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The dock is obviously great if you don't mind paying for it or get it free. However it's a bit clunky to carry around with you (if using a portable external battery) or in a car.
It's not a great option having to remove the waterproof flap all the time to charge as well.
So I got to thinking, could one modify an old mini / micro usb cable (I've tons of old micro ones laying around), so that the +/- cables go straight to the metal contacts on the Xz. I assume it is just a case of +/- on the docking connector? Would it matter if they were connected the wrong way...?
It'll be a bit of an in-elegant solution but to start with I was thinking of some bluetack and some sort of spacing connector bar to quickly press onto / pull off the phone.
I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
Good luck
For in-car use, I personally would put the sony charger there for the moment.
Brodit the in car holder maker will also make a version of holder which will use the contacts, but not sure when that will be out.
I'm wondering now if it might not be easier just to wait for a cheap chinese dock to come out on ebay. The dock's also got an advantage it'll hold your phone nicely if you want to use it with an external keyboard, or watch a film for example.
Just not keen on spending £25 on one.
I think it would be pretty easy to make your own, for the electrics would it just be a case of cutting the micro usb connector off then attaching red + black wires?
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I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
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Could someone with a dock check and post it?
Would be great.
This would be so cool. If it was like the Magsafe connectors on Macbooks it would be ideal. Probably not for me though. Hope you can do it.
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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copper foil would be easiest way to make the contacts, I've used it a few times in the past with my DIY wireless chargers
MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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I think that the biggest challange will be finding someone who will tell us which pin is + .....
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has anyone got a dock yet?
The 3rd party stockists haven't shipped them yet have they? The bundle/deal is a post out one..
made a sort of dock, using 2 pins from a computer molex connector + foil, held the correct distance apart with glue from a hot glue gun, but need to wait until someone can find out the polarity before trying it!
I have exactly the same DIY idea but I want to kill two birds in one stone – wireless charging and MagSafe type of mobile charging interface.
I target for Xperia Z for its IPX protection and 4G. Being an IPX certified device, the port covers are important that I don’t know why Sony doesn’t have wireless charging just like its competitor Panasonic (model P-02E has both wireless charging and replaceable battery) having. The charging dock can solve this shortcoming a bit but the dock is only good for placing at home or in the office. When charging with external battery pack on the road, the it is better to have some handy charging cable to charge through the 2-pin. Then MagSafe type of cable is a good candidate.
Googled a bit and found a flip case (Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for Sony Xperia Z) with Qi charging ready and I wonder it is utilizing the 2-pin as well. If I do the DIY, I will use a thin plastic case with the following components:
1) attach a Qi/Touchstone charging coil at the inner back side of the case
2) on side edge of the case facing the 2-pin of the device, I will attach a new 2-pin port with 2 small iron plate on each end, the 2-pin will connect to the charging coil and acts as the connector for the 2-pin of the device and piggy-back to the dock for charging
3) MagSafe type of charging cable is made by a normal USB cable with one end chopped to make a 2-pin connector with 2 small permanent magnets on each end for attaching to the iron plate mounted on the case above
Great idea Kimmy, looking forward to your work! Let us know what parts you use and where you get them! Would be great !
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I was thinking of a simple clip onto the side over the pogo pins.
Has anyone got the polarity yet?
Those of you who maybe reading this and have the dock already please check the polarity.
And we have an answer!
The + is the upper pin, - is the lower
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38868648
Time to start playing
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I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
jimsey said:
I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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yeah I wanted spring loaded pins and came across the old sony charger adapter when looking through my box of spares.
I opened up the jack and the pins just slide out with some careful pulling and slide back into another position, I then trimmed off the 2 prongs sony use to hold the charger into the phone, then it was just a case of fixing the jack in place with some hot glue.
the other idea i had was nabbing the battery contacts out of one of my daughters old toys, or making contacts from copper foil, but i'm happy with this result.
As i said I'll cover it in Black felt or plether tomorrow, and i'm sure it look much neater
What about instead of making a dock, just making a small, magnetized connector that attaches directly to the pins?
I'm still waiting for the phone to be released here so cant experiment but do you think this could be achievable?
I'm going to have a go at a small clip on using sugru/silicon rubber
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Just as the title states, I was going to order a z1 magnetic charger for my z1c because I have a gift card for Amazon. I couldn't find one specific to z1c, but was wondering if the z1 magnetic charger will fit the z1c port? Thank you
It should, because the one I bought from DX-Box (link) says "For Xperia™ Z Ultra/Z1" on the box so I assume they all have the same port.
Yes.
Yes, it is the same. I'm using it on my Z1C: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51077967#post51077967
No, be careful. The Z1 cable I bought from here does not fit.
The Z1 Compact fits the other dock adapter supplied with DK31, aka "Z1 with case". As far as I can tell there's absolutely no leeway though, meaning any Z1C with even a thin layer of screen protector would likely not fit.
Even if it does not fit, you should be able to cut it to size. The connector itself is the same.
Any news about this charger, can I buy magnetic charger for z1, will it fit?
Nobody tried it?
it does just got one from e bay http://www.ebay.com/itm/291019831710?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 which has removable parts.after removing those it works.otherwise slot is bit small for our phone.its fin too got a cable+ adapter for $0.99 it fits http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360897453227
I am using my tablet z2 charger for my z1 C and it works. I just have to remove the plastic holder, put z1C in and thats it.:good:
choboii said:
Just as the title states, I was going to order a z1 magnetic charger for my z1c because I have a gift card for Amazon. I couldn't find one specific to z1c, but was wondering if the z1 magnetic charger will fit the z1c port? Thank you
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Sony official website show :
DK 32 dock is compatible with Xperia Z1 compact.
And Dk 31 dock is compatible with Xperia Z1.
So I think the z1 magnetic charge is not fit the Z1c port.
LotoTutu said:
Sony official website show :
DK 32 dock is compatible with Xperia Z1 compact.
And Dk 31 dock is compatible with Xperia Z1.
So I think the z1 magnetic charge is not fit the Z1c port.
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Read the thread, the magnetic port is the same on both. However, Z1 and Z1c have different thickness, therefore they have different docking stations, that's the only reason.
Hello,
I was just wondering if there was a seperate Qi coil/ Qi Reciever that could connect to the Dock port on our Xperia Z3 Devices on sale?
You can't add any aftermarket coils to a "sealed" phone with non-removable back part. Only thing you can do is buy a case with it built-in, and there's only one such option, which you might or might not like:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
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You can't add any aftermarket coils to a "sealed" phone with non-removable back part. Only thing you can do is buy a case with it built-in, and there's only one such option, which you might or might not like:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/wireless-charging-cover-wcr14/
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I'm going to have to disagree, you definitely can, They've invented it for MicroUSB: ( http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal...ories_MobilePhoneChargers&hash=item3f3f329a3f ) and as you can see it only uses 2 Pins out of the 5 pin connection, So Making a Dock ported Qi Reciever is definitely possible, It would be helpful because instead of wasting £60+ I could just make my own with a regular flipcase by dremeling out a inner square on the plastic place so the Qi Reciever would slot in
What I meant is that you can't insert the coil into phone itself, like you can easily do on Galaxy S5 or certain models of LG G3 regardless of the type of case you might or might not use. You can certainly attach all kind of crap on the outside of ANY phone, you can do that even with Apple devices. And if you think you can easily embed the Qi coil into existing flip case and make it look as good and be as reliable and long-lasting as Sony's own Qi flip case - well, good luck
I've been looking for the same. I've thought about making my own, but I need a low profile male recepticle for the charging port.
Hi All,
I need help regarding magnetic charger for xperia ZR,
While searching in google i found a magnetic charger in flipkart and snapdeal
www . flipkart . com/acm-magnetic-usb-cable/p/itme4g7fzpyssyfd?pid=ACCE4G7F9UU3MZM3
www . snapdeal . com/product/acmmagnetic-usb-charging-cable-charger/329663401[/url]
As anyone used it, Anyone know anything about it please help me.
xtremegiri said:
Hi All,
I need help regarding magnetic charger for xperia ZR,
While searching in google i found a magnetic charger in flipkart and snapdeal
www . flipkart . com/acm-magnetic-usb-cable/p/itme4g7fzpyssyfd?pid=ACCE4G7F9UU3MZM3
www . snapdeal . com/product/acmmagnetic-usb-charging-cable-charger/329663401[/url]
As anyone used it, Anyone know anything about it please help me.
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If no one used these, atleast please let me know where i can get a good magnetic charger in india.
I am also looking for a magnetic charger, let me know if you find anything, I ordered the cheapest on ebay already, it was like 350INR, but I will get something better too.
jassalmithu said:
I am also looking for a magnetic charger, let me know if you find anything, I ordered the cheapest on ebay already, it was like 350INR, but I will get something better too.
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How is the one which you got from ebay. Does it work. How is the magnets
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Hi! @jassalmithu @xtremegiri
I have 4 magnetic chargers as I don't like to open the flaps for charging with the micro usb.
1. Official sony dock charger http://goo.gl/y5og7B
2. Ebay india magnetic charger http://goo.gl/1jluTs its a nice one but magnet is not so strong but better than chinese and I use this in my card for emergency charging or while I am travelling.
3. Some ebay.com Chinese charger http://goo.gl/uNmuvr & http://goo.gl/lCicLY same problem as the Indian ebay one it just fall off so easily you can't rely on it.
But the best one is the sony's official magnetic dock charger which I am using on daily basis, but this charger also have some fitting problems with different cases so you have to custom fit it.
Now I will be buying this http://goo.gl/iZV5FR as I have checked reviews, they say its the best with strong magnet so it wont fall of while charging but it costs almost rupee 1500 with shipping, so still thinking about it.
The chargers which are mentioned by @xtremegiri are almost same as the one I bought from ebay.in
Hope this helps who are confused with magnetic chargers
@xtremegiri @sanros The charger from eBay works but charges really slow, I was looking for one with strong magnets but you wouldn't get one as the magnet in the body is not pay off the phone chassis and can come out with strong magnets comprising water proofing, I got the dock and took out the cable from the dock, I might get another official dock soon, stay away from third party cables, they don't work well, I also ordered the connector which converts regular micro USB to magnetic connector, will let you guys know when I get it
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@xtremegiri @sanros The charger from eBay works but charges really slow, I was looking for one with strong magnets but you wouldn't get one as the magnet in the body is not pay off the phone chassis and can come out with strong magnets comprising water proofing, I got the dock and took out the cable from the dock, I might get another official dock soon, stay away from third party cables, they don't work well, I also ordered the connector which converts regular micro USB to magnetic connector, will let you guys know when I get it
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Will be waiting for your reply once you test it.
@ sanros - can't carry Sony dock to office that's why looking for magnetic charger
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xtremegiri said:
Will be waiting for your reply once you test it.
@ sanros - can't carry Sony dock to office that's why looking for magnetic charger
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That's what i was saying, you can take the cable out from Sony dock, i know it's expensive but that's the only way of getting the official Sony cable. The dock is just the regular magnetic cable inside the dock.
I got 2 from ebay - http://www.ebay.in/itm/201295121918?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 and quite happy with those those. The magnet is quite strong and doesn't fall off easily. ......I hope it stays this way.
Also it charges upto 100% no issues
arindamb said:
I got 2 from ebay - http://www.ebay.in/itm/201295121918?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 and quite happy with those those. The magnet is quite strong and doesn't fall off easily. ......I hope it stays this way.
Also it charges upto 100% no issues
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I have one of this in a white color with Sony CP-AD2 USB AC Adaptor (2.1 mAh).
Hi! @jassalmithu @xtremegiri
buy this if you guys really want the best and compact one http://goo.gl/iZV5FR as I have checked reviews, they say its the best with strong magnet so it wont fall of while charging, I will also be ordering this soon.
@sanros. Thanks will look into it.
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for those who have it and used it for long time..
1) is it charging faster/slower/same than regularly charging? (with the same charger of course)
2) is it actually comfortable? after trying it, do you actually use it daily and enjoy or its a gimmick only and you went back to the regular cable?
3) is it causing any damages? bugs? weird stuffs?
I'm Z owner (it doesn't compatible with magnets) and I'm considering to upgrade to z2/3/3c with mainly reason of the magnetic charging..
Some experience sharing would really help me out here.. YouTube is only for unboxing and showing it but no real tips from experienced users..
Thanks.
Bought the official Sony magnetic dock, a Chinese knock off one from Amazon, and a magnetic cable.
The cable is useless, the magnet hardly keeps the connection, and falls off at the slightest knock. That's thrown in my drawer at work.
The Amazon bought dock is decent. Came with two adapters, one for the Z3, one ( I assume) for the Z3 compact. Does the job, charges I would say slightly slower than the mains charger. You can't use a case with it, as its almost exactly the correct width of the phone.
The official Sony dock (DK48) is a little better quality plastic, although you don't get a USB cable with it. It comes with 4 adapters, 2 for the Z3 and 2 for the Z3 compact (for use with or without a case). It's easier to use a case with these adapters, but a chunky case like a Casemate Tough would have no chance of fitting. It seems to charge about the same rate as a normal wall charger would.
I use the docks all the time, and very rarely use the micro USB slot to charge. I have the Amazon dock at work and the Sony one at home.
I'd recommend a dock purely to stop the port flap working loose, like it did on my original Z, plus it stops your phone sliding around your desk!
The only drawback was the price of the Sony dock. It was £20 for a bit of plastic, a micro USB slot and a magnet. The Amazon one was less than half that price, and I got a USB cable with it!
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Using Magnetor X cable for a while now. It saves alot of wear and tear on your USB. The magnetic field on phone gets worn a little, but thats it.
Charging time is about the same as regular USB.
Magnet is strong enough. Can be a bit fiddly connecting it and its a bit in the way and prone to get loose.
thank you both! really helpful
Magnetor X 2 adapter is fine for my use. Magnet is strong enough. Can be a fiddle to attach on occasion but usually it's fine. I use it on my desk at work and in the car.