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[Q] T-Mobile plan sign-up problems

When I decided on getting a Nexus 5 and Moto G for my mom and I, I was planning on Solavei. Unfortunately they decided to jack up their prices, so I am looking at T Mobile now.
A few problems I am running into (with both phones)
1. Both phones are so new, so it is not an option to choose when signing up on their prepaid site. Do I just choose a different phone and pop the SIM in anyways? If so, which phone.. the Nexus 4?
2. There appears to be two options. One is to sign up on T mobile with two lines. I would like to choose $70 and $30 plans for me and my mom, totaling $100 for the N5 and Moto G. When I look to sign up this way, it wants to charge me for a SIM "starter kit". If I choose to use their prepaid site, (prepaid-phones.tmobile....), the SIM is free but there appears to be no family plan option, so there is no discount on the second line. Is there a way to get the best of both worlds? AKA, Can I get a free SIM and a discounted second line?
I realize this is not the Moto G forum but information on both is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

With prepaid your going to pay each line as if it's sperate. Prepaid sim won't work with postpaid. You might be able to get your started kit free if you went to a kiosk or store and activated them there on the family plan.
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I think you are off getting going postpaid. What features does your mom use? Calls? Data?
For $100 you can get Unlimited everything for you and UNL Calls, Text, and 500MB of data for your mom.
If you go to a T-Mobile store with your devices they usually waive the Sim fees. Also easier to pay one bill than paying your line and then your Mom's prepaid.

Razorblood said:
I think you are off getting going postpaid. What features does your mom use? Calls? Data?
For $100 you can get Unlimited everything for you and UNL Calls, Text, and 500MB of data for your mom.
If you go to a T-Mobile store with your devices they usually waive the Sim fees. Also easier to pay one bill than paying your line and then your Mom's prepaid.
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I suppose I got the two mixed up. The SIMs are not interchangeable.. where i could purchase this one for free http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/...ro-SIM-Card-Activation-Kit-No-Annual-Contract and then bring it into the store and have them use it for postpaid? I was hoping to avoid the sim card fee.
I am looking to do one line unlimited everything, and one with the 500 MB data for my mom. Thanks for the replies!

I just ended up finding this article.... saying they DO work. http://www.pocketables.com/2013/11/...-work-postpaid-plans-tablets-theyre-free.html
Anyone have any experience with this? Or any downside to getting this over the postpaid sim...?

[Q] Which MVNO is the least expensive

I'm a verizon user, but my father wants to replace his old Nokia feature phone with something newer. He's a tracfone user, and as I understand it their BYOD plans are CDMA only. You can get a VZW Moto G today, but I believe they won't unlock the device for use on other networks for 6 months.
So, I can get a GSM version, but am unfamiliar with GSM MVNO's. Which MVNO using AT&T has the least expensive (potential) plan. I don't think he's ever sent a text, and I don't see him using data on the device much, but I think he would appreciate the camera and google maps. An unlimited plan is pure overkill for him. He's the definition of the minimal user.

Probably Straight Talk Sims.
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Coop9 said:
I'm a verizon user, but my father wants to replace his old Nokia feature phone with something newer. He's a tracfone user, and as I understand it their BYOD plans are CDMA only. You can get a VZW Moto G today, but I believe they won't unlock the device for use on other networks for 6 months.
So, I can get a GSM version, but am unfamiliar with GSM MVNO's. Which MVNO using AT&T has the least expensive (potential) plan. I don't think he's ever sent a text, and I don't see him using data on the device much, but I think he would appreciate the camera and google maps. An unlimited plan is pure overkill for him. He's the definition of the minimal user.
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Actually I've been looking into this recently myself. I'm currently with Tracfone but I'm thinking about upgrading my phone (Moto G is one strong consideration).
Straight Talk is one option but it really depends on needs. If he's a light user, PayAsYouGo may be the best. If he's consumes quite a bit of minutes, prepaid may be the path. I would look at H2o or Airvoice also. With either you could possibly get a light user down around what TF cost (depending on the plan used there). They both also offer monthly prepaids less expensive than ST. However, I think ST is 4G and the two I mentioned may be only 3G if that matters. Both H2o and AV use AT&T GSM so that would be a consideration. Of course, Verizon and AT&T are very large providers but you would have to see what works in his area.
And yes, you are correct. The new CDMA Moto G will not work on TF. And I seen some stated that will be that way for at least one year.

wrj54 said:
Actually I've been looking into this recently myself. I'm currently with Tracfone but I'm thinking about upgrading my phone (Moto G is one strong consideration).
Straight Talk is one option but it really depends on needs. If he's a light user, PayAsYouGo may be the best. If he's consumes quite a bit of minutes, prepaid may be the path. I would look at H2o or Airvoice also. With either you could possibly get a light user down around what TF cost (depending on the plan used there). They both also offer monthly prepaids less expensive than ST. However, I think ST is 4G and the two I mentioned may be only 3G if that matters. Both H2o and AV use AT&T GSM so that would be a consideration. Of course, Verizon and AT&T are very large providers but you would have to see what works in his area.
And yes, you are correct. The new CDMA Moto G will not work on TF. And I seen some stated that will be that way for at least one year.
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Why won't it work on Tracfone's BYOP plan? All you should have to do is call them and let them transfer everything. Jus t because it's locked to Verizon doesn't mean you can't flash it to someone else I think... TF operates on Verizon as well.

wws12 said:
Why won't it work on Tracfone's BYOP plan? All you should have to do is call them and let them transfer everything. Jus t because it's locked to Verizon doesn't mean you can't flash it to someone else I think... TF operates on Verizon as well.
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Verizon controls what phones are allowed on their network; not TF. Page Plus wireless (which is also a Verizon MVNO provider) customers have the same issue. They want the Moto G but it's the network owner who sets the rules.
You'll find it easier to use higher end phones on MVNOs who employee T-Mobile or AT&T (GSM). That's why I suggested the ones I did. And by no means is the list limited to Airvoice, H2o, Straight Talk. There are more choices. Just not Verizon.

Coop9 said:
I'm a verizon user, but my father wants to replace his old Nokia feature phone with something newer. He's a tracfone user, and as I understand it their BYOD plans are CDMA only. You can get a VZW Moto G today, but I believe they won't unlock the device for use on other networks for 6 months.
So, I can get a GSM version, but am unfamiliar with GSM MVNO's. Which MVNO using AT&T has the least expensive (potential) plan. I don't think he's ever sent a text, and I don't see him using data on the device much, but I think he would appreciate the camera and google maps. An unlimited plan is pure overkill for him. He's the definition of the minimal user.
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What about Ting?
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yguns76 said:
What about Ting?
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Can I get a Moto G that will work with Ting? I know the Boost mobile version is on the Sprint bands, but it isn't listed on Ting's whitelist.

AFAIK Straight Talk has pretty much stopped selling AT&T sims (only T-Mo ones now) from what I've read recently, the same with Net10 and other AT&T-based MVNOs because it seems like AT&T is really pushing for its Gophone pre-paid as an MVNO competitor (and withdrawing its support for MVNOs it was selling access to gradually). They've revamped their prices recently to be more competitive, and that's the reason I've switched from my old provider (Virgin) --- I'm currently on the $60 unlim txt/voice/2GB data plan (cheaper when buying refills through resellers).
The cheapest Gophone plan for smartphones is $25 / mo for 250 mins unlim domestic text & MMS (and a set of countries), no data included.
If you're not averse to T-Mobile, they have a fantastic low-minutes high data plan ($30 a month for 100 mins, unlimited text & data (throttled at 5GB) but I'm unsure if you can use a Moto G you've not purchased from them with the plan.

Verizon moto g on non pre paid plan

ok i have a lg g2 and cracked the screen for the second time and ive had it with this phone each time had a case on it. now i see Verizon sell the moto G prepaid for $100, and i wanted to know if i could buy that and use it my plan and not the prepaid plan?

Call Verizon support , probably you`ll be able to switch the plan.

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ok i have a lg g2 and cracked the screen for the second time and ive had it with this phone each time had a case on it. now i see Verizon sell the moto G prepaid for $100, and i wanted to know if i could buy that and use it my plan and not the prepaid plan?
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No.. at least not right away.
My understanding is that you can only switch after you've been on pre-paid for at least 6 months.
And trust me, if you are coming from a LG G2, you'll find the Moto G kinda slow, with smaller low-res screen and above all.. NO 4G !

[Q] Moto G Boost Mobile or Verizon

Hi, few quick questions.
Question #1
Which prepaid Moto G should I get? Boost Mobile one or Verizon one? (I can't go with the $199 unlocked one. On a budget).
Question #2
Which plans do you think is better? I don't download/stream/talk/text much, btw.
Boost Mobile $55 Plan
Unlimited talk, text and data $55/month
boostmobile.com/shop/phones/moto-g/#/page_plans
Verizon $45 ALLSET Plan
Anytime Minutes* Unlimited
Mobile to Mobile Calling* Unlimited
Text Messaging* Unlimited
Data* 500MB
verizonwireless.com/prepaid/smartphone-plans
I want the Boost Mobile one, because I heard/read that it is unlockable bootloader and rootable and I want custom roms, kernels, mods (I might just get Boost Mobile one because of this and do USB-OTG microSD/flash drive for more storage space), but I think the Verizon plan is better and cheaper? but bootloader can't be unlocked. I'd never own a smartphone before, so any help/advice would be nice.

Page plus is an MVNO that works with Verizon signal. Boost phones can be hacked to work, walkthrough on another thread.
Boost phones can be unlocked, but Verizon can't.
Page plus plans are $30 for 1200 minutes, 3000 texts, and 500mb, $40 for unlimited talk, text, and 1gb.
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Check Please - *Holds up Verizon Bill*

Sad to say but I'm tossing my hands in the air with the S6 and Verizon. I can't believe Verizon killed this phone so badly with development while asking such a premium price for their service. Even with a 15% enterprise discount I'm still paying $150+ for 2 phones and 3GB of shared data.
Last night I gave in and ordered a Nexus 6P for myself and a Nexus 5X for the wife and we'll be buying out our phones from Verizon, porting our numbers over to Cricket, and selling the S6's on Swappa. $70 flat per month for 2.5GB per line on Cricket beats the pants of Verizon. Now I know the LTE is capped at 8MB/s and although using ATT network its not quite as good as Verizon, but I'm in WiFi range all day at work and we don't travel across the country much to worry about backwoods coverage.
Anyone else moving to Cricket? Anyone make the move to a Nexus phone, how do you like it?

Good luck getting service anywhere... You may be saving a ton of money, but Cricket sucks terribly.

All traffic goes through a proxy on Cricket and has lower priority than their postpaid customers.

You get what you pay for. Since I use my phone daily, I'd rather err on the side of paying extra to get dependable service. VZW service is second to none. The nexus line works with Version as well.

Yes, I agree with all of you. That said, an open phone is an open phone. I can go to Page Wireless if I want to go back to the Verizon network, I could go Boost wireless, a handful of others as well. I was just tired of being locked into Verizon with their locked down phones and high prices.
Also, I got the Nexus 6P yesterday and it's quite good. I went to Cricket and got it activated after updating and rooting/romming the hell out of it and so far so good. Time will tell, I'm just happy I can pull the sim card and toss it and change to another provider at any time with no ill effects. This is the future!

Budwise said:
Yes, I agree with all of you. That said, an open phone is an open phone. I can go to Page Wireless if I want to go back to the Verizon network, I could go Boost wireless, a handful of others as well. I was just tired of being locked into Verizon with their locked down phones and high prices.
Also, I got the Nexus 6P yesterday and it's quite good. I went to Cricket and got it activated after updating and rooting/romming the hell out of it and so far so good. Time will tell, I'm just happy I can pull the sim card and toss it and change to another provider at any time with no ill effects. This is the future!
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Please let me know how you like the size and build compared to the s6, im considering doing the same. Also if you dont use data too kuch i recommend considering lycamobile. 23 dollar plan for unlimited talk and text and unlimited 3g data though only 500 mb of 4g. I use it though as i normally have wifi and it saves me so much money and when i do need data its there but a bit slower. Runs on tmobile towers though so if tmobiles bad in your area then avoid it.

abdel12345 said:
Please let me know how you like the size and build compared to the s6, im considering doing the same. Also if you dont use data too kuch i recommend considering lycamobile. 23 dollar plan for unlimited talk and text and unlimited 3g data though only 500 mb of 4g. I use it though as i normally have wifi and it saves me so much money and when i do need data its there but a bit slower. Runs on tmobile towers though so if tmobiles bad in your area then avoid it.
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Size is definitely bigger but it took me all of 15 minutes to get used to it. With an Otterbox case on my S6 it's not much different for one handed use. I don't use a ton of data but 1.5GB per month is normal usage for me so the 2.5GB Cricket plan is just about right. So far today I've made several calls and texts and no issues. The phone speaker is not quite as loud as the S6 but it gets the job done. The front speakers are way louder than the S6's little downfiring one but the sound quality is not quite as good as the HTC phones with boomsound.

Budwise said:
Sad to say but I'm tossing my hands in the air with the S6 and Verizon. I can't believe Verizon killed this phone so badly with development while asking such a premium price for their service. Even with a 15% enterprise discount I'm still paying $150+ for 2 phones and 3GB of shared data.
Last night I gave in and ordered a Nexus 6P for myself and a Nexus 5X for the wife and we'll be buying out our phones from Verizon, porting our numbers over to Cricket, and selling the S6's on Swappa. $70 flat per month for 2.5GB per line on Cricket beats the pants of Verizon. Now I know the LTE is capped at 8MB/s and although using ATT network its not quite as good as Verizon, but I'm in WiFi range all day at work and we don't travel across the country much to worry about backwoods coverage.
Anyone else moving to Cricket? Anyone make the move to a Nexus phone, how do you like it?
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What company allows you to have corporate email on an unlocked phone? That's the entire point of why Verizon and Samsung lock the phones down. That's why Knox is the best security out there, to meet compliance standards. For me it's not even a question, no way to have an unlocked phone with corporate data on it. I have an unlocked S5 Dev model I can switch to if I want to play with ROMs but can't have corporate data on it, security tools will catch me in a second.

thuddome said:
What company allows you to have corporate email on an unlocked phone? That's the entire point of why Verizon and Samsung lock the phones down. That's why Knox is the best security out there, to meet compliance standards. For me it's not even a question, no way to have an unlocked phone with corporate data on it. I have an unlocked S5 Dev model I can switch to if I want to play with ROMs but can't have corporate data on it, security tools will catch me in a second.
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I'm the Admin. ☺

Budwise said:
I'm the Admin. ☺
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I'm a Security Consultant... Not good

thuddome said:
I'm a Security Consultant... Not good
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Yea, our company of 20 people is super casual, nearly anti-corporate. Everyone uses their own phones on their own plans for the most part. The joys of small business

Why cricket? Why not T-Mobile? $80/month Unlimited all w/ 7gb Tethering. All at LTE. I currently use it without a contract and use a Droid Turbo for the moment(had a Nexus 5, but I wore it out way too much, getting back to the Nexus line in the next month. Been using all Nexus models since the Nexus S 4G)
Or you can do like Metro PCS or a lower plan on T-Mobile and save alot since it looks like you don't use much data anyways.

If you bought a 6P use project fi. It's really great, plus with wifi you may save even more money. 2 lines would be $40 then you pay for your data at $10/GB. We have 4 lines at $80 and use very very little data. My total bill is under $100 every month!!
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xBr4v3x said:
Why cricket? Why not T-Mobile? $80/month Unlimited all w/ 7gb Tethering. All at LTE. I currently use it without a contract and use a Droid Turbo for the moment(had a Nexus 5, but I wore it out way too much, getting back to the Nexus line in the next month. Been using all Nexus models since the Nexus S 4G)
Or you can do like Metro PCS or a lower plan on T-Mobile and save alot since it looks like you don't use much data anyways.
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Unlimited is 95 now.

Budwise said:
Sad to say but I'm tossing my hands in the air with the S6 and Verizon. I can't believe Verizon killed this phone so badly with development while asking such a premium price for their service. Even with a 15% enterprise discount I'm still paying $150+ for 2 phones and 3GB of shared data.
Last night I gave in and ordered a Nexus 6P for myself and a Nexus 5X for the wife and we'll be buying out our phones from Verizon, porting our numbers over to Cricket, and selling the S6's on Swappa. $70 flat per month for 2.5GB per line on Cricket beats the pants of Verizon. Now I know the LTE is capped at 8MB/s and although using ATT network its not quite as good as Verizon, but I'm in WiFi range all day at work and we don't travel across the country much to worry about backwoods coverage.
Anyone else moving to Cricket? Anyone make the move to a Nexus phone, how do you like it?
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I have 2 lines too. The service fee is $70 plus tax for 4gb shared data. The Go90 app will give you 2gb free data for 3 months. If you want to cheap service, Ringplus maybe the best option in the market. Please check ringplus.net and it has Leonardo free plans available now. I signed up the service using my old Nexus 5 and it was supported by advertisement to cut down the service fee.

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Unlimited is 95 now.
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Didn't see that. Well my account still only charges me $80/month.
MetroPCS is still $60/Month for Unlim all, so that's a plus at least. Better than Cricket.

xBr4v3x said:
Didn't see that. Well my account still only charges me $80/month.
MetroPCS is still $60/Month for Unlim all, so that's a plus at least. Better than Cricket.
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That's for new customers.

anewday said:
That's for new customers.
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Yeah, I'm about to keep T-Mobile as my main and get a Karma with its unlim. plan in the next week or two, since I kinda have 7 phones, a tablet, and 2 laptops....

thuddome said:
What company allows you to have corporate email on an unlocked phone? That's the entire point of why Verizon and Samsung lock the phones down. That's why Knox is the best security out there, to meet compliance standards. For me it's not even a question, no way to have an unlocked phone with corporate data on it. I have an unlocked S5 Dev model I can switch to if I want to play with ROMs but can't have corporate data on it, security tools will catch me in a second.
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In my experience, companies that require you to have a mobile device AND have it locked down to access corporate e-mail will often times either provide you with a company cell phone or give you the choice to use your own device.
I've yet to work for a company that required I have access to a corporate e-mail and network account and not provided me with a company cell phone. Then, I have the company phone which is all locked down, stock, and only used for company business but the plus side is I do not pay for it. Then I carry my personal cell phone on which I can do whatever I please.

Budwise said:
Sad to say but I'm tossing my hands in the air with the S6 and Verizon. I can't believe Verizon killed this phone so badly with development while asking such a premium price for their service. Even with a 15% enterprise discount I'm still paying $150+ for 2 phones and 3GB of shared data.
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Does the $150 includes the monthly phone payments? I just recently gave up grandfathered unlimited data for the Verizon no contract 24 payments phone purchase. I am paying about $147 monthly with 3 gigs of shared data. That includes about $55 for monthly phone payments. If I purchased the phones outright, a S6 and iPhone 6S, the payments would be around $92 a month. Apparently you puchased your phones outright. I would think another $20 would be worth the much better service you would receive with Verizon.