So I updated to 5.0 lollipop via ADB flash a couple days ago, and I realized that without xposed + root, I really cannot stand this phone... I need the simplicity that xposed gives me to make using my phone much easier.
So now, I want to downgrade back to 4.4.4 KitKat. Has anyone here tried? What I tried was downloading the 4.4.4 factory images, extracted it, and edited the flash-all.bat file and removed the "-w" command to save my data. It flashes fine, but then the phone is stuck in the boot animation and doesnt get past that.
Has anyone here successfully DOWNGRADED and KEPT THEIR DATA intact? Would appreciate it a lot!
blackdragon12 said:
So I updated to 5.0 lollipop via ADB flash a couple days ago, and I realized that without xposed + root, I really cannot stand this phone... I need the simplicity that xposed gives me to make using my phone much easier.
So now, I want to downgrade back to 4.4.4 KitKat. Has anyone here tried? What I tried was downloading the 4.4.4 factory images, extracted it, and edited the flash-all.bat file and removed the "-w" command to save my data. It flashes fine, but then the phone is stuck in the boot animation and doesnt get past that.
Has anyone here successfully DOWNGRADED and KEPT THEIR DATA intact? Would appreciate it a lot!
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I personally haven't tried that. But 5.0 does have roottt and hopefully eventually xposed
blackdragon12 said:
So I updated to 5.0 lollipop via ADB flash a couple days ago, and I realized that without xposed + root, I really cannot stand this phone... I need the simplicity that xposed gives me to make using my phone much easier.
So now, I want to downgrade back to 4.4.4 KitKat. Has anyone here tried? What I tried was downloading the 4.4.4 factory images, extracted it, and edited the flash-all.bat file and removed the "-w" command to save my data. It flashes fine, but then the phone is stuck in the boot animation and doesnt get past that.
Has anyone here successfully DOWNGRADED and KEPT THEIR DATA intact? Would appreciate it a lot!
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You would need to wipe cache and Dalvik for sure. System apps may need data wipes, too. Play by ear.
cgibbons51 said:
I personally haven't tried that. But 5.0 does have roottt and hopefully eventually xposed
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yes. I did root it and it worked well. However, one of my company apps that I have to use on my phone detects my phone is rooted and won't open.... Xposed had a module (root cloak) to hide the fact that I had root for that app so it worked
Aerowinder said:
You would need to wipe cache and Dalvik for sure. System apps may need data wipes, too. Play by ear.
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Are there any side effects to wiping cache and Dalvik? If I get stuck on a bootloop again would I have issue flashing 5.0 back if I wipe that?
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Just flash factory images. You'll be in for some hair pulling if you try to boot your saved data. Why do people try to do these crazy moves..
beekay201 said:
Just flash factory images. You'll be in for some hair pulling if you try to boot your saved data. Why do people try to do these crazy moves..
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That isn't a solution to my problem. I know I can just wipe everything and flash the images again, but the point here is I want to save my data and apps and not have to setup my phone again (thus the topic title, I want to keep my data)
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Did you take a nandroid before flashing? You can use TiBU to extract the apps and data from that.
krs360 said:
Did you take a nandroid before flashing? You can use TiBU to extract the apps and data from that.
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Biggest mistake, no I didnt
Worst case I am stuck with 5.0 lollipop until there is a version of Xposed for ART... or if I can figure out how to use the company app on a rooted device.
I sincerely doubt your phone settings for 5.0 will be compatible with 4.4.x
You will have to wipe. If you're rooted, you can at least restore user apps and data but the android settings, you'll have to do yourself.
blackdragon12 said:
Biggest mistake, no I didnt
Worst case I am stuck with 5.0 lollipop until there is a version of Xposed for ART... or if I can figure out how to use the company app on a rooted device.
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Seeing as you can't use Xposed, what do you need root for?
rootSU said:
I sincerely doubt your phone settings for 5.0 will be compatible with 4.4.x
You will have to wipe. If you're rooted, you can at least restore user apps and data but the android settings, you'll have to do yourself.
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I can easily root the device again. What do you mean if I am rooted in can restore user apps and data? How would I back those up and restore? Are you referring to using something like titanium backup?
Thanks.
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blackdragon12 said:
I can easily root the device again. What do you mean if I am rooted in can restore user apps and data? How would I back those up and restore? Are you referring to using something like titanium backup?
Thanks.
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Yes. Not "like". Exactly that.
You can use Helium as well (which doesn't require root)
rootSU said:
Yes. Not "like". Exactly that.
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Okay. Will look into it.
EddyOS said:
You can use Helium as well (which doesn't require root)
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Thanks. Rooting isn't an issue so I don't mind titanium since it's more comprehensive I think.
I still want to see if there's an easier way to flash back...
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blackdragon12 said:
Okay. Will look into it.
Thanks. Rooting isn't an issue so I don't mind titanium since it's more comprehensive I think.
I still want to see if there's an easier way to flash back...
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There's not. Wipe, flash factory images, restore apps + user data. That's your only option.
_MetalHead_ said:
There's not. Wipe, flash factory images, restore apps + user data. That's your only option.
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Ah... guess ill do it at some point this week then..
_MetalHead_ said:
There's not. Wipe, flash factory images, restore apps + user data. That's your only option.
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Just wanted to update everyone.
I used titanium backup to save all my apps+appdata and then flashed 4.4.4 via ADB. Then flashed TWRP and used CF-Auto-Root to root my phone.
Everything is right in my world of android again. 4.4.4, rooted, and no restrictions. Thanks all!
blackdragon12 said:
Just wanted to update everyone.
I used titanium backup to save all my apps+appdata and then flashed 4.4.4 via ADB. Then flashed TWRP and used CF-Auto-Root to root my phone.
Everything is right in my world of android again. 4.4.4, rooted, and no restrictions. Thanks all!
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Any fix for the pesky OTA System Update notification?
I'm dying for 4.4.4 but cant stand that annoying update notification.
And I can't get rid of it without wakelocks.
Funny enough I haven't gotten the notification for Ota update yet... Maybe because I used cf auto root to root the phone and it modifies the kernel I think.
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justiiin said:
Any fix for the pesky OTA System Update notification?
I'm dying for 4.4.4 but cant stand that annoying update notification.
And I can't get rid of it without wakelocks.
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I too am staying with kitkat. I disabled notification in "Google Play Services". Where do I go to see if I'm getting wakelocks?
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Guys i need some help. My dad accidentally said to upgrade the firmware and its started downloading for 4.4 which i dont want.
Is there any way to stop the download or delete the downloaded firmware before it actually installs...?
I have already tried the following to no avail
-Clear Cache Partition from Recovery.
-Clear Google Services Framework Cache
-Clear Google Services Framework Data
-Force stop Google Services Framework.
Please let me know asap. The phone is NOT rooted, otherwise i know i could delete the cache folder, but to root it would mean wiping the phone for unlocking bootloader, so kinda defeats the purpose.
Thanks
Just don't update? Also I think it stores out in the tmp folder. But not 100% sure on that.
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Vuciz said:
Just don't update? Also I think it stores out in the tmp folder. But not 100% sure on that.
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Its already started the download...
And from what iv read everywhere is that it will ask you to install the update once its downloaded, but after a few times you choose No, it will automatically install it anyway.
As for the temp folder, is that accessible without root?
From what I read it was stored in a cache folder once the download is complete.
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Anyone else...??
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DrunkFuX666 said:
Anyone else...??
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You need root to delete it from cache folder
harishmenace said:
You need root to delete it from cache folder
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When you clear cache, from the recovery menu, what cache does that clear then...? If you know...
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What would a factory reset do?
DrunkFuX666 said:
Anyone else...??
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What would a factory reset do?
deej_roamer said:
What would a factory reset do?
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It would do yes, but I don't want to have to reinstall everything from scratch etc... I'm just looking for a way to stop the update midway...
But ultimately if I can't find out any other way, its gonna have to be a factory reset...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
It would do yes, but I don't want to have to reinstall everything from scratch etc... I'm just looking for a way to stop the update midway...
But ultimately if I can't find out any other way, its gonna have to be a factory reset...
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And what if you disable the OTA service under Settings -> Apps -> All?
To do that, you don't need root.
I'm not sure this is working, because I don't use the stock rom right now...but it worth a try.
mrbigg25 said:
And what if you disable the OTA service under Settings -> Apps -> All?
To do that, you don't need root.
I'm not sure this is working, because I don't use the stock rom right now...but it worth a try.
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Are you talking about the Motorola OTA app...? Tried to force stop that, and clear cache and data, but that didn't stop the update...
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Hi, have seen some posts for this issue but none really help me understand what went wrong (tried this update 3 times with same result)
I have nexus 5 with android 4.4.2, rooted with CF-Auto root.
Recently i received OTA update notification to 4.4.3, but when i'm trying to install it i get error without any info.
Before trying to update i completely uninstall xposed and all of its modules.
To my understanding using CF-Autoroot should not interfere with OTA updates.
Any ideas?
oshera said:
Hi, have seen some posts for this issue but none really help me understand what went wrong (tried this update 3 times with same result)
I have nexus 5 with android 4.4.2, rooted with CF-Auto root.
Recently i received OTA update notification to 4.4.3, but when i'm trying to install it i get error without any info.
Before trying to update i completely uninstall xposed and all of its modules.
To my understanding using CF-Autoroot should not interfere with OTA updates.
Any ideas?
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did you do any other system modifications? change kernels?
I'd just dirty flash 4.4.3 and call it a day.
Zepius said:
did you do any other system modifications? change kernels?
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Nop, unless apps like titanium backup or file manager (only other apps that require root) change something. :/
Lokke9191 said:
I'd just dirty flash 4.4.3 and call it a day.
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Im no android expert(far from it), and prefer to stick to the most simple methods as long as i can run xposed framework.
this is why OTA without flashing or interfering with OS is best for me.
Keep this as last resort if no progress will happen regarding OTA updates.
Thanks!
oshera said:
Im no android expert(far from it), and prefer to stick to the most simple methods as long as i can run xposed framework.
this is why OTA without flashing or interfering with OS is best for me.
Keep this as last resort if no progress will happen regarding OTA updates.
Thanks!
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OTA is more complex if you're rooted.. There's more flashing involved if you have / want a custom recovery (which all rooted users should aim to have)
Just download the full rooted stock ROM in android development and flash it without wipe from recovery.
It's actually fewer steps anyway.
OTA = revert system changes, boot recovery, flash, re-flash recovery, re-root
Rooted stock = boot recovery, flash
No brainer really. Flashing an OTA if rooted is a fool's errand
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oshera said:
Im no android expert(far from it), and prefer to stick to the most simple methods as long as i can run xposed framework.
this is why OTA without flashing or interfering with OS is best for me.
Keep this as last resort if no progress will happen regarding OTA updates.
Thanks!
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lmao, its FAR from the most simple method. most simple method would be to dirty flash a 443 stock/rooted rom and call it a day, without over complicating anything.
oshera said:
Hi, have seen some posts for this issue but none really help me understand what went wrong (tried this update 3 times with same result)
I have nexus 5 with android 4.4.2, rooted with CF-Auto root.
Recently i received OTA update notification to 4.4.3, but when i'm trying to install it i get error without any info.
Before trying to update i completely uninstall xposed and all of its modules.
To my understanding using CF-Autoroot should not interfere with OTA updates.
Any ideas?
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Did you uninstall Xposed from within the app? If you simply uninstalled it the same way you install regular aps (by dragging to uninstall from the app drawer) then it doesn't completely uninstall.
marleyfan61 said:
Did you uninstall Xposed from within the app? If you simply uninstalled it the same way you install regular aps (by dragging to uninstall from the app drawer) then it doesn't completely uninstall.
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Thank you!
That fixed my problem, after uninstall from within the app i could use OTA updates without flahing anything!
And thanks for everyone else for advises
oshera said:
Thank you!
That fixed my problem, after uninstall from within the app i could use OTA updates without flahing anything!
And thanks for everyone else for advises
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Glad it worked for you. For future reference, do read this sticky - http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217
(along with the other stickies in that forum)
I installed link2sd, everything was working perfectly, until noobie me switched apps to system apps (mainly Google play store) and the started breaking, tried to change them to user apps, and they disappeared. How would I go about getting tem back, would I have to flash gapps? AA did just unlock the bootloader and made a cwm for my phone if I need to.
sent from my lgms323 towelrooted waiting on custom rom
brentwago said:
I installed link2sd, everything was working perfectly, until noobie me switched apps to system apps (mainly Google play store) and the started breaking, tried to change them to user apps, and they disappeared. How would I go about getting tem back, would I have to flash gapps? AA did just unlock the bootloader and made a cwm for my phone if I need to.
sent from my lgms323 towelrooted waiting on custom rom
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Yes, flash Gapps and it should be fine
TechMinerUK said:
Yes, flash Gapps and it should be fine
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Thanks, was able to "factory reset" back to stock and they all reinstalled.
Device: LGMS323 rooted
brentwago said:
Thanks, was able to "factory reset" back to stock and they all reinstalled.
Device: LGMS323 rooted
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Good, I'm glad it's working again
Just for future reference, I think that whenever switching between user/system apps you always need a reboot.
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lolcakes203 said:
Just for future reference, I think that whenever switching between user/system apps you always need a reboot.
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I did reboot, after every change.
Device: LGMS323 rooted
Since I've updated to 5.1 I've notice my nexus has become choppy and studders. Opening messages or even the keyboard there are times it lags to open. Over all over notice a lot of lag. Anyone else has this.
Nexus 5 > Stock 5.1 > Franco kernel
Wipe data factory reset
You probably didn't install Android right. Try doing what shhbz said.
Dont restore from titanium backup
Why not restore from titanium.backup?
Maxamillion said:
Why not restore from titanium.backup?
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So that you won't open a thread like this.
I usually always restore my apos from titanium backup
Did you flash the stock firmware using the nexus root toolkit? If so did you see an error saying missing system.img? I am having the same problem with my nexus 6 and i feel like that could be an issue. Does anyone have any thoughts?
PhyscoAssassinx said:
Since I've updated to 5.1 I've notice my nexus has become choppy and studders. Opening messages or even the keyboard there are times it lags to open. Over all over notice a lot of lag. Anyone else has this.
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Did you try with stock kernel instead?
aldyu said:
So that you won't open a thread like this.
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Sigh It's impossible to open a thread without some a**wipe thinking you're new to this rooting and roming
Robbamus15 said:
Did you flash the stock firmware using the nexus root toolkit? If so did you see an error saying missing system.img? I am having the same problem with my nexus 6 and i feel like that could be an issue. Does anyone have any thoughts?
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No I flashed the good old ADB way, but u had to redownload the factory img because the first download was corrupted, the second download flashed everything (boot,bootload,system,radio) flashed flawlessly
zagorteney said:
Did you try with stock kernel instead?
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I originally had stock kernel battery life performances was below par (lag was present)
I reflashed 5.1 and set up the phone as new (restored selected apps via titanium backup[emoji19]) and so far everything seems to have improved no lag until I get to 5%ish battery
PhyscoAssassinx said:
Sigh It's impossible to open a thread without some a**wipe thinking you're new to this rooting and roming
No I flashed the good old ADB way, but u had to redownload the factory img because the first download was corrupted, the second download flashed everything (boot,bootload,system,radio) flashed flawlessly
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You are indeed not new since you can flash images via adb, we can only flash via fastboot.
aldyu said:
You are indeed not new since you can flash images via adb, we can only flash via fastboot.
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Apologize accepted[emoji56]
for me trim was the culprit, doing a simple
Code:
su
fstrim -v /system
fstrim -v /data
fstrim -v /cache
helped
PhyscoAssassinx said:
Since I've updated to 5.1 I've notice my nexus has become choppy and studders. Opening messages or even the keyboard there are times it lags to open. Over all over notice a lot of lag. Anyone else has this.
Nexus 5 > Stock 5.1 > Franco kernel
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Sounds like a dirty install. I've found 5.1 really smooth and fast
ratson said:
for me trim was the culprit, doing a simple
Code:
su
fstrim -v /system
fstrim -v /data
fstrim -v /cache
helped
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Ugh I remember this bug from the jellybean days.... I did the trim wipe currently at 7% with no lag seems like it was the culprit thanks ratson!
Maxamillion said:
I usually always restore my apos from titanium backup
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Then you are wrong if you restore SYSTEM apks.
Primokorn said:
Then you are wrong if you restore SYSTEM apks.
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TiB can't restore system apps since 4.4.4. It try to, but it put restored app directly in /system/app folder without doing another folder for it. It is never a problem to restore any data if you are staying stock and flash upgrade, but it is if you downgrade system or switch for example to CM. The same way as OTA update doesn't touch data partition and everything is still working fine.
zagorteney said:
TiB can't restore system apps since 4.4.4. It try to, but it put restored app directly in /system/app folder without doing another folder for it. It is never a problem to restore any data if you are staying stock and flash upgrade, but it is if you downgrade system or switch for example to CM. The same way as OTA update doesn't touch data partition and everything is still working fine.
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Try to restore (with TB or something else) system files from Android 4.4 to 5.0 or from 5.0.2. to 5.1. You will probably have FCs.
That is a part of the 'clean install' definition.
Yup pretty quick and smooth with me too, try re-clean flashing and stay on stock kernel.
Till now my only downside is the lack of Xposed (ironically we just got it on 5.0)
PhyscoAssassinx said:
Ugh I remember this bug from the jellybean days.... I did the trim wipe currently at 7% with no lag seems like it was the culprit thanks ratson!
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you are welcome bro
I'm on rooted Oreo 8.0. In UK. Security update has appeared. Anyone tried taking it on a rooted Oreo Pixel? I'm not too bothered about losing root, that's easy to put right, I just want to avoid a time consuming disaster.
All working fine here, of course have to reroot and whatnot. But no problems.
It won't let me install it. Whatever no big deal
cgrimm9 said:
It won't let me install it. Whatever no big deal
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It won't let me install it as well. Don't want to have to update by flashing factory image and losing data. But. It wouldn't be the first time. So, yeah no big deal, just a bit of a pain.
Horgar said:
It won't let me install it as well. Don't want to have to update by flashing factory image and losing data. But. It wouldn't be the first time. So, yeah no big deal, just a bit of a pain.
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Before flashing factory script, edit the script to remove "-w"
It is the "-w" that wipes device, not the factory firmware.
This has been discussed again and again since November 2016.
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I downloaded the full image and removed the -w in the flash-all then saved it and updated, rerooted, added back su hide no problem at all. Even kept my theme installed!
Archangel said:
I downloaded the full image and removed the -w in the flash-all then saved it and updated, rerooted, added back su hide no problem at all. Even kept my theme installed!
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Did you have to wipe the internal storage in TWRP as the root guide suggests again? Or was that a one time deal for when we first move to Android O?
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Nope didnt wipe internal storage. But I assume that was needed coming from N to O and I modded the flash all bat to not erase my system for this Sept full image. So far so good, if i see anything bad I will report back here.
mike86325 said:
Did you have to wipe the internal storage in TWRP as the root guide suggests again? Or was that a one time deal for when we first move to Android O?
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Same here. Used the image from the Google site with the -w removed and no wipe. Re-roooted with no issue and it even kept suhide and it functioned after the root. Did this on an XL and a Pixel last night with no issues so far. No Google Play Services crashes on reboot either, so that is a win.
Does anyone know what are the issues with september update? Or google just fixed everything with this new release?
I can't find the changelog anywhere :/
Anyone actually had the Sept update yet?
I haven't.
Update: just unenrolled from the Beta and the update popped up.