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[Q] Jellybean OTA for P3113?

Hello all,
I've seen lots of posts about the official jellybean OTA for P3113 and P3110, and even people saying that these roms work on their P3113 (while changing their product info...). Does anyone know if/when the official P3113 rom is coming out? I'm looking forward to flashing that with mobile Odin so I can keep root.
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Dralanmage said:
Hello all,
I've seen lots of posts about the official jellybean OTA for P3113 and P3110, and even people saying that these roms work on their P3113 (while changing their product info...). Does anyone know if/when the official P3113 rom is coming out? I'm looking forward to flashing that with mobile Odin so I can keep root.
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Official jelly bean for p3110 and p3100 is released for some regions and carrier.
So you can expect for everybody soon:thumbup:

What I find more frustrating than anything is that its been a week since the first official was released (in another region) and we (the P3113 owners) are not carrier reliant. Usually its the carrier that holds up the release of an OS, but since we don't have one, and the release from the 3110 works on our devices, why on earth is it taking so long?
It just doesn't make any sense to me.

I just installed the 3110 update that's around. The only deficiency I see is that the Model Number is became GT-P3110. I might not like some of the features but I think an official 4.1.1 for 3113 will be the same.
I am not concerned about warranty issues and that might be the major reason to wait. Also, IMHO, there's nothing worth not waiting for.

Why are you saying this? Is the JB so bad?

Do you have to be rooted to install the 3110 version of Jelly Bean on the 3113?
Im still on stock unrooted ICS..

No, as far as I know there is an Odin flashable, I do not have a link off hand though. If you are rooted, you can use Mobile Odin, and check the Everroot feature. It will keep your root in the next ROM (and if you want it can also re-install itself for you).

marius m said:
Why are you saying this? Is the JB so bad?
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I don't think it is bad. I also don't think it is that much better.

FlynnErik said:
No, as far as I know there is an Odin flashable, I do not have a link off hand though. If you are rooted, you can use Mobile Odin, and check the Everroot feature. It will keep your root in the next ROM (and if you want it can also re-install itself for you).
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I went ahead and flashed via mobile odin. It did the standard upgrade stuff but it was really unstable. My tablet would boot up with a weird visual glitch and then freeze up every couple of minutes. I had to do a factory reset and now everything works. It defaulted to french, but I was able to set it to english on the first screen. Now the only issue is that my device says it is a p3110, but I guess that's not a big deal.
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Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..

ldriod said:
Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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Not that I know of. However touchwiz takes more of a back seat role in this rom and I've even replaced the Samsung keyboard with the stock 4.2 keyboard... and it is awesome. I like this rom the best out of what I've used on this tablet.
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So I still get funny vertical multicolored lines on boot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I have since flashed the recent UK build on top of the french build that was released first. I don't know why, but it feels snappier.
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Dralanmage said:
So I still get funny vertical multicolored lines on boot, but it doesn't seem to affect anything. I have since flashed the recent UK build on top of the french build that was released first. I don't know why, but it feels snappier.
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I think I remember someone saying they did a complete data/cache wipe...then reinstalled.
This seemed to fix the multicolored screen on boot...

ldriod said:
I think I remember someone saying they did a complete data/cache wipe...then reinstalled.
This seemed to fix the multicolored screen on boot...
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Yah, I tried that. I still have the lines on boot. As long as my tablet is fine, I don't really care. I can always go back and flash stock.
I guess it should go away when p3113 official comes out. Right now I'm running p3110 on a p3113.
Thanks.
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ldriod said:
Is there a way to install this in the P3113 without touchwiz..and I dont mean just using another launcher on top of touchwiz?
I know cm10 is out..but I don't think they are using the OTA as a backbone...therefore not having pure project butter, 60fps, triple buffering, etc..
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I keep telling you , but you fail to understand so please do some research about Android OS and firmware . There's no such thing as a pure AOSP ROM and Samsung certainly doesn't make one. Even a Nexus 7 requires device specific libraries and drivers. And removing Touchwiz won''t speed up your tablet.
Every Android ROM, CM10, Samsung, Nexus, etc. uses the Google AOSP API source code as its base, but that does nothing without a device specific Kernel, drivers, libs, etc. Understand?
The so called "Project Butter," is a series of changes incorporated into the Android kernel and API that enhances GUI performance and it is in all JB ROMs.
Here's a little tutorial to help you out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...roject-butter-how-it-works-and-what-it-added/
These performance enhancements are in all JB ROMs , Samsung didn't leave it out or make it go away with touchwiz. However not all apps will take advantage of it yet. As apps are updated to JB compatibility they will perform better.

Any roms for this device?

This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please

any updates? i cant find any, but its still a bit tough to navigate this board for me

marcviado said:
This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please
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User's from the mini/ultra/maxx all use this forum since it's all basically the same phone... If you're on the Ultra there is one custom ROM available in the development section as they belong...the only ROM I've seen is the PAC ROM, provides much customization and lots of features... Our ultra and I believe the other two models do not have an unlocked boot loader so you can't flash a custom ROM or kernel without that...if you have the Dev version of the maxx then you can go ahead and unlock your boot loader and enjoy the Rom(s)
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ahjee said:
User's from the mini/ultra/maxx all use this forum since it's all basically the same phone... If you're on the Ultra there is one custom ROM available in the development section as they belong...the only ROM I've seen is the PAC ROM, provides much customization and lots of features... Our ultra and I believe the other two models do not have an unlocked boot loader so you can't flash a custom ROM or kernel without that...if you have the Dev version of the maxx then you can go ahead and unlock your boot loader and enjoy the Rom(s)
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i have safestrap installed, so i could flash ROM's, but im not interested in the very initial stages of ROM's...but am i right where i could flash it?
im in the middle of the OTA update right now anyways..so bye root for now...

Well the ota can be rooted and I have safe strap as well but without an unlocked boot loader you cannot flash Roms or kernel's... Having safestrap does not mean you can flash away, the boot loader is what matter's buddy. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but if you want root after the ota check out the development section... Jcase already has taken care of that
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ahjee said:
Well the ota can be rooted and I have safe strap as well but without an unlocked boot loader you cannot flash Roms or kernel's... Having safestrap does not mean you can flash away, the boot loader is what matter's buddy. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...but if you want root after the ota check out the development section... Jcase already has taken care of that
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im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?

tortoracer said:
im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?
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You're right, you can flash roms with a locked bootloader. However you cannot flash a kernel (boot image) with a locked bootloader. So far though, no stock based roms that I know of for this phone. I don't know if that's because safestrap is still in beta or what.

hawkswind1 said:
You're right, you can flash roms with a locked bootloader. However you cannot flash a kernel (boot image) with a locked bootloader. So far though, no stock based roms that I know of for this phone. I don't know if that's because safestrap is still in beta or what.
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whats a non "stock based" ROM? i have only had phones with a locked bootloader, so im a bit confused there. what would be different? would it be seen, or would that only be how the phone does stuff internally?

marcviado said:
This is an awesome device but why aren't there any roms out for this device I see one but that it..would like to see some development progress for this device please
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There aren't custom ROMs because there isn't a need for one, IMO.
This is the cleanest, most stable, coolest OS I've ever experienced anywhere.
I can't imagine a custom ROM out there that I would prefer.

redddog said:
There aren't custom ROMs because there isn't a need for one, IMO.
This is the cleanest, most stable, coolest OS I've ever experienced anywhere.
I can't imagine a custom ROM out there that I would prefer.
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as with the ROM i had with my droid 4, the ROM isnt definitely something completely different from the factory. it could be de-bloated, include apps that work well with the device, disable/remove apps that nobody uses. tidy up the framework of the stock ROM.
i would love a pre-cleaned ROM, wifi tether, or really just a deodexed ROM at this point.

tortoracer said:
im new to android flashing, and bootloaders and all of that, but im only going off of my past experiences with my droid 4.
what i thought: a locked bootloader meant no custom kernels. as long as i have a custom recovery such as safestrap, i could flash ROM's, which is why there are ROM slots. i had eclipse ROM on my droid 4 even though that had a locked bootloader.
where am i getting confused? did the rooting process take care of the bootloader? or did ss bypass that?
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The droid 4 used a method called kexec which highjacked the boot process and allowed a custom bootloader to run instead of the phones locked bootloader. Hashcode has stated that kexec may never work for the new moto line but there's always hoping. This is why I just ordered the developers edition.
Sent from my Droid Razr Maxx on JB 4.3 kexec

nukeruss said:
The droid 4 used a method called kexec which highjacked the boot process and allowed a custom bootloader to run instead of the phones locked bootloader. Hashcode has stated that kexec may never work for the new moto line but there's always hoping. This is why I just ordered the developers edition.
Sent from my Droid Razr Maxx on JB 4.3 kexec
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i thought without an unlocked bootloader you could not install custom roms, i knew you couldn't with kernels but i thought no roms either... i am mistaken i assume by the response of the others, or can you not do either? Either way, if you can't use a custom kernel then most custom roms will not work anyhow

ahjee said:
i thought without an unlocked bootloader you could not install custom roms, i knew you couldn't with kernels but i thought no roms either... i am mistaken i assume by the response of the others, or can you not do either? Either way, if you can't use a custom kernel then most custom roms will not work anyhow
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Incorrect. The Droid X had a locked bootloader, but it had a fairly large dev community. No custom kernels, but there was a good amount of ROM's available.

sfreemanoh said:
Incorrect. The Droid X had a locked bootloader, but it had a fairly large dev community. No custom kernels, but there was a good amount of ROM's available.
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That would mean roms either came with no kernel baked in or they used to stock kernel then. I never had a phone without the boot loader being unlockable that being said how the devs and community spoke it came off as without it being that way no ROM was flashable but it was likely due to that most Roms come with a kernel baked in which is usually not stock. Anyway, thanks for correcting and informing me. Having a locked boot loader is new to me.
So I assume if I can manage to remove the kernel from the ROM zip I could flash the PAC ROM in our development section?
Sent from Ahjee's phone which is likely better than your lesser phone that doesn't have as many processors and can't run games as smoothly as this beast of a phone does stock

ahjee said:
That would mean roms either came with no kernel baked in or they used to stock kernel then. I never had a phone without the boot loader being unlockable that being said how the devs and community spoke it came off as without it being that way no ROM was flashable but it was likely due to that most Roms come with a kernel baked in which is usually not stock. Anyway, thanks for correcting and informing me. Having a locked boot loader is new to me.
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I believe (at least on the DX) flashing just didn't touch the kernels at all, so we were always running the stock kernel. But I'm not a dev, so don't quote me.

On the droid x and RAZR (prior to kexec) all ROMs were built using the stock kernel. The doid x had an official cm build using the stock kernel. Using the stock kernel for custom ROMs like cm makes it much more difficult to get everything going smooth because the kernel has been optimized to work with the stock ROM which may be a couple versions of android behind.
Sent from my Droid Razr Maxx on JB 4.3 kexec
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Look at this post from the nook color thread. Unlocked boot loader with awesome devas equals a device that never dies. The nook color is currently on 4.3 and will probably get 4.4 before long.
That's right. Big ups to Cicadaman for that first Froyo port, "Nookie Froyo", which was invaluable for helping get that first CM7 (gingerbread) build booting (like months and months before GB showed up officially in BN's bastardized android, I might add!) Dalingrin joined in soon after and we and a few others got it polished together.... God, this was what, late 2010 or early 2011. It's hard to believe Android didn't even have even basic tablet support for soft buttons... requiring Tablet Tweaks... Oh, how time flies... :silly: ...and the nook color is still kickin'...
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nukeruss said:
On the droid x and RAZR (prior to kexec) all ROMs were built using the stock kernel. The doid x had an official cm build using the stock kernel. Using the stock kernel for custom ROMs like cm makes it much more difficult to get everything going smooth because the kernel has been optimized to work with the stock ROM which may be a couple versions of android behind.
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Look at this post from the nook color thread. Unlocked boot loader with awesome devas equals a device that never dies. The nook color is currently on 4.3 and will probably get 4.4 before long.
That's right. Big ups to Cicadaman for that first Froyo port, "Nookie Froyo", which was invaluable for helping get that first CM7 (gingerbread) build booting (like months and months before GB showed up officially in BN's bastardized android, I might add!) Dalingrin joined in soon after and we and a few others got it polished together.... God, this was what, late 2010 or early 2011. It's hard to believe Android didn't even have even basic tablet support for soft buttons... requiring Tablet Tweaks... Oh, how time flies... :silly: ...and the nook color is still kickin'...
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sorry if it is a dumb question, but what exactly is a kernel? a ROM is like the operating system i assume, but..?

tortoracer said:
sorry if it is a dumb question, but what exactly is a kernel? a ROM is like the operating system i assume, but..?
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not a stupid question dude, there's a lot going on with these phones and it takes to get educated and even more to be properly educated haha...things i think i know, i don't as you can tell lolol but the kernel is the engine so to speak, it's what makes the ROM or OS run how it does...the kernel has a bigger affect on battery life than the rom itself, well in my opinion but it's really a combination of the two together.
The kernel is what controls the CPU and GPU frequencies and whatnot

Ultra/Maxx/Mini
You guys say they're basically the same phone so everyone uses one forum, so can we install ROMs made for the other Droid devices?
My guess is probably not, so WHY are they not separated- silliest thing they could have done- I had to track this forum down over a week after I thought XDA just didn't support the Droid Maxx, and still don't understand what's going on.
I also have the same question as the OP: How can there not be a full root process/massive ROM list already for the Maxx with such a big community and such a popular phone line?
We're still waiting on a proper root
That said, anyone have any fun alternatives until then? Favorite/not well-known launchers or other themes?
PS Anyone have an Aviate Launcher invite left?
Thanks!

Vonsk said:
You guys say they're basically the same phone so everyone uses one forum, so can we install ROMs made for the other Droid devices?
My guess is probably not, so WHY are they not separated- silliest thing they could have done- I had to track this forum down over a week after I thought XDA just didn't support the Droid Maxx, and still don't understand what's going on.
I also have the same question as the OP: How can there not be a full root process/massive ROM list already for the Maxx with such a big community and such a popular phone line?
We're still waiting on a proper root
That said, anyone have any fun alternatives until then? Favorite/not well-known launchers or other themes?
PS Anyone have an Aviate Launcher invite left?
Thanks!
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Off the top of my head, the kernel is still signed by moto and cannot be modified.
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CM 10 for HD using Safestrap 3.60

Hey guys, I'm fairly new to smartphones. I recently bought a RAZR HD xt926 knowing it was a really good phone but I hadn't dug deep enough to realize the bootloader is not unlockable anymore until after I bought one :crying: . So I've been scrounging around for my options. So far I've gotten Safestrap 3.60 and rooted my phone. I've noticed some mention of flashing CM 10 or 10.1 using SS but every zip I find either fails to flash or wont boot afterwards.
Anyone know where a good and working CM10 zip that would work and/or the best SS compatible rom?
System version: 9.18.79
Android 4.1.2
build number: 9.8.1Q-79

You can't use CM with Safestrap because it tries to flash a different kernel. You need to use ROMs that are stock-based like RageHD, Nexesque, etc.
What are you looking for exactly? Something very close to stock or something with more custom stuff added?

killrhythm09 said:
You can't use CM with Safestrap because it tries to flash a different kernel. You need to use ROMs that are stock-based like RageHD, Nexesque, etc.
What are you looking for exactly? Something very close to stock or something with more custom stuff added?
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Well I was basing that off of several threads I found like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34592575
Says it is CM 10 that works on Safestrap3 but the file isn't available any more on the download site.
I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for. I've looked briefly at Aviator, RageHD, Blurry, Widow, Paragon Maxximus, and a couple others I found. Only found a small handful so far though.
Currently I'm using the stock but added AntTek Quick Toggle, Notification Toggle, Google Keyboard (very similar to CM's minus the blue), and Reboot Menu Widget *ROOT* (as the stock doesn't have Reboot in the power menu). Pretty much just adding stuff to give it more of the features I really enjoyed on my previous phone which has CM10.1.3 on it

Hmm, maybe that version of CM will work then. I never ended up using Safestrap myself so I couldn't say for sure.
Anyway, the link doesn't work right now because goo.im is in the middle of upgrading their servers.

I see. Hopefully I'll be able to get it once they finish and it work out. :good: guess that's the best I can do with this phone. Stock rom doesn't look half bad when using Next launcher 3D combined with the rest of the stuff I mentioned.

Yeah, I agree. Stock isn't bad at all with root. You get great battery life and you can remove all the bloatware anyway.

Yeah, I've yet to remove any bloatware. Probably only adding to the list in a way. The battery life was the main reason I bought this phone as my SII Skyrocket has a terrible battery life. I'd probably have gotten another phone or tried to find a developer or unlocked version if I'd known beforehand about the update, but such is my luck :silly:

Jaysp656 said:
Well I was basing that off of several threads I found like this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34592575
Says it is CM 10 that works on Safestrap3 but the file isn't available any more on the download site.
I'm not sure exactly what I'm looking for. I've looked briefly at Aviator, RageHD, Blurry, Widow, Paragon Maxximus, and a couple others I found. Only found a small handful so far though.
Currently I'm using the stock but added AntTek Quick Toggle, Notification Toggle, Google Keyboard (very similar to CM's minus the blue), and Reboot Menu Widget *ROOT* (as the stock doesn't have Reboot in the power menu). Pretty much just adding stuff to give it more of the features I really enjoyed on my previous phone which has CM10.1.3 on it
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If I was locked, I would be using nexesque personally. Great rom.
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koftheworld said:
If I was locked, I would be using nexesque personally. Great rom.
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You can flash Nexesque on an unlocked phone. That's what I have and encounter no issues, I believe when Adam released it it was specifically for an unlocked phone and safestrap as an alternative
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Flashing any custom kernel = Crazy phone

Hi. It's my first post here, so i couldn't put this post in a specific thread related to Kernels i have flashed.
I have S-Off, SuperCID and CM11 on my One S atm. I updated today from Maximus ROM ( and downgraded HBoot to 2.15 via RUU). I noticed that my phone doesnt seem compatible to custom kernels, as each time i flash a custom kernel my phone goes into bootloops or remains stuck at boot screen. When it manages to turn on, i get a lot of notifications that some apps or services have closed, making my phone unusable.
When i was on Maximus, solution was reverting to stock kernel.
What am i doing wrong or why is it only happening to me?

AFAIK there isn't any custom kernel compatible with Cm11 atm. Because with last 2 updates Cm11 had a lot of changes and custom kernels are not compatible with it. You should use stock cm kernel for now. I guess custom kernels will be updated in a few days
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I don't think it's necessarily related to CM11 as i had this problem while running Maximus HD as well.

Bogdan9183 said:
I don't think it's necessarily related to CM11 as i had this problem while running Maximus HD as well.
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You should be able to install elementalx on maximus.
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So even after following droyd instructions regarding a complete wipe, this is not solved. Apparently there is a problem with my phone.
If anyone knows deeper stuff regarding this or may be able to tell me what to try, I would be grateful.
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Did you try bubba qv version?
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[Q] Not sure which custom ROM to go with

Hi all,
I've been digging around this subforum and the unbranded M8 forum, I'm trying to figure out which custom ROM I want to go with but can't decide- they all have really neat features which I like.
I have an HTC One M8 Verizon, running an official/dev bootloader 1.55.605.2, unlocked bootloader, S-OFF and rooted, stock Android 4.4.2 Sense 6.0
I'm considering InsertCoin, but am not sure if it's compatible with my current setup, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727300
Also considering VenomOne, but again, not sure about the bootloader version, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705292
Any ideas or advice? Switching my bootloader is not something I really want to do at the moment, but I could if needed. The reason why I'd rather not switch it is because I have a bootloader which is signed by HTC & has full adb root/su

Since you accepted the OTA before you rooted and are on the latest build number you can run both of those fine.
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Either will work fine with your setup. I keep trying different AOSP roms but keep coming back to Viper. Still too many bugs yet for me to use as a daily driver.

Mike02z said:
Either will work fine with your setup. I keep trying different AOSP roms but keep coming back to Viper. Still too many bugs yet for me to use as a daily driver.
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I'm aching for aosp. Like you said too many bugs. Clean ROM is treating me well though.
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wtoj34 said:
Since you accepted the OTA before you rooted and are on the latest build number you can run both of those fine.
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Awesome. thanks!
Mike02z said:
Either will work fine with your setup. I keep trying different AOSP roms but keep coming back to Viper. Still too many bugs yet for me to use as a daily driver.
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I'm aching for aosp. Like you said too many bugs. Clean ROM is treating me well though.
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Great to hear- thanks for the input! I'll most likely being trying ViperOne out then, are there any huge differences between the two?

jwshields said:
Awesome. thanks!
Great to hear- thanks for the input! I'll most likely being trying ViperOne out then, are there any huge differences between the two?
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Viper is known to be the king of customization. Everything can be changed and I mean everything. I've heard very nice things about insert coin too however. Its really up to you! Make a backup, and give em both a shot! You may also want to consider nV ROM I've heard nice things about that too. I myself am content on CleanROM as I said until aosp is more straightened out.
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Awesome! Thank you, I'll look into all of these-
Quick question before I flash my stuff, is it possible to install ViperOne without changing my boot image? I'm looking inside the viper zip and there's a boot image there.

Try the newest GPE. I have been running it for over a day and that is the longest I have been off Viper. A few cosmetic issues but been very solid and is nice and light. About as close to the pure Google experience as you can get.
Oh yea, and it's the first 4.4.3 rom out for the M8 I believe.

Agree gpe ROM is great
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I was on cleanrom and skyfall for a while using sensetoolbox to xustomize and was happy for a while but after I tried viper out I love it, so much to change and play with its great (I do love customization though) and running with faux kernel it has been superb

jwshields said:
Hi all,
I've been digging around this subforum and the unbranded M8 forum, I'm trying to figure out which custom ROM I want to go with but can't decide- they all have really neat features which I like.
I have an HTC One M8 Verizon, running an official/dev bootloader 1.55.605.2, unlocked bootloader, S-OFF and rooted, stock Android 4.4.2 Sense 6.0
I'm considering InsertCoin, but am not sure if it's compatible with my current setup, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727300
Also considering VenomOne, but again, not sure about the bootloader version, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2705292
Any ideas or advice? Switching my bootloader is not something I really want to do at the moment, but I could if needed. The reason why I'd rather not switch it is because I have a bootloader which is signed by HTC & has full adb root/su
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I like the Skyfall but always come back to Viper for the exchange mod. If they would add that to Skyfall I would stay there.

Why not try 'em all?
When you install a custom ROM and configure it to suit you with all your apps installed backup your apps, etc. and then reboot to recovery, backup your ROM and wipe and install the next ROM.
It'll take you a few days but you'll find the one you like and be able to switch anytime by rebooting into recovery and restoring the backup of the ROM you want.
FWIW, I was running CyanogenMod last night but had a problem connecting to the free WiFi in the restaurant so I rebooted to recovery, did a backup of CM, deleted old backup of CM and restored my Clean Rom back up to see if it would connect, it did and now I'm on Clean until CM gets a few more updates to fix WiFi, it took only a few minutes to switch.