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Buying a stolen phone

Hey guys,what's up?
I was having a conversation with a friend of mine the other day and he told me this:He found some guy who was selling some phones(well not only one,but he happened to speak to this guy) that were stolen,most probably from shipments or shops' warehouses/stocks.Said phones included a Galaxy S,an iPhone 3GS etc,and he was selling them for like 50 euros.My friend told me he was tempted to buy one of them but he didn't in the end.However the question came to me:Is it okay if someone bought such a device?I know that it's not morally right,that's not what I wanna know.What I want to know is whether buying such a phone hides any dangers.Can the company(for example Samsung) trace them?Do they know they've been stolen?Could someone who bought one of them get in trouble,and if yes,how?
Thanks in advance guys!
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+1. i too would like to know about the repercussions because there are SO MANY Nexus S' on craigslist without a battery cover. its very tempting to get one :]

reflux said:
+1. i too would like to know about the repercussions because there are SO MANY Nexus S' on craigslist without a battery cover. its very tempting to get one :]
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Yeah...It is damn tempting!50 euros for a Galaxy S?God,if there's no problem I'll be seriously thinking about buying one!
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If the IMEI or SN have been reported as stolen then the company you try to register the phone will see that it's blacklisted and most likely 1)deny you service and/or 2) report you to the authorities.

Holy ****...
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XDA doesn't allow discussion about stolen phones.
They can easily be traced, and network location can be used to locate the user, if the police wish to take you in for a "little chat".
Not something to get involved in. You could end up with a criminal record for handling stolen goods, or worse...

[Q] Advice on cheap tablet for child

My 9-year-old daughter really wants a tablet, and I'm considering getting her one of the ultra cheap ones that's floating around, especially in this cyber-sale week. She doesn't have the best history of caring for her things, so I don't want to spend more than $100 on something she'll likely break sooner than I'd like to know. I recognize this means I'll end up with junk, but I'm trying to filter the junk.
My main concerns are having at least Android 2.1, and the ability to hopefully hack the genuine Market onto it, although I'll settle for the Amazon Appstore. Being able to do all the basic things without being horrific at it would also be very nice.
Does anyone have a specific model they could point to? I'm seeing some Velocity Microsos and Pandigitals on sale, along with some cheap no-names from sites like ahappydeal.com, but I'm trying to make an informed decision.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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DealExtreme.com have a lot of Android items. Just be sure to read the reviews. They may be extremely cheap but there are limitations. I use the website to buy cheap gadgets as gifts for my friends lol. But yea, if you need a simple Android tablet with a certain spec give them a try.

thiencao said:
DealExtreme.com have a lot of Android items. Just be sure to read the reviews. They may be extremely cheap but there are limitations. I use the website to buy cheap gadgets as gifts for my friends lol. But yea, if you need a simple Android tablet with a certain spec give them a try.
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Yeah, I already buy a lot of things from there, but was hoping I might find someone who has more direct experience with a specific model.

I'd run up to Walmart, Staples, Office Max, or Radio Shack and see what they have in regards to e-readers. Velocity Cruz Micro is one I believe is sub $100 one at my local Radio Shack. Find one that you like for the price and then see if your able to load the market, or better yet a custom rom.
When your looking in the less than $100 catagory, that's probably your best bet. They're at least made with some care for the consumer in mind, where as an elcheepo china model isn't.
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RadiantSkies said:
I'd run up to Walmart, Staples, OfficeM
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I've not seen anything there in a price point below the Nook Color you're writing from. Certainly no sub-$100 Android tablets. Or has their inventory changed recently?

Well Fry's, BestBuy or Office Max will probably be your best bet to get the feel. Read some reviews on NewEgg or something xD
Oh my bad sub $100. No go with retail stores. Definitely Ebay or DealExtreme. Hard to imagine local stores selling anything cheaper than that.

thiencao said:
Well Fry's, BestBuy or Office Max will probably be your best bet to get the feel. Read some reviews on NewEgg or something xD
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Fry's is a vague possibility, yes. The other two don't carry tablets that low-end, though. Not by a long shot.

TurboFool said:
I've not seen anything there in a price point below the Nook Color you're writing from. Certainly no sub-$100 Android tablets. Or has their inventory changed recently?
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Sorry, I sent that prematurely. I edited it to what it should have said. Stupid submit button -_-
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Sorry, I sent that prematurely. I edited it to what it should have said. Stupid submit button -_-
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Ah, thanks for the clarification!
Yes, I was looking at the Velocity Cruz units that were on sale on 1SaleADay today, but as I dug into reviews I wasn't liking what I saw. Some really odd limitations and compatibility issues that concerned me. Left me thinking they'd be no less of a frustration than the Chinese ones from the descriptions. Might not be accurate, but that's why I was hoping for people with some real-world experience who did some of the hacking themselves.

Well, I can't help you there, but I can tell you with these cheep units that your experience will almost be gauranteed to be a crapshoot. It might work for me, it might work for you, it might not. I'll dig around the net and see what I can find for you though. I'll report back in the morning, I gotta get some rest for the night.
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Really appreciate the assistance. I've done some research of my own, too. I'd love to get her something really good, but I just know for a fact that if I do I'll get a call a week after Christmas that she left it out in the snow, or her dog chewed it up, or something. But I also don't want to get something that will frustrate her enough to CAUSE that.

Wasn't there a £30 7" tablet floating around eBay with a capacitive touch screen running 2.1 Eclair? I'm sure somebody mentioned it on these forums a while back and a few members bought one for family members, might be worth a look there.
Good luck finding one.

Well, most of what I'm finding is Chinese ones that break the hundred dollar mark after shipping and what not. The ones that stay below that either turn to vaporware or are ungodly aweful.
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Ah I see, sorry I can't help you any more, I'm not really into tablets and stuff so whatever knowledge I have of the tablet market is very limited. Goodluck finding one, might be worth a look in a few second-hand shops and get a decent used one? My local CEX and Cash Generators etc sell HTC Flyers, Blackbery Playbook and iPads fairly cheap.

Might want to take a look at the amiga tablet ...
amiga.com/shop/?prod_id=4

Lol with 9 years me and my brother had only transistors that my dads friend brouht from war.an im 14 now,and i worked my way to the xperia x8.dont just buy it for her,let her earn it so she could appreciate stuff.
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RadiantSkies said:
Well, most of what I'm finding is Chinese ones that break the hundred dollar mark after shipping and what not. The ones that stay below that either turn to vaporware or are ungodly aweful.
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While I agree, which was my concern, if I go above that point it's both prohibitively expensive and a really stupid move on my part. I know her well enough to be shocked if this thing survives more than six months. If it does, then I can consider putting real money toward a good one for her. But this is basically a test run both of her responsibility and of how into it she really is.
CurtisAndroid5 said:
Ah I see, sorry I can't help you any more, I'm not really into tablets and stuff so whatever knowledge I have of the tablet market is very limited. Goodluck finding one, might be worth a look in a few second-hand shops and get a decent used one? My local CEX and Cash Generators etc sell HTC Flyers, Blackbery Playbook and iPads fairly cheap.
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Yeah, not terrible ideas, but still unlikely to be in the price range I want even then.
curreyr said:
Might want to take a look at the amiga tablet ...
amiga.com/shop/?prod_id=4
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Okay, now THAT's intriguing. I feel like there's got to be a serious catch, but it's intriguing. Might still be a shade too much to spend on her, but it's a starting point. Thank you.
DeHuMaNiZeD said:
Lol with 9 years me and my brother had only transistors that my dads friend brouht from war.an im 14 now,and i worked my way to the xperia x8.dont just buy it for her,let her earn it so she could appreciate stuff.
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You do understand the concept of a Christmas gift, yes?

Be very careful with cheap tablets. They are all extremely weak. Ugly performance, ugly screen. Your kid will hate android having this as first toy.
It is for kid. Buy used older device but good mark

TurboFool said:
You do understand the concept of a Christmas gift, yes?
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Yes.but a tablet for chrismas?ok i guess.if you are american.
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So I went to a few stores today that sells att phones. I asked everyone in all 5 of the stores about the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note LTE, noone even knew about it as if it will be coming out 6 years from now -.- noone knew there was one even coming out let alone the name :/ it kind of makes me sad when the consumer knows more then the sales reps. They should train more in my opinion this was just my little experiance for the day just thought I'd share. Anyone else looking forward to the note lte for att?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps are always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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KayxGee1 said:
In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps at always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics

Bush715 said:
Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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KayxGee1 said:
That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.

Bush715 said:
If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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KayxGee1 said:
I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha

Bush715 said:
Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Haha yea I understand. I never ask about a device until it's all over the internet and comfirmed by many sources. That's like calling HTC and asking about the rumored Edge.
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I even tried bestbuy lol and the guys words were "our phone tech isn't here today he will be here tomorrow from 12-6" I live 40 mins away from anything so its not in my best choice to go back but anywho I go to the same att retailer when I buy my phones. They know me there and come at me quick because I don't just come in to buy a cheap pantech crossover I'm there with cash in hand and buy phones straight up xD so they are always willing to help. When I went in to buy my Sony xperia play 4g I handed her my iPhone to Bluetooth my contacts, she looked at my iPhone and her exact words were "what the F is this" it was running wp7 xD Haha but in all seriousness I think someone should be hired in the certain area. It'd be like hiring me to sell cars or ovens when I know nothing about them, I feel like they just hire anyone :/ I went to buy a computer once and the worker argued for 30 minutes that 512mb was a gigabyte :/ I shook my head and took my business elsewhere I just don't understand... sometimes I wish everyone cared about a phone as much as we do... instead of "as long as I can listen to music watch YouTube and look at porn, I don't care what it looks like or what it does" :'( I honestly just want to teach everyone for free so I don't feel so smart and dumb at the same time. anyone else feel that way?
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phzi said:
Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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I agree. I've perused tablets in Best Buy and after engaging the nearest 'team member' for less than 3 minutes, I realize that I know more than they do.
It's the same experience when going to the auto parts store. There are some people who can carry on informed conversation, but 90% are the type who watch fast & furious movies in awe, and know nothing about repair or maintenance or they can only look up part numbers.
Basically, lower your expectations.

This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.

I Am Marino said:
This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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I have had similar experience with applying for jobs at auto parts stores. The 'now hiring' sign is displayed for several months and the staff changes about every 3 weeks, but I never get called. For a while there was an older woman who not only knew nothing about cars but she also needed help to use the computer program to look up parts.
I finally realized that these people will work for less money than I will because I actually know what I am doing. It really is sad that people with any level of technical or mechanical ability don't actually work at the retail level because they can't get enough money.
And don't get me started on the people who work at Home Depot . .

I have no past work experiance. I'm 19 years old have been the "bad" kid because I used to be a "black magic" hacker I've gotten introuble from schools best buys and targets because of it but now I'm past all that I do phones tablets anything mobile. There is never a time when I'm in best buy that I'm back in the computer/phone area and usually an older citizen is talking to a sales Rep about which one is better and the sales Rep says well product A is $1299 with 4gb ram touchscreen is way better then product B $899 8gb ram and so on but they go by the price as the sales Rep was walking her to the register I kindly walked up and said "hello ma'am I noticed you were interested in two different so-so" the sales Rep called the manager and had me kicked out for costing him the sale xD but they wont hire me? I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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i have to say i agree not many of the people in the stores even know about the phones they have in front of them much less whats coming out.

toxicpaulution said:
... I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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I don't mean to overstep the rules of polite conversation but you may wish to think about your image. It isn't fair that we judge based on looks, but it happens.
*Edit - When I say looks I also means assumptions that people will make of others based on their prejudices. -*End Edit
Most recently, I applied for a job repairing projectors. During the interview they kept asking me about how well I would transition to an office environment. Completely Ridiculous! I would be working in the workshop not the office and I happened to be better dressed than any of my interviewers.
Basically, some people cannot see past their little world or people they can understand.

Man Verizon store by me they don't know anything. And they are jerks as well. Went to upgrade my moms phone and said she wouldn't get unlimited data with her Droid 3 so I just bought it from newegg called up and boom she got her unlimited data. Never going back to that store again. Hate how now you have to bring phone to store to get replaced.
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toxicpaulution said:
They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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Frig no, we need no more non technical people. Like how not everyone is cut out for engineering or medicine, not everyone is cut out for xda.
$1 gets you a reply

I'm not saying everyone join xda but if you going to sell something atleast know alittle about the past present and the future you can't be like well I'm sorry I don't know about cars from 2011 back I only know about the 2012 Ford focus and that's all sorry can't work on you're car -.-
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[Q] Chinese Fake Phones

Does anybody know a good Chinese site with Fast and good Androids with Google Play?
I know a few but I'm scared to buy so if you could share any Good ones that are not Scammers then go ahead.
I've seen these few: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/712877 (Says that the site is protected from Scammers)
tinydeal.com (I've heard it before on the internet and they said it's good but you never know)
fastcardtech.com (It has good reviews and heard good things about it, but I still don't thrust them)
This is the only site I can thrust with this so please help it's for my Birthday!

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Try ebay, at least you are protected from scams.
Sorry for my english.

Buy a quality phone, its just a few dollars more.
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Hamisxa said:
Does anybody know a good Chinese site with Fast and good Androids with Google Play?
I know a few but I'm scared to buy so if you could share any Good ones that are not Scammers then go ahead.
I've seen these few: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/712877 (Says that the site is protected from Scammers)
tinydeal.com (I've heard it before on the internet and they said it's good but you never know)
fastcardtech.com (It has good reviews and heard good things about it, but I still don't thrust them)
This is the only site I can thrust with this so please help it's for my Birthday!
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I suggest buy a $0.99 cent phone from your phone company like the Samsung Galaxy S2. That way you will still be getting a quality phone but for a very cheap price.

Why would you want a fake chinese phone? Honestly, for big purchases, it's probably better if you deal with businesses within the country you live in. What happens if you need service for your fake phone in the future? I doubt whomever you buy the fake phone from would be of much help and therefore, you'll just end up losing however much money you paid for that phone. Get a legit phone.

Lol you said thrust
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delusionsofgrandure said:
Why would you want a fake chinese phone? Honestly, for big purchases, it's probably better if you deal with businesses within the country you live in. What happens if you need service for your fake phone in the future? I doubt whomever you buy the fake phone from would be of much help and therefore, you'll just end up losing however much money you paid for that phone. Get a legit phone.
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Totally Agreed
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Should I sell my OPO?

I like the phone, but I've had a lot of issues with stock and rooted apps. CS is a joke and won't give me a direct response. I need a warranty replacement. My battery is very bad, I have issues with the screen colors and delays when turning on. I have to admit I love reading web articles, but not with two hands. I don't understand, but a lot of women like that. I don't know how they actually use it, but maybe face time is just that popular now... I'm old school, I guess, I'm only 25 though. My favorite phone was the nexus S, and close was the galaxy nexus. I'm thinking about motoG, but I need 2 gigs min. I don't game, but OS eats a lot as it is, especially while using an app. What do you think? Is there a good alternative for me. 4-4.7 inch is what I'd like to have and a nice screen with good look. A good quad core is a must. Not to mention Dev support.
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Wait, you're saying the phone is defective, but you intend on selling it? Who would buy a defective phone? Surely you need to disclose this information to potential buyers, or you're being dishonest. Problem is, if you are honest and disclose the appropriate information then nobody will buy it. How much have you actually done to troubleshoot the problems you're having?
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timmaaa said:
Wait, you're saying the phone is defective, but you intend on selling it? Who would buy a defective phone? Surely you need to disclose this information to potential buyers, or you're being dishonest. Problem is, if you are honest and disclose the appropriate information then nobody will buy it. How much have you actually done to troubleshoot the problems you're having?
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Everything. Yeah, I'm not going to eat it all, because OPO gave me a bad phone and won't remedy it. I'm going to sell it cheap and buy something cheap, like a motoG. That's why I was asking...
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nikeman513 said:
Everything. Yeah, I'm not going to eat it all, because OPO gave me a bad phone and won't remedy it. I'm going to sell it cheap and buy something cheap, like a motoG. That's why I was asking...
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if i were you i would persuade the company to give me a new phone, you can't get a better phone than OPO

primo14z said:
if i were you i would persuade the company to give me a new phone, you can't get a better phone than OPO
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How, I've been trying to get them to talk to me and they keep asking for pictures... Im like seriously? My phone is my camera. They are such a holes
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nikeman513 said:
How, I've been trying to get them to talk to me and they keep asking for pictures... Im like seriously? My phone is my camera. They are such a holes
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not really they just want proofs
like for battery you can post your battery stat's, and you can ask someone to take photos of your phone, to show them your screen issues

nikeman513 said:
How, I've been trying to get them to talk to me and they keep asking for pictures... Im like seriously? My phone is my camera. They are such a holes
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It's pretty standard practice that they want proof of what you're claiming is wrong with the device. In this day and age it's fair for them to assume that you know at least one person who owns a camera or camera-phone. Are they just meant to take your word for it? That isn't how business works.
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