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Downgrade 5.0 to 4.4.4 and KEEP DATA

So I updated to 5.0 lollipop via ADB flash a couple days ago, and I realized that without xposed + root, I really cannot stand this phone... I need the simplicity that xposed gives me to make using my phone much easier.
So now, I want to downgrade back to 4.4.4 KitKat. Has anyone here tried? What I tried was downloading the 4.4.4 factory images, extracted it, and edited the flash-all.bat file and removed the "-w" command to save my data. It flashes fine, but then the phone is stuck in the boot animation and doesnt get past that.
Has anyone here successfully DOWNGRADED and KEPT THEIR DATA intact? Would appreciate it a lot!

blackdragon12 said:
So I updated to 5.0 lollipop via ADB flash a couple days ago, and I realized that without xposed + root, I really cannot stand this phone... I need the simplicity that xposed gives me to make using my phone much easier.
So now, I want to downgrade back to 4.4.4 KitKat. Has anyone here tried? What I tried was downloading the 4.4.4 factory images, extracted it, and edited the flash-all.bat file and removed the "-w" command to save my data. It flashes fine, but then the phone is stuck in the boot animation and doesnt get past that.
Has anyone here successfully DOWNGRADED and KEPT THEIR DATA intact? Would appreciate it a lot!
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I personally haven't tried that. But 5.0 does have roottt and hopefully eventually xposed

blackdragon12 said:
So I updated to 5.0 lollipop via ADB flash a couple days ago, and I realized that without xposed + root, I really cannot stand this phone... I need the simplicity that xposed gives me to make using my phone much easier.
So now, I want to downgrade back to 4.4.4 KitKat. Has anyone here tried? What I tried was downloading the 4.4.4 factory images, extracted it, and edited the flash-all.bat file and removed the "-w" command to save my data. It flashes fine, but then the phone is stuck in the boot animation and doesnt get past that.
Has anyone here successfully DOWNGRADED and KEPT THEIR DATA intact? Would appreciate it a lot!
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You would need to wipe cache and Dalvik for sure. System apps may need data wipes, too. Play by ear.

cgibbons51 said:
I personally haven't tried that. But 5.0 does have roottt and hopefully eventually xposed
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yes. I did root it and it worked well. However, one of my company apps that I have to use on my phone detects my phone is rooted and won't open.... Xposed had a module (root cloak) to hide the fact that I had root for that app so it worked
Aerowinder said:
You would need to wipe cache and Dalvik for sure. System apps may need data wipes, too. Play by ear.
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Are there any side effects to wiping cache and Dalvik? If I get stuck on a bootloop again would I have issue flashing 5.0 back if I wipe that?
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Just flash factory images. You'll be in for some hair pulling if you try to boot your saved data. Why do people try to do these crazy moves..

beekay201 said:
Just flash factory images. You'll be in for some hair pulling if you try to boot your saved data. Why do people try to do these crazy moves..
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That isn't a solution to my problem. I know I can just wipe everything and flash the images again, but the point here is I want to save my data and apps and not have to setup my phone again (thus the topic title, I want to keep my data)
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Did you take a nandroid before flashing? You can use TiBU to extract the apps and data from that.

krs360 said:
Did you take a nandroid before flashing? You can use TiBU to extract the apps and data from that.
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Biggest mistake, no I didnt
Worst case I am stuck with 5.0 lollipop until there is a version of Xposed for ART... or if I can figure out how to use the company app on a rooted device.

I sincerely doubt your phone settings for 5.0 will be compatible with 4.4.x
You will have to wipe. If you're rooted, you can at least restore user apps and data but the android settings, you'll have to do yourself.

blackdragon12 said:
Biggest mistake, no I didnt
Worst case I am stuck with 5.0 lollipop until there is a version of Xposed for ART... or if I can figure out how to use the company app on a rooted device.
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Seeing as you can't use Xposed, what do you need root for?

rootSU said:
I sincerely doubt your phone settings for 5.0 will be compatible with 4.4.x
You will have to wipe. If you're rooted, you can at least restore user apps and data but the android settings, you'll have to do yourself.
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I can easily root the device again. What do you mean if I am rooted in can restore user apps and data? How would I back those up and restore? Are you referring to using something like titanium backup?
Thanks.
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blackdragon12 said:
I can easily root the device again. What do you mean if I am rooted in can restore user apps and data? How would I back those up and restore? Are you referring to using something like titanium backup?
Thanks.
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Yes. Not "like". Exactly that.

You can use Helium as well (which doesn't require root)

rootSU said:
Yes. Not "like". Exactly that.
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Okay. Will look into it.
EddyOS said:
You can use Helium as well (which doesn't require root)
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Thanks. Rooting isn't an issue so I don't mind titanium since it's more comprehensive I think.
I still want to see if there's an easier way to flash back...
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blackdragon12 said:
Okay. Will look into it.
Thanks. Rooting isn't an issue so I don't mind titanium since it's more comprehensive I think.
I still want to see if there's an easier way to flash back...
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There's not. Wipe, flash factory images, restore apps + user data. That's your only option.

_MetalHead_ said:
There's not. Wipe, flash factory images, restore apps + user data. That's your only option.
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Ah... guess ill do it at some point this week then..

_MetalHead_ said:
There's not. Wipe, flash factory images, restore apps + user data. That's your only option.
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Just wanted to update everyone.
I used titanium backup to save all my apps+appdata and then flashed 4.4.4 via ADB. Then flashed TWRP and used CF-Auto-Root to root my phone.
Everything is right in my world of android again. 4.4.4, rooted, and no restrictions. Thanks all!

blackdragon12 said:
Just wanted to update everyone.
I used titanium backup to save all my apps+appdata and then flashed 4.4.4 via ADB. Then flashed TWRP and used CF-Auto-Root to root my phone.
Everything is right in my world of android again. 4.4.4, rooted, and no restrictions. Thanks all!
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Any fix for the pesky OTA System Update notification?
I'm dying for 4.4.4 but cant stand that annoying update notification.
And I can't get rid of it without wakelocks.

Funny enough I haven't gotten the notification for Ota update yet... Maybe because I used cf auto root to root the phone and it modifies the kernel I think.
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justiiin said:
Any fix for the pesky OTA System Update notification?
I'm dying for 4.4.4 but cant stand that annoying update notification.
And I can't get rid of it without wakelocks.
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I too am staying with kitkat. I disabled notification in "Google Play Services". Where do I go to see if I'm getting wakelocks?

Android 5.0 Lollipop still not available!

Hi guys.
I used to get a notification which was bugging me to update to 5.0.
I blocked that ongoing notification through Gravity Box (Xposed)
I don't know what has happened, but now when I go to system updates, I see "your system is up to date".
I could have downloaded the update last month but did not because of some root issues. Now when I want to upgrade, I can't.
Any idea on how to get the OTA update? (I can flash the zip, but don't want to)
Thanks!
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You'll have to wait for it to come round again.

Wait for the notification? But why? It was available a few days ago... Vanished after I installed the Closed framework.
I also installed eggster for different easter eggs. Can that be a problem?
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The notification goes after a while if you don't accept it. You go to the back of the queue. Sounds like you've made enough modifications for the ota not to work anyway

Okay, this might sound stupid but... Making a lot of modifications disables the OTA or something?
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dioxide95 said:
Okay, this might sound stupid but... Making a lot of modifications disables the OTA or something?
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OTA requires no modified files to apply. You'll still get the notification (when its your turn again) but the install will fail

I believe he means, too many modifications that differs from the OTA zip.
Restore the factory image, or side-load it.
I don't k ow if this method still works, but:
Google Services Framework, Force Stop, Clear App Data, then go check System Update.

Service cannot be stopped. Rebooted quite a few times now.
Looks like I'll have to install the factory image directly.

dioxide95 said:
Hi guys.
I used to get a notification which was bugging me to update to 5.0.
I blocked that ongoing notification through Gravity Box (Xposed)
I don't know what has happened, but now when I go to system updates, I see "your system is up to date".
I could have downloaded the update last month but did not because of some root issues. Now when I want to upgrade, I can't.
Any idea on how to get the OTA update? (I can flash the zip, but don't want to)
Thanks!
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Flash the 5.0 image manualy in fastboot or better yet wait a bit more for the 5.0.1 image to be posted by Google.

The funny thing is, I got a notification to update even after rooting, patching apps etc.
It is only after I installed Xposed that the OTA vanished.
Some people say that even the presence of SU app can fail the update. Is it true?

dioxide95 said:
The funny thing is, I got a notification to update even after rooting, patching apps etc.
It is only after I installed Xposed that the OTA vanished.
Some people say that even the presence of SU app can fail the update. Is it true?
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Look in the general thread OTA thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/ref-nexus-5-stock-ota-urls-t2475327, the OTA is still available there. First reflash the latest 4.4.4 Nexus 5 image and after that sideload flash the OTA in recovery. Backup your files first before flashing 4.4.4 again.

I will flash the 5.0.1 directly now. Thanks all.

dioxide95 said:
I will flash the 5.0.1 directly now. Thanks all.
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No no, its the 5.0 OTA. The 5.0.1 isn`t out yet for the N5

dioxide95 said:
The funny thing is, I got a notification to update even after rooting, patching apps etc.
It is only after I installed Xposed that the OTA vanished.
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There is no link between modifications and the notification. The notification would have disappeared even if you were stock unrooted. The fact it disappeared after installing xposed is pureb coincidence

Oh okay. Thanks!

[Q] VoLTE OTA update from AT&T - do I need to un-root to be able to install this?

My G3 has 5.0.1 and I have rooted it. Nothing more.
I got notification of the latest update, which had VoLTE, something about Uber (which is already in my bloatware) and something else.
I have only rooted this phone, however while I was searching around on xda to see if anyone else has gone through this update with root, I found a 1-line fix to disable authentication on WiFi tether. I did that, and then some time later I got a pop-up saying my phone is suspected of being rooted, so the update would be disabled. I then reversed the WiFi tether change, and checked for update and it _seems_ like it is ready to do the update.
But, has anyone out there gone through this update while rooted? Did that work and you only had to root again?
Or do I have to un-root?

pourhaus said:
My G3 has 5.0.1 and I have rooted it. Nothing more.
I got notification of the latest update, which had VoLTE, something about Uber (which is already in my bloatware) and something else.
I have only rooted this phone, however while I was searching around on xda to see if anyone else has gone through this update with root, I found a 1-line fix to disable authentication on WiFi tether. I did that, and then some time later I got a pop-up saying my phone is suspected of being rooted, so the update would be disabled. I then reversed the WiFi tether change, and checked for update and it _seems_ like it is ready to do the update.
But, has anyone out there gone through this update while rooted? Did that work and you only had to root again?
Or do I have to un-root?
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I'm in the exact same boat as you. Can't finish the update due to being rooted before. Even if you factory reset it will still say you're suspected of rooting.
Here is my thread just in case you want to give it a glance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/development/to-pick-ota-trapped-root-t3106573
Here is the link to unroot back to 10D
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/general/unroot-return-to-factory-stock-att-lg-g3-t2820827
I haven't exactly solved this issue yet but I'm working on it >.<
Btw don't use that unroot link just yet. I need to confirm and read around before finding out if it's a viable method for our situation yet.

pourhaus said:
My G3 has 5.0.1 and I have rooted it. Nothing more.
I got notification of the latest update, which had VoLTE, something about Uber (which is already in my bloatware) and something else.
I have only rooted this phone, however while I was searching around on xda to see if anyone else has gone through this update with root, I found a 1-line fix to disable authentication on WiFi tether. I did that, and then some time later I got a pop-up saying my phone is suspected of being rooted, so the update would be disabled. I then reversed the WiFi tether change, and checked for update and it _seems_ like it is ready to do the update.
But, has anyone out there gone through this update while rooted? Did that work and you only had to root again?
Or do I have to un-root?
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I had to un-root, update, then root again using one click.

rrktt said:
I had to un-root, update, then root again using one click.
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To be specific about "un-root".
You don't mean that you simply unrooted via SuperSU, do you? I assume you actually restored back to stock KitKat 10d, correct? And then took the OTA update straight to 21l, correct?
(And where can you tell the phone to check for updates again? or did you just wait for it to pop up in the notification area?)
Thanks

ultrasuper said:
To be specific about "un-root".
You don't mean that you simply unrooted via SuperSU, do you? I assume you actually restored back to stock KitKat 10d, correct? And then took the OTA update straight to 21l, correct?
(And where can you tell the phone to check for updates again? or did you just wait for it to pop up in the notification area?)
Thanks
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I unrooted back to stock kitkat 10d and took the OTA update to 21l.
To check for the OTA update, go to General --> About Phone --> Software Update --> Update now
I did try to update when rooted before restoring back to stock. It failed during installation with a message about suspicion of rooting.

rrktt said:
I unrooted back to stock kitkat 10d and took the OTA update to 21l.
To check for the OTA update, go to General --> About Phone --> Software Update --> Update now
I did try to update when rooted before restoring back to stock. It failed during installation with a message about suspicion of rooting.
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Yup I just had to go through all this as well. Luckily it all went smoothly and my phone is back up to spec and loaded the way I use it daily. Took about 12 hours of deliberate effort though haha. I guess I never really knew how much stuff I had on the phone and how much time goes into editing settings and logging into everything. Anyways UltraSuper you're right. Had to use the link I posted above using LG Flash Tool and go back to kit kat then you can upgrade easily to 21l, LG one click root, use AutoRec to flash TWRP then do your first backup just in case something goes south but it's doubtful. My phone is stable as it was out of the box.

So what does this update offer? Is it worth the hassle of redoing everything?
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Did you do a twrp restore after the update? did Xposed work in the new update?
I may do this tonight
Thanks.

joeclark said:
So what does this update offer? Is it worth the hassle of redoing everything?
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To be honest I went through the whole process and I'll probably never use volte. I did it more just to have a clean start. I've been flashing like crazy and things were starting to get buggy. If things are running smooth for you I don't see the value in it unless you're planning on using volte.
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joeclark said:
So what does this update offer? Is it worth the hassle of redoing everything?
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VoLTE. That is the only notable thing about the update. A couple of pieces of bloat are in there as well. VoLTE is still new and not available everywhere yet and is only able to be used by a select few models of phones. Read up on it and decide. I personally do not see the need for the hassle atm so will wait until another day.

Stock ROM: Root & OTA Updates

My new MOTO G 2015 XT1540 16GB/2GB will be delivered early next week. I have been trying to do all my reading in advance. Ideally I would like to keep the stock ROM, root the device, and keep receiving OTA updates.
My understanding to date is it is possible root without installing (flashing) TWRP. And by fast booting TWRP (vice installing) I can root the phone, keep the stock boot loader, and receive OTA updates as long as I completely unroot the device prior to updating. What is not clear to me is if I can keep receive OTA updates and not break the phone under the following circumstances:
1) custom kernel installed
2) adding apps to the system such as Cerberus (I know it can be elsewhere)
3) adding apps that require root such as Adfree (modifying host file)
4) freezing or removing system apps (bloatware)
Any suggestions how to proceed would be greatly appreciated.

Freezing/adding apps doesn't affect ota's,

HelpMeruth said:
Freezing/adding apps doesn't affect ota's,
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Uhh, yes it does, at least sometimes. My last OTA failed until a bug report to Motorola traced it to system apps I had frozen. I don't think it matters now, at least with Titanium and Marshmallow. Many of the system apps I uninstall or freeze come un-frozen after a reboot. All that I uninstall become installed again after a reboot. I don't know if that's a Titanium Backup problem with Marshmallow or what.

Tel864 said:
My last OTA failed until a bug report to Motorola traced it to system apps I had frozen.
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So your update simply failed with no ill effect on the phone?
Were you using the stock kernel?

MrTooPhone said:
So your update simply failed with no ill effect on the phone?
Were you using the stock kernel?
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No lasting ill effect. Yes, everything stock. I had previously un-rooted which won't stop the OTA download, just the install. When the install still failed, I had forgotten that I'd frozen some Google apps, Gmail, Play Movies & TV, and Google Play Music. When the OTA kept failing to install, Motorola had me send a bug report. After I unfroze the above apps, the update seemed to go through fine. This had not happened on earlier versions of Android, so I'm thinking something changed or maybe it was just a bug in my software, who knows. You don't get a lot of feedback from Motorola. I think you have a better chance of winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning.

Oneplus One OTA System Updates not working. Shows no update.

Hi Guys,
I had recently updated my Oneplus One to 5.0.2 through OTA system updates. Now I wanted to update the same to 5.1.1 (i.e OS 12.1). But the problem is that I am not able to see the system updates anymore. It says the System is up to date whereas it's not the case in reality. It also asks to update cyanogen recovery, which I ignore. Attaching the snapshots of device for your reference.
The device is NOT rooted. I tried switch OFF and Switch ON multiple times. I also manually force stopped the System Update app, cleared it's cache, disabled it then enabled it. tried all combinations for the same. But no luck.
Can someone please advice what should I do to see the system updates as usual the way I was seeing earlier? Thanks for your help.
Its seems images are not visible. I have raised the same question on OPO forums. Here is the link to see the images: https:// forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-ota-system-updates-not-working-shows-no-update.500862/

Well As you Know CyanogenMod Died so that's why you can't find any updates
So I suggest you to follow this link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/official-cm11s-roms-ota-updates-t2906746

الفلسطيني said:
Well As you Know CyanogenMod Died so that's why you can't find any updates
So I suggest you to follow this link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/official-cm11s-roms-ota-updates-t2906746
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Thanks a lot for this information. In that thread, its mentioned that "there are two different versions of some OTA updates." In such a case can I go ahead and install any of the zip file? I will be downloading the incremental updates which are similar to System updates. Please let me know.

TheOfficialJoker said:
Hi Guys,
I had recently updated my Oneplus One to 5.0.2 through OTA system updates. Now I wanted to update the same to 5.1.1 (i.e OS 12.1). But the problem is that I am not able to see the system updates anymore. It says the System is up to date whereas it's not the case in reality. It also asks to update cyanogen recovery, which I ignore. Attaching the snapshots of device for your reference.
The device is NOT rooted. I tried switch OFF and Switch ON multiple times. I also manually force stopped the System Update app, cleared it's cache, disabled it then enabled it. tried all combinations for the same. But no luck.
Can someone please advice what should I do to see the system updates as usual the way I was seeing earlier? Thanks for your help.
Its seems images are not visible. I have raised the same question on OPO forums. Here is the link to see the images: https:// forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-one-ota-system-updates-not-working-shows-no-update.500862/
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Hi man,
easier way
search google play for the app (Cyanogen Update Tracker) , then open it and follow the instructions .
it's good and works for my bacon .

MedoStartSmart said:
Hi man,
easier way
search google play for the app (Cyanogen Update Tracker) , then open it and follow the instructions .
it's good and works for my bacon .
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Thanks a lot for your reply. I actually have that app and it shows me the new update for 5.1.1 too. But the issue is when I first tried to update thru this app from kitkat to 05Q update, it somehow messed up my device. The zip installed was somehow corrupt due to which the installation had issues. Thats why I am actually worried to take that risk again.
That screwed up installation thru that app was the reason why I switched to OTA system updates which updated from 05Q to 5.0.2 lollypop. And now I cant see cyanogen system updates as it seem to have died.
Are you sure that app has no issues at all? Have you updated till 5.1.1 or 6.0.1 using that app? Please let me know.

TheOfficialJoker said:
Thanks a lot for your reply. I actually have that app and it shows me the new update for 5.1.1 too. But the issue is when I first tried to update thru this app from kitkat to 05Q update, it somehow messed up my device. The zip installed was somehow corrupt due to which the installation had issues. Thats why I am actually worried to take that risk again.
That screwed up installation thru that app was the reason why I switched to OTA system updates which updated from 05Q to 5.0.2 lollypop. And now I cant see cyanogen system updates as it seem to have died.
Are you sure that app has no issues at all? Have you updated till 5.1.1 or 6.0.1 using that app? Please let me know.
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Why not just get the cos13.1.2 signed zip, flash it and factory reset. I have the file and i can upload it in a couple minute to my gdrive.

TheOfficialJoker said:
Thanks a lot for your reply. I actually have that app and it shows me the new update for 5.1.1 too. But the issue is when I first tried to update thru this app from kitkat to 05Q update, it somehow messed up my device. The zip installed was somehow corrupt due to which the installation had issues. Thats why I am actually worried to take that risk again.
That screwed up installation thru that app was the reason why I switched to OTA system updates which updated from 05Q to 5.0.2 lollypop. And now I cant see cyanogen system updates as it seem to have died.
Are you sure that app has no issues at all? Have you updated till 5.1.1 or 6.0.1 using that app? Please let me know.
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i used it to update from kitkat to the latest marshmallow version available throw the full update method, and it worked like a charm.

C4SCA said:
Why not just get the cos13.1.2 signed zip, flash it and factory reset. I have the file and i can upload it in a couple minute to my gdrive.
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Thanks a lot for your help man. But flashing and factory reset will wipe the mobile data I guess. I don't really want to do that. I need to keep the mobile data intact. Also, will it be advisable to jump from 5.0.2 to 6.0 directly? Or should I go incrementally only?

MedoStartSmart said:
i used it to update from kitkat to the latest marshmallow version available throw the full update method, and it worked like a charm.
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I can also see the full update option. But if I do full update directly, will it wipe all data from my device? I am not sure about it. Can you confirm whether your data was wiped when you updated from Kitkat to the latest marshmallow thru this App? That would help me decide. Or if anyone else can confirm the same, that would also help.

TheOfficialJoker said:
I can also see the full update option. But if I do full update directly, will it wipe all data from my device? I am not sure about it. Can you confirm whether your data was wiped when you updated from Kitkat to the latest marshmallow thru this App? That would help me decide. Or if anyone else can confirm the same, that would also help.
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no, it didn't wipe any of my data or apps
sorry for late reply.

MedoStartSmart said:
no, it didn't wipe any of my data or apps
sorry for late reply.
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Thanks man. I will try the full update then.