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Another creation of mine.
This is a blank live wallpaper that allows you to set your own video as a live wallpaper animation!
Lots of codecs and formats are supported.
You need to have your own video (preferably in MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 or divx) and set it in the Live Wallpaper's preferences. You can also set an entire folder (and optionally all its subfolders) and the Live Wallpaper will choose between all videos inside (randomly or not, your choice).
If you don't have any videos to play with, try this one or this one or this one. Download them with your computer and transfer them on your Android device, or downoad with the Android device directly (a common download destination is /sdcard/download). Then select one of them with the Video Live Wallpaper. (BTW, these videos are all reencoded electric sheeps designed by cqfd93 of the electric sheep project. Original links to the sheeps: 22906|22706|22551)
The preferences of the Video Live Wallpaper include Help which should help you get started with making your video(s) as live-wallpaper-friendly as possible. A copy of the same help document can also be accessed from here if you want.
Use the following link on your android device or scan this QR code:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Alternatively, you can get the Video Live Wallpaper from this link:
VLW-084b.apk [via mediafire]
Or you can get it from the bottom of this post if you are registrered to xda-developers.
0.84b is the most current version.
Changelog:
0.84b, published 2011-03-20 [from post 36]
- fixed a bug which prevented this app from working on certain devices like Dell Streak (thanks to guyver3869 for testing)
- fixed a minor memory usage bug, still working on the bigger one
0.83b, published 2010-12-06 [from post 30]
- fixed a bug where memory consumption would slowly raise and eventually crashed the app
- a new feature/setting called Rendering mode is introduced
0.82b, published 2010-10-13 [from post 13]
- fixed a bug where changelog kept showing in settings. Sorry about this!
0.81b, published 2010-10-13 [from post 13]
- fixed a bug where selecting certain directories would cause force closes
- fixed a bug where selecting a different video file would have no effect (thanks to rod for discovering the bug)
- corrected grammatical errors in help
0.8b, published 2010-10-09 [from post 3]
- initial version
Frequently asked questions - FAQ
I've downloaded and installed it. How do I open it?
This is a live wallpaper, not an app, you can't open it in a traditional sense. That is why the market button is disabled and that is why there is no app icon.
Follow this procedure to set it as a live wallpaper:
go to your home screen
press the menu button on your device
select "Wallpaper"
select "Live Wallpapers" *
search and select for "Video Live Wallpaper"
select "Settings" to see the settings and select the video file to play back. Then select "Set wallpaper" to activate it
(* if you don't see "Live Wallpapers" option in the "Select wallpaper from" menu then your device probably doesn't support Live Wallpapers)
My video loads but it's very jerky/looses frames alot, and it makes the home screen app very slow. What to do?
Not every codec and format is the best choice for the Video Live Wallpaper. The maximum video resolution recommended is 854x480, the maximum FPS at that resolution is 20. You can go as high as 30, but then decrease the resolution. MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MJPEG and MPEG-4 are the best codecs to choose for, while x263 and x264 are two of the worst possible ones because they are complex. If you have your video in a .flv or .mp4 format, try converting them to .mpg or .avi. In any case, please read this page (also embedded in the live wallpaper's help) to learn which kinds of videos are good and which aren't.
Why is there no sound? Will sound ever be supported?
Sound will likely never be supported, because:
it's extremely hard (with some codecs even impossible) to sync live wallpaper video to its audio due to how live wallpapers are handled (they often have to pause, they are often killed or slowed down by android in order to make swiping look smoother, for example, etc.)
sound just doesn't belong in an app that would play it all the time (or at least all the time that you're on a home screen). Shorter non-spontanious sounds are fine in a live wallpaper, but a long-lasting sound that never stops just starts to annoy the user after a while. Imagine for example you're in a meeting/at your job/in class and you can't even check the time on your phone without interrupting the said event. Imagine someone calling you and you suddenly hear two sounds out of your phone. Imagine listening to mp3s and being in the home menu at the same time. Sound just shoudn't be a part of any live wallpaper.
Please enable Move to SD.
No. Live wallpapers shouln't be movable to the SD. To learn why, read the official developer guide by Google.
Why does this Live wallpaper require internet access?
It's to download and show ads. They appear in the Live wallpaper's settings.
I can't find this on the market. Where is it?
Try to access it on your device directly using this link. If your Market can't find it then you probably have a version of Android prior to 2.1 which doesn't support Live Wallpapers.
I've downloaded the APK but I don't know how to/can't install it. How do I do it?
Try this:
on the phone, go to Settings -> Applications -> check "Unknown sources" *
find yourself a file browser on the Market. ASTRO File Manager is a good choice
open your file browser app, search for the APK file on your SD card and launch it. The phone should offer you a dialog to install the live wallpaper (or to select the Package Installer)
later when installed, go to home screen, press the menu key, select Wallpaper -> Live Wallpapers, search for Video Live Wallpaper
(* if your phone doesn't show the "Unknown sources" option, your carrier has disabled it. You might want to try one of the APK sideloading applications instead, like this one (you need a PC))
I can't download the APK. My phone says "Cannot download. The content is not supported on this phone". What to do?
Try downloading the app from the market first. If you can't, then download the APK with your computer and transfer the APK to the phone's SD Card. Or download with your phone using a downloading app, like ByteTornado.
This LWP is very cool. Thanks! How can I contribute?
In a number of ways:
by contacting me if you have any issues, not mentioned in this FAQ
by saying thanks
by buying me a cup of coffee or a pizza
great job! trying this now
Awesome job, it does work with some mp4 videos too, just a thought, you can try adding zoom out and timed
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Sounds great, but how much does it hammer the battery?
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Sounds great, but how much does it hammer the battery?
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i havent seen too much battery drain with this so so far so good.
@OP are there any ideal settings for the best quality or performance?
trying this now, has google added slovenia to to market list (so you can release paid apps on market?)
very cool app Good job.
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i havent seen too much battery drain with this so so far so good.
@OP are there any ideal settings for the best quality or performance?
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Depends on the codec of the video. Mpeg1, mpeg2, mjpeg and divx are amongst the best, x264 (mp4) is not great because it's complex to decode. See help for details for the best codecs and resolutions/frame rates. Or just do the similar to the sample videos: 560x420 (4:3), 20 fps (can go up to 23.976), divx codec, 2500-3500 kbps.
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Awesome job, it does work with some mp4 videos too, just a thought, you can try adding zoom out and timed
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A tough one, since the rendering is heavily optimized on the idea that the entire video doesn't have to be decoded.
What do you mean by timed?
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trying this now, has google added slovenia to to market list (so you can release paid apps on market?)
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No, not yet (what a shame since we're in EU, we can't even buy paid apps yet).
awesome app!!!
LWP is added to the market. The link and the QR code are added to the first post.
Just downloaded, it seems very interesting!!
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New version published:
0.82b, published 2010-10-13
- fixed a bug where changelog kept showing in settings. Sorry about this!
0.81b, published 2010-10-13
- fixed a bug where selecting certain directories would cause force closes
- fixed a bug where selecting a different video file would have no effect (thanks to rod for discovering the bug)
- corrected grammatical errors in help
Great app and premise, but imo doesn't really seem worth it since the quality of the video and fps have to be lowered so much. I'll go ahead and download this to see just how much the quality is degraded as I've got some great hidef videos I wouldn't mind having as wallpaper. Has this been an issue with anyone else?
I haven't had a problem with the fps of any of the 720p youtube vids I've downloaded, though 720p ends up looking pixellated. 270x360 looks better. Using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92jyNSaNmT4 and it looks pretty good.
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Great app and premise, but imo doesn't really seem worth it since the quality of the video and fps have to be lowered so much. I'll go ahead and download this to see just how much the quality is degraded as I've got some great hidef videos I wouldn't mind having as wallpaper. Has this been an issue with anyone else?
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No reason not to try and experiment. For example on my Nexus, a 1280x720 video in MPEG-1 format will play at about 15 FPS if I disable frame skipping.
If I wanted it faster, I could crop it down to 720x720, which would then be able to be played at 20 FPS.
If I cropped it down further to 432x720 (which is the same ratio as the phone's 480x800 display), it would easily play at 25 FPS which is enough for my eyes, but still in full display's resolution.
If you know how to use ffmpeg, then this command will crop and convert a 720p .mkv file down to 720x720 at 20 FPS .mpg:
Code:
ffmpeg -i "720-input.mkv" -an -vcodec mpeg1video -vb 8000k -vf "crop=280:0:720:720" -r 20 "720-output.mpg"
Or this command would crop it to 432x720 at 25 FPS:
Code:
ffmpeg -i "720-input.mkv" -an -vcodec mpeg1video -vb 8000k -vf "crop=424:0:432:720" -r 25 "720-output.mpg"
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I haven't had a problem with the fps of any of the 720p youtube vids I've downloaded, though 720p ends up looking pixellated. 270x360 looks better. Using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92jyNSaNmT4 and it looks pretty good.
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Wicket video!
Flv and Mp4, while they work, are not the best formats to use with VLW. Try to convert them to .avi (divx) or .mpg (MPEG-1) for even better results.
Find your own way to convert, or use the free ffmpeg tool in one of the following two ways:
Code:
ffmpeg -i "original.flv" -an -vcodec mpeg4 -vb 8000k "converted.avi"
ffmpeg -i "original.flv" -an -vcodec mpeg1video -vb 8000k "converted.mpg"
(bitrate is overrated at 8000k, but the quality will probably be very good)
Thanks for the info, I'll definately give it a try!
Would any one care to donate a little time to make a video tutorial on how to use this live wallpaper? How to select a file to play, how to select an entire folder, what options are there, what video sizes are bad, etc...
I would embed it in the main web page of the app (and of course thank the author):
http://android.ccpcreations.com/vlw/
best video specs
Hello pikipirs et all!
I donatated $10 bucks because I really like the idea of true video wallpaper on my N1 and hope that you continue to develop and improve the app!
One can find lots of great video loops on the net that can be used. Some of them look great (i.e. Wallpaper attachment). Others look poor quality (i.e fs21 attachment). And others stop all together sometimes.
So I guess what I would like is simple, step by step instructions on how to convert or optimize a video so that it looks great and runs smoothly. I've tried using MediaCoder for example to convert the videos that look bad to MPEG1 (which you indicated in the help section was the best format) but they still look bad. What is the best format? Size? Resolution? Frame-rate? So that it looks perfect and how can one convert a video to these specifications? Can any video, formatted correctly, look good?
Oh and another suggestion would be, instead of the app randomly picking videos and switching them all the time, what about the option to only switch it when you 'wake-up' the device so that it doesn't cut into another video while you are viewing it but continues to loop.
Thanks again for the great app. Like I said some vids I've found look great but still, it would be nice to know how to make any video look as good.
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Hello pikipirs et all!
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Hey.
Bryce2010 said:
I donatated $10 bucks because I really like the idea of true video wallpaper on my N1 and hope that you continue to develop and improve the app!
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Thanks.
Bryce2010 said:
One can find lots of great video loops on the net that can be used. Some of them look great (i.e. Wallpaper attachment). Others look poor quality (i.e fs21 attachment). And others stop all together sometimes.
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Be prepared for a long answer.
This is subjective, I guess. The video will show in as good a quality as it actually is. The VLW (video live wallpaper) always zooms into a video in such a way that it covers the entire height of the display, while its ratio is not changed. The video's width is then used as scrolling surface so it shifts when you swipe between home screens.
The first video you posted has a vertical resolution of 480. This resolution fits very well in the height of a small mobile display (whatever resolution it might be) so you don't see alot of pixels. In fact, 480 is the maximum vertical resolution that I recommend for VLW, as higher ones might start causing the animation to play slower/skip video frames.
The second video you posted has a vertical resolution of 220. This gets close to the lower bound of acceptible pixel density for your eyes. While this is good on your phone's battery (VLW doesn't have to struggle as much to decode the video), it's not good on you eyes, that is, you can see video pixels which spoils the experience. One idea that I would have for the second video is maybe to reencode it rotated by 90 degrees. This way its vertical resolution will become 400 (current width) which would be easier on the eyes. (hold back on the rotating/reencoding part a little longer, as I plan on adding an option to rotate videos in the VLW).
Videos may play slower or even stop if they are too large for the underpowered phone's processor to handle. If you've been using computers for the last 10 years, then you should remember the ones that struggled to even play divx files properly. Some computers (like netbooks) have problems playing back HD content even today. The same is true for your phone. While a common divx should be handled by VLW just fine, any HD content (720p or 1080p) is way to much to handle. I guess what I'm trying to say is, don't go overboard with the resolution and don't expect miracles from your phone's processor.
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So I guess what I would like is simple, step by step instructions on how to convert or optimize a video so that it looks great and runs smoothly. I've tried using MediaCoder for example to convert the videos that look bad to MPEG1 (which you indicated in the help section was the best format) but they still look bad. What is the best format? Size? Resolution? Frame-rate? So that it looks perfect and how can one convert a video to these specifications? Can any video, formatted correctly, look good?
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There is no easy way to describe how to convert videos, as it almost always depends on the original video itself. As I said, a video is as good as it actually is. Reencoding, converting and/or enlarging it digitally won't make it any nicer.
Format changing is reasonable when you are dealing with resolutions and sizes that become hard to handle by the phone. Imagine a video with 854x480 at 30 FPS (your usual 480p video on youtube, for example). VLW has to process 854*480*30=12,297,600 pixels each second if it wants to play the video in real time. If this video is in h264 (which 480p youtube videos with .mp4 extension are) then it's even worse because h264 codec is very complex, which makes the processing part even harder. That's why I recommend reencoding to a less complex format, like mpeg-1 or mpeg-4 (divx).
Best format globally in my opinion is divx (mpeg-4 .avi). It represents a good compromise between complexity and size for a given quality. If you want less complexity (=more battery live), go with videoCD format (mpeg-1 .mpg) which will require larger files for the same quality, but is easier to decode for VLW.
Also one other thing to note, .mpg files need a bit of time to reload. This makes them useless for looping animations as the animation appears to freeze when looping. This is true for a lot of other formats/codecs as well. Divx doesn't have that pause (well it does, but it's amost unnoticable).
Resolution/frame rate is another tough one. The easiest way of going about it is to calculate the processed pixels per second, as I did above for the youtube video example. You can find all the help on how to do this in the help section. If you get your videos from standard 16:9 or 4:3 sources, then a couple of good resolution/framerate combinations are described in the help section. I recommend 360p (640x360 for 16:9, 480x360 for 4:3 videos, both at 30 FPS) or 480p (854x480 for 16:9, 640x480 for 4:3 videos, both at 25 FPS) in divx format. Remember once again - the biggest factor in the appearent quality of a perfectly reencoded video, is its vertical resolution. be between 360 and 480 and you'll be fine. The second biggest factor is frame rate, hold that one between 30FPS for 360p and 25FPS for 480p.
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Oh and another suggestion would be, instead of the app randomly picking videos and switching them all the time, what about the option to only switch it when you 'wake-up' the device so that it doesn't cut into another video while you are viewing it but continues to loop.
Thanks again for the great app. Like I said some vids I've found look great but still, it would be nice to know how to make any video look as good.
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So you suggest adding an option to keep looping the same (but randomly choosen) video, and switch to another video only when the live wallpaper unpauses? That's a good idea. To a todo list...
PS: Are you on a mac or on Windows? I might be able to make a couple of simple scripts that use FFmpeg to convert videos with common ratios to better sizes/formats.
I'm sure you noticed that when you record a 720p/1080p video with a smartphone, the bitrate will be pretty high, in the 10-15Mbps area.
This is not really necessary if you watch the videos just on your smartphone or on a limited size LCD TV, and you can just recompress it using x264 codec at about 2Mbps without severe quality loss (unless it's a sport video).
However you'll notice severe audio video out-of-sync issues if you compress both audio and video tracks and DON'T CHOOSE MP4 (which is the default container for the videos recorded by the smartphone) as default container for your x264 video.
Furthermore, if you want to compress and then JOIN different videos, you have to compress them one by one and THEN join them, otherwise you'll notice glitches in the playback.
I tried with mkv and avi but I kept having sync issues, so I thought that it was worth to share this tip.
SUPER @ video conversion program
Have you tried a video conversion program called SUPER @? Here's its link:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
The program can be pretty intensive in terms of memory used but it usually does a great job for me and bitrates can be chosen for just any vid type you might want to save to. Usually, I turn off my internet connection prior to executing it (so it can't do an update check) and run it by itself.
Yep, I guess it's something similar to Wondershare Video Converter Ultimate, it's just that I prefer more control over encoding parameters (so I tend to use programs such as Avidemux)
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Yep, I guess it's something similar to Wondershare Video Converter Ultimate, it's just that I prefer more control over encoding parameters (so I tend to use programs such as Avidemux)
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You've probably already thought of this but you can load your video in virtualdubmod and have it change framerate so video and audio match perfectly.
No re encoding needed and even on large files it takes less than a minute or two.
If you find virtualdubmod won't recognise the video you can download a suitable vfw codec and it should then.
Dave
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The problem is that vdubmod won't help, because framerate is not constant and it varies from some 19 to 30fps, at least on Vibrant.
In a lot of cases the fps number gets lost during encoding (and you'll obtain a video which has a constant framerate of 29.97fps), because softwares such as Avidemux doesn't have an option to leave the FPS untouched (or at least it seems that the fps number gets lost if you want to use MKV as container).
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The problem is that vdubmod won't help, because framerate is not constant and it varies from some 19 to 30fps, at least on Vibrant.
In a lot of cases the fps number gets lost during encoding (and you'll obtain a video which has a constant framerate of 29.97fps), because softwares such as Avidemux doesn't have an option to leave the FPS untouched (or at least it seems that the fps number gets lost if you want to use MKV as container).
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I've used it in similar situations so it might be worth a try as it doesn't need a constant framerate, it looks at the audio length then adjusts video framerate to match.
If it is just a problem created while actually recording, ie if the video itself records at varying framerates it would suggest that it can't write to storage quick enough and is dropping frames.
In that case you would need to record in lower resolution or perhaps find a replacement camera application and see if that could fix your problem as sometimes default apps are not all that good.
It also makes a difference if you can close un needed background apps to free ram if low on memory. That can cause frames to drop as well.
Dave
( http://www.google.com/producer/editions/CAownKXmAQ/bigfatuniverse )
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Actually it seems that the framerate is lower in case of dark scenes, which seems to be a behaviour found on other phones. I'm writing on the internal storage and I always kill everything before taking a video, so I gotta try another Camera app and see if anything changes.
I'll also take a look at that interesting vdubmod feature, I didn't know it.
Thanks.
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Actually it seems that the framerate is lower in case of dark scenes, which seems to be a behaviour found on other phones. I'm writing on the internal storage and I always kill everything before taking a video, so I gotta try another Camera app and see if anything changes.
I'll also take a look at that interesting vdubmod feature, I didn't know it.
Thanks.
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Is there a setting where you can change encoding parameters of your x264 on your phone?
On a pc the codec has a feature that can compress more data per frame in darker areas, on a phone I don't know if that is active or not but might be worth checking. Sorry I couldn't help more but hope you find a solution.
Dave
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Is there anyway to reduce the video size of Android
You can use MX Player to see videos and change the zoom to more or less by pinching the screen, just like when viewing a picture. There is other gesture support too like changing the volume and brightness. All in all its probably the best video player for Android...
If you are by chance referring to the screen resolution to make your screen smaller for all of your Android display and not just while vieweing videos, then you need to root your phone and use an app like NOMone Resolution Changer
Thnks for replying... but besicaly I want to know that how to reduce the size of camera's video file without reduce the quality. Why Android makes a captured video file size so bigger then its quality and lenth.. Is there any patch for it ??
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Thnks for replying... but besicaly I want to know that how to reduce the size of camera's video file without reduce the quality. Why Android makes a captured video file size so bigger then its quality and lenth.. Is there any patch for it ??
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Oh well i don't know for android
But on PC you can convert the video file to smaller file size
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Thnks for replying... but besicaly I want to know that how to reduce the size of camera's video file without reduce the quality. Why Android makes a captured video file size so bigger then its quality and lenth.. Is there any patch for it ??
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Oh I see! Sorry about that haha!
There are many apps you can use for video file conversion similar to how you would do it on a PC. One such app is Video Compressor, but you can search for many on Play Store if you type in keywords like 'video file size reduce' or 'video converter' etc.
However, if you are sharing on Whatsapp then it automatically reduces the size greatly and before sending and it happens quite fast somehow as opposed to using a video converter. There is no apparent loss of quality as long as you are seeing that video on a phone screen I suppose. If I want to share the video on something other than Whatsapp, what I usually do is Whatsapp it to myself to another phone or to my brother's/friend's phone and then share that file.
I really think Whatsapp has a very good and fast video converter built into their app which they should offer separately!
steps to reduce the video size
1. After installing Video Converter Android on your device, launch it and import the video you would like to shrink. After you select the video, tap the Convert option at the bottom of the screen.
2.Select Manual profile to convert the video and reduce the resolution, bitrate and FPS of the video. The recommended settings while reducing the size of the video is 176×144, 800 and 23.98 respectively. Leave every other settings as it is and convert the video.
The tool will process the video and reduce its size considerably. If the receiver will view the video on the device itself, he will hardly notice the reduced quality. After the conversion is complete you will see the video in the Android Gallery from where you can share it on WhatsApp or at any other social network.
Thank you all for your helpful suggestions :angel::angel::angel::angel:
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Hello, everyone‼:laugh:
Thank you for reading this.
Almost any phone of today has a Slow-Motion / High-Framerate feature.
Well, i've got nothing agianst it but there's something about it that truly sucks.
Here's my old thread about this.
The Bad method:
You Record: 00H:00M:10s@240fps (Resolution doesn't matter)
You get a Video with 80 Seconds @ 30fps
...and Muted Audio ♫♪
So that â–ºx1.0 isn't realtime!
Well, the iPhones record in realtime, but they can only record for 20 Seconds (real time equilevant)
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With the iPhone 5S camera software, you can edit your video to active slowmotion or not on the timeline ... how to do this with the Note 3?
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Yes, you're right!
...but the Smartphones which use the sucking method of taking Slow-Motion Videos encode the output file being Slown Down.
The one and only advantage of this method, is for Media-Players which haven't got a Fast/Slow motion playback mode so that â–ºx1.0 makes the Slow Motion Effect Visible.
But i'd like to have â–ºx1.0 is Realtime-Equivalent!
So the Correct way in my opinion [IMO] is this:
If you Record 00:00:[email protected]
The Output File must be also 00:00:10 encoded at 204FPS and with ♪♫ Audio from ALL Microphones of the Phone!
Also some other Devices use the WRONG Method:
Lumix FƵ1000 - Great Camera but Slow Motion Feature uses WRONG WAY.
Canon IXUS 255 HS
But those Devices use a Good Method!
Sony RX100/3
Canon Powershot 510HS and 50HS
Sony FDR-AX100
Samsung NX1 (i think)
Example Videos ? :
Good
Only 720p BUT
XAVCS
And Audio
And Realtime
BAD
1080p but...
No XAVCS
Not Realtime
Muted Audio
Sucks
All Example Videos are taken by DKamera.dé!
Feel free posting your opinion! :laugh:
All the best Have a good and nice day ...
High Framerate Recording
Has anybody an Opinion about this?
There are many users who want Audio on Slow-Motion.
That, what i described there ↑↑↑, also covers this.
I'd be thankful for some feedback on my suggestion.
It's also nice, if every media player in the world has following features:
Speed Up / Slow Down
If adjust speed, enable/disable adjusting Sound Pitch
...so that 120FPS with output file encoded to 30FPS and muted sound is not there anymore
With â–ºx1.0 i mean Original Playback Speed of the Output File.
I'd always like to have 1.0x Playback Speed being Realtime-equivalent and Sound from every microphone that the device has (not just 2), independent from the Video's Framarate . (And no time limit until the Deices Battery/Storage runs out)
Example: Samsung's Galaxy Note 3 and Note 4 have 3 Microphones. But they do only use them all for the Sound-Memo and only 2 for video recording. They also record Slow-Motion the wrong way
Feel free giving your Feedback
Slow Motion - Redefined :·) (•:
I'd always like the Output file being always RealTime â–ºx1.0
That means, that i'd always like to get an Output File to be Real-Time-equivalent at x1.0 Playback Speed.
â–º1.0 to be Real Time Speed
And surely Audio from all Microphones of the device
(In FLAC Format, 1.6 Mbit/S )
(See Video04.Mp4✔)
Just like [email protected]
If i record 00:00:[email protected] then i'd also like to have an output file with 0:00:[email protected]FPS with sound.
...and not 00:00:[email protected]FPS without sound.
It feels like Recording REAL [email protected]FPS, i don't know how to explain.
Just like normal Video Recording but with a Higher Framerate - not additionally encoded to be slown down so that Original â–ºx1.0 Playback Speed is 0.25x Real Time Speed or 0.125x.
And also see this
Scroll down to see what i mean.
GSMArena Blog said:
The slow motion clips might look cool on your iPhone, but they look quite disappointing on a TV or a monitor. Which reminds us of our other disappointment about the feature – when we tried to play those iPhone 5s slo-mo videos on a PC we found that unlike all previous slow motion-capable smartphones, the iPhone 5s actually encodes the video at 120 fps and your computer will play it on 120fps unless you explicitly force it to slow the video four times in order to achieve the desired slow-motion effect. It would have been way more natural the iPhone 5s to process the frames and output a standard 30fps video as most of the phones do, which doesn’t require special players and tools to play properly.
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They've got another Opinion. But their described opinion is caused by the only advantage of the sucking way to take Slow-Motion Videos.
Here’s hoping Apple fixes this promptly with an update – it certainly can’t be that hard.
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I hope not so lol
Sensor output / Output File
The Output File should have the same framerate, as the Sensor is Capturing.
(Exceptionally HDR-Video. HDR Video needs a Higher Framerate/Sensor Speed but the Outputfile is still Realtime at â–ºx1.0 )
ï´¾From my Old Threadï´¿:
celderic said:
Suprised this hasn't been mentioned before, this will be very useful.
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Wow, really? Not mentioned befre?
But yes, it will be very useful :laugh:
Many Smartphone Manufacturers write in their User Manuals, that Slow Motion Recording with Audio {Sound} Recording is not possible.
So why don't manufacturers simply use the method for Slow Motion Videos that i Described?
Maybe it's just because of the „One and Only advantge of the Sucking way to take Slow Motion Videos:“
Not every player has an Adjustable Playback Speed--.....
The Galaxy K Ƶooom has also a Menu Option for PlayBack Speed for the Ouptut File.
But you only can use the 120FPS-Mode @ ¼ or ⅛ Speed for Output File, but i'd prefer it always to be x1.
I'd like 1x Playback Speed to be Real-Time Equilevant.
Accordingly, Every Player should have a Manually Settable Playback Speed, Sound Pinch, Reverse and Recording Feature.
VLC Media Player has ¾ it all - exceptionally the Reverse◄ Playback Feature.
If manufacturers fix this slow motion problem, have fun
Optical Flow / If you really want... / Video Converting,, Video Converters, Applicato
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/slopro-1000fps-slow-motion/id507232505?mt=8
This iOS-App uses Optical Flow.
I hope this app also uses ?▶► Real Slow Motion...
If you REALLY want the Output file to be not â–º1.o Realtime, then you can convert it after recording it into a second file.
There are Programs to do that.
Most Famous: AVS Video Converter
Most User-Friendly and Free: FreeMake Price: €0.00
Have Fun/NiceDay/ All the best ♥:laugh:
Correction :
Correctiõn:
The NX1 also uses the Wrong way.
http://www.dkamera.de/media/testberichte/samsung/nx1/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video04.MP4
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There's a very high Request on Slow Motion-Audio and being able to adjust the Playback Speed in the Media Player.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4/464112-slow-motion-video-sound.html
I also don't understand, why manufacturers use the Way for taking Slow Motion Videos that i mentioned, because the other frequent way sucks.
Isn't there an app, which can record slow-motion videos the way i mentioned?
However, the iPhones only use Mono-Audio for any kind of Video-Recording. Horrible.
Sony:
Their Cameras (RX100 and FDR-AX100E etc.) record slow Motion the Proper Way. Congratiulations!
But their Smartphones only allow editing before saving - once saved, you can't adjust any speeds anymore.
Canon:
Newer models like SX50 HS and 510 HS use the right way - even for 240 fps - no specific time limit!. Respect!
But the beautiful SX255 HS also sucks recording them - 120 and 240 fps. And there's a limit of 20 Seconds (in Real-Time.)
Conclusion:
There are many - also free Video-Editing Programs for adjust the speed and Sound-Pitch (Pitchbend) of vidéos - so there's (almost) no reason for the (i call it the sucking way) of recording slow motion videos. (Only reason is the missing Playback Speed Pitch in many Media Players. S5+ aka S5 LTE A had it - from x0.5 up to x1.5 Playback Speed - even for 4k-Videos up to 61.2 mBit/s Bitrate!)
And also - setting playback is a small additional step before enjoying the Motion but if this step is too much, you're lazy.
Concluson
I wanted to send (post) this message 20 Minutes before already - but i forgot to press the Sumbit-Button :laugh:
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Galaxy S6
Finally Samsung did it:
I'm rather disappointed from the S6 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3044369 )
but finally, the Galaxy S6 does the RIGHT WAY of Slow Motion Recording.
Thanks god!!!!!!
GSMArena said:
Finally, in Slow motion mode the camera goes back up to 48Mbps but is now shooting 720p @ 120fps. Videos are actually recorded at 120fps, but you can edit them on the phone - trim beginning and end and choose between half, quarter and eighth playback speed. Here's how it looks when we drop to 30fps (playing at a quarter of real time speed).
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I hope the Slow Motion also includes Audio.
Confirmed:
The S6 records Slow Motion WITH Audio and Realtime - like iPhone and SX50 and 510 HS and also RX100m3 (aka RX100 III)
GSMAréna
I was reading a Review on GSMArena.
Then i saw this:
A note about formats - the iPhone records and saves 720p videos with 240fps framerate so you'll need to either edit them on the phone to create the slowdown effect or use a video editor on your computer, just copying them would only get you an extra smooth normal speed video. The Galaxy Alpha videos are slowed down to 30fps so the slow motion is easy to share. There's an option to slow the videos down to 15fps, which matches the iPhones 8x slowdown but the result isn't as smooth
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With the Galaxy S6, Samsung finally goes the Right way, because you can Export a Version of your Video, that is actually Edited and Costumized yourself, to share or so...
It's always recomennded to keep the Original Slow Motion Video File with the Audio and the Real-Time.
The Galaxy S6 has no MicroSD-Card, no Changable battery, etc........
But in Slow Motion, the Galaxy S6 is finally the right thing.
I mentioned the Galaxy S6-Disadvantages right here.
The FDR-AX100E also uses the right way.
Hannah Stern said:
I was reading a Review on GSMArena.
Then i saw this:
With the Galaxy S6, Samsung finally goes the Right way, because you can Export a Version of your Video, that is actually Edited and Costumized yourself, to share or so...
It's always recomennded to keep the Original Slow Motion Video File with the Audio and the Real-Time.
The Galaxy S6 has no MicroSD-Card, no Changable battery, etc........
But in Slow Motion, the Galaxy S6 is finally the right thing.
I mentioned the Galaxy S6-Disadvantages right here.
The FDR-AX100E also uses the right way.
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The Exporting Feature in the Video editor isn't even at the iPhones.
I wish, Samsung already did this with a good phone like the Note 3 or so...
Wow, look at that:
http://hispeedcams.com/fz1000-crippled-high-speed-mode/
Slo-Mo-Calculator
Asks me for Desired Playback Speed? Lol....
Hannah said:
"Playback-Framerate" should be like "Shooting Frame Rate"
and "Time shot in Seconds" should be exactly identical as "Clip Playback Time"
And also, all Microphones should be used, to record the video.
Understand, what i mean?
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For Galaxy S6 users (very rare):
Too bad, that so many older phones cam't set the playback speed in the mediaplayer, so if there's trouble, sharing your high-framerate-videos, you can edit the parts with the lower playback speed and export the shareable video, and keep the original real-time HFR Clip.
That's exactly, what i wish, every manufactueres do.
Simply make a Video Editor and Set Playback Speed, instead of recording the HFR Video the wrong "sucking" way.....
Hannah Stern said:
Well, the iPhones record in realtime, but they can only record for 20 Seconds (real time equilevant)
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Oops, that was a Demo-Unit.....
LG G3, G4 and Oppo Find 7 also apply with my standards.
Doesn't the VLC beta have the slow down / speed up controls
VLC Media Player - Speed Controls
Kevingoot1 said:
Doesn't the VLC beta have the slow down / speed up controls
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Maybe it's just because of the New Design. In the Extras (or Tools) you can costumize the VLC-Design/User Interface or go to the Playback-Menu.
Try with this file:
http://www.dkamera.de/media/testber...100-iii/6_beispielaufnahmen/video/video05.MP4
This Video File does comply with the Standards.
Treat like normal
I just like this type of recording the videos at a high framerate, because it treats Video Recording with a high fromerate as normal video recording. Just with a higher framerate.
Many devices have the ability to treat 1080p with 60 fps as normal video recording.
I was wondering if there's a posibility to record in slow-mo with my K900...
Am I the only one that notices that you can be taking pictures and the as soon as you switch to video mode the video gets in real close and almost fills in the whole screen. This is crazy and annoying. Is there any way to turn this off? Maybe a setting that fixed this issue?
No, this is a hardware issue.
The answer is in this post:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s7/686490-does-anyone-use-video-stabilization.html
So what we need at least is a frame on screen showing us the exact video frame that will be recorded. Only that way we can aim correctly before pushing the record button.
Bright.Light said:
So what we need at least is a frame on screen showing us the exact video frame that will be recorded. Only that way we can aim correctly before pushing the record button.
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Not sure if you carefully read the information from the link I posted. You can already achieve that now.
ssj100 said:
Not sure if you carefully read the information from the link I posted. You can already achieve that now.
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I did read the ' answer' carefully, but setting the camera to 16:9 is unacceptable and definately not what I meant.
I just mean that I want a (colored?) frame of 16:9 on the display as guideline to show exactly what I will record when I start recording.
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I did read the ' answer' carefully, but setting the camera to 16:9 is unacceptable and definately not what I meant.
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Why is it unacceptable? You can still choose to take photos in 4:3. Whenever you want to record video, you have to switch it to 16:9 if you don't want the zooming effect (if you've set it at 4:3, then the phone automatically records in 16:9, hence the zoom) - the phone can only record video in 16:9 aspect ratio, so that's by design. The same goes with other flagship phones like the Nexus 6P and iPhone 6.
And by the way, taking photos in 16:9 gives exactly the same quality as 4:3. The only difference is there is less field of view with 16:9, relatively. Personally, I just set the camera at 16:9 by default. If I really require more field of view (rare instances for me), it's not hard to tap the phone twice to select the 4:3 setting. And because 16:9 is default for me, I don't have to manually change it if I want to record video accurately (without the zooming) etc. It suits me nicely, as I often record video. Furthermore, 16:9 photos take up the full screen on the actual phone, laptop, PC and TV for me, without the need to waste precious time editing.
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Why is it unacceptable? You can still choose to take photos in 4:3. Whenever you want to record video, you have to switch it to 16:9 if you don't want the zooming effect (if you've set it at 4:3, then the phone automatically records in 16:9, hence the zoom) - the phone can only record video in 16:9 aspect ratio, so that's by design. The same goes with other flagship phones like the Nexus 6P and iPhone 6.
And by the way, taking photos in 16:9 gives exactly the same quality as 4:3. The only difference is there is less field of view with 16:9, relatively. Personally, I just set the camera at 16:9 by default. If I really require more field of view (rare instances for me), it's not hard to tap the phone twice to select the 4:3 setting. And because 16:9 is default for me, I don't have to manually change it if I want to record video accurately (without the zooming) etc. It suits me nicely, as I often record video. Furthermore, 16:9 photos take up the full screen on the actual phone, laptop, PC and TV for me, without the need to waste precious time editing.
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I prefer to see higher and lower too on my photo's. If I don't need it, I can remove it, but it's impossible to stitch that later on.
So, I should stick with 4:3, but then I will miss the correct frame for video. If you have kids, you should know that switching quickly is very important. What should be easier than to show two lines at the 19:6 position? When video recordging starts, I wouldn't mind if then that frame blows up.
So, for me the current working is weird, annoying and it seems to make it a bit slower. But, let's stop like this, each and every customer has his own thoughts about this and that's ok.
All good. The camera is just for fun for me. Maximum convenience is the theme here. And that's a "set and forget" 16:9 ratio for everything, and I know exactly what's included in the frame when I'm taking it etc. For my purposes, editing photos is a waste of time. I'd rather spend that time actually interacting with the "kids" etc. But totally agree, whatever makes you happy in the end.