Should this phone be able to handle playing music from a downloaded spotify play list and run navigation at the same time through blue tooth without over heating or draining? I had the phone in a windshield dock the air conditioning was running. I noticed the phone was hot to the touch and despite being plugged in to a charger the battery was draining. I'm on the latest clean rom not overclocked.
After taking it down out of the windshield and keeping it right by the AC vent it cooled down but the battery still drained.
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I use panodora and navigation and haven't had an issue. If it's really hot out I aim one of the AC vets at it and that keeps it nice and cool. One of my docks is right below a vent so it works out perfectly.
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If temp inside the car is comfortable to humans the phone should not get that hot though right?
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If temp inside the car is comfortable to humans the phone should not get that hot though right?
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It gets warm for sure but not hot to the point of overheating. If it's in the sun though that could make it get too hot.
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Probably a dumb question but what's the voltage output on the dock? I had the same problem with my original Evo back in the day using a generic 600mA charging cable. Switched to a higher output and it stopped, although it's still charged SUPER slow while using navigation and music...
Never shut down or anything but maaan that puppy got hot.
Standard usb cable. Not a powered dock.
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Standard usb cable. Not a powered dock.
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Ah okay gotcha. Does it plug into a usb port straight through the car then or is it a cigarette lighter? I know this is irrelevant to the heat issue, but that losing battery while plugged in drove me nuts. Turned out the usb cable/plug I had wasn't pulling enough power from the cigarette/accessory outlet in the car to keep a positive charge going under load.
The phone showed it was being charged through "usb" instead of "a/c"
It's a cig lighter usb adapter. Never had a problem like this with any other device but I've never had a phone with this large a screen either.
Does it say it's charging through a/c under Settings->Power? Or usb? I know usb charges much slower. Most wall or car chargers list the output on the plug somewhere.
From what I've seen, anything around one amp should trigger a/c charging mode. Never had a problem with charging no matter what I run then.
I didn't look but the orange light was on and I saw the charging animation. I'll look at it next time I plug it in.
Hope that's at least helpful for the not charging thing anyways. Sorry for the semi-OT.
Anyways, I know mine gets warm when charging and when using navigation and gps. Combine the two and it gets scary. This has happened with my Evo, Evo 3d, and HOX. Dunno.
It worried me enough to post about it.
I just looked at the charger and is says 1000 milliamps max.
So your question is whether the phone will get hot while charging the battery and using navigation? Uh... Yeah, it will do that.
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So your question is whether the phone will get hot while charging the battery and using navigation? Uh... Yeah, it will do that.
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No my question was will running navigation and streaming at the same time cause it to overheat. One of the first things the phone do when it over heats is stop charging.
I had the same heating issue so I changed the charger - now, I use one that outputs 0.7 instead of 1.0. The default charger outputs 1.0.
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On my way home from Atlanta I stopped by an AT&T store and explained my problem. I purchased a 30 dollar usb car charger from them. On the way home I made sure it said charging on ac. I used Google navigation and spotify playing cached content and lost 20% in 2 hours. If this phone can't keep up with running 2 things at once I'm going to have to get something else.
would you believe a factory reset fixed it?
WEIRD
On my drive back today I resorted to turning off the screen when GPS was running. It was charging, but very slowly.
So a factory reset improved it for you? I might try that.
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would you believe a factory reset fixed it?
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Very strange man. So none of the heat issues anymore or anything? Glad you got it sorted out.
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When using in car, playing music from Pandora, and using google navigation phone uses more power than what charger can provide. Ive got it on a fast charger, so its supplying more current than a standard one,....its not overheating because when it does the charge light blinks green then red. Screen is on all the time during navigation and set at 30%. Anyone have same experience? My Droid X would keep charging in same situation. This is going down in charge %. I was using das bamf rom, just switched to Perfect Storm 1.2, maybe will make a difference?
Also when plugged in to power its underclocked to 768mhz.
Would switching kernals make a difference?
What is the amp output of your car charger? I'm pretty sure you need at least 1amp to feed this device while using GPS and data. maybe 750ma will do it, but most recent phones, tablets, mifi devices, etc. require at least 1a.
Same thing is happening to me, I dont think the charger puts out enough juice. I've ordered a verizon 2amp dual USB adapter, hopefully it will put out enough to charge the device.
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Same thing is happening to me, I dont think the charger puts out enough juice. I've ordered a verizon 2amp dual USB adapter, hopefully it will put out enough to charge the device.
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This is the charger,..
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Rocketf...&skuId=1114106&st=phone car charger&cp=1&lp=9
Not sure of its output.
Let me know how the 2 amp works for you.
I use the one sold at the Verizon Corp stores and use Pandora daily with no issues when charging.. Chrages up if it was under 100 and stays at 100 when it gets there..
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I use the one sold at the Verizon Corp stores and use Pandora daily with no issues when charging.. Chrages up if it was under 100 and stays at 100 when it gets there..
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But I am using GPS with screen on the whole time, curious if you are too?
Turn your screen off. Navigation and Pandora will keep playing and your battery will slowly charge.
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I guess your right,...it must be more of a power hog than my X was using the same charger.
I've used Last.fm streaming with GPS navigation and screen on for multiple hours at a time without any battery drain. I don't know what car charger I'm using (an unofficial one that I bought for my Moto Droid), but I've been running the Das Bamf kernels for the most part. Even before I installed any of those kernels I never noticed any battery drain while plugged.
Same problem here.
I have a Belkin micro-charge 1A. Can't use navigation and Pandora without losing charge. I had the same problem with the iPhone before I bought the 1A charger, the 500mah wasn't powerful enough.
And turning off the screen when you're in navigation mode defies the purpose.
Do you turn off the screen of your Garmin or Tomtom while navigating? I didn't think so...
Let us know if a 2A charger does help.
Thanks for the feedback.
I called Rocketfish to try and find out just how much powa the charger I posted earlier put out. They didnt know, lol. They said usually its posted in their system, but that one wasnt.
But, after thinking about it, I had the screen on 100% brightness because of glare I was getting. Will tone it down and went to utkanos kernal and see how that rides out.
You need to get a charger with more power. I got one made for an ipad. It has 2 USB ports. Made by scouche or something like that. Had this issue with multiple chargers even on my droids.
this is completely normal for other phones too, like the nexus one. using NAvigation with the car dock pulls more power than the charger can supply, so the phone slowly drops while charging. not much can be done about it. i bought a 1.3 amp car charger. helps a bit.
Just got the battery warning so I plugged it in and to my surprise nothing happened ... checked the plug, restarted.. it just won't charge . When I turn screen off and plug it in the screen turns on but it doesn't charge .. is it busted?
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Are you plugged into a wall socket? If you are trying to charge through USB from a computer, it won't charge unless in sleep mode. Even then it will charge slowly.
Plugged into a wall socket atm.. iv tried from a computer I don't get a charging icon like I used 2
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My was doing the same,I have try different wall sockets in the house and one work ,so keep trying.
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One works? What how's that lol
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this will sounds bad but.... check the usb connection to the plug, as the way its made you can actully push the usb into the plug the wrong way around....
Tried all plugs don't work and yes its the right way round
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when I plug it into a comp it comes up with the USB stuff like Asus sync .. just not charge..
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Anyone else had this issue
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Just got it from Amazon and I have the same issue and still not able to figure out how to fix it. My Transformer is lying there without charging. Planning to return it to Amazon.
Right I just got mine working... try this pull the plug apart and put it back together now squueze them together as tight as you can and try that. Its working for me now ..
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It just doesn't work. How is the usb cable connected to your adapter? It just gets in both ways.
Can you send me a picture of how the three parts are fit into each other?
its only suppose to go in one way, just like conncting any USB devices. But tried that, dissemble the adaptor and put them together, it actually happened to me once too, did exactly that and everything fixed. Remember you gotta squeeze pretty hard to put the two pieces together.
Thanks guys, its working. But this is ridiculous, you have to do a dumbbell roll to fix battery plug
i cant get it too charge and i just got it in the mail. why the hell it even come with this wack ass plug in the first place. what a horrible first impression!
I suggest you dont even use it, its dangerous. Mine melted the first day I got it. I went to bestbuy and got a replacement that works great. It charges at 11 volts/1.5 amps
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Dynex&#...d=9462949&st=dynex ultimate charger&cp=1&lp=1
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Right I just got mine working... try this pull the plug apart and put it back together now squueze them together as tight as you can and try that. Its working for me now ..
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Yes, I had this problem with mine too.
It seems to be a common issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075475
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I suggest you dont even use it, its dangerous. Mine melted the first day I got it. I went to bestbuy and got a replacement that works great. It charges at 11 volts/1.5 amps
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This seriously works?
I just hope the voltage is right... I've tried different adapters for my phone and then my phone started acting weird (like it didn't take calls and would freeze at times). Replaced the adapter and it returned to normal again.
My TF adapter also gets really hot when charging.
Thanks for the recommendation.
I put some petroleum jelly on the metal prongs and smashed it on the counter a few times AFTER snapping it in.
Unfortunately I did them at the same time and didn't test in between so i don't know which if either or possibly both fixed it but mine is finally ****ing charging.
What a headache. I'm really bothered by ASUS for issuing such a faulty component.
I'm probably going to pick up that dynex tomorrow, because I just KNOW this will break again and mysteriously lodge itself into my drywall.
I just had the problem and discovered that the 5 forward pins on the power adapter are apparently quite easily deformed.
The charger is dual output, 5v and 15v.They use a USB3 connector, with the 15v quick charge output on those pins. I expect that they use the old USB 2 pins behind them to supply 5v for a slow charge, and PC data/charge connection.
Just prior to this, I had tried using an extension USB3 cable on it, so that I could use it while charging, and I suspect that was just enough to deform a couple of the 5 pins in the charger, and I got no charge at all from it, even after putting it back to normal. After an hour, the charger was still cold, and no indication of charging on either the tablet or with the table and keyboard attached.
With a good light and strong magnifier, I could see that a couple of the pins (of the 5 in the front) looked a bit recessed compared to the others, and carefully used the tip of a very fine needle to lift all of them just slightly. Having done that, the charger came to life when I plugged it back in, and the TF is indicating that it is charging.
I don't know how solid or permanent the fix will be, but it is working for me now.
Had my transformer charging for a br and noticed the wall charger is a lil too hot.....anyone else halves this?
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Same here n i mean hot
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Same here n i mean hot
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Hot as hell...
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Same here. I am afraid to leave it plugged in for too long. I am sure my fear is unfounded but it get hot enough to make me nervous.
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Same here. I am afraid to leave it plugged in for too long. I am sure my fear is unfounded but it get hot enough to make me nervous.
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When the tablet is 100% charged, it doesn't get as hot anymore. When nothing is plugged in, its cool as a gem. I wouldn't worry about it. Laptop chargers run about as hot as this.
Side effect of pushing current?
HEAT
Yeah, it will get a little warm, maybe even a bit too warm to hold in your hand for more than a few seconds. If you need to unplug it to stow it or take it along, unplug your TF from it and let it sit for a couple minutes.
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Had my transformer charging for a br and noticed the wall charger is a lil too hot.....anyone else halves this?
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Same, the charger feels dodgy to me.
Think we can use an apple charger like this for the Transformer cable?
edit (cant post link but its the apple usb charger that is larger and more rounded versus the tiny box like one for phones).
the apple one says output of 5.1V 2.1A
the asus one says output 5.15V 2.12A (I think, text is ludicrously small)
Loving the device by the way, but yeah the powerpack does not inspire confidence at all.
Someone mentioned in another thread that part of the reason for the charger getting so hot is because some people have been plugging it in the wrong way. The adapter should be plugged in with the "S" in "ASUS" lining up with the wider prong on the outlet
chargers get hot. Plain and simple.
My laptop charger feels like it'll burn straight through the carpet.
The things people complain about... lol
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husker91 said:
chargers get hot. Plain and simple.
My laptop charger feels like it'll burn straight through the carpet.
The things people complain about... lol
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True, but someone's TF charger has already melted see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13894929&postcount=15. No charger should get so hot that it melts.
I don't have this problem. The manual shows a diff kind of charger than I got in the box though. I just got my tf today. Manual shows a charger consisting of a power plug piece, another piece which plugs into power piece, and USB cable that plugs into that. I have just a power piece which has a USB port on it, plug in and go. Charging from first time charge on both dock and tablet for 5 hours or so right now, tablet is charged full just dock still charging, adapter is barely warm.
The charge light on my dock is still red though, thought it would have changed to at least orange by now. The tablet has been at 100 for say 2 hours, and removed from dock for about an hour.
Update, it is getting hot after being plugged in for around 6 hours, not so hot that i'm worried. What's more worrisome is that the docks charge light is still red after all that time.
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I don't have this problem. The manual shows a diff kind of charger than I got in the box though. I just got my tf today. Manual shows a charger consisting of a power plug piece, another piece which plugs into power piece, and USB cable that plugs into that. I have just a power piece which has a USB port on it, plug in and go. Charging from first time charge on both dock and tablet for 5 hours or so right now, tablet is charged full just dock still charging, adapter is barely warm.
The charge light on my dock is still red though, thought it would have changed to at least orange by now. The tablet has been at 100 for say 2 hours, and removed from dock for about an hour.
Update, it is getting hot after being plugged in for around 6 hours, not so hot that i'm worried. What's more worrisome is that the docks charge light is still red after all that time.
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The power plug is already attached to the PSU. Similar to how Apple laptop power bricks allow you to put on a different power plug.
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True, but someone's TF charger has already melted see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13894929&postcount=15. No charger should get so hot that it melts.
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True, and unless yours is melting, it's not too hot.
Anybody actually got a temperature reading?
gonna see if I can charge the thing at work and use our IR temperature reader to get a reading
Using an IR ThermoGun I get 58.1 degrees C or 137 degrees F
Thats after an hour currently charging Tab and dock together
Mine is warm when it is charging but not hot. As soon.as the charging completes it shut down and is ambient temp.
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Mine is warm when it is charging but not hot. As soon.as the charging completes it shut down and is ambient temp.
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I left mine plugged in overnight and it wasn't hot at all in the morning so +1 to this statement.
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I left mine plugged in overnight and it wasn't hot at all in the morning so +1 to this statement.
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Thats because it had finished charging, it only gets hot while charging
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Thats because it had finished charging, it only gets hot while charging
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That is indeed what I was agreeing to in my post yes.. I mentioned in a previous post as well that it got hot while actively charging, but not excessively so, and nowhere near the point that something would melt.
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Hi all, I'm not talking about the recovery triangle with the exclamation point, but when charging the S in my car, I noticed that the battery icon in the notification tray would charge for a few minutes, then stop charging and the battery icon would just go static at 75%.
So I turned off the phone, and was then presented with a black background and white battery icon, with a flashing exclamation point.
I unplugged, and plugged back in, and the battery started indicating it was charging via ascending white stripes, But then it stopped and changed to an exclamation point again.
The battery was only 50-75% full.
Could it have been overheating in my windscreen (I'm in LA)? Or is there some other issue with the charger. What does the ! mean?
Is your battery original? Maybe your charger is not supported. Not sure about this. Can you take a screenshot?
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I think that your car charger doesn't deliver enough power to charge the Nexus S battery. Some smartphones are draining more power then they are becoming from the charge unit when connected to the car.
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I think that your car charger doesn't deliver enough power to charge the Nexus S battery. Some smartphones are draining more power then they are becoming from the charge unit when connected to the car.
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This does not explain the error when charging with phone off.
I would exchange the phone under warranty if possible.
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Is your battery original? Maybe your charger is not supported. Not sure about this. Can you take a screenshot?
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You cannot take screenshots when powered off
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Then use a camera and take a photo?
I've seen this once it was from a bad flash I had to flash the rom again just to get rid of it what rom are you on?
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You cannot take screenshots when powered off
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I know that. Screenshot means that you take a picture shot of the screen.
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It's never a good idea to leave a phone, or any electronics, in a hot car during the summer. The combination of a hot car and heating up the battery while charging could be bringing the phone's temperature too high. It could be the charger isn't wired up for the standard micro usb charging. I've seen this with lg chargers and phones and data cables. It could be a bad flash.
If it can fully charge inside on an ac charger, then I might suspect the charger in the car. If it acts the same with a different car charger then it could be the phone. Try a 12vdc usb female charger with a data cable plugged into the phone. Try flashing the phone back completely to stock and do more process of elimination.
Thanks.
This is a brand new phone with original battery, stock ROM, not even rooted.
The charger worked fine always on its previous owner, a Nexus One. It is hard wired into my car so not easy to change.
I wonder if the Nexus S has overhead protection that stops charging?
A screenshot is quite a challenge ;-)
Edit: Here's the answer!: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google Mobile/thread?tid=09793bd3fcb30e61&hl=en
43 degrees Celsius is the trigger point where it starts/stops taking a charge because of heat.
Heat
Its a samsung battery protection system the same system that wont let u over charge the battery once the battery gets too hot it will go in to this protected mode wit the exclamation mark
had it on both my samsung vibrant and the nexus s 4g
My friend threw her phone on charge for the whole night and woke up this morning to find her battery level low. This isn't the first time it happened either. What could cause this?
P.S. the screenshot was taken right after the phone was pulled off the charger
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Try a different charger? Also, if the phone was charged by USB, use the wall charger instead. Some USB ports may cut power when the computer is asleep, etc. For instance, I usually connect my phone to my PC using the USB ports on my monitor (just because they are conveniently located). Those ports get shutdown when the computer goes to sleep, which I always forget.
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Try a different charger? Also, if the phone was charged by USB, use the wall charger instead. Some USB ports may cut power when the computer is asleep, etc. For instance, I usually connect my phone to my PC using the USB ports on my monitor (just because they are conveniently located). Those ports get shutdown when the computer goes to sleep, which I always forget.
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Well she plugs into the wall, never the computer. And the charger she uses is the charger that came w/ the phone. If its the charger that could possibly be the issue then I'll tell her to get it swapped out at an at&t store but I really don't think that's the issue honestly
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Chargers can definitely just crap out, even if new. MicroUSB chargers are pretty common, and I've used ones for other devices (like my Motorola Bluetooth headset) on my One X just fine. If you have another MicroUSB charger laying around, its worth checking (just to eliminate the charger as the cause) rather than having to run to the store.
Otherwise, its possible there is something wrong with the microUSB jack on the phone itself, or some other hardware or software problem with the phone. If the charger is not the problem, backup personal data and factory reset the phone. If the problem still occurs, I'd recommend getting a warranty replacement.
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Chargers can definitely just crap out, even if new. MicroUSB chargers are pretty common, and I've used ones for other devices (like my Motorola Bluetooth headset) on my One X just fine. If you have another MicroUSB charger laying around, its worth checking (just to eliminate the charger as the cause) rather than having to run to the store.
Otherwise, its possible there is something wrong with the microUSB jack on the phone itself, or some other hardware or software problem with the phone. If the charger is not the problem, backup personal data and factory reset the phone. If the problem still occurs, I'd recommend getting a warranty replacement.
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I appreciate it man, will do
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Can you confirm that there was a "lightning bolt" in the battery icon in the status bar? If it's charging, there should be a lightning bolt in it. Check when you plug in the charger and just before unplugging it. If the lighting bolt is missing then most likely there is no current going into the device to charge the battery. It could also be a bad battery if the charger is working fine.
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My friend threw her phone on charge for the whole night and woke up this morning to find her battery level low. This isn't the first time it happened either. What could cause this?
P.S. the screenshot was taken right after the phone was pulled off the charger
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Are you absolutely sure the power outlet was switched on? May seem like a silly question but I've done it before.
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Can you confirm that there was a "lightning bolt" in the battery icon in the status bar? If it's charging, there should be a lightning bolt in it. Check when you plug in the charger and just before unplugging it. If the lighting bolt is missing then most likely there is no current going into the device to charge the battery. It could also be a bad battery if the charger is working fine.
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Yes there was definitely a lightning bolt when it was on. And is it possible to wipe the battery stats even if the phones not rooted?
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Are you absolutely sure the power outlet was switched on? May seem like a silly question but I've done it before.
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The outlet isn't switch operated lol. It has a constant 120V
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