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TBolt discharges while using in car as navi/pandora

When using in car, playing music from Pandora, and using google navigation phone uses more power than what charger can provide. Ive got it on a fast charger, so its supplying more current than a standard one,....its not overheating because when it does the charge light blinks green then red. Screen is on all the time during navigation and set at 30%. Anyone have same experience? My Droid X would keep charging in same situation. This is going down in charge %. I was using das bamf rom, just switched to Perfect Storm 1.2, maybe will make a difference?
Also when plugged in to power its underclocked to 768mhz.

Would switching kernals make a difference?

What is the amp output of your car charger? I'm pretty sure you need at least 1amp to feed this device while using GPS and data. maybe 750ma will do it, but most recent phones, tablets, mifi devices, etc. require at least 1a.

Same thing is happening to me, I dont think the charger puts out enough juice. I've ordered a verizon 2amp dual USB adapter, hopefully it will put out enough to charge the device.

ilogik said:
Same thing is happening to me, I dont think the charger puts out enough juice. I've ordered a verizon 2amp dual USB adapter, hopefully it will put out enough to charge the device.
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This is the charger,..
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...&skuId=1114106&st=phone car charger&cp=1&lp=9
Not sure of its output.
Let me know how the 2 amp works for you.

I use the one sold at the Verizon Corp stores and use Pandora daily with no issues when charging.. Chrages up if it was under 100 and stays at 100 when it gets there..

wctaylor79 said:
I use the one sold at the Verizon Corp stores and use Pandora daily with no issues when charging.. Chrages up if it was under 100 and stays at 100 when it gets there..
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But I am using GPS with screen on the whole time, curious if you are too?

Turn your screen off. Navigation and Pandora will keep playing and your battery will slowly charge.
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I guess your right,...it must be more of a power hog than my X was using the same charger.

I've used Last.fm streaming with GPS navigation and screen on for multiple hours at a time without any battery drain. I don't know what car charger I'm using (an unofficial one that I bought for my Moto Droid), but I've been running the Das Bamf kernels for the most part. Even before I installed any of those kernels I never noticed any battery drain while plugged.

Same problem here.
I have a Belkin micro-charge 1A. Can't use navigation and Pandora without losing charge. I had the same problem with the iPhone before I bought the 1A charger, the 500mah wasn't powerful enough.
And turning off the screen when you're in navigation mode defies the purpose.
Do you turn off the screen of your Garmin or Tomtom while navigating? I didn't think so...
Let us know if a 2A charger does help.
Thanks for the feedback.

I called Rocketfish to try and find out just how much powa the charger I posted earlier put out. They didnt know, lol. They said usually its posted in their system, but that one wasnt.
But, after thinking about it, I had the screen on 100% brightness because of glare I was getting. Will tone it down and went to utkanos kernal and see how that rides out.

You need to get a charger with more power. I got one made for an ipad. It has 2 USB ports. Made by scouche or something like that. Had this issue with multiple chargers even on my droids.

this is completely normal for other phones too, like the nexus one. using NAvigation with the car dock pulls more power than the charger can supply, so the phone slowly drops while charging. not much can be done about it. i bought a 1.3 amp car charger. helps a bit.

[Q] Car charging insufficient with navigation

How is your device handling charging in the car with the (google) navigation and gps turned on? I think I could navigate for about 3 hours before the battery is drained completely. Is car charging really that weak? With my previous Samsung Galaxy Spica it would charge to a 100% while navigating....
I use the latest Cyanogen mod on my HTC Desire HD, and the 'official' car charger: http://www.htc.com/sea/product/accessory/car_charger_cc-c100.html

I think the one you want is the CC c200, not the one you link to. Don't know what the difference in output is. I use an official Nokia charger in the car and it charges the phone even with sat nav and music player on.
Dave
PS: it's a genuine Nokia, not a rip-off one. I use it as a) I'd already fitted it to the car behind the dash and b) the wife still had a Nokia until recently.

I bought a 150w car covertor to 3 pin from lidl for €19.99
I then use the plug that ya use in your house & it converts the power grand & charges like it would at home

I use a generic HTC micro USB charger I got free when I bought a leather case off Amazon.
It charges just fine while, driving & navigating. I did notice yesterday, with the recent "heatwave" gripping the UK, it stopped accepting a charge because of the heat. Once it cooled down a bit it started charging again. I'm pretty sure that is normal behaviour.

I just noticed it doesn't charge at all, even though the icon says it does. I just plugged it in with no navigation, and after a half hour drive, the battery level was still the same (so maybe it charges a tiny bit).
I'll try the CC c200, see if it helps!

I bought a 3rd party car charger from amazon and it charges the phone to 100% even when using google navigation.

coendeurloo said:
I just noticed it doesn't charge at all, even though the icon says it does. I just plugged it in with no navigation, and after a half hour drive, the battery level was still the same (so maybe it charges a tiny bit).
I'll try the CC c200, see if it helps!
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CC c200 works fine here I can recommend this device!

Mine works fine and didn't have that problem.
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coendeurloo said:
I just noticed it doesn't charge at all, even though the icon says it does. I just plugged it in with no navigation, and after a half hour drive, the battery level was still the same (so maybe it charges a tiny bit).
I'll try the CC c200, see if it helps!
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I had a similar problem, charging in the car worked fine. After a while started getting the charging icon but the phone wasn't charging. It turns out the cable was faulty, I bought a replacement HTC cable and all was well. Hope you got yours sorted.

Plus one stock htc cable is terrible. I got a motorola 5v/950ma dc charger from amazon for $3USD a while back. It works great. The problem with chargers that don't add voltage to your battery while being used is due to them being 5v/550ma like standard usb 2 spec or if it is a real pos it will be even less than that. The dhd can pull more juice than 500ma if one is really trying. So just get one that is as close to 5v/1a as possible. .95 works fine for me.
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question about over heating and charging...

Should this phone be able to handle playing music from a downloaded spotify play list and run navigation at the same time through blue tooth without over heating or draining? I had the phone in a windshield dock the air conditioning was running. I noticed the phone was hot to the touch and despite being plugged in to a charger the battery was draining. I'm on the latest clean rom not overclocked.
After taking it down out of the windshield and keeping it right by the AC vent it cooled down but the battery still drained.
ETA: more details and clarified the question

I use panodora and navigation and haven't had an issue. If it's really hot out I aim one of the AC vets at it and that keeps it nice and cool. One of my docks is right below a vent so it works out perfectly.
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If temp inside the car is comfortable to humans the phone should not get that hot though right?

gunnyman said:
If temp inside the car is comfortable to humans the phone should not get that hot though right?
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It gets warm for sure but not hot to the point of overheating. If it's in the sun though that could make it get too hot.
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Probably a dumb question but what's the voltage output on the dock? I had the same problem with my original Evo back in the day using a generic 600mA charging cable. Switched to a higher output and it stopped, although it's still charged SUPER slow while using navigation and music...
Never shut down or anything but maaan that puppy got hot.

Standard usb cable. Not a powered dock.

gunnyman said:
Standard usb cable. Not a powered dock.
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Ah okay gotcha. Does it plug into a usb port straight through the car then or is it a cigarette lighter? I know this is irrelevant to the heat issue, but that losing battery while plugged in drove me nuts. Turned out the usb cable/plug I had wasn't pulling enough power from the cigarette/accessory outlet in the car to keep a positive charge going under load.
The phone showed it was being charged through "usb" instead of "a/c"

It's a cig lighter usb adapter. Never had a problem like this with any other device but I've never had a phone with this large a screen either.

Does it say it's charging through a/c under Settings->Power? Or usb? I know usb charges much slower. Most wall or car chargers list the output on the plug somewhere.
From what I've seen, anything around one amp should trigger a/c charging mode. Never had a problem with charging no matter what I run then.

I didn't look but the orange light was on and I saw the charging animation. I'll look at it next time I plug it in.

Hope that's at least helpful for the not charging thing anyways. Sorry for the semi-OT.
Anyways, I know mine gets warm when charging and when using navigation and gps. Combine the two and it gets scary. This has happened with my Evo, Evo 3d, and HOX. Dunno.

It worried me enough to post about it.

I just looked at the charger and is says 1000 milliamps max.

So your question is whether the phone will get hot while charging the battery and using navigation? Uh... Yeah, it will do that.
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ECEXCURSION said:
So your question is whether the phone will get hot while charging the battery and using navigation? Uh... Yeah, it will do that.
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No my question was will running navigation and streaming at the same time cause it to overheat. One of the first things the phone do when it over heats is stop charging.

I had the same heating issue so I changed the charger - now, I use one that outputs 0.7 instead of 1.0. The default charger outputs 1.0.
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On my way home from Atlanta I stopped by an AT&T store and explained my problem. I purchased a 30 dollar usb car charger from them. On the way home I made sure it said charging on ac. I used Google navigation and spotify playing cached content and lost 20% in 2 hours. If this phone can't keep up with running 2 things at once I'm going to have to get something else.

would you believe a factory reset fixed it?
WEIRD

On my drive back today I resorted to turning off the screen when GPS was running. It was charging, but very slowly.
So a factory reset improved it for you? I might try that.
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gunnyman said:
would you believe a factory reset fixed it?
WEIRD
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Very strange man. So none of the heat issues anymore or anything? Glad you got it sorted out.

Fasttech QI charger A021527514 $35

Ordered 19/2 Arrived 26/2 - 7 days from China / Singapore.
Comes with supplied charger.
Only had it one day.
Takes about twice as long to charge as a normal 2amp pregnant plug.
Looks good

After 2 weeks use
The charger works quite reliably with a TPC case on. The only problem is efficiency.It still takes twice the time to charge, and sometimes excessively long. Last night the phone was at 26% charge, put on mat, went to bed, after 10 hours was only at 76%. A cable charges it from flat in about 2 hours.

where did you buy it from?

toge64 said:
where did you buy it from?
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Fast Tech
Waiting for mine now, ordered on March 2nd...

AW: Fasttech QI charger A021527514 $35
Bought mine from Fast Tech too:
Charging speed is satisfactory but the battery temperature worries me a little...
The back of the device says:
Input: 5V 2A
Output: 5V 1A
And even apart from that it's pretty obvious, that it takes more time to charge wirelessly.
I'll try keeping the temperature lower by adding some sort of distance piece between charger and phone, maybe even charger and table - the little 'feet' on the charger's back are tiny...

Mine also gets much warmer on it than it does on the orb charger from Google/LG. Seems to charge fine though, I just use this one to top the phone off at work because its not secure or reliable enough to trust charging overnight.

How much did you pay for the original orb charger?
Google Play Hardware isn't available in my country

Eiertschik said:
How much did you pay for the original orb charger?
Google Play Hardware isn't available in my country
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Like $70US shipped. Worth every penny to me. It secures the device (I have had no slipping with the 3 Orbs in my house) and charges reliably. To place the phone on it where it wouldn't charge would require it to be placed at a very unstable position that is unnatural.
IT sucks they aren't available but it probably has something to do with regulations in your country on these types of devices. Google probably needs some sort of certification first. Id offer to bootleg one to you but by the time its all said and done it would probably be $100US before it got to you.

I don't think it's because of regulations - no Google hardware has ever been available in Austria. It's just a small european country.
I could wait until it's available in Germany - they got all devices so far.
In the meantime I'll keep testing this Fast Tech charger.
The LEDs are enjoyably dim and it works pretty good.
But sometimes when the phone is at 100% already and it receives a message the charger beeps as if the phone has just been placed on it.
I'll keep investigating
Here's two pictures, display at maximum brightness.

ive got one but i cant connect and use it by any other input eg xbox 360 usb or a standard usb socket only uses adapter included ,I've sent 5 email saying this but they don't understand they keep saying check the charger supplied but that's not the problem,it will not work with any other usb powered input
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I also tried using it with another adaptor (5V 1A) - whenever I placed the phone on the charger the right LED that flashes blue when charging turned red and the phone emitted a notification sound.
Using a Samsung Galaxy Note 2's adaptor (5V 2A) works - but only if the phone is placed directly onto the charger - using the adaptor that was shipped with the carger it also works if there's a gap of ~2mm.
Here's another picture of the charger, this time in a well-lit office.

good news and bad news ,good news is they have admitted its doest work on my usb charger or any other one apart ftom a pc or original charger and bad news is there still advertising it as powered from any usb port anywhere
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Just found the iluv iPad charger from asda works at £9 saves risking the adapter shame I can't use it with my 360
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Could you provide a shop link or something? I can't find anything...
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There seem to be multiple discussions regarding this charger: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862

http://m.direct.asda.com/on/demandware.store/Sites-ASDA-Site/default/Product-Show?pid=000546056
i tried it works sometimes
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Well, after a few weeks my resumeé is: It works - but only kind of...
- It emits lots of heat. It seems to stop charging at 40°C (red fault LED visible). Definitely not the best way to treat your battery.
- It's unreliable. Sometimes it doesn't start charging, sometimes it stops prematurely.
- It beeps.
So if you just want to use it in your office to keep your phone charged with short and sporadic usage periodes in between it should work, if you and your colleagues can stand the beeping each time you place your phone on the charger.
If you plan to use it as overnight charger or when the battery is rather dry, prepare to face disappointment.
But I guess that's all you can expect from a charger half the price of the original one.

Now I've got a new qi charger air box gonna set it up tonite box looks okay and theyvre even sent UK plug adapter looks good fast tech didn't Send one as far as I could tell they really was not bothered with my problems with there charger if you don't like it post it ,if its faulty its at your expense . fingers crossed with the air box one
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Charging phone without a cigarette lighter

Anybody have any ideas on how I could charge my phone while at work without a cigarette lighter?
I just switched to a yard jockey job and there's no cigarette lighter ports or anywhere else I could plug my phone into while driving.
I work nights and it's really quiet on the radio so I was thinking about streaming music but I know it'll probably kill my battery.
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The only thing I could think of is that you buy one of those power banks. You can find some for pretty cheap. Just charge up the power bank at home and then take it with you. Mobile power.