No more Samsung. Which manufacturers aren't as slimy as Samsung & Sony about rooting? - General Topics

No more Samsung. Which manufacturers aren't as slimy as Samsung & Sony about rooting?
Hello all and welcome to my first thread, nice to be part of the community.
Now then I've Rooted my SG4 and flashed various ROMs and had lots of fun doing so.
Unfortunately for me, that device was stolen and I was given a new one.
Upon flashing that device I had realized this one had security I wasnt familiar with, KNOX.
(Not a post asking about the KNOX or Galaxy)
Anyhow upon further research of this unknown function, it is the devils bane to all Samsung rooters.
I find the creation of KNOX enough to encourage me to not purchase another Samsung device.
And now the plot unfolds
Id like a powerful phone that I can root with little consequence (Other than bricking or corrupting my phone)
While rooting voids warranties, at least it was possible to reset the counters in the past. (B.K)
The LG G2/3, Nexus 5 & HTC One seem to be the best devices fitting my criteria.
What phone would you choose for your rooting fun?​

I have faith that someone will find a way to work around KNOX. I've been exploring different routes to getting root on my GS4 with 4.4.2. I never would have updated if I would have known. I guess I should have researched Kit Kat a little more.
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eddyhall said:
I have faith that someone will find a way to work around KNOX. I've been exploring different routes to getting root on my GS4 with 4.4.2. I never would have updated if I would have known. I guess I should have researched Kit Kat a little more.
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Well I would stick it out with Samsung, but since it won't end with Knox, I'm jumping ship now.
I'm leaning a lot towards the g3 when it comes out. Same processor as the s5 but better everywhere else.
I just wonder if LG, or HTC have contingencies like Samsung does.

well thats all very sad. Samsung is turning into the new apple, and if LG lags on support, IDK about Sony phones never considered buying one.
That just leaves what HTC and Motorola
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?

If you want something that will remain anti-root security free, and is both powerfull and affordable, as well as has massive official and custom developement support, the Nexus is the obvious choice.

Sorry folks, there are already several areas for this..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2229761 are just a couple.

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I am rich (software)

can some make this ridiculous SW (misspellings and all) for our devices, pleeaaaaase.
[sarcasm]i would love show-off this mockware to all the of those who aren't as rich as me.[/sarcasm]
eight people actually bought it? I guess that means we have eight CONFIRMED idiots on this planet.
wonder how many unconfirmed
i suspect it's mind boggling
LOL. I saw this on giz. I was ROFL'ing for like 5 minutes. And did you guys read about the dude who "accidentally" bought it? LOL
NO... We have more than 8 idiots. You have to include ALL THE APPLE STAFF who approved it in the first place. They probably only took it off when the 8 idiots complained and demanded their refund for the $1000 they spent.
This definitively looks like nice piece of software. I hope someone can develop such a useful and good looking application for our Windows Mobile devices. Otherwise, i might seriously reconsider buying an iPhone.
P.S.:
Congrats to developer of this original app. Nice way of earning few thousands $$ for few seconds of work. Way to go, good thinking!
And all this just proves that iPhone is just a toy for really rich people and true high-tech work of art only for idiots.
"I am rich" for Windows Mobile
Thanks to Julien we, WM users, finally have the chance to try this great app.
It looks like it's still in development. It's not fullscreen yet, but it's still free, so if you want to try this fine piece of software, now's the time.
Download here
YYYYYYEEEEESSSSSS! I just saw it here:
DL'd it and immediately ported it to my "iPhone"
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i am, though, disappointed that the 'deserv' was spelled "correctly." argh, oh well. it's well worth the $2,000.00 i donated for this little gem.
Well, I guess it is still in development so it has some minor issues. I'm sure that fullscreen and misspelling will be added as soon as possible. But this is promising start and we will soon be as sophisticated as iPhone users. I also think that many iPhone users will migrate to WM devices since this app is no longer available in Apple's App Store, so we can expect at least few tousands new xda users in next few days.
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eight people actually bought it? I guess that means we have eight CONFIRMED idiots on this planet.
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I think the number of confirmed idiots on the planet is more like the total number of people who bought an iPhone.
Oops! I said the quiet part loud again!
Myke...
mysha said:
I think the number of confirmed idiots on the planet is more like the total number of people who bought an iPhone.
Oops! I said the quiet part loud again!
Myke...
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Hah, whatever you say chief.

A Dead Horse Yes but still some info none the Less

I know this has been discussed and talked about in the past but every new bit will hopefully get us closer to a source for more fantastic roms to be made. The article made me laugh with the first line of the article but like i said hopefully there is some truth behind it.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2380471,00.asp?kc=PCRSS03069TX1K0001121&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ziffdavis%2Fpcmag%2Fbreakingnews+%28PCMag.com+Breaking+News%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
Those Froyo upgrades are coming real soon now, a Samsung exec repeats.
BARCELONA—Samsung's chief strategy officer said Froyo updates for Samsung's Galaxy S phones are "imminent" and explained why the company chose Nvidia to supply a processor for its Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet in an interview here at Mobile World Congress.
Samsung has sold more than 10 million Galaxy S smartphones, but most of the ones in the US are still stuck on the older Android 2.1 OS. The 2.2 update is finally really, really close, Khan said.
"Major carrier upgrades are imminent. They're right around the corner," he said.
Samsung has come under a lot of criticism for not delivering the updates, which the company originally promised would arrive in 2010. Future updates will come more promptly, Khan said.
MWC (Mobile World Congress)
"We're competitive and we plan on remaining competitive. We're like to be as quick as possible," he said. "The only way we can prove ourselves is by delivering future upgrades."
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Laughing their asses off
We have heard this for how long now? Not flaming the OP, but Samsung that continues to regurgitate the same old line.
So, what part of this "info" is of any use at all? Same crap, same Craptivate.
#neveragain
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wheres the deadhorse.jpg?
They have been saying that a FROYO release is really close for almost a year and now 2.4 is to be released by the end of this summer. Do you really think that 2.2 is any closer to being released after another article was put out to the world.
KHHHAAAAANNNNN!!!
I've read this whole article a few times now and it never says the guy's first name, just calls him Khan.
The Epic forum has a thread running wild with sprint official retail screenshots from actual employees saying froyo will be released 2-21-2011.
Damn, it is gone now. Disappeared! I mean deleted not locked.
These threads need to be deleted this is worthless ****

Ain't that pathetic..

a 4" screen, 4G (LTE) data connection and the ability to have 5 icons in a row. Sounds familiar? It took Apple 5 years and their best minds research to make an SGS 4G...
So who needs to sue who now?
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That's the thing about Apple. Their most current success is mostly due to marketing, and not their product. You can give Apple consumers a iPhone 4 (or whatever the previous version is), tell them it's an iPhone 5, and they'll believe you. Not only would they believe you, but they'll swear it's better and pay full price for it. Apple is genius, really, but not ethical or innovative.
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Yep. They must be doing something wrong. lol
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They're not the smartest, nor the brightest, but they sure are one hell of an "ARTIST".
If you know what I'm sayin'
Con Artist, duh!
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Interesting, this coming from the same man who years later would sue other companies claiming they stole their ideas..
"Isn't it ironic? dont ya think?" :laugh:
If you ask me all these patent suits just show that apple feels very threatened and instead of competing the good ole fashion way they are playing dirty and being little bit**es.
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Apple releases software updates for three-year-old phones and has yet to ship a phone with carrier-mandated apps. They were also the first to make a usable touch-based smartphone, without which Android would be nothing more than a BlackBerry clone (remember me?).
They're alright in my book.
Actually: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_was_the_first_touch_screen_phone_invented
sutexibunsu said:
Apple releases software updates for three-year-old phones and has yet to ship a phone with carrier-mandated apps. They were also the first to make a usable touch-based smartphone, without which Android would be nothing more than a BlackBerry clone (remember me?).
They're alright in my book.
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Their updates are so minimal even a 3 year old phone can run them. That's a bad thing. Android updates make major changes. And not only that, many of the older iphones run stripped down versions of ios, like how the 3gs can't have siri.
the earpods took 3 years of r&d.
Android fanbois vs. Apple fanbois... ATTACK!

Official kitkat for s advnace !!!!

With Android 4.4 KitKat, Google is aiming to bring a better Android experience to the masses through features such as reduced memory consumption on low-memory (512MB) and low-cost devices, and that has had a lot of people hoping manufacturers will bring the new version of Android to some of their mid-range devices that may not otherwise be eligible for another update. Well, according to an image we received in our inbox, Samsung is thinking of doing just that, and is considering the update for some of its mid-range and low-end devices.
In a document SAMSUNG has decided to release KITKAT 4.4 Update for SAMSUNG GALAXY S ADVANCE in near future.
You can find the name of SAMSUNG GALAXY S ADVANCE in KITKAT UPDATE LIST down below :
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SOURCE : sammobile
Another thread??? C'mon guys ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557588
How many threads:banghead::banghead:. Please post in the previous threads or in the off-topic thread.
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R_a_z_v_a_n said:
Another thread??? C'mon guys ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2557588
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Hello. The post you mentioned was opened by me. I reported to delete the post. Just wanted to tell everyone this news. Cheers.
they are only considering it and it will take months to bring it as before this many newer devices are in the queue , and i am pretty sure before that we will have custom roms very much usable based on 4.4 ....
brother,
the source also says that samsung 18 month policy of update n our s advance have already covered 20 months so.....chances are getting lesser day by day....
According to this document, s3 mini, fame and s4 mini will be getting updates too, and s4 mini is a very good candidate
Now our phone was released on 2012, our phone is old in the eyes of Samsung...
Yeah... they stopped making updates for the good old S2! So I highly doubt that our device will get the 4.4 update... but if we do get it then it would be awesome
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It's simple, some of these phones in that list are novathor based, including our i9070. If they can be bothered to update one device to kitkat, they'll probably do the rest... The other ones are quite diverse. Much more work to do there.
But yes, it's been 20 months since it was announced... it doesn't look good. But who knows, time will tell!
Nice
Yeah ..News is great.. n feel better as owner of S advance......But.... who will gonna use stock rom..... hehe Customs are Best....
Have you read at the top of the paper?
"Under investigation". It may not be official still.
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I would use official rom, despite everything I love touchwiz
And if have smart volume (a feature that I would love to test!!) I would go for it
Anyway, i still doubt it, but who knows?? Time will tell...

Small rant to Motorola for not keeping their word

Update:
Funny enough, I posted my rant a day before Motorola decided to provide an update on this.
http://phandroid.com/2017/04/10/moto-z-focrce-play-motorola-power-pack-mod-delayed/
I'm still disappointed on how "March" became "Spring".
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This rant is specifically due to the Moto power pack that needed to be available in March 2017, and Motorola didn't keep their word.
If you don't care about moto mods, nevermind this thread for you, please be respectful to my opinion.
One of the reasons I bought this phone is for the Moto mods and the open development (with incentives) they promised for new moto mods.
When Motorola walked in the stage and announced all of the 2017 moto mods updates, and tagged the new power pack to be available in March, I was sold on it and probably to the Z2.
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Sadly, it is April 8th and still nothing about the mods, and specifically nothing about this new power pack "available in March", I am very understanding of companies not being able to meet their goals but the lack of communication is unacceptable.
I've tweeted them twice about this but they didn't care to respond.
If they walk to Mobile World Congress and promise something to an specific month, they should at least care to provide updates on the topic, if they can't execute on a single battery mod, I here warn people interested on this phone, that they wait to the Moto mods they want to be available before buying a Z-family phone. Just logic thinking, based on facts.
We can't allow companies to just talk out of their butt and then walk off like nothing happened, we paid a LOT of money, directly or indirectly, for this phone.
This is the problem with the industry overall, OEMs do whatever they want and we allow them to, these companies care less and less about commiting to customers and more about pleasing their directors and CEOs.
No wonder why Apple is such a big success, they too talk out of their butt sometimes, but I have to give them credit for their commitment to customers, and say that this is one of the obvious reasons of why Motorola is just a joke sub-company of Lenovo.
You walk in with an in-warranty, truly malfunctioning iPhone 7 to an Apple store, get the phone troubleshooting on site, and walk out with a new iPhone.
You try to exchange an in-warranty, truly malfunctioning Moto Z, and good freaking luck with that. I am serious, good luck, you might get a replacement in 3 days if you need to, hopefully.
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/04/15/motorola-warranty-customer-service-disaster/
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/motorola.html
They really need to get their crap together...
Motorola support has gone downhill ever since the Lenovo takeover.
Though from what I've heard, it's also pretty bad before they were Googli-fied.
D13H4RD2L1V3 said:
Motorola support has gone downhill ever since the Lenovo takeover.
Though from what I've heard, it's also pretty bad before they were Googli-fied.
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I was gonna say the same thing.
Also they voided my warranty when I unlocked my device. This never happened with LG or HTC. I've claimed my warranty even are rooting the device multiple times.

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