Moto G LTE question - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just ordered a Moto G LTE today to replace my old SGS3 for T mobile. I have a question regarding the Moto G vs the Moto G LTE variant. I have read some threads on this board about battery life, and it seems the Moto G gets INCREDIBLE battery life. I have a huge fan of great battery life. By getting the Moto G LTE variant will my battery be greatly reduced? Is T mobile's LTE that much faster than H+?
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toobz said:
I just ordered a Moto G LTE today to replace my old SGS3 for T mobile. I have a question regarding the Moto G vs the Moto G LTE variant. I have read some threads on this board about battery life, and it seems the Moto G gets INCREDIBLE battery life. I have a huge fan of great battery life. By getting the Moto G LTE variant will my battery be greatly reduced? Is T mobile's LTE that much faster than H+?
Thank you
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your battery life i'll probably be lower and yes lte is far better than h+

gabreek said:
your battery life i'll probably be lower and yes lte is far better than h+
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So would you recommend the LTE model over the normal Moto G?

toobz said:
So would you recommend the LTE model over the normal Moto G?
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LTE model, you'll have better internet and sdcard storage (the only 2 problems of the normal moto g) haha

I've found all this talk of bad battery life on LTE to be dubious.
Early LTE devices certainly did have bad battery life, especially because their LTE modems were on dedicated chips instead of on the SoC itself. But more recent ones? I haven't noticed any significant difference running it either way.
Of course, there are plenty of variables and a phone trying to maintain a bad LTE connection versus a good HSPA one might expend more energy, YMMV.
But if you get the LTE variant, you have the option to try both, and the SD card slot is a nice thing to have IMO. The LTE variant also has pentaband HSPA, which will come in handy if you travel abroad.

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[Q] Moto G vs Moto G 4G LTE

I just looked in the Motorola website and it looks like the moto g 4g LTE is finally in stock and ready to ship out. With that being said I'm ready to purchase one but with one question comes to my mind.. Since both the moto g and moto g 4g LTE are identical besides the 4g LTE and sdcard support.. Does anybody know if the roms/rooting method will be the same? All the Roms out for the moto g will work on the moto g 4g LTE? Or is there a slight difference where that won't work?
I Donno about the rooting, but it's not really in Stock : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2772304&page=2
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marcviado said:
I just looked in the Motorola website and it looks like the moto g 4g LTE is finally in stock and ready to ship out. With that being said I'm ready to purchase one but with one question comes to my mind.. Since both the moto g and moto g 4g LTE are identical besides the 4g LTE and sdcard support.. Does anybody know if the roms/rooting method will be the same? All the Roms out for the moto g will work on the moto g 4g LTE? Or is there a slight difference where that won't work?
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We don't know yet since no one has the hardware. But it is likely they will be separate ROMs as the radio will probably be different. And it is going to be using different drivers since the chipset for the radio is different.

[Q] Cant the Moto G 3g go 4G?

I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset. Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
mashaal95 said:
I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset. Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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Firstly this belongs in the Q/A section.
Now about your question, I don't it's possible since the two devices have a different chip set. The 4G variant must be having the 4G modem and the required files to make 4G connection possible. But, I can be wrong also.
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I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset. Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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from my very basic understanding the normal moto g doesn't posses the modem or radios for it.. other wise someone would had flashed it by now, like the guy before me.. I can be very wrong.
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mashaal95 said:
I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset. Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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learned this the hard way, but it seems that moto g LTE uses a higher version chipset than ours, even though both are snapdragon 400. We dont have the modem and also.. no gyro.
mashaal95 said:
I think we all know that the chipset is capable of running 4G speeds, as both the models (3G and 4G) have the same chipset.
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That's just wrong. The normal Moto G features a MSM 8226 processor whereas the Moto G LTE uses an MSM 8926. The 8226 doesn't have an LTE modem.
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Now, the Nexus 4 had a 4G hack wherein the device was able to run on LTE! Now, my question is, cant we hack the Moto 3G to give us LTE speeds?
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Simple answer is: no.
Just checked their chip sets, they are the same!http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_4g-6355.php Moto G 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g-5831.php Moto g 3g
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Just checked their chip sets, they are the same!http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_4g-6355.php Moto G 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g-5831.php Moto g 3g
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That is simply wrong. We know they aren't the same.
Simple Answer: NO
Normal MotoG uses MSM8626 which is similar to 4G enabled MSM8926, but the fuse is blown during manufacturing disables the 4G LTE and makes it 3G only.
There is no way you could enable the LTE with Qualcom blows the FUSE.
MSM8926 -> 4G fuse blown -> MSM8626
1 more. you need 4G antenna tranciever Chip to get proper signal for the Modem which is not present in Moto G
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Just checked their chip sets, they are the same!http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g_4g-6355.php Moto G 4g
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_moto_g-5831.php Moto g 3g
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(system_on_chip)
Moto g - 8226
Moto g 4g - 8926
Gsmarena is not a reliable source.

Any advantage to LTE model on T-Mobile?

Simple question I think. I'm looking at getting a Moto G as a cheap phone for my Mother who is new to smartphones. I'm wondering is their any advantage for me to get the LTE version. It will be on the T-Mobile network.
From what I've read the LTE model supports the two primary bands (2 & 4) used by T-Mobile but not band 12 for the new network they are working on. I don't feel this is a big deal for her however. What is confusing me is the specs listed for the Moto G (2nd Gen) say it can reach speeds of 21/5Mbps and the same speeds on the LTE version. I'm starting to think the LTE version and the normal Moto G would end up on the same connection on the T-Mobile network but I'm not sure. I don't want to spend more for the LTE for no actual advantage.
Thanks.
@JayG30
You get the added Micro SD slot on the Moto G LTE unlike the standard Moto G. If your in the UK you can if you want to move over to EE which owns both T-Mobile and Orange (I myself am Ex-Orange Customer!) that way you'll get the 4G speeds. I did that on PAYGO Orange to EE and you can i think do the same on Contract not sure.

Moto G and APN Settings

I have had my Moto G 3rd gen for about a week now and I am using AT&T. I've had decent coverage and have been able to use LTE but I am using the default APN that the phone provides when adding a SIM card. I also notice that when I am not using LTE the phone drops back to 3G.
I have not found any information about the correct APNs for my carrier. Is HSPA+ supported for this phone on AT&T and are the default APNs the best setting to use?
I don't have the phone, but it could be that with the stock ROM, it will only show 3G even if you are actually using HSPA+. I am using the 1st gen Moto G, and that is what it showed until we got lollipop. Now it shows H when we are on HSPA/HSPA+. Maybe Motorola went back to that on the 3rd gen G? You can find out by going into settings and then looking at the SIM settings and check if you are on UMTS (3G) out HSPA (3G also but with better data speeds).
Edit: oh , and yes, the phone does support the HSPA bands on AT & T).
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alfick3 said:
I don't have the phone, but it could be that with the stock ROM, it will only show 3G even if you are actually using HSPA+. I am using the 1st gen Moto G, and that is what it showed until we got lollipop. Now it shows H when we are on HSPA/HSPA+. Maybe Motorola went back to that on the 3rd gen G? You can find out by going into settings and then looking at the SIM settings and check if you are on UMTS (3G) out HSPA (3G also but with better data speeds).
Edit: oh , and yes, the phone does support the HSPA bands on AT & T).
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Thanks for the info. I checked in the settings when my status bar says 3G and I can confirm that I am on HSPA+. As far as APNs go, is it best to stick with the default configuration or is there a place where I can find other APNs?
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Do you get descent LTE? You apparently get good H+, so I'd just leave well enough alone.
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alfick3 said:
Do you get descent LTE? You apparently get good H+, so I'd just leave well enough alone.
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Yes LTE is fairly stable. Thanks for your help!
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Can't get 3G and 4G on my Moto X 2015

Hey everyone, I just bought Moto G 2015 as a backup device, and it really is a nice little device. After setting up the phone I noticed that it always stays on 2G and never goes to 3G or 4G, despite having ample cellular network strength in my area. I searched internet a bit and found that my phone, XT1548 is CDMA variant and lacks the necessary bands for connectivity in Asian markets.
So, I wanted to inquire if this can be changed by flashing modem files of Asian variant of Moto G, as I once did with my Moto X 2014, or this phone lacks the necessary hardware to connect to Asian networks.
I'd really appreciate your help.
Regards.
hamzaalijoiyah said:
Hey everyone, I just bought Moto G 2015 as a backup device, and it really is a nice little device. After setting up the phone I noticed that it always stays on 2G and never goes to 3G or 4G, despite having ample cellular network strength in my area. I searched internet a bit and found that my phone, XT1548 is CDMA variant and lacks the necessary bands for connectivity in Asian markets.
So, I wanted to inquire if this can be changed by flashing modem files of Asian variant of Moto G, as I once did with my Moto X 2014, or this phone lacks the necessary hardware to connect to Asian networks.
I'd really appreciate your help.
Regards.
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Nope... The XT1548 CDMA model is will not work in Asian markets, or any GSM market except basic GSM connectivity because of a hardware difference in that particular model that is intended only for use on CDMA networks, unlike your Moto X which uses the same hardware but different radio firmware.
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Nope... The XT1548 CDMA model is will not work in Asian markets, or any GSM market except basic GSM connectivity because of a hardware difference in that particular model that is intended only for use on CDMA networks, unlike your Moto X which uses the same hardware but different radio firmware.
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yeah, thats what I thought. Thanks for your reply

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