Sad to say but I'm tossing my hands in the air with the S6 and Verizon. I can't believe Verizon killed this phone so badly with development while asking such a premium price for their service. Even with a 15% enterprise discount I'm still paying $150+ for 2 phones and 3GB of shared data.
Last night I gave in and ordered a Nexus 6P for myself and a Nexus 5X for the wife and we'll be buying out our phones from Verizon, porting our numbers over to Cricket, and selling the S6's on Swappa. $70 flat per month for 2.5GB per line on Cricket beats the pants of Verizon. Now I know the LTE is capped at 8MB/s and although using ATT network its not quite as good as Verizon, but I'm in WiFi range all day at work and we don't travel across the country much to worry about backwoods coverage.
Anyone else moving to Cricket? Anyone make the move to a Nexus phone, how do you like it?
Good luck getting service anywhere... You may be saving a ton of money, but Cricket sucks terribly.
All traffic goes through a proxy on Cricket and has lower priority than their postpaid customers.
You get what you pay for. Since I use my phone daily, I'd rather err on the side of paying extra to get dependable service. VZW service is second to none. The nexus line works with Version as well.
Yes, I agree with all of you. That said, an open phone is an open phone. I can go to Page Wireless if I want to go back to the Verizon network, I could go Boost wireless, a handful of others as well. I was just tired of being locked into Verizon with their locked down phones and high prices.
Also, I got the Nexus 6P yesterday and it's quite good. I went to Cricket and got it activated after updating and rooting/romming the hell out of it and so far so good. Time will tell, I'm just happy I can pull the sim card and toss it and change to another provider at any time with no ill effects. This is the future!
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Yes, I agree with all of you. That said, an open phone is an open phone. I can go to Page Wireless if I want to go back to the Verizon network, I could go Boost wireless, a handful of others as well. I was just tired of being locked into Verizon with their locked down phones and high prices.
Also, I got the Nexus 6P yesterday and it's quite good. I went to Cricket and got it activated after updating and rooting/romming the hell out of it and so far so good. Time will tell, I'm just happy I can pull the sim card and toss it and change to another provider at any time with no ill effects. This is the future!
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Please let me know how you like the size and build compared to the s6, im considering doing the same. Also if you dont use data too kuch i recommend considering lycamobile. 23 dollar plan for unlimited talk and text and unlimited 3g data though only 500 mb of 4g. I use it though as i normally have wifi and it saves me so much money and when i do need data its there but a bit slower. Runs on tmobile towers though so if tmobiles bad in your area then avoid it.
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Please let me know how you like the size and build compared to the s6, im considering doing the same. Also if you dont use data too kuch i recommend considering lycamobile. 23 dollar plan for unlimited talk and text and unlimited 3g data though only 500 mb of 4g. I use it though as i normally have wifi and it saves me so much money and when i do need data its there but a bit slower. Runs on tmobile towers though so if tmobiles bad in your area then avoid it.
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Size is definitely bigger but it took me all of 15 minutes to get used to it. With an Otterbox case on my S6 it's not much different for one handed use. I don't use a ton of data but 1.5GB per month is normal usage for me so the 2.5GB Cricket plan is just about right. So far today I've made several calls and texts and no issues. The phone speaker is not quite as loud as the S6 but it gets the job done. The front speakers are way louder than the S6's little downfiring one but the sound quality is not quite as good as the HTC phones with boomsound.
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Sad to say but I'm tossing my hands in the air with the S6 and Verizon. I can't believe Verizon killed this phone so badly with development while asking such a premium price for their service. Even with a 15% enterprise discount I'm still paying $150+ for 2 phones and 3GB of shared data.
Last night I gave in and ordered a Nexus 6P for myself and a Nexus 5X for the wife and we'll be buying out our phones from Verizon, porting our numbers over to Cricket, and selling the S6's on Swappa. $70 flat per month for 2.5GB per line on Cricket beats the pants of Verizon. Now I know the LTE is capped at 8MB/s and although using ATT network its not quite as good as Verizon, but I'm in WiFi range all day at work and we don't travel across the country much to worry about backwoods coverage.
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What company allows you to have corporate email on an unlocked phone? That's the entire point of why Verizon and Samsung lock the phones down. That's why Knox is the best security out there, to meet compliance standards. For me it's not even a question, no way to have an unlocked phone with corporate data on it. I have an unlocked S5 Dev model I can switch to if I want to play with ROMs but can't have corporate data on it, security tools will catch me in a second.
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What company allows you to have corporate email on an unlocked phone? That's the entire point of why Verizon and Samsung lock the phones down. That's why Knox is the best security out there, to meet compliance standards. For me it's not even a question, no way to have an unlocked phone with corporate data on it. I have an unlocked S5 Dev model I can switch to if I want to play with ROMs but can't have corporate data on it, security tools will catch me in a second.
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I'm the Admin. ☺
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I'm the Admin. ☺
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I'm a Security Consultant... Not good
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I'm a Security Consultant... Not good
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Yea, our company of 20 people is super casual, nearly anti-corporate. Everyone uses their own phones on their own plans for the most part. The joys of small business
Why cricket? Why not T-Mobile? $80/month Unlimited all w/ 7gb Tethering. All at LTE. I currently use it without a contract and use a Droid Turbo for the moment(had a Nexus 5, but I wore it out way too much, getting back to the Nexus line in the next month. Been using all Nexus models since the Nexus S 4G)
Or you can do like Metro PCS or a lower plan on T-Mobile and save alot since it looks like you don't use much data anyways.
If you bought a 6P use project fi. It's really great, plus with wifi you may save even more money. 2 lines would be $40 then you pay for your data at $10/GB. We have 4 lines at $80 and use very very little data. My total bill is under $100 every month!!
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Why cricket? Why not T-Mobile? $80/month Unlimited all w/ 7gb Tethering. All at LTE. I currently use it without a contract and use a Droid Turbo for the moment(had a Nexus 5, but I wore it out way too much, getting back to the Nexus line in the next month. Been using all Nexus models since the Nexus S 4G)
Or you can do like Metro PCS or a lower plan on T-Mobile and save alot since it looks like you don't use much data anyways.
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Unlimited is 95 now.
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Sad to say but I'm tossing my hands in the air with the S6 and Verizon. I can't believe Verizon killed this phone so badly with development while asking such a premium price for their service. Even with a 15% enterprise discount I'm still paying $150+ for 2 phones and 3GB of shared data.
Last night I gave in and ordered a Nexus 6P for myself and a Nexus 5X for the wife and we'll be buying out our phones from Verizon, porting our numbers over to Cricket, and selling the S6's on Swappa. $70 flat per month for 2.5GB per line on Cricket beats the pants of Verizon. Now I know the LTE is capped at 8MB/s and although using ATT network its not quite as good as Verizon, but I'm in WiFi range all day at work and we don't travel across the country much to worry about backwoods coverage.
Anyone else moving to Cricket? Anyone make the move to a Nexus phone, how do you like it?
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I have 2 lines too. The service fee is $70 plus tax for 4gb shared data. The Go90 app will give you 2gb free data for 3 months. If you want to cheap service, Ringplus maybe the best option in the market. Please check ringplus.net and it has Leonardo free plans available now. I signed up the service using my old Nexus 5 and it was supported by advertisement to cut down the service fee.
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Didn't see that. Well my account still only charges me $80/month.
MetroPCS is still $60/Month for Unlim all, so that's a plus at least. Better than Cricket.
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Didn't see that. Well my account still only charges me $80/month.
MetroPCS is still $60/Month for Unlim all, so that's a plus at least. Better than Cricket.
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That's for new customers.
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That's for new customers.
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Yeah, I'm about to keep T-Mobile as my main and get a Karma with its unlim. plan in the next week or two, since I kinda have 7 phones, a tablet, and 2 laptops....
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What company allows you to have corporate email on an unlocked phone? That's the entire point of why Verizon and Samsung lock the phones down. That's why Knox is the best security out there, to meet compliance standards. For me it's not even a question, no way to have an unlocked phone with corporate data on it. I have an unlocked S5 Dev model I can switch to if I want to play with ROMs but can't have corporate data on it, security tools will catch me in a second.
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In my experience, companies that require you to have a mobile device AND have it locked down to access corporate e-mail will often times either provide you with a company cell phone or give you the choice to use your own device.
I've yet to work for a company that required I have access to a corporate e-mail and network account and not provided me with a company cell phone. Then, I have the company phone which is all locked down, stock, and only used for company business but the plus side is I do not pay for it. Then I carry my personal cell phone on which I can do whatever I please.
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Sad to say but I'm tossing my hands in the air with the S6 and Verizon. I can't believe Verizon killed this phone so badly with development while asking such a premium price for their service. Even with a 15% enterprise discount I'm still paying $150+ for 2 phones and 3GB of shared data.
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Does the $150 includes the monthly phone payments? I just recently gave up grandfathered unlimited data for the Verizon no contract 24 payments phone purchase. I am paying about $147 monthly with 3 gigs of shared data. That includes about $55 for monthly phone payments. If I purchased the phones outright, a S6 and iPhone 6S, the payments would be around $92 a month. Apparently you puchased your phones outright. I would think another $20 would be worth the much better service you would receive with Verizon.
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So I have been creaming over this phone for an entire month. But after reading again and again, i decided against it. I am seriously considering tmobile's, Here is why .
I am ordering the phone full price from verizon so i can keep my unlimited . I Tether all the time and my lowest data usage has been around 6 gb, i can go up to 60 sometimes in a month.
right now I own the S3, its of course unlocked and rooted with custom everything.
1- The fact that now KNOX is coming to the picture and the uncertainty of the rooting future scares the crap out of me. WIthout rooting, i cant tether, so i am buying a full price phone to keep an unlimited that i will not use to its full potential as I wish. ( this is not a moral thread, please refrain from giving me life lessons ). I also hate ads with a passion, gotta run ad blocker, and i cant imagine living life without XPOSED. ROOT IS A MUST.
2- Tmobile phones come unlocked, I am btw only referring to bootloader, which i care deeply for, I dont travel internationally , so sim unlocked is not an issue I care for, from the very first day, I need to verify it , but if thats the case, then i will finally feel like I own my phone that I bought .
3- with an extra 10 dollar month, i get to change my phone every 6 months. AND THIS AMOUNT INCLUDES INSURANCE FOR MY PHONE .
4- T mobile is a heck of a lot cheaper , unlimited every thing costs a fraction of verizon.
5- I will beat my self with an ugly stick , if they release a verizon developer edition in the future. I'll wait a month or two ( its killing me inside ) to see the developer status, if they release it , i might contemplate ordering it from samsung , but it will fix 99 % of my disappointments.
6 -Unless the dev. community unlocks the phone , at least root it , verizon note 3 is just a loser deal in every single way. so once again its wise for me wait .
7- the wifi calling feature , i feel would make up for tmobiles lack of great coverage .
I think i have to stop behaving like a kid and have some patience to see the root and developer status with verizon note 3
Back in the day , it was all about service reliability for me. But now my phone is more than just for phone calls. Its my tablet, laptop, navigator and actually , very lil for direct phone calls. Is verizons service really worth paying outright $ 700 for a phone , that i cant use the way i like ?
The point of this thread - insight , some members here have done a fantastic job pointing out things that would not have foreseen on my own. Thanks to all in advance !
I'm switching to Tmobile also but from AT&T pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned. Even in paying for Jump, my plan is still cheaper with Tmobile then the same plan is for AT&T.
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I'm switching to Tmobile also but from AT&T pretty much for the same reasons you mentioned. Even in paying for Jump, my plan is still cheaper with Tmobile then the same plan is for AT&T.
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Considering T-Mobile as well because I'm on Sprint and you know how their data and network is... :silly:'
Also Sprint had the smart decision of making the Note 3 single band LTE . They are the only carrier in US with single band LTE Note 3 while their network has tri-band LTE. T-mobile has like quad-band LTE support along with the others. I'm also on a Sprint Sero Premium plan which makes switching difficult as I'll be paying more through T-mobile but I think it will be worth it for the better overall network experience. I may just keep my Sprint and use T-Mobile $30 plan with the Note 3 for a month to see how it goes.
I left Verizon over a year ago, went to Sprint (big mistake) and had the Note II now I'm on T-Mobile with a Nexus 4 waiting for my pre-ordered Note III to ship.
I have ZERO issues with T-Mobile and I'm so glad to be away from Verizon's politics. I mean when the Galaxy S III came out they were the only carrier in the world to lock the bootloader.
If T-Mobile's coverage is good in your area I would say make the jump!
Doesn't T-Mobile throttle your data though? What good is unlimited data if it gets throttled after 2GB?
I am on Verizon's unlimited data as well. What I do when I want to tether is I switch my SIM card from my Crapple iPhone 5 to my wife's Crapple jail broken iPhone 5 and tether away.
Yes, it's a major hassle, but hopefully the Note 3 gets rooted. I don't think KNOX has any effect on the bootloader being unlockable.
And it's way better than being on a carrier that throttles LTE.
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The Note 3 has already been rooted in the developer forums.
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Doesn't T-Mobile throttle your data though? What good is unlimited data if it gets throttled after 2GB?
I am on Verizon's unlimited data as well. What I do when I want to tether is I switch my SIM card from my Crapple iPhone 5 to my wife's Crapple jail broken iPhone 5 and tether away.
Yes, it's a major hassle, but hopefully the Note 3 gets rooted. I don't think KNOX has any effect on the bootloader being unlockable.
And it's way better than being on a carrier that throttles LTE.
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T-Mobile has unlimited data, but they have several different amounts of "HighSpeed" you can select from. They have 500mb, 2.5gb and unlimited.
If you choose lets say the 2.5gb plan then yes once you go over the 2.5gb you get throttled but if you choose the unlimited then you do not get throttled.
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Doesn't T-Mobile throttle your data though? What good is unlimited data if it gets throttled after 2GB?
I am on Verizon's unlimited data as well. What I do when I want to tether is I switch my SIM card from my Crapple iPhone 5 to my wife's Crapple jail broken iPhone 5 and tether away.
Yes, it's a major hassle, but hopefully the Note 3 gets rooted. I don't think KNOX has any effect on the bootloader being unlockable.
And it's way better than being on a carrier that throttles LTE.
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Their unlimited 4g plan has no throttling and 2.5 gb personal hot spot included. with their edge and unlimited text and talk and not paying the price phone in full its 94 per month. if i pay every thing out right ( which is what i am planning ) becomes 80 a month.
I also wanna add another reason, Jump from t-mobile: the $10 jump fee, includes insurance for the phone and the upgrade every 6 months !
thats not the verizon edition
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verizon's edition , from what I hear will be bootloader locked. What scares me is that HTC one has not been rooted till now ! Also , S4 bootloader is still locked, although they do have root. However, this is pre-knox days .
I am leaving Verizon mid Oct, when my contract ends. There is no reason for me to stay as they have made it clear they don't want my business. Been a long time.
We all do not know whether T-Mobile version has unlocked bootloader or not.
However, if you pay in full in the first place, you can receive unlocked code after the trial period is over.
If you have Nationwide 4G, phone only data is 100% (or 99.9999999999%) unlimited and you have 2.5GB hotspot sharing included, but according to my experience, I don't see throttling on sharing part yet (your mileage may vary however because I am a 10 years customer).
Make sure you get HSPA and/or LTE wherever you are.
I think tmobile may throttle you after 5gb on the unlimited plan but in not sure. Thats fine with me though.
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I think tmobile may throttle you after 5gb on the unlimited plan but in not sure. Thats fine with me though.
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If you have Nationwide 4G data as I have ($20 with Value/Simple plan), your data is unlimited with phone (get old version of My Account - a guy holding a phone) and it shows 9.xxxGB.
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We all do not know whether T-Mobile version has unlocked bootloader or not.
However, if you pay in full in the first place, you can receive unlocked code after the trial period is over.
If you have Nationwide 4G, phone only data is 100% (or 99.9999999999%) unlimited and you have 2.5GB hotspot sharing included, but according to my experience, I don't see throttling on sharing part yet (your mileage may vary however because I am a 10 years customer).
Make sure you get HSPA and/or LTE wherever you are.
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T-Mobile has no history of locking bootloaders so I would put my money on that the bootloader will not be locked. Even more so now that they don't have contracts and your buying your phone outright.
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If you have Nationwide 4G data as I have ($20 with Value/Simple plan), your data is unlimited with phone (get old version of My Account - a guy holding a phone) and it shows 9.xxxGB.
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14.8gb of 9765.62gb to that's pretty much unlimited.
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Well i am really grateful for all the constructive additions to this thread. Thanks to each and every one of you. I think I am going to preorder the tmobile edition tomorrow, and i just found out that they give 20 days trial period instead of verizon's 14 days. So i can really play with the reception and see how they stack up against my s3 with verizon.
I'm on Verizon right now but I preordered the T-Mobile Note 3. I've never had T-Mobile before but I'm willing to try them out. Their coverage map looks good in my state but coverage maps can be deceiving. I'm definitely gonna be driving around and checking things out for the first 14 days. I hope all goes well because I don't want to stay on Verizon and I'd rather things go well with T-Mobile than to go to AT&T.
So wait a minute.
Say I have the $80 everything unlimited plan on TMobile.
That includes 2.5GB of hotspot tether.
What if I use a third party app or a custom ROM that hides the hotspot use? Can T-Mobile still catch that and spank me?
Reason I ask is because I live in an RV for part of the year so I don't have access to cable internet. LTE is my only source of internet.
I tether about 80 to 100 GB per month on average. How would that work on T-Mobile?
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Hmm, the more I think about it, the more intrigued I am.
If am able to use an app to hide tethering, I think I might make the jump!
Im switching to tmobile from sprint
I am on the Sprint Network and will stay with them for a variety of reasons. I have always had a contract with them and upgraded whenever that opportunity presented itself. I am no longer on a contract and I'm considering a few options. The Note 3 (probably won't go that way due to problems on voice calls), The LG G2 or the Nexus 5. Advantage of the Nexus 5 is that it is off contract but if I am staying with Sprint anyway what advantage is there to being off contract? Sprint won't discount my monthly bill as far as I know so the off contract advantage has me a bit puzzled from the purely dollars and cents point of view. I'd be happy to hear views from others as to why this seems like a good idea. I'm leaning toward the LG G2 which will likely have a better camera and battery than the Nexus 5 and it's only $99 at Sprint with the 2 year contract. I'd go for the Nexus 5 at 399 for the 32GB model if it meant something off my monthly bill but I don't see Sprint giving me a discount just because I bought the Nexus 5 off contract. What am I missing?
I am in the exact same situation as you, except I bought a Note 3 and just returned it. If the Sprint Nexus 5 is available through google play, you buy that, use your upgrade towards an iphone 5s and sell it sealed. If the Nexus 5 winds up being only available through Sprint, then I'm not so sure what I'm going to do.
You can change your mind and leave whenever you want. And with the nexus you will be able to go to any carrier you want (except Verizon).
All in all, it gives you more options on what service provider you want. I would recommend seeing what offers the best service (data and calls) and pick that carrier or see if you can go prepaid. I know straight talk offers at&t and T-Mobile Sim cards and its like $51 a month after taxes for unlimited everything with 2.5 GB uncapped data.
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You can change your mind and leave whenever you want. And with the nexus you will be able to go to any carrier you want (except Verizon).
All in all, it gives you more options on what service provider you want. I would recommend seeing what offers the best service (data and calls) and pick that carrier or see if you can go prepaid. I know straight talk offers at&t and T-Mobile Sim cards and its like $51 a month after taxes for unlimited everything with 2.5 GB uncapped data.
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Yes, I totally agree that there are A LOT of options. I've even thought about picking up Tmo @ $30/month, but I'm on Sero, only pay $50/month for unlimited everything, and my Sprint service has been fantastic since relocating to Orlando, FL. Oh decisions decisions
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I am in the exact same situation as you, except I bought a Note 3 and just returned it. If the Sprint Nexus 5 is available through google play, you buy that, use your upgrade towards an iphone 5s and sell it sealed. If the Nexus 5 winds up being only available through Sprint, then I'm not so sure what I'm going to do.
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Boom Baby. Haha
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Trying to weigh my options as well.
My 2 year contract expired many months ago. I can buy the 16g Nexus 5 for $150 if I sign a new 2 year agreement, I can change to the Sprint One Up plan so I can be eligible for a new phone once a year (not sure pricing details), or I can buy through the Google Playstore for $350/$400. I have so many family members tied to the plan I am on I probably wouldn't switch carriers.
So if I bought through Google and in a year's time I wanted to switch phones I guess I could sell the Nexus 5 then use my upgrade to buy whatever phone I wanted. If I buy through Sprint, the upfront cost is cheaper, but I will have to wait a couple years if I want to switch phones.
Decisions, what do ya'll think?
For someone off-contract but that wants to stick with their post-paid account, the only advantage is flexibility. If coverage or financial conditions changed, you have the choice to be able to switch providers with no termination fees.
The only real exception to that would be the newer T-Mobile post-paid accounts where they do offer plans with lower base costs per month because they split off the phone subsidy, so if you bring your own phone you pay less since you aren't using a subsidy.
If you have a high degree of confidence you will be staying with your current contract provider and that other things like your financial situation will remain stable, I would say it makes more sense to just re-up with them and choose whatever phone you want from them. As far as which one, read some reviews and then try them out in-person at your local provider's store. Everyone has slightly different things they want out of phones, so without specific criteria it would be hard to say whether a Nexus 5 would still be the best phone for you.
I agree with you, flexibility is the main advantage of staying off contract. I've had an S3 for the last couple of years and am getting the itch to switch. If the HTC One came out today I would probably get that because I love the looks and build of it and I liked my original Evo, but it's so "old" now I want something newer - LG G2, Nexus 5 or some other upcoming phone.
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For someone off-contract but that wants to stick with their post-paid account, the only advantage is flexibility. If coverage or financial conditions changed, you have the choice to be able to switch providers with no termination fees.
The only real exception to that would be the newer T-Mobile post-paid accounts where they do offer plans with lower base costs per month because they split off the phone subsidy, so if you bring your own phone you pay less since you aren't using a subsidy.
If you have a high degree of confidence you will be staying with your current contract provider and that other things like your financial situation will remain stable, I would say it makes more sense to just re-up with them and choose whatever phone you want from them. As far as which one, read some reviews and then try them out in-person at your local provider's store. Everyone has slightly different things they want out of phones, so without specific criteria it would be hard to say whether a Nexus 5 would still be the best phone for you.
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It always amazes me how people would rather be in a contract that will require them to pay between $1-2,000 more over two years, instead of buying a phone outright and upfront, and save the money. Unless someone is too broke to afford a phone upfront... Of course if you can't afford a phone upfront, you likely can't afford a $100 monthly cell phone bill either.
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It always amazes me how people would rather be in a contract that will require them to pay between $1-2,000 more over two years, instead of buying a phone outright and upfront, and save the money. Unless someone is too broke to afford a phone upfront... Of course if you can't afford a phone upfront, you likely can't afford a $100 monthly cell phone bill either.
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Sure, but for people who only pay $50/month for essentially unlimited everything ( 1000 landline minutes, unlimited mobile minutes, texts, and data), subsidizing phones works in our favor.
We've been w/Sprint forever and have numerous phones on the account. I'm one of the ones who pays $50 for unlimited. I'm assuming I would continue to pay $50/month whether I bought a phone outright or through contract. I doubt if I bought a phone off contract my bill would be lower than $50/month.
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Sure, but for people who only pay $50/month for essentially unlimited everything ( 1000 landline minutes, unlimited mobile minutes, texts, and data), subsidizing phones works in our favor.
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If your on contract, why not buy the phone through google play and just use that on Sprint til you leave for ATT/Tmo?
I'm off contract, like a year now.
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If your on contract, why not buy the phone through google play and just use that on Sprint til you leave for ATT/Tmo?
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Still truckin' with my VZW GNex, but it is certainly pretty long in the tooth. Assuming that there is no way (esp since Nexus 5 lacks Band 13) to shoehorn Nexus 5 into working with VZW, is this enough of a reason to switch carriers and lose unlimited data? I'm very torn. I actually don't use a ton ton of data, but it's really nice when I travel or am in a place that requires you pay for their hotspot.
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Still truckin' with my VZW GNex, but it is certainly pretty long in the tooth. Assuming that there is no way (esp since Nexus 5 lacks Band 13) to shoehorn Nexus 5 into working with VZW, is this enough of a reason to switch carriers and lose unlimited data? I'm very torn. I actually don't use a ton ton of data, but it's really nice when I travel or am in a place that requires you pay for their hotspot.
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I dropped Verizon with a grandfathered unlimited plan when the Nexus 4 came out. First went to Solavei and got their $50 bucks a month for unlimited everything, then realized I could go even cheaper with T-Mobile's $30 for unlimited data (up to 5gb before throttling), unlimited text and 100 minutes calling. I have never regretted it and will never go to a monthly contract plan again as long as I can pre-paid so cheap (and no taxes on top of it...). Well worth it. I pay less than 1/3 of what I was paying Verizon and get enough of everything I need.
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Still truckin' with my VZW GNex, but it is certainly pretty long in the tooth. Assuming that there is no way (esp since Nexus 5 lacks Band 13) to shoehorn Nexus 5 into working with VZW, is this enough of a reason to switch carriers and lose unlimited data? I'm very torn. I actually don't use a ton ton of data, but it's really nice when I travel or am in a place that requires you pay for their hotspot.
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I've had Verizon as well forever with unlimited data. I've actually wanted to leave for some time now but haven't had any phone come out that I wanted to leave for. Verizon's prices are just ridiculous for what it offers. With people being off contract on Verizon or them offering their upgrade, their plans don't get cheaper as they should. You're getting a subsidized phone, so you're paying for the phone in your plan. But if the phone is paid off or an additional fee on top of the plan then it's completely pointless for it to be so high.
I'm quite excited to be saving quite a lot every month by switching to T-mobile. My bill is going to be getting cut almost in half for three lines. On top of that, the few times I leave the country I won't need to worry about getting $50 of data in 30 seconds as through Verizon.
Also, the Unlimited Data everyone loves on Verizon is quite pointless, unless you use tethering from your device every day as a primary internet source.
So really it's going to be different for everyone, but for myself everywhere that I go on a regular basis has same T-mobile coverage as Verizon. So for me it was a no brainer. Another bonus is if you work for any larger corporation you can get company discounts as well, and T-mobile handles theirs much better. I currently have a 20% off on my Verizon plan but it only applies to the main account # and not the rest. So it ends up saving like $6/month. Whereas the T-mobile ones are off the entire plan minus taxes and fees.
I left Verizon for an N4 so I surely would leave for an N5!
Aio wireless, $55 for 2GB unlimited text and talk and if you use more data then that they have a 7GB plan for $70. Both prices include tax and fee's already! They use AT&T's network so depending where you live, in most places you will be good to go!
In my opinion, grandfathered unlimited data is not worth being stuck on an overpriced, non-customer centered carrier like Verizon. They will never change their ways unless people stop letting them get away with their completely unfriendly policies and leave them. I recommend going the pre-paid route. Look at T-Mobile if their network is strong where you are, or AT&T's Go Phone $60 plan. Leave contracts behind! Fight the system!
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Still truckin' with my VZW GNex, but it is certainly pretty long in the tooth. Assuming that there is no way (esp since Nexus 5 lacks Band 13) to shoehorn Nexus 5 into working with VZW, is this enough of a reason to switch carriers and lose unlimited data? I'm very torn. I actually don't use a ton ton of data, but it's really nice when I travel or am in a place that requires you pay for their hotspot.
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I ordered the Nexus 5 and I've been with Verizon a long time, have an unlimited data plan too. I'm in NYC Metro and the network speed is poor, mostly between 1-5mbps.
I'm paying $130/mo (unlimited talk and data, 250 test) using around 3g per month. Even at 5g per month, I'd still do far better with a prepaid account. If Verizon was getting the Nexus 5, I' probably would have just stayed with them. I'm planning on getting a T-Mobile $60 2.5gb plan, no contract.
Only you can decide if it is worth switching.
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Still truckin' with my VZW GNex, but it is certainly pretty long in the tooth. Assuming that there is no way (esp since Nexus 5 lacks Band 13) to shoehorn Nexus 5 into working with VZW, is this enough of a reason to switch carriers and lose unlimited data? I'm very torn. I actually don't use a ton ton of data, but it's really nice when I travel or am in a place that requires you pay for their hotspot.
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I was amazed to find the $30 unlimited data/txt plan on T-Mobile and just activated it today! I've always been wanting a plan like this because I hardly ever use any minutes but have always been paying for them regardless. I'm getting 22mbps down and 5mbps up where I live on T-Mobile for $30/month I'm counting down the days until I can port my # (gnex contract is up in Dec) and kill Verizon for good!
it really depends on your coverage in your area. In my area AT&T doesn't get service in my house and T-Mobile gets none if I go 30 minutes down the road. So I'm trying out the $60 T-Mobile plan right now to see if I should leave my Moto X at Verizon. So far all good, LTE is comparable to the Verizon speeds I got
Hello,
I am up for a phone renewal next month (HTC EVO 4G LTE) and I was eyeing the Nexus 5 as my next phone.
Can anyone please tell me if the carrier based contract version (Sprint Nexus 5) will receive Android updates at the same time as the Play Store Nexus 5? As in, Sprint won't have anything to do with updates for the device?
Thanks!
all nexus 5 get updates from google, no matter which carrier or location you bought it at.
If I recall, they get the updates at the same time that Google releases them. Typically Google does staged roll outs of the update, so it may take a few days for some people to get it, while others receive it right away.
If you're still concerned about carriers screwing up update times, you can always purchase a Nexus 5 unlocked from the Play store straight from Google and go to Sprint for them to activate it.
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If I recall, they get the updates at the same time that Google releases them. Typically Google does staged roll outs of the update, so it may take a few days for some people to get it, while others receive it right away.
If you're still concerned about carriers screwing up update times, you can always purchase a Nexus 5 unlocked from the Play store straight from Google and go to Sprint for them to activate it.
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Nice! That works perfect for me. One of the primary reasons I want to go Nexus 5 is the pure Android, always current updates flavor.
I'm not sure if I want to do an unlocked phone on Sprint yet as there would be no real financial benefit for me to do so. I was also tossing around the idea of doing the Play Store Unlocked version and jumping to T-Mobile for a no contract plan.
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all nexus 5 get updates from google, no matter which carrier or location you bought it at.
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Perfect! Thank you! I wanted to make sure of this, but was having a hard time finding any concrete evidence. I absolutely do not want any Sprint middleman on my next phone regarding updates.
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Nice! That works perfect for me. One of the primary reasons I want to go Nexus 5 is the pure Android, always current updates flavor.
I'm not sure if I want to do an unlocked phone on Sprint yet as there would be no real financial benefit for me to do so. I was also tossing around the idea of doing the Play Store Unlocked version and jumping to T-Mobile for a no contract plan.
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T-Mobile's service is good in certain areas, spotty in others. I had it back then on my Nexus 4 and it worked great, but then AT&T bought out Aio wireless and I switched to that. The coverage is 100x better on Aio mainly because AT&T covers the majority of the USA since they're such a large carrier. Pricing is about the same. I pay $55 a month for unlimited talk, text, 2GB of high speed data, then throttled unlimited data. I get 8mbps on LTE which is great, and then it's throttled to 256kbps once I go over the 2GB allowance. It's still enough to surf the web and casually watch videos online.
Sorry about my carrier rant haha, I had sprint before and just couldn't tolerate the spotty and slow service for what I had to pay monthly. Buying a phone unlocked is "more expensive upfront" but it's a huge saving in the long run with the right plan.
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T-Mobile's service is good in certain areas, spotty in others. I had it back then on my Nexus 4 and it worked great, but then AT&T bought out Aio wireless and I switched to that. The coverage is 100x better on Aio mainly because AT&T covers the majority of the USA since they're such a large carrier. Pricing is about the same. I pay $55 a month for unlimited talk, text, 2GB of high speed data, then throttled unlimited data. I get 8mbps on LTE which is great, and then it's throttled to 256kbps once I go over the 2GB allowance. It's still enough to surf the web and casually watch videos online.
Sorry about my carrier rant haha, I had sprint before and just couldn't tolerate the spotty and slow service for what I had to pay monthly. Buying a phone unlocked is "more expensive upfront" but it's a huge saving in the long run with the right plan.
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That's about spot-on with what I have - I'll check into Aio, never heard of them before, wonder if they're in Ohio.
I was going to jump ship from sprint after four years of not having LTE, but they finally started covering northeast Ohio in a few areas (including my home) so I'm fairly happy now.
I also use 2-3GB of data a month, with peaks of 5GB on certain months that I stream music more. I do use Sprint's unlimited for what it's worth.
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That's about spot-on with what I have - I'll check into Aio, never heard of them before, wonder if they're in Ohio.
I was going to jump ship from sprint after four years of not having LTE, but they finally started covering northeast Ohio in a few areas (including my home) so I'm fairly happy now.
I also use 2-3GB of data a month, with peaks of 5GB on certain months that I stream music more. I do use Sprint's unlimited for what it's worth.
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I'm in Toledo, Ohio and get perfect coverage with Aio. Like I said, they're owned and operated by AT&T so you'll get pretty much the same service.
Currently on S4 with unlimited data....is it worth losing unlimited to get the S6 right now?
was goign to do edge (have a few other phones on plan), but mine is still unlimited right now...
My monthly would be pretty much identical....but with shared 8 GB. Other phones barely use data...
Thanks in advance!!!
If you're in the US, just get an S6 at Best Buy and either get a BB credit card or use their payment plan to get it off contract. It's basically the same as getting the edge contract and you get to keep your unlimted data.
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If I use edge....they do give you a credit of 25 bucks every month.
Hmm.....If I'm bringing my own device....shouldn't they be reducing my monthly?
docluv01 said:
Currently on S4 with unlimited data....is it worth losing unlimited to get the S6 right now?
was goign to do edge (have a few other phones on plan), but mine is still unlimited right now...
My monthly would be pretty much identical....but with shared 8 GB. Other phones barely use data...
Thanks in advance!!!
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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If I use edge....they do give you a credit of 25 bucks every month.
Hmm.....If I'm bringing my own device....shouldn't they be reducing my monthly?
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Yes. I continue to bring my own phone so I'm considered month to month. Therefore I get a $25 discount.
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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I think I've read through that entire thread like 5 times, so much good info in there.
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WOW!!!
Thank you!
deranger said:
There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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Hi, SO by using the BB method, you kept the UDP, but you were extended out by 2 yrs?
On my family plan, I also have a basic line that is upgradeable. It seems that if I use one of those methods...I don't get stuck on 2 yr on the basic plan, but also, dont get stuck on 2 yr plan on my UDP. Do you know this to be true? I've read multiple.....can't seem to figure that part out...
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
https://slickdeals.net/f/7743625-ve...-avoid-a-2-year-data-plan-on-a-basic-line?v=1
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docluv01 said:
Hi, SO by using the BB method, you kept the UDP, but you were extended out by 2 yrs?
On my family plan, I also have a basic line that is upgradeable. It seems that if I use one of those methods...I don't get stuck on 2 yr on the basic plan, but also, dont get stuck on 2 yr plan on my UDP. Do you know this to be true? I've read multiple.....can't seem to figure that part out...
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Yes. I paid subsidized pricing ($299 for 64 GB S6) and my contract end date was pushed out 2 years, while keeping my Nationwide 700 plan with unlimited data. Depending on what method you use, you will extend your contract out another two years. Being on contract with unlimited data is a GOOD thing. If you're off contract, they can drop your unlimited data anytime for any reason. If you're on contract, dropping your UDP would mean they broke the contract, and thus they would be forfeiting the early cancellation fees, which is a significant chunk of money for a subsidized S6. Read that first post all the way through a couple times, figure out which method works for your situation, and then read those instructions like 10 times. There are different optimal strategies to keep your UDP depending on what your plan looks like.
edit: Best Buy is also running a $100 gift card promotion for Verizon upgrades to S6, just got mine today. Subsidized pricing, $100 to spend at BB, and I still kept my UDP, simply amazing.
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There is no need to lose unlimited data or pay full price!!! Get the phone from Best Buy online, SHIP IT TO YOUR HOUSE, NOT IN STORE PICKUP, then swap the sim from your S4 to your S6 BEFORE POWERING THE S6 ON. Destroy the new SIM that comes with the S6. You will have to cut down the S4 SIM to NanoSIM size but it's super easy. I literally did this today and I have a subsidized S6 64GB ($299) on unlimited data and my contract extended 2 years.
See the following link for a number of ways you can upgrade and keep your unlimited, even if you only have a single line!
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Remember the SIM you have in your S4 WILL NOT fit in the S6
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chrisj22 said:
Remember the SIM you have in your S4 WILL NOT fit in the S6
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It's trivial to print out a template, mark your cuts in permanent marker, and cut it down to size with a pair of good scissors. Some sandpaper for fine tuning (or careful work with sharp, sturdy scissors) was all I needed to make it fit perfectly. You can also purchase a SIM cutter tool from Amazon for <$10 if you don't trust yourself hacking up your SIM. Take note that you should not go to a Verizon corporate store and ask for a new SIM as they will notice the pending equipment activation on your account and most likely drop your UDP. People have had luck paying an authorized retailer for a new SIM, there should be examples in the earlier linked Slickdeals thread. Really though, it's quite simple to cut down the SIM with scissors so long as you take your time and don't overcut it. The actual chip is tiny, what you see on the outside are just contacts.
deranger said:
It's trivial to print out a template, mark your cuts in permanent marker, and cut it down to size with a pair of good scissors. Some sandpaper for fine tuning (or careful work with sharp, sturdy scissors) was all I needed to make it fit perfectly. You can also purchase a SIM cutter tool from Amazon for <$10 if you don't trust yourself hacking up your SIM. Take note that you should not go to a Verizon corporate store and ask for a new SIM as they will notice the pending equipment activation on your account and most likely drop your UDP. People have had luck paying an authorized retailer for a new SIM, there should be examples in the earlier linked Slickdeals thread. Really though, it's quite simple to cut down the SIM with scissors so long as you take your time and don't overcut it. The actual chip is tiny, what you see on the outside are just contacts.
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Or being I believe he was getting the phone online from the carrier it will come with a SIM Preloaded in the phone
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Or being I believe he was getting the phone online from the carrier it will come with a SIM Preloaded in the phone
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You're not reading the thread at all. If you turn on the phone with the SIM from Best Buy in it, you will instantly lose UDP and not be able to get it back. You MUST destroy the new SIM before you initially power on the phone (even initial charging) when doing this method of getting a subsidized upgrade without losing your unlimited data. If the phone comes on at all, Verizon reads the new SIM as being activated, and your unlimited data is gone forever . It is crucial to take out and destroy the new SIM ASAP.
Does this work with upgrading from a S3? Meaning, will the SIM from a S3 work after trimming?
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
docluv01 said:
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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I believe you can, but it would be easier to walk into a Verizon corporate store and get it there for free on the spot. Did it a couple weeks ago no issue coming from an s5.
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Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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Sure, but why not do the BB method and get it at subsidized pricing? You also get the benefit of being on contract, which means if they kill your UDP (which they are free to do at any time), they will have to let you out of the early termination fee. You could also walk into a VZW corporate store and buy an S6 at full price to keep your unlimited, but be aware that VZW has the right to kill your UDP at any time should they feel the need to do so.
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Does this work with upgrading from a S3? Meaning, will the SIM from a S3 work after trimming?
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To be able to cut down your SIM for the S6, you must currently have a 4G LTE SIM. I personally never owned an S3 so I am not sure if you have a 4G LTE SIM in it or not. If you do, simply do the BB method and trim your SIM. If not, there are methods to get around this, check the thread I linked earlier.
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Yes. I paid subsidized pricing ($299 for 64 GB S6) and my contract end date was pushed out 2 years, while keeping my Nationwide 700 plan with unlimited data. Depending on what method you use, you will extend your contract out another two years. Being on contract with unlimited data is a GOOD thing. If you're off contract, they can drop your unlimited data anytime for any reason. If you're on contract, dropping your UDP would mean they broke the contract, and thus they would be forfeiting the early cancellation fees, which is a significant chunk of money for a subsidized S6. Read that first post all the way through a couple times, figure out which method works for your situation, and then read those instructions like 10 times. There are different optimal strategies to keep your UDP depending on what your plan looks like.
edit: Best Buy is also running a $100 gift card promotion for Verizon upgrades to S6, just got mine today. Subsidized pricing, $100 to spend at BB, and I still kept my UDP, simply amazing.
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What you said above is actually not true, unless BB gives you a different print out and does things differently. As for the way Verizon does things, The contract terms you are signing up for do not include unlimited data. If you read the terms you are signing up for, no where on there does it say you are signing a 2 year deal with unlimited data. At any point in time, whether you are on or off contract, Verizon could swap it over as there have not been 2 year contracts for unlimited data in quite some time. They have chosen not to based on the outrage that came previously when they tried to make some changes to the unlimited plans. (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data)
I have seen a few people who swapped their upgrade to another line, used in on that line and then just switched the phone back to theirs. While this did keep their UDP, nowhere in the 2 year contract agreement was it mentioned that they were getting UDP. In fact it was quite the contrary. It would show the 2GB data plan for 30$ which would be activated on line B while line A was just getting the contract extension.
docluv01 said:
Let me ask another stupid question, If I buy a s6 off amazon, paying full price. Can I call verizon to send me a new nano sim, and not worry about them killing my unlimited?
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When you buy the phone full retail and go to put it on your line using my Verizon, one step in the process will say your sim is not compatible/or it'll ask you if you want to order a new sim card. Simply click I want a new sim card and within 2 days a new nano sim card will be at your door.
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What you said above is actually not true, unless BB gives you a different print out and does things differently. As for the way Verizon does things, The contract terms you are signing up for do not include unlimited data. If you read the terms you are signing up for, no where on there does it say you are signing a 2 year deal with unlimited data. At any point in time, whether you are on or off contract, Verizon could swap it over as there have not been 2 year contracts for unlimited data in quite some time. They have chosen not to based on the outrage that came previously when they tried to make some changes to the unlimited plans. (http://www.theverge.com/2014/10/1/6882339/verizon-calls-off-throttling-unlimited-lte-data)
I have seen a few people who swapped their upgrade to another line, used in on that line and then just switched the phone back to theirs. While this did keep their UDP, nowhere in the 2 year contract agreement was it mentioned that they were getting UDP. In fact it was quite the contrary. It would show the 2GB data plan for 30$ which would be activated on line B while line A was just getting the contract extension.
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My contract end date is 06/16/2017 and I still have my UDP. Read the thread I linked earlier before you tell me that what I said isn't true. People have been doing alternate upgrades (4ever) and the BB method for quite some time now, and you get to be on-contract and keep your UDP. Doing the BB method doesn't require you to have two lines on the same account either, so the scenario you describe in your second paragraph doesn't apply to this method of getting a subsidized upgrade on-contract while keeping UDP.
Furthermore you don't need to get a new SIM card so long as you already have a 4G LTE SIM. I took the SIM out of my S4, cut it down to nanoSIM size, and put it directly into my new S6 without any incompatible messages or a need to get a new one from VZW. If you already have a 4G LTE SIM you don't need to get a new one. If you do the BB method and order a new SIM kiss goodbye to your UDP. You must reuse your old SIM in order to keep UDP.
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My contract end date is 06/16/2017 and I still have my UDP. Read the thread I linked earlier before you tell me that what I said isn't true. People have been doing alternate upgrades (4ever) and the BB method for quite some time now, and you get to be on-contract and keep your UDP. Doing the BB method doesn't require you to have two lines on the same account either, so the scenario you describe in your second paragraph doesn't apply to this method of getting a subsidized upgrade on-contract while keeping UDP.
Furthermore you don't need to get a new SIM card so long as you already have a 4G LTE SIM. I took the SIM out of my S4, cut it down to nanoSIM size, and put it directly into my new S6 without any incompatible messages or a need to get a new one from VZW. If you already have a 4G LTE SIM you don't need to get a new one. If you do the BB method and order a new SIM kiss goodbye to your UDP. You must reuse your old SIM in order to keep UDP.
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I think I was not clear and I am sorry about that. Your contract end date and what is actually guaranteed by that contract are 2 different things. Look at the actual contract terms. Yes, you can be in a contract with UDP in today's world on verizon, that happens with the example I gave above. The contract you are signing is an extension of service. If done the way in my example, the line its activated on (The line you transferred your upgrade to, line B) will get a data extension contract while the line that transferred the upgrade (line A) will get a service use extension (yes there are now 2 types of contracts). This was changed last September I believe so that if someone tried to transfer their upgrade to a non smartphone line, use the upgrade, then transfer the phone back over to their line, the data plan would stick to the line it was activated on when in the past it would just drop off.
You are correct, you did extend your contract, but that UDP feature is listed nowhere on the actual documents you signed thus changing/removing or doing whatever Verizon wants to do is in no way a violation of your extended service. they are still providing you the service you signed up for. I am not sure when the last time you could actually sign up for unlimited data was using their plan system, but that was definitely more than 3 years ago. I am unsure how these upgrades are processed via best buy and what their contract term sheets look like when printed out, so I can't comment on that process. I have seen Verizon's and seen people who extended their contract and nowhere on that printout is unlimited data listed as being guaranteed for the contract, but it did list the 2GB plan or w/e plan was picked on it. The reason Verizon is not touching this for now is because of the bad press they got previously when trying to modify the unlimited accounts and add throttling. I am sure within the next couple of years though, all unlimited plans will be forced out. It will suck to lose it and its at that time maybe i'll give t-mobile a try.
Also, requesting the sim in the method I put above will in no way effect his UDP. It sends you a nano sim card so you do not have to cut with the current features that are on your account. Yes if you cut your sim card you won't get any incompatible messages because you are not trying to activate the phone through the my Verizon feature. That will only come up when going through and trying activate/change the phone on your account using their website.