Anyone else see this? It's touted for the nexus 5 in addition to other devices. Anyone know why? Will it root with a locked bootloader ?
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We only need to unlock the bootloader to flash recovery. If an exploit has been found in kitkat, it is possible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
This could mean a full, end-to-end rooting process without the need to use a pc
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We only need to unlock the bootloader to flash recovery. If an exploit has been found in kitkat, it is possible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
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Can you flash a recovery from Android, say through Flashify, if you have root, but the bootloader is locked?
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Can you flash a recovery from Android, say through Flashify, if you have root, but the bootloader is locked?
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Yeah.. My bootloader is locked and can flash recovery via flashify.
Although that's assuming bootunlocker truly locks the same as fastboot does because that's how I locked my bl.
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We only need to unlock the bootloader to flash recovery. If an exploit has been found in kitkat, it is possible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
This could mean a full, end-to-end rooting process without the need to use a pc
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This thing is so damn easy to root I'm surprised he'd even mention the n5.
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Can you flash a recovery from Android, say through Flashify, if you have root, but the bootloader is locked?
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yes. if you have root you can. worst case, there are apps to lock/unlock your bootloader if you do have root. can unlock, flash recovery via flashify, then relock.
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just tried it on my unrooted verizon s4.. it doesnt seem to work?
I just did this on my N5 4.4.3 and it worked! My N5 was 100% stock before this.
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I just did this on my N5 4.4.3 and it worked! My N5 was 100% stock before this.
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Was your bootloader locked or unlocked?
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I just did this on my N5 4.4.3 and it worked! My N5 was 100% stock before this.
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Good news. Or maybe it's not!
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Good news. Or maybe it's not!
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Why not?
Bootloader is locked.
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Why not?
Bootloader is locked.
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Good news now!
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Why not?
Bootloader is lock.
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Because I think an app that can root without a pc (and fastboot) will promote a lack of the need to learn the basics, giving us members here a hard time supporting people who don't know the basics
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Because I think an app that can root without a pc (and fastboot) will promote a lack of the need to learn the basics, giving us members here a hard time supporting people who don't know the basics
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Understood, but this tool is handy for me that decided to root my phone after had everything setup and I was lazy to backup everything > unlocked, root etc and restore.
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Understood, but this tool is handy for me that decided to root my phone after had everything setup and I was lazy to backup everything > unlocked, root etc and restore.
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Oh yeah absolutely it's very handy. Just will it cause the forum problems later on is the question
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Because I think an app that can root without a pc (and fastboot) will promote a lack of the need to learn the basics, giving us members here a hard time supporting people who don't know the basics
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almost makes root toolkits seem more appealing. almost, not quite
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almost makes root toolkits seem more appealing. almost, not quite
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Haha. I wouldn't go that far
I just fear we'll get a new class of people. The "commute and root" crowd who accidentally wipe their ROM on the train to work ?
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Haha. I wouldn't go that far
I just fear we'll get a new class of people. The "commute and root" crowd who accidentally wipe their ROM on the train to work ?
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They're already here, sadly
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They're already here, sadly
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Yeah but someone who wipes /system on a train has at least possibly previously used fastboot or has a backup stored off their phone.
I see a lot of twrp users wiping /system and /sdcard.. If these people do the whole process on the way to work,, there's 0 chance of any backup anywhere.
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Yeah but someone who wipes /system on a train has at least possibly previously used fastboot or has a backup stored off their phone.
I see a lot of twrp users wiping /system and /sdcard.. If these people do the whole process on the way to work,, there's 0 chance of any backup anywhere.
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Totally agree. Then it's up to us to teach them fastboot and flash a factory image. Yea, it kind of sucks, I'll a agree. But what can we do?
@rootSU you don't know how much I agree with you, a s.... storm is happening in the s4 forum because of towelroot.
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Totally agree. Then it's up to us to teach them fastboot and flash a factory image. Yea, it kind of sucks, I'll a agree. But what can we do?
@rootSU you don't know how much I agree with you, a s.... storm is happening in the s4 forum because of towelroot.
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Here's my stance.
I will not mention it as an option. If anyone asks if they can root without a pc I will not answer.. If anyone else mentions this app to them or someone asks about it specifically, I will advise on a best practice. I will also give warnings
Thats all I can do.
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We could make a guide but I haven't time to do that right now. But if we could create our own guide with our warnings about not flashing anything until Nandroid and always being extra sure not to wipe stuff whilst away etc,, maybe there is a chance?
I don't know. It's a Concern
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I still have months to go before I can upgrade, but, unless Samsung come out with something mind blowing before then I'll be looking at other possibilities. particularly a Google flagship!
My question is this - I use Odin to root a Samsung. It's very straight forward to do. In comparison how difficult\different is it to root a nexus?
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I still have months to go before I can upgrade, but, unless Samsung come out with something mind blowing before then I'll be looking at other possibilities. particularly a Google flagship!
My question is this - I use Odin to root a Samsung. It's very straight forward to do. In comparison how difficult\different is it to root a nexus?
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Nexus device are as easy to root, just like samsung devices. Although, now that they have Nox(security) I don't know how easy it will be in the future..
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Thanks mate. Yeah I read is using selinux secure mode now. Will be interesting.
Try thanking you but the XDA app is playing up and I'm on a bus so can't get to a PC.
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It's extremely easy. I don't normally recommend using a tool kit and prefer the old fashion way. It's already so simple as it is. Install drivers, fastboot oem unlock.
Done. Samsung Odin is equivalent to fastboot but better and less buggy than Odin.
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Nexus device are as easy to root, just like samsung devices. Although, now that they have Nox(security) I don't know how easy it will be in the future..
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I feel like this won't be much issue. People buy a Nexus because it's open and you can play with stuff. I feel like too many people would be pissed at google if this actually had any real affect on things.
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Yeah it's as easy as 3 or 4 commands in fastboot.
OEM unlock
flash recovery
flash ROM / kernel
Done.
Can anyone tell me the steps to root my nexus please
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Can anyone tell me the steps to root my nexus please
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Search.
There is a root thread.
Is there a way to root but don't lose any on the phone? I got to much apps and stuff.
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Unlocking your bootloader is what deletes everything. And no, if you're not unlocked, there's no way around it. Just back up everything to a PC beforehand.
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Is there a way to root but don't lose any on the phone? I got to much apps and stuff.
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Rooting won't erase anything, however unlocking the bootloader, if you have't already will wipe all of your data.
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Rooting won't erase anything, however unlocking the bootloader, if you have't already will wipe all of your data.
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So I can root and use titanium backup ? then from there I can unlock the bootloader and recovery right?
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So I can root and use titanium backup ? then from there I can unlock the bootloader and recovery right?
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You can't root without first unlocking the bootloader. If you don't know that maybe you shouldn't be messing around with your phone, at least not until you've done all your homework.
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You can't root without first unlocking the bootloader. If you don't know that maybe you shouldn't be messing around with your phone, at least not until you've done all your homework.
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Okay I get what you mean now. Its been awhile since a rooted a phone lol. I forgot the progress
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Please help.I've unlocked the boot loader and need to know how to root using phone terminal only
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Please help.I've unlocked the boot loader and need to know how to root using phone terminal only
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It cannot be done. You must use fastboot commands to flash a custom recovery first, then you can root from there
Well you unlocked the bootloader so why not fallow the next step wile you were plugged in?
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He switched it off and screamed about viruses!
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He switched it off and screamed about viruses!
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OK. Wait till he leaves the house and then do it.
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OK. Wait till he leaves the house and then do it.
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Lmao
I'll have to break in. Think I'll just go and Do it. Offered him 20 USD to do it!
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I'll have to break in. Think I'll just go and Do it. Offered him 20 USD to do it!
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Why not just have him killed?
I'm not that familiar with dd commands but couldn't he use in a terminal
dd if=recovery.img of= recovery partition
You'd have to make sure you know the recovery partition precisely, there's a thread here some where, Google nexus 5 partitions xda
Ps, make sure you know the exact command because dd commands can be dangerous
Pss, looks like it should be
dd if=/sdcard/recovery.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0pxx
Where xx= recovery partition
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I'm not that familiar with dd commands but couldn't he use in a terminal
dd if=recovery.img of= recovery partition
You'd have to make sure you know the recovery partition precisely, there's a thread here some where, Google nexus 5 partitions xda
Ps, make sure you know the exact command because dd commands can be dangerous
Pss, looks like it should be
dd if=/sdcard/recovery.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0pxx
Where xx= recovery partition
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Cant see how that would work from within android without root.
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Cant see how that would work from within android without root.
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You're right, he doesn't have root. I got too excited and stopped thinking
I know it was possible to fully root $amsung s2 on the phone. I did it
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I know it was possible to fully root $amsung s2 on the phone. I did it
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I think you still needed Odin to put a recovery on, unless Mobil Odin worked on your s2. I had a skyrocket where Mobil Odin didn't work. There is nothing like Mobil Odin for the nexus 5.
It was a backdoor method exynos abuse apk you could root without Odin.
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I know it was possible to fully root $amsung s2 on the phone. I did it
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The galaxy s2 had a different version of android than the nexus 5 with different (known) security vulnerabilities that could be exploited to achieve root.
The Nexus 5 / KitKat has no known vulnerabilities that can be exploited. You must believe us when we tell you, there is no way to root the phone without a computer using fastboot!
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I think you still needed Odin to put a recovery on, unless Mobil Odin worked on your s2. I had a skyrocket where Mobil Odin didn't work. There is nothing like Mobil Odin for the nexus 5.
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If you're unlocked and rooted, you can use flashify to flash recovery from the phone. Like mobile Odin though, it still needs root
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I know how to use adb and I'm not too inexperienced with it. Is there a way that I could push files to the system partition without having root on the device? I'm on stock ROM and I do not want to unlock the boot loader or root it, I just need to push a file to the system partition.
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I am pretty sure you can only push files to the SD card without root. Rooting/ unlocking doesn't hurt. Try helium for a backup.
I know it doesn't hurt, I just came back to the stock ROM after using my own compiled ROM. I just didn't want to mod it except that one file, thanks though
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You should be able to do it in custom recovery
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Am I able to boot into one without flashing it while my bootloader is locked? I do not want to unlock my bootloader
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Not without unlocking your bootloader.
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Okay, if I decide to unlock, I can use adb to backup my data partition before the unlock and then restore it after I unlock right?
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Hmmm. Not sure if you can access /data without root via adb. Helium backs everything up so maybe it can. Try it. Im never unrooted enough to know
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Okay, if I decide to unlock, I can use adb to backup my data partition before the unlock and then restore it after I unlock right?
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Here's a good guide to use when performing an adb backup. No you do not need root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
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Here's a good guide to use when performing an adb backup. No you do not need root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
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Thanks! I was actually reading this not long ago, I plan do do it soon
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Hi, (see attached picture) I know that even though my nexus is a 16gb model there is actually only 13gb available....but what I do not understand is why do I only have 500mb free when apps and pictures and other things only take up 5gb in total. So 12gb - 5gb is 7gb..... So where has my 7gb gone when my phone is only stating 500mb?
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Hi, (see attached picture) I know that even though my nexus is a 16gb model there is actually only 13gb available....but what I do not understand is why do I only have 500mb free when apps and pictures and other things only take up 5gb in total. So 12gb - 5gb is 7gb..... So where has my 7gb gone when my phone is only stating 500mb?
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nandroid backups and such? use the disk usage app to look at what your storage contains..
This is all covered in the sticky threads. Link in my signature. There's a data info thread
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nandroid backups and such? use the disk usage app to look at what your storage contains..
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Nope don't think so.... I'll give it a check anyways.....thanks!
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nandroid backups and such? use the disk usage app to look at what your storage contains..
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Hi! Is it normal for the system to take up 5gb?
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Hi! Is it normal for the system to take up 5gb?
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See my previous post. And stop using CWM!...and yes its normal if you use CWM
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See my previous post. And stop using CWM!
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Sorry...wat do u mean CWM? Clock work mode....and why stop?
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Nope don't think so.... I'll give it a check anyways.....thanks!
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give it a check out at least, nandroids can take 3-4gb data storage easily. also, the app disk usage, its pretty damn good with helping you find whats taking your storage.
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give it a check out at least, nandroids can take 3-4gb data storage easily. also, the app disk usage, its pretty damn good with helping you find whats taking your storage.
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Have done so...see PIC above.....saying system storage taking up 5gb?
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Sorry...wat do u mean CWM? Clock work mode....and why stop?
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Clockwork mod recovery and why? Because its crap and antiquated and because you use cwm, you had to create this thread. So PLEASE read my thread. It has all your answers. I won't retype what I've already written. If you want the answer, read it. If you don't. Well...don't.
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Hi! Is it normal for the system to take up 5gb?
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See my previous post. And stop using CWM!...and yes its normal if you use CWM
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clockworkmod recovery.
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btw, read @rootSU 's thread as well
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Have done so...see PIC above.....saying system storage taking up 5gb?
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I've answered this several times. Leaving thread now. Bye
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Yep... Cwm taking alot....how to delete it?
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Yep... Cwm taking alot....how to delete it?
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install the flashify app, download the latest twrp recovery, then use flashify to flash it. and that disk usage app ive been using now for nearly 6 years
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download the latest twrp recovery
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Or Philz.... In fact with philz, you can still restore existing cwm backups
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install the flashify app, download the latest twrp recovery, then use flashify to flash it. and that disk usage app ive been using now for nearly 6 years
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I assume I can flash on top with flashiy over cwm? Will I lose data? And do I just download the twrp.zip.
Once I have done that then what do I do next
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Or Philz.... In fact with philz, you can still restore existing cwm backups
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or philz
dec1153 said:
I assume I can flash on top with flashiy over cwm? Will I lose data? And do I just download the twrp.zip.
Once I have done that then what do I do next
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This is all really basic stuff. You've been in these forums a while now. I think you really need to read all the sticky threads in my signature before you do any more modifications to your phone because you don't seem to have picked up much all this time. Not trying to be offensive... Buy this stuff is easy and you should / need to know it.
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I assume I can flash on top with flashiy over cwm? Will I lose data? And do I just download the twrp.zip.
Once I have done that then what do I do next
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its actually a twrp.img
yea, can flash right over, no data will be lost. if it doesn't work the first time, flash it again. but @rootSU is right, at least philz can restore your old cwm backup.
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its actually a twrp.img
yea, can flash right over, no data will be lost. if it doesn't work the first time, flash it again. but @rootSU is right, at least philz can restore your old cwm backup.
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Thanks you have been really helpful. Once I have flashed....will that delete the access 5gb from cwm?
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