[q] nvidia shield poor emulator performance - Shield Q&A

I have just purchased the NVIDIA SHIELD (running kitkat) I am very shocked and disappointed at the poor emulator performance as compared with the jxd s7800b.
I originally bought it maily for emulation however when running the NES.emu emulator purchased from Google play there is a lot of frame skips and poor performance. Things get even worse when setting the frame skip to 0, the shield just cannot cope, however this is not an issue on the jxd s7800b.
I would have imagined that since the shield is supposed to be more powerful, emulators would run without a hitch but obviously not even epse runs no better on the shield than it does on the jxd s7800b
Has anyone come across this issue? Is it possible that my shield is faulty (I am really thinking on returning the damn thing, waste of money)

You should try downgrading to Jellybean. Maybe that could help? (If its possible even)
I don't have a shield, literally I'll be buying it today. I've seen videos of PPSSPP running perfectly fine on it, and if im not mistaking that emulator is more demanding than NES.
Also what antutu scores are you getting?
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Kite-G said:
You should try downgrading to Jellybean. Maybe that could help? (If its possible even)
I don't have a shield, literally I'll be buying it today. I've seen videos of PPSSPP running perfectly fine on it, and if im not mistaking that emulator is more demanding than NES.
Also what antutu scores are you getting?
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I got an antutu score of 38470, the shield should be able to handle the nes emulator without any issues (jsx s7800b which is inferior has no problems at all). going to try and see if I can put jelly bean back

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I got an antutu score of 38470, the should de able to handle the nes emulator without any issues (jsx s7800b which is inferior has no problems at all). going to try and see Iif I can put jelly bean back
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Those benchmarks are fine, the average Shield scores. Well, just thinking, maybe you should tweak the emulator settings or the performance settings. But maybe its due to the KitKat update. If you do downgrade to jellybean, let me know how it runs afterwards.
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Kit Kat is the problem, I can confirm this because im a user from the beginning of the Shields life cycle. i went through with the Kit Kat update and regretted it badly! not only are there slowdowns in emulation but some apps can no longer be moved or ran from SD. Downgrading is quite easy if you CWM installed though.

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Kit Kat is the problem, I can confirm this because im a user from the beginning of the Shields life cycle. i went through with the Kit Kat update and regretted it badly! not only are there slowdowns in emulation but some apps can no longer be moved or ran from SD. Downgrading is quite easy if you CWM installed though.
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Yeah thanks I have now successfully downgraded back to Jelly Bean OTA 68. Following the steps below (very useful):
https://forums.geforce.com/default/...ield-kitkat-ota-77-poor-performance/?offset=2
The performance issues seems to have gone, additionally I have just performed an Antutu benchmark test i got a higher score of 3912 which is now higher when compared to KitKat where I got 38470 before. So it looks like KitKat is definitely having an impact on performance.

I'd downgrade if there is a way to run Half Life 2 or Portal on Jelly Bean.
But right now, I don't want to miss those games on Shield.

Is there a way to stop the shield from bugging me about updates? I have downgraded to Jelly Bean for this peformance reason but don't want to be bugged about updating or forced to update.

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Need for speed Most wanted

Any one has any new on this game?
Works like a charm on my sgs2 and my atrix4g.... the only reason i bought a tablet in the first place
was to play the games, watch movies and surf the web on a bigger screen.... and it seems i cant...
running cleanrom 2.3 and clemsyns latest kernel..
if only the nice apps and games would be worth using on this device...
Maybe theres a hack or something to lower the resolution or lower the graphics? tried with the data files from my sgs2 which is 200mb less..
I also bought this game and only able to play it on my Evo 4G LTE for now. Hoping it will be compatible once the Nexus 10 comes out. EA and Gameloft have both said that they will add support for it with most of their games.
Gaming is also a big reason for me to have a tablet. Sucks that most games aren't compatible with the Infinity just because the Infinity has a high resolution display!!
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Any one has any new on this game?
Works like a charm on my sgs2 and my atrix4g.... the only reason i bought a tablet in the first place
was to play the games, watch movies and surf the web on a bigger screen.... and it seems i cant...
running cleanrom 2.3 and clemsyns latest kernel..
if only the nice apps and games would be worth using on this device...
Maybe theres a hack or something to lower the resolution or lower the graphics? tried with the data files from my sgs2 which is 200mb less..
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I don't know why people can't play this game on the tf700 with cleanrom, I played it fine, no lag, stutter, just smooth and responsive. What kind of issue you have with this game?? I can see that people with stock rom may have issue because stock rom is so differnet from device to device, but not when you on Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel and data2sd(this maybe the issue with you guys?? )
EDIT: Can some one with the Cleanrom+clemsynkernel+data2sd try out this game? Maybe data2sd makes a different???
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I don't know why people can't play this game on the tf700 with cleanrom, I played it fine, no lag, stutter, just smooth and responsive. What kind of issue you have with this game?? I can see that people with stock rom may have issue because stock rom is so differnet from device to device, but not when you on Cleanrom and Clemsyn kernel and data2sd(this maybe the issue with you guys?? )
EDIT: Can some one with the Cleanrom+clemsynkernel+data2sd try out this game? Maybe data2sd makes a different???
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It's incompatible with Infinity in the Google Play - that's what they were trying to say.
I have One X also with Tegra 3, gonna try and use the APK with internal data from it to try on my Infinity...
It's so laggy on Infinity compared to NEXUS 7.
FPS seems about 20-40, unstable.
With CleanROM2.3 n stock kernel.
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Well the game seems to be running in slow motion.... this is cleanrom 2.3 with clemsyns kernel no data2sd as i do not have a class 10 card
Will try with cleanrom 2.4 later today...
can you tell me what size the apk you have working is? as there are 2 different files..
as i understand the htx one x running tegra 3 has the same problems together with a stock nexus 7 hmm? take a look on the other device forums.
What good is a great full hd display when nothing can run on it i would personally never buy a nexus 10 with that extreme resolution...
I believe it is going to have a hard time running anything other than pacman hate too show the device to an apple fan
ps: my screen is beggining to pop out should i get a replacement? it makes wierd noises when pressing on the screen.... sadly i unlocked it so idk if i have a chance to get a replacement
Yeah I am very disappointed with the number of apps that aren't available on the TF700. I can't even use the Xbox Smartglass app.
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Yeah I am very disappointed with the number of apps that aren't available on the TF700. I can't even use the Xbox Smartglass app.
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somwhere on xda is a modified version for tabs.
its working like a charm.
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somwhere on xda is a modified version for tabs.
its working like a charm.
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I can confirm it works fine on the tf700t
Use at your own risk I take no responsibility if it doesn't work... But... This works great for me.. Love the game now.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845993
There's a difference between "Not compatible in Play Store" and "Not compatible with the device". That difference lies in developers being too stupid and/or lazy to add the TF700 to the list. Most don't want change the game's textures to run on a higher resolution so they don't bother.
I've yet to find a game that won't work using alternate methods of acquisition.
I'm on stock and NFS runs fine. I do, however, turn off all other random bloatware and crap that runs in the background, set the process limit to 4 and run in performance mode. Who the hell leaves the browser open while playing a Game in full screen, anyway?
Or maybe I'm just not seeing the lag, as all games on my pc run at 20fps these days. (FU companies, I don't have the money to buy a new vidcard every month just because you lot are too lazy to add video-options when you port from the console.)
WOW Thanks alot using the 1.3ghz mode allmost flawless with cleanrom 2.4 and stock kernel.... bet clemsyns would fix the rest..
and my incoming 32gb class 10 sandisk card might do the job too with data2sd cant wait!
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WOW Thanks a lot using the 1.3ghz mode allmost flawless with cleanrom 2.4 and stock kernel.... bet clemsyns would fix the rest..
and my incoming 32gb class 10 sandisk card might do the job too with data2sd cant wait!
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Hey just to let you know, after the 1.3ghz you tried,try the manual method by installing the apk there in that manual method post,change the value of nfsmw_scaler to 1.5ghz,Run game(it will be slow as earlier).Close it.Install the automatic patch(again).remove the nfsmw_scaler file.Now try running the game,u would have reflections(on the car now) with no difference in frame rate as earlier.It looks great with no performance hit.Your mileage may vary.Also I don't think balanced, performance modes makes a difference in ingame performance.On the contrary,I was playing the game in performance mode,when it showed low battery warning and power saver kicked.It went to balance mode..And I might be mistaken here,but my frame rate increased a bit. Quite a bit..Anyway happy to run this game.
Thx again works flawless with full detail in 1. 5ghz mode. You dont need the nexus7version though the scaler is running smooth here with fulldetails in battery saver mode
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Shows incompatible for me too on my Infinity. I've bought it and just playing it on my Evo 4G LTE for now. Hoping it will be compatible sometime around the Nexus 10 release. Tomorrow I'll look in to the link posted, when it isn't 1 in the morning. Lol
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Falchion17 said:
Yeah I am very disappointed with the number of apps that aren't available on the TF700. I can't even use the Xbox Smartglass app.
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Side load it there's a hacked version of xbox smartglass floating around the net I have it on my Asus eee pad & hp touch pad also I have need 4 speed on my tablets and Gs3..
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Hey just to let you know, after the 1.3ghz you tried,try the manual method by installing the apk there in that manual method post,change the value of nfsmw_scaler to 1.5ghz,Run game(it will be slow as earlier).Close it.Install the automatic patch(again).remove the nfsmw_scaler file.Now try running the game,u would have reflections(on the car now) with no difference in frame rate as earlier.It looks great with no performance hit.Your mileage may vary.Also I don't think balanced, performance modes makes a difference in ingame performance.On the contrary,I was playing the game in performance mode,when it showed low battery warning and power saver kicked.It went to balance mode..And I might be mistaken here,but my frame rate increased a bit. Quite a bit..Anyway happy to run this game.
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Doesn't work for me, nfs just doesn't start without the scaler text file
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NFS could run a little bit faster on my Infinity!
Framerate seems not so high...
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Just a note that NFSMW is now supported on the Infinity (stock). It runs pretty well, looks great, and only seems to have minor hiccups.
Seems to run pretty well on my TF700 running CleanROM (was able to purchase in the Play store without issue). I'm running CleanROM with the stock kernel...
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Games on acer a700

Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
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Hi matey,
I've been trying Dead Trigger and that one worked just fine with me. Both saving and performance mode. Dark Knight Rises (and the Amazing Spider-Man) lagged for me too. Can't really tell if this is a hardware or software limitation. Wild Blood (also a Gameloft game) lagged for me too but then after an update that was solved. I installed Modern Combat 4, which lags a little too. Especially in the cutscenes.
That's why I'm going to try out the app you mentioned, let's see if that fixes some things. Thanks for that.
I'm really hoping Vorbeth (awesome person) is able to overclock the processor (CPU). He's already done overclocking the GPU. I think after he succeeds overclocking the CPU, things are going a lot smoother.
The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.
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The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.
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Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
The TEGRA 3 isn't specifically designed for that resultion. Optimized seems more applicable, since the CPU just processes the stuff. Overclocking would in theory process even more stuff, so that will include data from the GPU to the display, I guess. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,
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I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,
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I have to check that, haven't even seen that option. Anyway, no idea what its for.
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Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
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The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.
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The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.
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I see your point. That means we're just doomed then :/
putti71 said:
Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
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Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother
casper326 said:
Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother
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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...
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dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...
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mmmm,
wondering if we can lower the resolution to say 720p.... just a thought
I already had this thought since I got the A700.
It would be nice if it's possible to change the output resolution to 1280x800 that it gets upscaled to 1920x1200.
I have read up about changing the resolution on android and the key might be the kernel start parameters in the bootloader.
but also patching the display driver could do it.
If we change the kernel, there is no way back, only flashing the original kernel.
I think the best way is to wait and hope that the game developers come up with some solution, hopefully.
When I bought the HTC one x, the situation was similar. There were only a few games working. And now, all of the HD games work.
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I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.
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I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.
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I hope you're wrong
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I hope you're wrong
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The One X got supported as it was HTC's Flagship phone, selling quite well, Full HD Tablets don't sell so well, so they won't even invest the ££ needed to support the lesser known tablets.
They may support Full HD for the nexus 10, but thats not a Tegra device
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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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i'm also on JB, i play dark knight fluently. However amazing spider man lags big time, too bad i liked the game and my son also..
I've flashed that GPU kernel maybe that solves dark knight.
I'm on JB (RV18RC01_EMEA_FR, build 1.052) and the games you talk (expect spiderman wich I don't have) run smoothly on my tablet.
Some games received an update that solve lag but Acer make the system better and better.
One game lag for me it's NFS most wanted. It is playable but the car seem to run slowly.
I regret that some big developer (Game Loft is the perfect example) don't support HD tablet and their games don't appear on Play Store.
But if this game are downloaded with a supported device (my Xperia S) and loaded on tab they work perfectly (Nova 3).
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with Iconian 2.4 they do appear on the playstore, but Nova 3 is still unplayable slow.
Perhaps because I buy Nova 3 directly from Game Loft.
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Dungeon Hunter 4

OMG is this game laggy on this tablet. Is anyone else playing this game with no lag? If so what did you do. My Samsung S3 plays this game with zero lag. But I keep changing Roms and I have no idea how to save this game. Any help would be great... Thanks
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Runs smooth for me on balanced mode besides the characters walking animation not being smooth. Every time he takes two steps I feel a slight stop and go in the game.
Cromi 3.4.7 (jb4.1.1) with hunds kernel v2.2
Thx for the reply. Looks like I might need to root my tablet. Since the 4. 2 update this tablet is very laggy.
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OMG is this game laggy on this tablet. Is anyone else playing this game with no lag? If so what did you do. My Samsung S3 plays this game with zero lag. But I keep changing Roms and I have no idea how to save this game. Any help would be great... Thanks
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The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).
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The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).
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I don't think the tablet being too weak for games would be correct. This tablet has the cpu/gpu to run them. There is something else that is keeping games from having full compatibility or smoothness with this tablet. You can search and find theories from game developers being too lazy to properly code or there being an underlining issue with Tegra3 chips that Nvidia never addressed but was supposedly working on a patch for. More likely it's the high resolution of the screen which we all ready know causes a performance hit. I don't see that as being week since it is giving us a beautiful picture when using the tablet for various tasks. For those running a custom rom, is there the option to lower the resolution of the screen for extra performance?
To the original poster, not make it sound like you don't know what your tablet is doing, but are you running anything in the background or accidentally have battery saver set? I will try downloading this game and see what I get performance wise. I'm running a fresh stock install of 4.1 firmware.
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No problems for me running the game on stock firmware 4.1. Ran it in both performance and balanced mode.
Also im on cromi-x 4.5 with hunds 3.0.6 kernel today, running close to smooth with hunds kernel app that sets the cpu/gpu for games. Sadly i cant run the game on medium setting because the app wont save the settings after game relaunches
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I don't think the tablet being too weak for games would be correct. This tablet has the cpu/gpu to run them. There is something else that is keeping games from having full compatibility or smoothness with this tablet. You can search and find theories from game developers being too lazy to properly code or there being an underlining issue with Tegra3 chips that Nvidia never addressed but was supposedly working on a patch for. More likely it's the high resolution of the screen which we all ready know causes a performance hit. I don't see that as being week since it is giving us a beautiful picture when using the tablet for various tasks. For those running a custom rom, is there the option to lower the resolution of the screen for extra performance?
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I stated that the tf700 is too weak for this game.
I agree that the tf700 has got the potential to be a game perfomer, but unfortunately it ain't.
You elaborated the reasons for this and I think you're right.
Yet, we are not living in theories but in reality where game developers skip our device
(I tried to address some of them asking for a fix, but to no avail).
Here is an example of a correspondence I had with Get Set games inc.:
"Dear Dev,
My almost 2 year old daughter is mad about Mega Run (which she keep calling "Monkey Circles").
I am an old fan of Mega Run and Mega Jump too.
The issue is that the game's graphics are not optimised for the 10 inch screen of the Asus Infinity (TF700).
Therefore the graphics are a bit blurry.
I would appreciate it if you could help me find a solution for what I have described,
or maybe issue a version that will be optimised for our tf700's screen.
Hope my request will be considered since as I have written, we love your application.
Thanks with advance and keep up the good work.
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Thanks for getting in contact with us and for the feedback. It is great to hear that you and your daughter have been enjoying Mega Run. We have just release Mega Run on Android, and with that release we chose to only have one set of graphics at a medium/high resolution. The reason we chose to do this is that most Android devices fit this resolution very well. In the future, we hope to have higher resolution graphics for tablets such as the Asus Infinity.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Mike"
IMHO - this is not a standard machine... I should have learned this sooner (before I purchased it).
Anyways, the TF700 has it's strong areas: great device for playing all kinds of media and even some games.
The mSD slot is awesome and all in all I enjoy it.
It runs fairly well, actually. Frankly, it runs smoother than Skyrim ever did on my PC. (That game used to literally freeze every 2 steps to re-render the scene. Crappy coding from Bethesda... As per bloody usual.)
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Here is an example of a correspondence I had with Get Set games inc.:
"Dear Dev,
My almost 2 year old daughter is mad about Mega Run (which she keep calling "Monkey Circles").
I am an old fan of Mega Run and Mega Jump too.
The issue is that the game's graphics are not optimised for the 10 inch screen of the Asus Infinity (TF700).
Therefore the graphics are a bit blurry.
I would appreciate it if you could help me find a solution for what I have described,
or maybe issue a version that will be optimised for our tf700's screen.
Hope my request will be considered since as I have written, we love your application.
Thanks with advance and keep up the good work.
REPLY:
Thanks for getting in contact with us and for the feedback. It is great to hear that you and your daughter have been enjoying Mega Run. We have just release Mega Run on Android, and with that release we chose to only have one set of graphics at a medium/high resolution. The reason we chose to do this is that most Android devices fit this resolution very well. In the future, we hope to have higher resolution graphics for tablets such as the Asus Infinity.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Mike"
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You could've known the game would be blurry. Games are made with the 'hyped' devices in mind: The Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy S3. Which both run 1280x800, as opposed to 'our' 1920x1200.. (Quite a significant size increase.)
Anything with a higher resolution is a HD version, and specifically has HD listed behind it. ('Angry Birds HD'.)
Give it +-six months. Then, the SGS4 and the Note 3 will be the top devices alongside the HTC One and the potential new Nexus. And developers will have no other choice but to finally make games and apps in HD.
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It runs fairly well, actually. Frankly, it runs smoother than Skyrim ever did on my PC. (That game used to literally freeze every 2 steps to re-render the scene. Crappy coding from Bethesda... As per bloody usual.)
You could've known the game would be blurry. Games are made with the 'hyped' devices in mind: The Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy S3. Which both run 1280x800, as opposed to 'our' 1920x1200.. (Quite a significant size increase.)
Anything with a higher resolution is a HD version, and specifically has HD listed behind it. ('Angry Birds HD'.)
Give it +-six months. Then, the SGS4 and the Note 3 will be the top devices alongside the HTC One and the potential new Nexus. And developers will have no other choice but to finally make games and apps in HD.
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I agree with you that eventually 1920x1080 will be a common resolution for Android devices, but I still believe Tegra 3 is too weak to run those games at full HD resolution (all Full HD devices I know have either a Snapdragon S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600 to power that many pixels). I have seen quite a few games that lag miserably on my tf700, even if it is optimized for Tegra. Example, Beach Buggy Blitz (running at max setting of this game is a big no-no on my tf700).
As for Skyrim, I really have no complaint about frame drop and stuttering, it runs quite smoothly on my laptop. Nevertheless, given the diversity of PC hardware, it could just be that I was lucky to have fully compatible hardware.
I don't agree : Dungeon Hunter 4 is very laggy on my tab and i am not playing that game anymore due to that issue. But i have played many hours to The Bard's Tale and it worked nearly perfectly (it would lag only when a lot of characters and huge effects, that means about 10 seconds every 4 hours) and bard's tale is imo more beautiful than dh4 and still it was developed in 2012 when hd screens were very rare. So imo the dh4 lag issue comes from poor design and programming.
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I agree with you that eventually 1920x1080 will be a common resolution for Android devices, but I still believe Tegra 3 is too weak to run those games at full HD resolution (all Full HD devices I know have either a Snapdragon S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600 to power that many pixels). I have seen quite a few games that lag miserably on my tf700, even if it is optimized for Tegra. Example, Beach Buggy Blitz (running at max setting of this game is a big no-no on my tf700).
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It's primarily the I/O issue, not the Tegra 3.
The problem is that games are optimized for snapdragons because that's what the hyped, common-cattle owned devices (SGS3/4 & GT2) run.
SoulCraft THD: Perfectly.
SHADOWGUN THD: Perfectly.
Samurai II: Vengeance THD: Perfectly.
Puddle THD: Perfectly.
Zombie Driver THD: Perfectly.
Renaissance Blood THD: Runs well.
The Bard's Tale: Fine.
N.O.V.A. 3: Some issue with green images in main menu/intro, Game itself runs fine.
So no, it's not the Tegra 3. It's lazy developers and crap engines.
As for Skyrim, I really have no complaint about frame drop and stuttering, it runs quite smoothly on my laptop. Nevertheless, given the diversity of PC hardware, it could just be that I was lucky to have fully compatible hardware.
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It's since been fixed in the patches. The issue occured during the first 3 updates (including vanilla base.). At one point I had backwards flying dragons that spun around breathing fire in mid air and stopped every few seconds as the game froze and unfroze :laugh: The engine Skyrim runs on is 12 years old, and instead of using a clean version they retasked the Fallout one with all the coding still cluttering it.
The main fault in this tablet is the i/o. Everything else is perfectly big enough to run the screen. With such crappy i/o, the tablet cannot cache applications at a rate needed, especially for files made for Full HD screens. This can be solved with a B2R tpye script or Data2SD. With Data2SD, even on a pretty cheap card, the tablet runs much much smoother. This is why the browser on stock runs so terribly. The internal i/o cant cache it fast enough. So, the Tega 3 is more then enough of power, but the problem is the i/o, which can only even start to be tweaked by unlocking/rooting, but even then there is no fix.
Tylor
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ROM: CromiX 4.5 DeOdex
Kernel: MaxKernel V2
Tylorw1 said:
The main fault in this tablet is the i/o. Everything else is perfectly big enough to run the screen. With such crappy i/o, the tablet cannot cache applications at a rate needed, especially for files made for Full HD screens.
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GPU performance has nothing to do with I/O.
I/O is slow for random writes, yes - but games usually don't write a lot to storage. The GPU is slow because it is simply not very powerful. See here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6036/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t-review/4
With good programming, it can drive the full HD screen with acceptable framerate (see Epic Citadel), but apparently not every engine is so well optimized.
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The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).
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I notice the Nook HD+ that also has a 1080p display seems to play games smoother than the 700. Performance is about in between the 700 and 300, with the 300 being better overall.
The 4470 gpu is more robust for higher def displays and has dual channel memory, but a dual core. I would have expected the net result to be a wash, but does seem the dual channel memory might be the difference.
For game emulators though that are cpu heavy like MAMEreloaded, the Nook is a little faster. Gets hot in the bottom right corner though.
horrible
Yeah i tried this game. Changed graphics settings in game to lowest and had performance mode on and it still lagged like crazy. Not really my kind of game to begin with so it didn't upset me too badly, but i would have expected more from such a high end tablet.
I have uninstalled the game today : too laggy and i still believe that its code is bad (bard's tale is so much smoother on my same tab)
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I know this is a bit of an old thread, I just not stumbled upon it. I've been using cromi-x for quite some time, and on earlier versions I didn't have much issue until I got into higher levels where more monsters generated, then it would lag briefly and go back to normal. As of lately I haven't even been able to play the game. I've played a few other games that seem to have similar features and get zero lag. Though I'm not a coder or developer, I feel that this is a issue with the game itself combined with i/o limitations of our tablet. SDBags has done some amazing work on his rom. I've tried all sorts of kernel and tweak combinations, none of which seem to correct the issue. To make the issue worse I was level 42 and lost my entire game and $40 worth of purchases that gameloft has yet to refund me. That, of course doesn't have anything to do with the laggy issue. I thought I would bump the thread to see if anyone else has come up with anything.

Nova 3 Freedom Edition, Heavy Lag :Solution Required

Hey Geeks,
Recently my friend purchased this phone but is facing ridiculous lag while trying to play "Nova 3", truely speaking this game is not playable at all. Even the game videos that come in between stages tend to lag. While i saw couple of gaming review videos where Nova 3 Runs smoothly on this phone except for one user who was also facing heavy lags. My friend got this phone couple days back and there is no software update avaialble for the phone as of now. Spec wise, phone should be able to run this game flawlessly as even xiaomi phones with meditek processor clocked lower are able to run this game smoothly.
I was wondering if anyone could suggest some solution for that.
please clarify if Problem is with the handset itself or some software update screwed it or some tweaking is required to rage CPU to be able to handle this game smoothly.
FYI:Its a 16GB internal, 2GB Ram Version
Regards
Can I have some reply please
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Play it on your 1+1?
There's no custom kernels out for oc support so no way to boost performance. I would clear recents and before playing or maybe a full restart to clear out your ram. Re-install app?
Star Wars uprising runs pretty good on my moto g3... few hiccups but overall pretty good.
I don't think overlooking is required at all coz Cpu seems capable enough as I already mentioned that lower spec xiaomi phone can run this game without lag ?
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Nougat - Is it worth it?

I'm currently using DirtyUnicorn ROM on my 16GB Shield (Wifi) model. I only use this ROM because of how stable and smooth it is.
I've never used the original factory ROM by Nvidia but as the recent Nougat release, I'm thinking of moving to Nouagt Original ROM. So I want to ask you guys who are using the 5.0/5.1 update on Shield Tab.
How have your experience been so far? Is it running smoothly for a light use (no gaming just media stuff)
How's the battery life compared to Marshmallow? Is it better than Xposed with Greenify+Amplify?
and above all, is there any Nvidia bloatware on original ROM and do they affect battery life?
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I'm currently using DirtyUnicorn ROM on my 16GB Shield (Wifi) model. I only use this ROM because of how stable and smooth it is.
I've never used the original factory ROM by Nvidia but as the recent Nougat release, I'm thinking of moving to Nouagt Original ROM. So I want to ask you guys who are using the 5.0/5.1 update on Shield Tab.
How have your experience been so far? Is it running smoothly for a light use (no gaming just media stuff)
How's the battery life compared to Marshmallow? Is it better than Xposed with Greenify+Amplify?
and above all, is there any Nvidia bloatware on original ROM and do they affect battery life?
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I'll say this, I haven't rooted my k1 just yet because the dev support isn't quite want I'm used too. Before the android 7 updates I was beginning to regret my purchase (I've only had this thing maybe a month) but can now say I genuinely enjoy using my k1. I also don't game a whole lot. When I do game it's things like adventure capitalist and I can get a solid 3 1\2 hours sot. Sometimes 5 hours with no gaming. Also I never go above ~%60 screen brightness, that makes a sizable difference
I'm using 5.1 update on the Shield K1 tablet. First of all, if you're moving to Nougat, don't get the 5.0. That version has got many crashing issues and Nvidia have to withdraw the release, and they came back with 5.1.
So far, 5.1 is the smoothest stock rom on Shield tablet I've ever used. (I never root nor use any custom roms on my tablet). Android 7.0 has improved a lot. Even though you can't see directly on the surface, there are many improvements underneath (ask Google if you want to know what are those improvements).
For me, yes, it worth to move to Nougat. I'm not aware of any bloatware that hog the system. But it's always good to uninstall or disable any apps that you're not going to use.
I love the 5.1 update I have set the power plan to battery saver, and have brightness low, I gamed a lot especially GeForce now and half life 2 and borderlands 2 I get 5 hours screen on time also watching man UTD game also
Also I have set up apps I use a lot outside of games to be using 50 percent of cpu and it works fantastically
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