I just looked in the Motorola website and it looks like the moto g 4g LTE is finally in stock and ready to ship out. With that being said I'm ready to purchase one but with one question comes to my mind.. Since both the moto g and moto g 4g LTE are identical besides the 4g LTE and sdcard support.. Does anybody know if the roms/rooting method will be the same? All the Roms out for the moto g will work on the moto g 4g LTE? Or is there a slight difference where that won't work?
I Donno about the rooting, but it's not really in Stock : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772304&page=2
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marcviado said:
I just looked in the Motorola website and it looks like the moto g 4g LTE is finally in stock and ready to ship out. With that being said I'm ready to purchase one but with one question comes to my mind.. Since both the moto g and moto g 4g LTE are identical besides the 4g LTE and sdcard support.. Does anybody know if the roms/rooting method will be the same? All the Roms out for the moto g will work on the moto g 4g LTE? Or is there a slight difference where that won't work?
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We don't know yet since no one has the hardware. But it is likely they will be separate ROMs as the radio will probably be different. And it is going to be using different drivers since the chipset for the radio is different.
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I just ordered a Moto G LTE today to replace my old SGS3 for T mobile. I have a question regarding the Moto G vs the Moto G LTE variant. I have read some threads on this board about battery life, and it seems the Moto G gets INCREDIBLE battery life. I have a huge fan of great battery life. By getting the Moto G LTE variant will my battery be greatly reduced? Is T mobile's LTE that much faster than H+?
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I just ordered a Moto G LTE today to replace my old SGS3 for T mobile. I have a question regarding the Moto G vs the Moto G LTE variant. I have read some threads on this board about battery life, and it seems the Moto G gets INCREDIBLE battery life. I have a huge fan of great battery life. By getting the Moto G LTE variant will my battery be greatly reduced? Is T mobile's LTE that much faster than H+?
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your battery life i'll probably be lower and yes lte is far better than h+
gabreek said:
your battery life i'll probably be lower and yes lte is far better than h+
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So would you recommend the LTE model over the normal Moto G?
toobz said:
So would you recommend the LTE model over the normal Moto G?
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LTE model, you'll have better internet and sdcard storage (the only 2 problems of the normal moto g) haha
I've found all this talk of bad battery life on LTE to be dubious.
Early LTE devices certainly did have bad battery life, especially because their LTE modems were on dedicated chips instead of on the SoC itself. But more recent ones? I haven't noticed any significant difference running it either way.
Of course, there are plenty of variables and a phone trying to maintain a bad LTE connection versus a good HSPA one might expend more energy, YMMV.
But if you get the LTE variant, you have the option to try both, and the SD card slot is a nice thing to have IMO. The LTE variant also has pentaband HSPA, which will come in handy if you travel abroad.
I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset. Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset. Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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Firstly this belongs in the Q/A section.
Now about your question, I don't it's possible since the two devices have a different chip set. The 4G variant must be having the 4G modem and the required files to make 4G connection possible. But, I can be wrong also.
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I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset. Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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from my very basic understanding the normal moto g doesn't posses the modem or radios for it.. other wise someone would had flashed it by now, like the guy before me.. I can be very wrong.
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I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset. Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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learned this the hard way, but it seems that moto g LTE uses a higher version chipset than ours, even though both are snapdragon 400. We dont have the modem and also.. no gyro.
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I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset.
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That's just wrong. The normal Moto G features a MSM 8226 processor whereas the Moto G LTE uses an MSM 8926. The 8226 doesn't have an LTE modem.
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Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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Simple answer is: no.
Just checked their chip sets, they are the same!http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_4g-6355.php Moto G 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g-5831.php Moto g 3g
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Just checked their chip sets, they are the same!http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_4g-6355.php Moto G 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g-5831.php Moto g 3g
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That is simply wrong. We know they aren't the same.
Simple Answer: NO
Normal MotoG uses MSM8626 which is similar to 4G enabled MSM8926, but the fuse is blown during manufacturing disables the 4G LTE and makes it 3G only.
There is no way you could enable the LTE with Qualcom blows the FUSE.
MSM8926 -> 4G fuse blown -> MSM8626
1 more. you need 4G antenna tranciever Chip to get proper signal for the Modem which is not present in Moto G
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Just checked their chip sets, they are the same!http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_4g-6355.php Moto G 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g-5831.php Moto g 3g
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Moto g - 8226
Moto g 4g - 8926
Gsmarena is not a reliable source.
I just bought an brand new unlocked GSM LTE Moto G (first gen) today. My thought at start was strictly for WiFi and FM Radio. But I stumbled on the Qualcomm SW mod using QPST and a few other apps for the regular Moto G HSPA+ version. So my question is does the LTE version have the CDMA radio present? I know the mod can't create a radio or connection to a network if the HW isn't there. I figure if it's based off the original Moto G (like the XT1028) it might have the hardware but be sw blocked. I checked the radio data and it's 2 different radios in both. But just wondering......If the Nexus 5 could do it with out "offical" CDMA bands maybe this Moto G LTE can too. I have Verizon Wireless and would like to use my Micro SIM card in this phone.
Ideas?
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I just bought an brand new unlocked GSM LTE Moto G (first gen) today. My thought at start was strictly for WiFi and FM Radio. But I stumbled on the Qualcomm SW mod using QPST and a few other apps for the regular Moto G HSPA+ version. So my question is does the LTE version have the CDMA radio present? I know the mod can't create a radio or connection to a network if the HW isn't there. I figure if it's based off the original Moto G (like the XT1028) it might have the hardware but be sw blocked. I checked the radio data and it's 2 different radios in both. But just wondering......If the Nexus 5 could do it with out "offical" CDMA bands maybe this Moto G LTE can too. I have Verizon Wireless and would like to use my Micro SIM card in this phone.
Ideas?
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I'm interested in a similar thing for a U.S. Cellular Moto G LTE XT-1042 to see if I can enable the GSM radio bands on it. I know the Sprint Moto X has GSM capability which is partially used for the LTE coverage along with their mini-sim and since the US Cellular Moto G LTE XT-1042 also uses a mini-sim for the LTE coverage it stands to reason that it could work too using the Qualcomm SW mod.
I actually bought one off of Ebay with a Bad ESN that can't be activated on the US Cellular wireless network just to tinker around with. If it works I'll try to do a forum post pulling together all of the forum posts with information that I used to get it to work. If it doesn't work I got it for $48 dollars and can use it as a mini wifi only tablet for streaming music, playing games,etc.
Did it work?
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Did it work?
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I do Have Motorola Moto G 4G US version
Does it support LTE 2300? or how Can i enable it in anyway?
I have had my Moto G 3rd gen for about a week now and I am using AT&T. I've had decent coverage and have been able to use LTE but I am using the default APN that the phone provides when adding a SIM card. I also notice that when I am not using LTE the phone drops back to 3G.
I have not found any information about the correct APNs for my carrier. Is HSPA+ supported for this phone on AT&T and are the default APNs the best setting to use?
I don't have the phone, but it could be that with the stock ROM, it will only show 3G even if you are actually using HSPA+. I am using the 1st gen Moto G, and that is what it showed until we got lollipop. Now it shows H when we are on HSPA/HSPA+. Maybe Motorola went back to that on the 3rd gen G? You can find out by going into settings and then looking at the SIM settings and check if you are on UMTS (3G) out HSPA (3G also but with better data speeds).
Edit: oh , and yes, the phone does support the HSPA bands on AT & T).
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I don't have the phone, but it could be that with the stock ROM, it will only show 3G even if you are actually using HSPA+. I am using the 1st gen Moto G, and that is what it showed until we got lollipop. Now it shows H when we are on HSPA/HSPA+. Maybe Motorola went back to that on the 3rd gen G? You can find out by going into settings and then looking at the SIM settings and check if you are on UMTS (3G) out HSPA (3G also but with better data speeds).
Edit: oh , and yes, the phone does support the HSPA bands on AT & T).
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Thanks for the info. I checked in the settings when my status bar says 3G and I can confirm that I am on HSPA+. As far as APNs go, is it best to stick with the default configuration or is there a place where I can find other APNs?
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Do you get descent LTE? You apparently get good H+, so I'd just leave well enough alone.
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Do you get descent LTE? You apparently get good H+, so I'd just leave well enough alone.
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Yes LTE is fairly stable. Thanks for your help!
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