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When using in car, playing music from Pandora, and using google navigation phone uses more power than what charger can provide. Ive got it on a fast charger, so its supplying more current than a standard one,....its not overheating because when it does the charge light blinks green then red. Screen is on all the time during navigation and set at 30%. Anyone have same experience? My Droid X would keep charging in same situation. This is going down in charge %. I was using das bamf rom, just switched to Perfect Storm 1.2, maybe will make a difference?
Also when plugged in to power its underclocked to 768mhz.
Would switching kernals make a difference?
What is the amp output of your car charger? I'm pretty sure you need at least 1amp to feed this device while using GPS and data. maybe 750ma will do it, but most recent phones, tablets, mifi devices, etc. require at least 1a.
Same thing is happening to me, I dont think the charger puts out enough juice. I've ordered a verizon 2amp dual USB adapter, hopefully it will put out enough to charge the device.
ilogik said:
Same thing is happening to me, I dont think the charger puts out enough juice. I've ordered a verizon 2amp dual USB adapter, hopefully it will put out enough to charge the device.
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This is the charger,..
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...&skuId=1114106&st=phone car charger&cp=1&lp=9
Not sure of its output.
Let me know how the 2 amp works for you.
I use the one sold at the Verizon Corp stores and use Pandora daily with no issues when charging.. Chrages up if it was under 100 and stays at 100 when it gets there..
wctaylor79 said:
I use the one sold at the Verizon Corp stores and use Pandora daily with no issues when charging.. Chrages up if it was under 100 and stays at 100 when it gets there..
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But I am using GPS with screen on the whole time, curious if you are too?
Turn your screen off. Navigation and Pandora will keep playing and your battery will slowly charge.
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I guess your right,...it must be more of a power hog than my X was using the same charger.
I've used Last.fm streaming with GPS navigation and screen on for multiple hours at a time without any battery drain. I don't know what car charger I'm using (an unofficial one that I bought for my Moto Droid), but I've been running the Das Bamf kernels for the most part. Even before I installed any of those kernels I never noticed any battery drain while plugged.
Same problem here.
I have a Belkin micro-charge 1A. Can't use navigation and Pandora without losing charge. I had the same problem with the iPhone before I bought the 1A charger, the 500mah wasn't powerful enough.
And turning off the screen when you're in navigation mode defies the purpose.
Do you turn off the screen of your Garmin or Tomtom while navigating? I didn't think so...
Let us know if a 2A charger does help.
Thanks for the feedback.
I called Rocketfish to try and find out just how much powa the charger I posted earlier put out. They didnt know, lol. They said usually its posted in their system, but that one wasnt.
But, after thinking about it, I had the screen on 100% brightness because of glare I was getting. Will tone it down and went to utkanos kernal and see how that rides out.
You need to get a charger with more power. I got one made for an ipad. It has 2 USB ports. Made by scouche or something like that. Had this issue with multiple chargers even on my droids.
this is completely normal for other phones too, like the nexus one. using NAvigation with the car dock pulls more power than the charger can supply, so the phone slowly drops while charging. not much can be done about it. i bought a 1.3 amp car charger. helps a bit.
is there anytype of pocket charger you can buy, not a extra battery.
http://www.duracell.com/en-US/category/power-reserves.jspx
try that matey
Philips also sells external power packs, like http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=SCE7640/05&slg=en&scy=GB
thanks guys but have you guys had any experiences with these types of power packs? what would you recommend?
whatever has the most capacity at the smallest form factor. I have a duracell one that is 1000mah and is about the size of small rectangle (i want to say 5" x 2")
thats sounds good how quick is the recharge? and how much did you get it for?
I have one of the ones that T-Mobile sells, I'm not sure what the mah is, but it almost completely charges my g2. It was about $40 I think.
It charges it quickly, haven't done any tests, but definetely faster than AC or USB.
it takes 2 or 3 hours to charge i think. and i paid 10-20 bucks. i can't remember since it's been about 2 years now...
ill definitely look around on whats the smallest and fastest thanks for all your support in this thread
I use a Power Monkey V2 for my phone. It is rated at 2700mA and I get one full charge out of it an another part charge.
It comes with various tips to fit numerous phones and other devices.
It's pocket sized but shaped like a bullet. Does the job nicely and comes with a retractable usb cable for charging it as well as a wall charger.
Just remember that if the external power rating is double the battery on the phone then you won't get 2 charges out of it. They will lose some power in converting the power from the battery to the phone.
I use mine for charging the phone, mp3 player and motorbike bluetooth headset when out on the bike for a few days. Also handy for a backup power supply for my satnav cause I use the nav for work and some of our work cars have broken cigarette lighters.
Cost me £35 and definately worth it. It puts out 800mA according to a power app on my phone.
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Check out Amazon. I got 2 aa-battery powered usb emergency chargers for less than $5 each.
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Radio Shack has a nice Enercell 2400mah one. Comes with miniUSB, microUSB, and iPod/iPhone charging connectors.
Hi,
I recently had to drive ~200km and I was listening to music via Spotify and using Google Navigation. I had the phone plugged in the entire time via this charger (sorry, only found it on the german amazon page) and the charge on my phone constantly decreased so after about 150km (~1,5h) my phone charge dropped from about 70 to 15 percent and I had to stop listening to music and start praying that my phone would last.
I know, that there are some chargers who don't deliver that much of power, but since I bought a pretty expensive charger, I thought that should not be a problem.
Any suggestions what I could do to track the amount of power that my phone got? (500mA / 1A) or similar?
Thanks
In siyah kernel you can increase the charge juice amount with extweak from googleplay. Its simple math, charger cant charge as fast much as phone can spend the battery juice.
You can do this: If your navigation app says to turn in abou 100km, you can turn off screen for 95kilometres and save battery juice.
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donverse said:
Hi,
I recently had to drive ~200km and I was listening to music via Spotify and using Google Navigation. I had the phone plugged in the entire time via this charger (sorry, only found it on the german amazon page) and the charge on my phone constantly decreased so after about 150km (~1,5h) my phone charge dropped from about 70 to 15 percent and I had to stop listening to music and start praying that my phone would last.
I know, that there are some chargers who don't deliver that much of power, but since I bought a pretty expensive charger, I thought that should not be a problem.
Any suggestions what I could do to track the amount of power that my phone got? (500mA / 1A) or similar?
Thanks
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HTC phones will only request 1A from the charger if the two middle pins are shorted, this at least works on every non HTC car charger I've used.
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I found that USB chargers don't work as well as an AC adapter. I got the Enercell™ 150W Power Inverter and it worked perfect with GPS and music.
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Same for me I'm using the same car charger that I've used to use with my desire S. If you want to use the gps you better charge your phone at home before leaving !!!
6gex said:
Same for me I'm using the same car charger that I've used to use with my desire S. If you want to use the gps you better charge your phone at home before leaving !!!
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I use the HTC cc c200, works fine for gps, music etc.
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Charger problem
I had the same problem with cheap ebay universal chargers. When I am on trip I use GPS, streaming pandora, Sync is on and some chargers can't keep up with this drain.
So I bought this Motorola charger that has 1300+ reviews on amazon and works very well. http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Vehicle-Adapter-micro-USB-Charger/dp/B000S5Q9CA
I suggest you buy this one and try it. If this charger does not work I doubt it any other will do. The inverter above is a good alternative, but I think you will be fine with the moto charger.
ps. also if you are in some country side area where the coverage is weak the phone uses more power to find cell towers. My experience above is mixed city-urban area/non urban
I also had the same issues with two different 12V to USB chargers.
I'm now enjoying this charger I got from my old Nokia N97 and it works great.
Sometimes, the USB cable is the issue and not the Charger!
Seriously, just get the HTC CC C200, its not even expensive....
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Should this phone be able to handle playing music from a downloaded spotify play list and run navigation at the same time through blue tooth without over heating or draining? I had the phone in a windshield dock the air conditioning was running. I noticed the phone was hot to the touch and despite being plugged in to a charger the battery was draining. I'm on the latest clean rom not overclocked.
After taking it down out of the windshield and keeping it right by the AC vent it cooled down but the battery still drained.
ETA: more details and clarified the question
I use panodora and navigation and haven't had an issue. If it's really hot out I aim one of the AC vets at it and that keeps it nice and cool. One of my docks is right below a vent so it works out perfectly.
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If temp inside the car is comfortable to humans the phone should not get that hot though right?
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If temp inside the car is comfortable to humans the phone should not get that hot though right?
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It gets warm for sure but not hot to the point of overheating. If it's in the sun though that could make it get too hot.
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Probably a dumb question but what's the voltage output on the dock? I had the same problem with my original Evo back in the day using a generic 600mA charging cable. Switched to a higher output and it stopped, although it's still charged SUPER slow while using navigation and music...
Never shut down or anything but maaan that puppy got hot.
Standard usb cable. Not a powered dock.
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Standard usb cable. Not a powered dock.
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Ah okay gotcha. Does it plug into a usb port straight through the car then or is it a cigarette lighter? I know this is irrelevant to the heat issue, but that losing battery while plugged in drove me nuts. Turned out the usb cable/plug I had wasn't pulling enough power from the cigarette/accessory outlet in the car to keep a positive charge going under load.
The phone showed it was being charged through "usb" instead of "a/c"
It's a cig lighter usb adapter. Never had a problem like this with any other device but I've never had a phone with this large a screen either.
Does it say it's charging through a/c under Settings->Power? Or usb? I know usb charges much slower. Most wall or car chargers list the output on the plug somewhere.
From what I've seen, anything around one amp should trigger a/c charging mode. Never had a problem with charging no matter what I run then.
I didn't look but the orange light was on and I saw the charging animation. I'll look at it next time I plug it in.
Hope that's at least helpful for the not charging thing anyways. Sorry for the semi-OT.
Anyways, I know mine gets warm when charging and when using navigation and gps. Combine the two and it gets scary. This has happened with my Evo, Evo 3d, and HOX. Dunno.
It worried me enough to post about it.
I just looked at the charger and is says 1000 milliamps max.
So your question is whether the phone will get hot while charging the battery and using navigation? Uh... Yeah, it will do that.
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So your question is whether the phone will get hot while charging the battery and using navigation? Uh... Yeah, it will do that.
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No my question was will running navigation and streaming at the same time cause it to overheat. One of the first things the phone do when it over heats is stop charging.
I had the same heating issue so I changed the charger - now, I use one that outputs 0.7 instead of 1.0. The default charger outputs 1.0.
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On my way home from Atlanta I stopped by an AT&T store and explained my problem. I purchased a 30 dollar usb car charger from them. On the way home I made sure it said charging on ac. I used Google navigation and spotify playing cached content and lost 20% in 2 hours. If this phone can't keep up with running 2 things at once I'm going to have to get something else.
would you believe a factory reset fixed it?
WEIRD
On my drive back today I resorted to turning off the screen when GPS was running. It was charging, but very slowly.
So a factory reset improved it for you? I might try that.
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would you believe a factory reset fixed it?
WEIRD
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Very strange man. So none of the heat issues anymore or anything? Glad you got it sorted out.
Ordered 19/2 Arrived 26/2 - 7 days from China / Singapore.
Comes with supplied charger.
Only had it one day.
Takes about twice as long to charge as a normal 2amp pregnant plug.
Looks good
After 2 weeks use
The charger works quite reliably with a TPC case on. The only problem is efficiency.It still takes twice the time to charge, and sometimes excessively long. Last night the phone was at 26% charge, put on mat, went to bed, after 10 hours was only at 76%. A cable charges it from flat in about 2 hours.
where did you buy it from?
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where did you buy it from?
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Fast Tech
Waiting for mine now, ordered on March 2nd...
AW: Fasttech QI charger A021527514 $35
Bought mine from Fast Tech too:
Charging speed is satisfactory but the battery temperature worries me a little...
The back of the device says:
Input: 5V 2A
Output: 5V 1A
And even apart from that it's pretty obvious, that it takes more time to charge wirelessly.
I'll try keeping the temperature lower by adding some sort of distance piece between charger and phone, maybe even charger and table - the little 'feet' on the charger's back are tiny...
Mine also gets much warmer on it than it does on the orb charger from Google/LG. Seems to charge fine though, I just use this one to top the phone off at work because its not secure or reliable enough to trust charging overnight.
How much did you pay for the original orb charger?
Google Play Hardware isn't available in my country
Eiertschik said:
How much did you pay for the original orb charger?
Google Play Hardware isn't available in my country
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Like $70US shipped. Worth every penny to me. It secures the device (I have had no slipping with the 3 Orbs in my house) and charges reliably. To place the phone on it where it wouldn't charge would require it to be placed at a very unstable position that is unnatural.
IT sucks they aren't available but it probably has something to do with regulations in your country on these types of devices. Google probably needs some sort of certification first. Id offer to bootleg one to you but by the time its all said and done it would probably be $100US before it got to you.
I don't think it's because of regulations - no Google hardware has ever been available in Austria. It's just a small european country.
I could wait until it's available in Germany - they got all devices so far.
In the meantime I'll keep testing this Fast Tech charger.
The LEDs are enjoyably dim and it works pretty good.
But sometimes when the phone is at 100% already and it receives a message the charger beeps as if the phone has just been placed on it.
I'll keep investigating
Here's two pictures, display at maximum brightness.
ive got one but i cant connect and use it by any other input eg xbox 360 usb or a standard usb socket only uses adapter included ,I've sent 5 email saying this but they don't understand they keep saying check the charger supplied but that's not the problem,it will not work with any other usb powered input
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I also tried using it with another adaptor (5V 1A) - whenever I placed the phone on the charger the right LED that flashes blue when charging turned red and the phone emitted a notification sound.
Using a Samsung Galaxy Note 2's adaptor (5V 2A) works - but only if the phone is placed directly onto the charger - using the adaptor that was shipped with the carger it also works if there's a gap of ~2mm.
Here's another picture of the charger, this time in a well-lit office.
good news and bad news ,good news is they have admitted its doest work on my usb charger or any other one apart ftom a pc or original charger and bad news is there still advertising it as powered from any usb port anywhere
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Just found the iluv iPad charger from asda works at £9 saves risking the adapter shame I can't use it with my 360
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Could you provide a shop link or something? I can't find anything...
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There seem to be multiple discussions regarding this charger: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
http://m.direct.asda.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-ASDA-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=000546056
i tried it works sometimes
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Well, after a few weeks my resumeé is: It works - but only kind of...
- It emits lots of heat. It seems to stop charging at 40°C (red fault LED visible). Definitely not the best way to treat your battery.
- It's unreliable. Sometimes it doesn't start charging, sometimes it stops prematurely.
- It beeps.
So if you just want to use it in your office to keep your phone charged with short and sporadic usage periodes in between it should work, if you and your colleagues can stand the beeping each time you place your phone on the charger.
If you plan to use it as overnight charger or when the battery is rather dry, prepare to face disappointment.
But I guess that's all you can expect from a charger half the price of the original one.
Now I've got a new qi charger air box gonna set it up tonite box looks okay and theyvre even sent UK plug adapter looks good fast tech didn't Send one as far as I could tell they really was not bothered with my problems with there charger if you don't like it post it ,if its faulty its at your expense . fingers crossed with the air box one
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