device's screen(4:3, 16:10, CinemaScope, etc).
So, I think it would be wonderful if you would consider including an internal capture feature in the app.
I think you're working on Frame-by-Frame feature, so I guess it can be related to that.(again, sorry if Im wrong)
Im always happily using MX Player for years and I appereciate your efforts. :laugh:

11si17bun said:
I don't know if the title is appropriate for this request.
I mean MX Player would be better with a button to capture a shot from a video.
Why need an internal capture when Android OS already has a capture feature?
Because capture in Android OS simply interprets what is shown on the screen and saves it and I think the interpretation process is unnecessary because the data is already included in the video file. (I don't know much about video encoding/decoding, so if im wrong sorry for my ignorance on the subject) The resulting image is poor in quality and most importantly takes up TOO much space. If I capture the same scene on the same video by video playing programs (KMP, etc), I get better capture image small in size also(as much as 20 times smaller).
Another problem with Android capture is that ads (I don't know the free version still shows ads when tje video is paused) or soft-keys (although it can be hidden by the app) can be captured together.
And finally, capture is done not considering the size of the video. Android merely captures the screen as shown, the captured image's resolution is the same to the device's screen's resolution, which is a problem when playing videos with higher or lower resolutions or when the video's height-width ratio is different to that of the device's screen(4:3, 16:10, CinemaScope, etc).
So, I think it would be wonderful if you would consider including an internal capture feature in the app.
I think you're working on Frame-by-Frame feature, so I guess it can be related to that.(again, sorry if Im wrong)
Im always happily using MX Player for years and I appereciate your efforts. [emoji23]
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From your description it looks like you looking for trimming feature. There are many apps are available in Google Play which can trim the video without recoding. It will do the job as you are expecting.
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ktsamy said:
From your description it looks like you looking for trimming feature. There are many apps are available in Google Play which can trim the video without recoding. It will do the job as you are expecting.
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Yes, I'm aware that there are lots of video trimming/frame break and capturing/editing apps available. But I was just thinking that it would be nicer to have a capturing (I believe it is different from trimming, since capturing is about extracting just one frame out of the video while trimming is extracting multiple continued frames and merging it) feature included in the MX Player so that I can easily watch a video and capture "a" frame without opening another app while watching a video. It is not a big and urgently needed feature, but it would make things more easier.

11si17bun said:
Yes, I'm aware that there are lots of video trimming/frame break and capturing/editing apps available. But I was just thinking that it would be nicer to have a capturing (I believe it is different from trimming, since capturing is about extracting just one frame out of the video while trimming is extracting multiple continued frames and merging it) feature included in the MX Player so that I can easily watch a video and capture "a" frame without opening another app while watching a video. It is not a big and urgently needed feature, but it would make things more easier.
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It's my mistake. Apologizes for that. I have misunderstood the word Capture.
Anyway I will convey your request about frame extraction/capture feature to the developer.
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