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my battery charger stopped working and i need a new one. I read a few review and i'm a bit confuesd, not every chargers with the capability to deliver 1000mAh works with every device. So which one oft them works with the desire s and delivers 1000mAh and not just 500mAh?
just buy a oem wall charger ,, easily found on ebay and also cheap
does it has any difference between 1000 and 500mah chargers? now i'm using original liveview charger with 500mah on it but also have 1A iPhone charger.
vartotojas123 said:
does it has any difference between 1000 and 500mah chargers? now i'm using original liveview charger with 500mah on it but also have 1A iPhone charger.
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I also have a 1A charger (coming from a SGS3), but I haven't had any problem
MatthewJoe said:
I also have a 1A charger (coming from a SGS3), but I haven't had any problem
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same here
Overheating
im using an old S2 charger i think, its got an output of 5V, 0.7 amps and after flashing a costom rom, jellyfirebean im getting serious overheating issues, but only while charging with the phone on.
however i cant confirm this is the chargers problem yet
just a note, its the phone that heats up not the charger
coolkid12239 said:
im using an old S2 charger i think, its got an output of 5V, 0.7 amps and after flashing a costom rom, jellyfirebean im getting serious overheating issues, but only while charging with the phone on.
however i cant confirm this is the chargers problem yet
just a note, its the phone that heats up not the charger
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no the phone never heats up using original wall charger
Talha7866 said:
no the phone never heats up using original wall charger
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Double that. Overheating can be only caused by the phone itself, or a defected battery (means it is near death, but for serius heating, you will notice like 1hrs of battery life for the phone).
On another note for the topic. I use 3 type of chargers for my phones:
At home my ASUS tab's one (which is rated 5V 1A at the standard USB, plus the extra for the dock, but it is ASUS specific), at work an old ZTE "dumbphone" charger (which is rated 5V 0.75A, and is a high frequency switching type, so really energy-efficient) and for any other my old SE X8's one, which is 5V 650mA (which is also switching type). Also dedicated charger cables, 1 nokia, 1 SE, 1 HTC and 1 ZTE at my car.
The phone's original 5V 1A is NRFB at the box of the phone, but I have a security backup Samsung charger (rated 5V 500mA and pass-trough type, so not really efficient, but stable) which works just fine. The S is not capable (or not enabled just yet) of fast charge mode AFAIK so no really chance for 500mA or more when charging (even when GPS and 3G on, and screen on max, which is aroung 430mA when I last measued it with a service cable).
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yeah i can confirm it was the 2 year old htc battery
i am now using 2 anker 1600mah batterys and they last a LOT longer + come with an enternal charger so i always have one charged, it also charges the old htc battery too externally so i can now use 3 battieries mwahahahaa
note i did have to delete battery stats in cwm to recalibrate
I have ordered a Moto G from England (GSM global version I presume), and while I am waiting for it to arrive, I would like your advice on what kind of wall charger to buy that would be optimal for the phone charge recommendations since my knowledge on the issue is very minimal.
I read somewhere that Motorola recommends between 0.5 - 1.5A , but that doesn't really tell me anything.
I have an old Samsing galaxy SII. Can I use the charger of the Galaxy for the Moto G? The output is 0.7A
As you said, any charger where the output is not too high (I recommend below 2a or below 2,5 to not stress the battery.
Conclusion: your samsung charger should work perfectly!
Edit: if you experience bad/not so good battery life (I did after update to kitkat), let your phone drain completely (shuts down) and recharge it to 100% and leave plugged in like 30-1h after it reached 100%.
But don't do this too often as it will harm your battery over time.
creambyemute said:
As you said, any charger where the output is not too high (I recommend below 2a or below 2,5 to not stress the battery.
Conclusion: your samsung charger should work perfectly!
Edit: if you experience bad/not so good battery life (I did after update to kitkat), let your phone drain completely (shuts down) and recharge it to 100% and leave plugged in like 30-1h after it reached 100%.
But don't do this too often as it will harm your battery over time.
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Thanks. With 0.7 output would the charge be slow or fast?
creambyemute said:
As you said, any charger where the output is not too high (I recommend below 2a or below 2,5 to not stress the battery.
Conclusion: your samsung charger should work perfectly!
Edit: if you experience bad/not so good battery life (I did after update to kitkat), let your phone drain completely (shuts down) and recharge it to 100% and leave plugged in like 30-1h after it reached 100%.
But don't do this too often as it will harm your battery over time.
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Using a charger over 2A doesn't stress the battery because the Moto G limits the current to 1.5A.
It says so right here : https://motorola-global-portal.cus...prod_answer_detail/a_id/97318/p/30,6720,9050
”Any Motorola charger with the correct micro-USB tip will charge your Moto*G. You will see the best results when the output of the charger is between 500 mA and 1.5 A. The higher the output, the faster your Moto G*will charge.
If your charger output is higher, the MOTO G will automatically restrict the charging rate. If your charger is lower, it will simply take longer to reach a full charge.”
I use my nexus 7 2A charger daily and it charges noticeably faster than my 1A HTC charger and is as Motorola stated, perfectly safe.
A 0.7A charger would charge pretty slow!
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Just under 3hrs for a 0% to 100% charge with a .75 A charger for me.
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Im using a HTC charger i already had which is rated at 1a ,seems to be working fine.
my 0.5A from 20% to 100% ~3 hours. When charging from less than 20%, I often put my phone to aeroplane mode and get ~3 hours of charging too
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mdentener said:
Using a charger over 2A doesn't stress the battery because the Moto G limits the current to 1.5A.
It says so right here : https://motorola-global-portal.cus...prod_answer_detail/a_id/97318/p/30,6720,9050
”Any Motorola charger with the correct micro-USB tip will charge your Moto*G. You will see the best results when the output of the charger is between 500 mA and 1.5 A. The higher the output, the faster your Moto G*will charge.
If your charger output is higher, the MOTO G will automatically restrict the charging rate. If your charger is lower, it will simply take longer to reach a full charge.”
I use my nexus 7 2A charger daily and it charges noticeably faster than my 1A HTC charger and is as Motorola stated, perfectly safe.
A 0.7A charger would charge pretty slow!
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Many thanks. Could you recommend me on a good and not expensive charger that would do the job and charge it fast?
Since I dont live in the US, amazon is kind of useless to me since there are very few items they ship outside the US, so eBay would be a better option. I just dont want to buy something crappy
mazinya said:
Many thanks. Could you recommend me on a good and not expensive charger that would do the job and charge it fast?
Since I dont live in the US, amazon is kind of useless to me since there are very few items they ship outside the US, so eBay would be a better option. I just dont want to buy something crappy
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I use a Blackberry branded 0.75mah micro usb charger which works well as does my Samsung Galaxy Tab2 which is 2amp charges nicely too.
I found an older HTC usb 0.7 charger did not work at all well for some reason.
charger doesn't push power, phone draws power, as long as you have the right voltage you are good
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charger doesn't push power, phone draws power, as long as you have the right voltage you are good
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Indeed but I've found some chargers vary for example my Samsung 2amp Galaxy Tab2 charger will not charge my Moto Defy+ phone, it sits there forever doing very little but the Moto G is fine with it. Probably due to the Defy+ only drawing 500mah and the Galaxy charger sees this as undercurrent and doesn't output whereas the MotoG can demand up to 1500mAh current which the Galaxy charger sees as acceptable and supplies the current.
I'd avoid any of the super cheap nasty Chinese crap chargers that seem very poorly built, unstable and potentially a death trap.
spannerz said:
Indeed but I've found some chargers vary for example my Samsung 2amp Galaxy Tab2 charger will not charge my Moto Defy+ phone, it sits there forever doing very little but the Moto G is fine with it. Probably due to the Defy+ only drawing 500mah and the Galaxy charger sees this as undercurrent and doesn't output whereas the MotoG can demand up to 1500mAh current which the Galaxy charger sees as acceptable and supplies the current.
I'd avoid any of the super cheap nasty Chinese crap chargers that seem very poorly built, unstable and potentially a death trap.
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Sorry I meant to quote the advice above that said don't get something with too large a current.
Absolutely avoid cheap chargers, burnt home totally not worth the savings. The hp chargers left from the time they used to make tablets are pretty good actually, tested with an oscilloscope
I dont want a crappy cheap Chinese charger. Thats why I am asking for a recommendation. I have a nexus 7 2013 and the output is 2A. I assume I can use it also to charge the Moto G?
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I dont want a crappy cheap Chinese charger. Thats why I am asking for a recommendation. I have a nexus 7 2013 and the output is 2A. I assume I can use it also to charge the Moto G?
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That should be fine
That's funny hey, the Australian version comes with USB cable wall charger and Motorola headset. This is the XT1033 variant.
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mdentener said:
I use my nexus 7 2A charger daily and it charges noticeably faster than my 1A HTC charger and is as Motorola stated, perfectly safe.
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I'm curious, is your 2A charger for a 2012 Nexus 7? Because I also plan to use my 2012 Nexus 7 charger on my Moto G, which is coming next week. How quickly does it charge the Moto G?
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I'm curious, is your 2A charger for a 2012 Nexus 7? Because I also plan to use my 2012 Nexus 7 charger on my Moto G, which is coming next week. How quickly does it charge the Moto G?
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Yeah my nexus 7 is a 2012 model also, works just fine and charges really fast. I'll stopwatch my next recharge and report.
Edit: It charges from 10% to 100% in 2 hours with my nexus 7 2012 2A charger while incidentally using it.
Next charge I'll try my HTC 1A charger to monitor the difference
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2 hours 10 minutes from 0% to 100% with 1A charger
mdentener said:
It charges from 10% to 100% in 2 hours with my nexus 7 2012 2A charger while incidentally using it.
Next charge I'll try my HTC 1A charger to monitor the difference
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Great, thanks for finding out!
I have a charger from Htc Explorer with this specification Input: 100-240v~200mA 50/60hz / Output: 5V-1A , and don't seems to work very well, is normal???
Thanks in advance
after 27 days it got to 0% battery, now I tried to charge it, but it won't respond at all, not even one signal of life.
what am I supposed to do? the bootloader is unlocked also.
ChuunG said:
after 27 days it got to 0% battery, now I tried to charge it, but it won't respond at all, not even one signal of life.
what am I supposed to do? the bootloader is unlocked also.
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as a first try I would leave it on an at least 1A charger for a day or so
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as a first try I would leave it on an at least 1A charger for a day or so
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what is a 1A charger?
Try to put your phone in a plastic bag, and put it in a freezer for a few minutes. Than take it out and try to recharge it.
I know, it's sound weird, but I've read on this very forum about that.
edit: 1A charger is a wall charger with charging current of 1A ot 1000mA.
krucymucy said:
Try to put your phone in a plastic bag, and put it in a freezer for a few minutes. Than take it out and try to recharge it.
I know, it's sound weird, but I've read on this very forum about that.
edit: 1A charger is a wall charger with charging current of 1A ot 1000mA.
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how do i get a 1A charger?
is an iphone wall charger fine? because that's all i have...
and is it common that it wont charge up?
its so frusturating
I haven't said anything about charger, and I don't think there's problem with a charger. I just explained what a 1A charger means.
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Actually there's a similar thread. Check it out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2554976
It'a a common thing on Motorola Moto G.
Seems the wall charger is 0.5Ampere (0.5A) but it doesnt have enough 'power' to start Moto G up after a 0% battery drop. So, what you have to do is look for a charger which has more then 0.5A, like Razr i has 0.85A or like S3 chargers. Then you can charge your phone from 0% to 10% them Switch to its original charger
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FelipeBHZ said:
It'a a common thing on Motorola Moto G.
Seems the wall charger is 0.5Ampere (0.5A) but it doesnt have enough 'power' to start Moto G up after a 0% battery drop. So, what you have to do is look for a charger which has more then 0.5A, like Razr i has 0.85A or like S3 chargers. Then you can charge your phone from 0% to 10% them Switch to its original charger
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you mean the wall charger? or the usb itself?
and is an iphone wall charger fine?
how do i get a more then 0.5A charger?
and what if i charge from the pc?
ChuunG said:
you mean the wall charger? or the usb itself?
and is an iphone wall charger fine?
how do i get a more then 0.5A charger?
and what if i charge from the pc?
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I mean the wall charger. You have to read on the iPhone charger what is it's output voltage and amps. (most important, volta (v) can't be more than 5.1v)
Probably iPhone has an output of 0.85A.
AFAIK all USB 2.0 ports can only provide 0.5A at maximum, so, it's almost right you cannot charge it on your USB port if battery is 0%. If you can't get a wall charger at home, or at work, try to buy one on a retail store, they have plenty of them. BUT, always check its output voltage. :good:
FelipeBHZ said:
I mean the wall charger. You have to read on the iPhone charger what is it's output voltage and amps. (most important, volta (v) can't be more than 5.1v)
Probably iPhone has an output of 0.85A.
AFAIK all USB 2.0 ports can only provide 0.5A at maximum, so, it's almost right you cannot charge it on your USB port if battery is 0%. If you can't get a wall charger at home, or at work, try to buy one on a retail store, they have plenty of them. BUT, always check its output voltage. :good:
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i have an iphone wall charger
im in israel and they dont even sell this phone here
and thanks
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it turned on and i can use it.
remember guys - dont use the PC for charging, you will waste your time (when battery is 0%)
YUY
ChuunG said:
i have an iphone wall charger
im in israel and they dont even sell this phone here
and thanks
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You are welcome!
Im searching for a 1.5a charger. Can you recommend a charger from another phone? I find it really hard to find one when ever i was asked what phone i have and when i said moto g, they just said no. Most of the time i see 2.0 or 2.1a i know moto g still support that but i read that it heats the phone. Thats why im searching for the max amp that moto suppprts. Pls reply from what phone do you use, like brand and phone model. Pls only 1.5a. Thanks.
kiko321 said:
Im searching for a 1.5a charger. Can you recommend a charger from another phone? I find it really hard to find one when ever i was asked what phone i have and when i said moto g, they just said no. Most of the time i see 2.0 or 2.1a i know moto g still support that but i read that it heats the phone. Thats why im searching for the max amp that moto suppprts. Pls reply from what phone do you use, like brand and phone model. Pls only 1.5a. Thanks.
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Just buy one of those 2amp chargers you've seen.Your phone has built-in circuitry that will limit the current to 1.5A anyway.In other words, your phone won't heat up more than, if you're using 1.5A charger.
Actually there are some reports that uses 2.0a+ charger that heats up their phone.
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Just buy one of those 2amp chargers you've seen.Your phone has built-in circuitry that will limit the current to 1.5A anyway.In other words, your phone won't heat up more than, if you're using 1.5A charger.
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I second that. I'm using a 2.1 A charger and the phone is not heting up during during the charge.
kiko321 said:
Im searching for a 1.5a charger. Can you recommend a charger from another phone?
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I found this one (it is not 1.5, but 1.2):
Nokia AC-10E
Input: 100-240V, 50-60Hz
Output: 5.0V, 1200mA
For my Moto G sometimes I use my mother's phone charger and it charges quite fast my phone. It is an HTC charger:
HTC TC E250
Input: 100-240V/200 mA
Output: 5V, 1A
Thanks giugo.
i use my old nokia E52's charger...output is 1200mA (1.2 A)..charge fast and haven't faced any issue yet
you may go and grab one of nokia's charger in my opinion :good:
S3 stock charger 1 amp and s4 stock charger 2 amp .
Anyome using a 2A charger instead of a turbo charger?
Like a samsung 2A charger
Or a 2A power bank?
Any issues?
Because 1150 mah is too slow
I was also wondering this.I tried it with my 2,4a ipad charger once and it was charging twice as fast, but i dont know if this is good for the phone. Using the normal charger again to be sure.
With normal 1.2A charger, it takes almost 3+ hours for my phone to fully charge. I used my Galaxy Note 10 charger which is 2A and it got charged in 2 hours. I read it in the forums that even with 2A charger, we cant take the advantage of turbo charging as it will need a charger of 2.4A.
I dont know how 0.4A will make a difference but still, my knowledge is limited in this case and wouldnt want to comment on it.
The charger has to be Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified (that's a specification) to take advantage of the turbo charge mode. The amps put out by the charger is kind of secondary in this situation as the charger and phone both need to be "talking on the same page" i.e. QC 2.0
At that point (charger is QC 2.0) the special circuitry kicks in and goes into turbo mode. So its a little more involved than just throwing more amps at the phone. If you google Qualcomm QC 2.0 specification then it will give you a better idea of what it is all about.
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Turbo charging steps up to 9v and 12v depending on what wattage the phone can handle.
I think our phones are 15w and the Style is 20w or so.
I can't get my phone to charge faster with a 2amp charger though, only my turbo charger.
I used digitech 2.4amp charge ans works like a charm superb....
It isn't causing any issues? Like battery degradation?
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I've been using my Moto turbo charger every night for a couple weeks now and haven't noticed any issues. The phone doesn't seem to let the battery get over 35'C when its charging, so I don't imagine it'll damage the battery.
Think I may get a car charger soon, sometimes I forget to charge at night so it'd be cool to get a full charge on the drive in.
Battery will very likely not last as long when doing fast charging always compared to "normal" charges
Any fact to back that claim?
Im using a Belkin 2.1A charger, no problems whatsoever.
So what's conclusion is it safe to use 2a charger without doing damage to battery
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So what's conclusion is it safe to use 2a charger without doing damage to battery
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I'm using a 3a charger and it's fine
You can't harm a battery with a higher amperage output charger. The phone will only consume what it is able to. If the voltage was higher (excluding quick charge adapters) then yes that will do damage, but that's a strange situation as no charger should do that unless it's quick charge.
That being said, on hand I do have a feeling that quick charge can actually do long term damage if used a lot but on the other hand, it seems to limit the maximum temperature to around 38'C. Above 40'C can cause irreversible damage to the cell. I'm using a car charger now and when the phone is in use, it gets up to around 38 or 39 and it cuts back on the charging current.
Interesting article explaining Qualcomm, fast charge, turbo charge using all the same technique under different names. They all use the same Qualcomm technique.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...-need-to-know-about-charging-your-smartphone/