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How do I make GTA3 run smooth?

I am on stock 2.3.6. I installed 1.2 apk and it really lags alot.
Xperia play unrooted and stock seems to play it quite smoothly, nexus S is more powerful so surely it should run smooth??

I have the same problem and I also like to know how to fix it.. The game runs reaply badly for my usual gaming habits. I use Matrix kernel @ 1.46GHz and the latest CM9 nightly. I get really high bench scores for 4.0.3 and overall performance kicks the ass of my friends' stock Galaxy SII I-9100.
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Delete the audio files.

Firstly I would suggest posting this in the correct section for more responses - q&a. Second, perhaps check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103284
Tegra 2 Games on the Nexus S
I've never tried it because I have yet to experience the problems you describe but perhaps it's worth a try.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes

Harbb said:
Delete the audio files.
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Whats the point then of playing?
Bruce lee roy said:
Firstly I would suggest posting this in the correct section for more responses - q&a. Second, perhaps check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103284
Tegra 2 Games on the Nexus S
I've never tried it because I have yet to experience the problems you describe but perhaps it's worth a try.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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I have generally found the general section to be most responsive. That method you are saying is via root and I am not rooted.

I always played it on mute anyway, and after deleting the audio files i got a massive jump in performance (audio was being processed even with volume at 0). Personal preference, but a noticeable fps jump.

So I guess the game isnt optimized for powerVR?? It seems to run fine on adreno 205, this is disappointing.
I mainly want to play it for the nostalgic bit and the audio is really important part of it.

The nostalgia value of my GTA3 experience was with a sound bug that forced the rain to play constantly. Not really the highlight of the game for me
The sound on the Nexus S seems kind of delayed and i've noticed many games that slow down a little as sounds are meant to kick in. I don't know exactly why, maybe mediaserver isn't given good enough priority. This seems to be the same issue that plagued my GTA3 adventures though.

Gambler_3 said:
Whats the point then of playing?
I have generally found the general section to be most responsive. That method you are saying is via root and I am not rooted.
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perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
I don't think the processor is to blame for your inability to play the game. The ns processors have proven to be more than capable of handling most processes. Rather, the stock software does not allow the hardware to reach its full potential. In other words, the nexus s is a peacock you; you've got to let it fly.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes

Bruce lee roy said:
perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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I havent experienced lag in any other game and I have played a few. Asphalt 6 runs smooth as well.
And btw my audio runs perfect and never stutters.
I saw youtube video of overclocked nexus S running GTA3 and even that had performance issues.

just install 1.3, i used to have major lag on 1.2 on my nexus s but on 1.3 i have no lag. Huge improvement!

Bruce lee roy said:
perhaps being rooted is the reason I have yet to experience the problems you describe. I play gta and games which are more graphic intensive than gta with np.
I don't think the processor is to blame for your inability to play the game. The ns processors have proven to be more than capable of handling most processes. Rather, the stock software does not allow the hardware to reach its full potential. In other words, the nexus s is a peacock you; you've got to let it fly.
You without me is like Harold Melvin without the Blue Notes
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Peacocks don't fly

renaming the "audio" folder into "audio1" made the game much much smoother. i don't mind the missing sound. But isn't there a way to make it run even better? i still experience some massive lag problems...

Huge gain in performance by deleting the Audio folder. Thanks for the tip, now I can enjoy this game.
Controls take some getting to.
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guru2468 said:
I have the same problem and I also like to know how to fix it.. The game runs reaply badly for my usual gaming habits. I use Matrix kernel @ 1.46GHz and the latest CM9 nightly. I get really high bench scores for 4.0.3 and overall performance kicks the ass of my friends' stock Galaxy SII I-9100.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
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If you honestly think that your quadrant score makes your phone with a single A8 cortex core faster than two A9 cores there is something seriously wrong with you. Software tweaks can make up to 1% difference in actual performance.
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migueldbr said:
just install 1.3, i used to have major lag on 1.2 on my nexus s but on 1.3 i have no lag. Huge improvement!
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Just did that and you got me excited as there was no lag in the opening cutscene. But it was back as soon as I started driving.
The sad part is I thought I wouldnt care about the game as the controls would be really bad but they arent that bad, it's very much playable but the performance is the issue.

Gambler_3 said:
Xperia play unrooted and stock seems to play it quite smoothly, nexus S is more powerful so surely it should run smooth??
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Don't forget that the xperia play has a super fast graphics chip. That's why most of the time it will outdo may other newer phones with gaming in mind

Give this a try:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22884431#post22884431
For the Galaxy S, but works on my nexus s. (5 FPS improvement)

jaju123 said:
If you honestly think that your quadrant score makes your phone with a single A8 cortex core faster than two A9 cores there is something seriously wrong with you. Software tweaks can make up to 1% difference in actual performance.
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I didn't say that the hardware is faster, I just sayed that the real world performance of my Nexus us better in this particular case. Also I sayed that my scores are high, but I didn't really relate that to making a significant difference...
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greenie25 said:
Don't forget that the xperia play has a super fast graphics chip. That's why most of the time it will outdo may other newer phones with gaming in mind
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Isn't our SGX540 faster? I would say the game is just well optimized for the Xperia Play. Our GPU is pretty ok, it's actually still built in to the Galaxy Nexus (although I think it is higher clocked in this newer phone
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Experiences with Shadowgun THD (and any other 'THD' games) on TF700

Hey guys,
I had this on another forum, but unfortunately that forum has moderators who take their job way too seriously and the topic was moved to a dead section before I could get more than one reply. But that's not important, so...
I am looking for everyone and anyone's experiences with Shadowgun THD on this device. I was digging through the Play Store's reviews and saw a ton of TF201 owners who couldn't even play the game (and a few that recommended it oddly enough), and the one TF700 review I was able to find said he experienced some lag and force closes.
Have any of you guys played the THD version on your Infinity? Experience any issues? Is it worth the (supposedly minor) graphic enhancements?
I have not purchased the normal version, I was holding out buying the game until I got this tablet, but now I am not sure if the increased graphic display will drag down gameplay. The bit of experience I had with a Madfinger game is DeadTrigger. Even though this game is not specifically a Tegra version, I am able to play on the Ultra-High graphics setting with no issues. I will say this, watching zombies fly backwards after being shot with a shotgun on an Android device is damned impressive.
Any experience or thoughts is greatly appreciated. The one reply I received on the aforementioned board was that the user experienced no issues, but I would like to hear from as many people as possible. Thanks!
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No problems for me except the game isn't outputting native 1920x1200. It looks to be an upscaled 1280x800 so it will look relatively blurry on the infinity's screen.

Plays fine on mine. Especially fun using one of my PS3 controllers through the Sixaxis app
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Keion said:
No problems for me except the game isn't outputting native 1920x1200. It looks to be an upscaled 1280x800 so it will look relatively blurry on the infinity's screen.
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Is it the same with the normal version?
stanglifemike said:
Plays fine on mine. Especially fun using one of my PS3 controllers through the Sixaxis app
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Yeah the main reason I'm getting this game is because it is one of the few shooters with gamepad support, which is way more snappy than touch emulation.
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I sometimes have trouble getting this game to play smoothly after I start shooting. If I reboot the tablet or just clear all running tasks using the task manager, it plays very well.
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Kind of related, I just tried Auralux for the first time on my JB TF700 and it laggs like hell, every 5 or 10 seconds it freezes, anyone else with this problem? I thought this was a "famous" game everyone has, but I doubt it if it laggs like this.

I never played Shadowgun THD for too long on the TF700 cause the framerate is way too low. I also experienced a few crashes. The weird thing is, I played this game a lot on my HTC One X, and never had any low framerate or crash issue. I know the screen resolution on the two devices is different, but as someone mentioned before, Shadowgun isn't displayed in 1920*1080 on the TF700.
I had no issue in Dead Trigger. The framerate is much more solid, even if the resolution of the game is higher.
I also played all the free levels of Auralux, and there was no freezes, the game was really enjoyable. However, in Beach Buggy Blitz, it's impossible to max the graphics settings if you want to keep a decent framerate. Once again, no issue on my One X, but unlike Shadowgun, the game is displayed in Full HD on the TF700, where it's "only" 720p on the One X.

Absolutely no problems with shadowgun or NOVA 3... after jelly bean update NOVA 3 flies!

interesting post as i play the regular Shadowgun on my tf700 with no problems. the graphics actually look really good and game play has been solid for me. i actually just emailed the game developers yesterday because i thought i had the THD version and realized it was the regular, i was requesting if they could help with switching, which they agreed to do (buy THD and they will refund the regular). but now im having second thoughts after reading this post. i may buy it, see how it plays and return if not as good or better.
i also play Dead Trigger and the graphics and game play are excellent on it as well.
actually, all my games are playing MUCH better after JB update. this is my second tf700 (the first had accidental damage and was replaced via squaretrade) and actually things on this one seem to run pretty good overall.

Zaza le Nounours said:
I never played Shadowgun THD for too long on the TF700 cause the framerate is way too low. I also experienced a few crashes. The weird thing is, I played this game a lot on my HTC One X, and never had any low framerate or crash issue. I know the screen resolution on the two devices is different, but as someone mentioned before, Shadowgun isn't displayed in 1920*1080 on the TF700.
I had no issue in Dead Trigger. The framerate is much more solid, even if the resolution of the game is higher.
I also played all the free levels of Auralux, and there was no freezes, the game was really enjoyable. However, in Beach Buggy Blitz, it's impossible to max the graphics settings if you want to keep a decent framerate. Once again, no issue on my One X, but unlike Shadowgun, the game is displayed in Full HD on the TF700, where it's "only" 720p on the One X.
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Hmm that's weird, any idea what the problem might be for me? I've tried to close all tasks with the stock app manager and closed all tasks in the task bar. I play the game but it's annoying as hell when it freezes every 5 seconds. May it that it's a hardware problem? Auralux seems fun to play...if it would work.
I just tried Dead trigger also, and it also tends to lag...don't think it did before JB update though.

kotidoti said:
Hmm that's weird, any idea what the problem might be for me? I've tried to close all tasks with the stock app manager and closed all tasks in the task bar. I play the game but it's annoying as hell when it freezes every 5 seconds. May it that it's a hardware problem? Auralux seems fun to play...if it would work.
I just tried Dead trigger also, and it also tends to lag...don't think it did before JB update though.
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So, to be sure, I restarted Auralux... and yes, there are freezes indeed. Maybe not as often as you describe, but freezes nonetheless.
The only thing that has changed between the last time I played Auralux and now is that I upgraded my tablet with the official JB update. I don't know if it's related, or even why it would be.
Maybe someone with a custom JB rom could try the game (it's free) and tell us if he's also facing such freezing issue.

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Zaza le Nounours said:
So, to be sure, I restarted Auralux... and yes, there are freezes indeed. Maybe not as often as you describe, but freezes nonetheless.
The only thing that has changed between the last time I played Auralux and now is that I upgraded my tablet with the official JB update. I don't know if it's related, or even why it would be.
Maybe someone with a custom JB rom could try the game (it's free) and tell us if he's also facing such freezing issue.
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To bump this thread I'm going to show you a video of my gameplay too.
www youtube com/watch?v=MjE_3quUJl4&feature=g-upl
Just add the periods.
Anyone know how to fix this? Is anyone else witnessing the same problem?

Auralux bug is confirmed by the developers and they are working on a fix. It is an issue with the Infinity in combination with JB.
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I_EAT_BABIES said:
Hey guys,
I had this on another forum, but unfortunately that forum has moderators who take their job way too seriously and the topic was moved to a dead section before I could get more than one reply. But that's not important, so...
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Good luck. Hopefully one of the mods here won't move it to the Q&A forum effectively killing it. I wish that forum didn't exist, the mods have killed several of my threads that had just gotten going in generating some discussion by moving it to the Q&A forum which basically stops the thread cold. That is a write-only forum on this board.
I am looking for everyone and anyone's experiences with Shadowgun THD on this device. I was digging through the Play Store's reviews and saw a ton of TF201 owners who couldn't even play the game (and a few that recommended it oddly enough), and the one TF700 review I was able to find said he experienced some lag and force closes.
Have any of you guys played the THD version on your Infinity? Experience any issues? Is it worth the (supposedly minor) graphic enhancements?
I have not purchased the normal version, I was holding out buying the game until I got this tablet, but now I am not sure if the increased graphic display will drag down gameplay. The bit of experience I had with a Madfinger game is DeadTrigger. Even though this game is not specifically a Tegra version, I am able to play on the Ultra-High graphics setting with no issues. I will say this, watching zombies fly backwards after being shot with a shotgun on an Android device is damned impressive.
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I have the non-THD version and it is awesome. The reviews you saw where it was failing were probably due to ICS NVIDIA driver bug that effectively made the TFs under ICS unable to play 3d games.

Vo01985 said:
Auralux bug is confirmed by the developers and they are working on a fix. It is an issue with the Infinity in combination with JB.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T
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Ah okey, so I am not the only one having the freezes this frequently?

Has anyone tried playing Shadowgun THD in cleanrom? Does it make any difference in performance? I know the benchmark scores and general tasking is much faster and less laggy.

I'd just like to say my game runs like a dream. JB + root, nothing else. The rest is stock
Also the multiplayer beta runs just as well. Its a baller ass game

seven2099 said:
Its a baller ass game
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Just to clarify: something being "baller ass" means it's "good", right?

Haha yes, American slang gets pretty ridiculous.
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The beta version is sick!
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Games on acer a700

Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
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Hi matey,
I've been trying Dead Trigger and that one worked just fine with me. Both saving and performance mode. Dark Knight Rises (and the Amazing Spider-Man) lagged for me too. Can't really tell if this is a hardware or software limitation. Wild Blood (also a Gameloft game) lagged for me too but then after an update that was solved. I installed Modern Combat 4, which lags a little too. Especially in the cutscenes.
That's why I'm going to try out the app you mentioned, let's see if that fixes some things. Thanks for that.
I'm really hoping Vorbeth (awesome person) is able to overclock the processor (CPU). He's already done overclocking the GPU. I think after he succeeds overclocking the CPU, things are going a lot smoother.

The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.

nex86 said:
The problem is not the CPU. on High performance, the cpu score is even better than on the Nexus 7.
The problem that causes the lags is the high display resolution since the tegra 3 is only designed to run fluently in 1280x800.
Vorbeth's custom Kernel to overclock the GPU helps a little. But I think the bottleneck is the vram speed since the framebuffer on the A700 is bigger than on other tablets.
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Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
The TEGRA 3 isn't specifically designed for that resultion. Optimized seems more applicable, since the CPU just processes the stuff. Overclocking would in theory process even more stuff, so that will include data from the GPU to the display, I guess. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,

TomONeill said:
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I've installed AnTuTu Cpu Master, but what is "Go MaxSpeed Load"? It's default value is 85,
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I have to check that, haven't even seen that option. Anyway, no idea what its for.
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TomONeill said:
Can you elaborate on the vram? I'm not familair with that, really.
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The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.

nex86 said:
The vram is shared on the main ram which is DDR2 only on the A510/A700.
All other Tegra 3 tablets have DDR3 that should bring a bit more performance.
The A700 is basically based on the A510. The only difference is the display.
So the Asus TF700 should bring a better performance at the same CPU speed due to a faster RAM type.
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I see your point. That means we're just doomed then :/

putti71 said:
Hi together!
Today I tried some HD games on our tablet.
I was trying dead trigger and the dark knight rises, both lagged a lot.
I tried with high performance but didn't help.
How are your experiences with games?
Edit: I just installed cpu master antutu and put scaling on demand. I think it's better now.
Perhaps someone else can try this out and confirm this.
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Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother

casper326 said:
Which version OS are you using?
In my experience, When A700 is 4.04 Dead trigger is fxxking lag.
After update to 4.1, all performance becom smoother
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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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putti71 said:
I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...

casper326 said:
dark knight... I haven't try it.
But A700 is using full HD screen... not every game optimized for this resolution...
TF700 also will meet this problem...
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mmmm,
wondering if we can lower the resolution to say 720p.... just a thought

I already had this thought since I got the A700.
It would be nice if it's possible to change the output resolution to 1280x800 that it gets upscaled to 1920x1200.
I have read up about changing the resolution on android and the key might be the kernel start parameters in the bootloader.
but also patching the display driver could do it.

If we change the kernel, there is no way back, only flashing the original kernel.
I think the best way is to wait and hope that the game developers come up with some solution, hopefully.
When I bought the HTC one x, the situation was similar. There were only a few games working. And now, all of the HD games work.
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I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.

nex86 said:
I really doubt that the game developers will come with a solution for FullHD tablets, especially not gameloft since they care ****-all about the A700 or the Tegra 3 itself.
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I hope you're wrong
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I hope you're wrong
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The One X got supported as it was HTC's Flagship phone, selling quite well, Full HD Tablets don't sell so well, so they won't even invest the ££ needed to support the lesser known tablets.
They may support Full HD for the nexus 10, but thats not a Tegra device

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I am on Jellybean 4.1. Dead trigger is getting better after playing it for a while, but the dark knight is the problem
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i'm also on JB, i play dark knight fluently. However amazing spider man lags big time, too bad i liked the game and my son also..
I've flashed that GPU kernel maybe that solves dark knight.

I'm on JB (RV18RC01_EMEA_FR, build 1.052) and the games you talk (expect spiderman wich I don't have) run smoothly on my tablet.
Some games received an update that solve lag but Acer make the system better and better.
One game lag for me it's NFS most wanted. It is playable but the car seem to run slowly.
I regret that some big developer (Game Loft is the perfect example) don't support HD tablet and their games don't appear on Play Store.
But if this game are downloaded with a supported device (my Xperia S) and loaded on tab they work perfectly (Nova 3).
Envoyé depuis mon A700 avec Tapatalk

with Iconian 2.4 they do appear on the playstore, but Nova 3 is still unplayable slow.

Perhaps because I buy Nova 3 directly from Game Loft.
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Dungeon Hunter 4

OMG is this game laggy on this tablet. Is anyone else playing this game with no lag? If so what did you do. My Samsung S3 plays this game with zero lag. But I keep changing Roms and I have no idea how to save this game. Any help would be great... Thanks
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Runs smooth for me on balanced mode besides the characters walking animation not being smooth. Every time he takes two steps I feel a slight stop and go in the game.
Cromi 3.4.7 (jb4.1.1) with hunds kernel v2.2

Thx for the reply. Looks like I might need to root my tablet. Since the 4. 2 update this tablet is very laggy.
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05Warrior said:
OMG is this game laggy on this tablet. Is anyone else playing this game with no lag? If so what did you do. My Samsung S3 plays this game with zero lag. But I keep changing Roms and I have no idea how to save this game. Any help would be great... Thanks
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The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).

codeinish said:
The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).
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I don't think the tablet being too weak for games would be correct. This tablet has the cpu/gpu to run them. There is something else that is keeping games from having full compatibility or smoothness with this tablet. You can search and find theories from game developers being too lazy to properly code or there being an underlining issue with Tegra3 chips that Nvidia never addressed but was supposedly working on a patch for. More likely it's the high resolution of the screen which we all ready know causes a performance hit. I don't see that as being week since it is giving us a beautiful picture when using the tablet for various tasks. For those running a custom rom, is there the option to lower the resolution of the screen for extra performance?
To the original poster, not make it sound like you don't know what your tablet is doing, but are you running anything in the background or accidentally have battery saver set? I will try downloading this game and see what I get performance wise. I'm running a fresh stock install of 4.1 firmware.
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No problems for me running the game on stock firmware 4.1. Ran it in both performance and balanced mode.

Also im on cromi-x 4.5 with hunds 3.0.6 kernel today, running close to smooth with hunds kernel app that sets the cpu/gpu for games. Sadly i cant run the game on medium setting because the app wont save the settings after game relaunches
Edit: got it to change

fsured said:
I don't think the tablet being too weak for games would be correct. This tablet has the cpu/gpu to run them. There is something else that is keeping games from having full compatibility or smoothness with this tablet. You can search and find theories from game developers being too lazy to properly code or there being an underlining issue with Tegra3 chips that Nvidia never addressed but was supposedly working on a patch for. More likely it's the high resolution of the screen which we all ready know causes a performance hit. I don't see that as being week since it is giving us a beautiful picture when using the tablet for various tasks. For those running a custom rom, is there the option to lower the resolution of the screen for extra performance?
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I stated that the tf700 is too weak for this game.
I agree that the tf700 has got the potential to be a game perfomer, but unfortunately it ain't.
You elaborated the reasons for this and I think you're right.
Yet, we are not living in theories but in reality where game developers skip our device
(I tried to address some of them asking for a fix, but to no avail).
Here is an example of a correspondence I had with Get Set games inc.:
"Dear Dev,
My almost 2 year old daughter is mad about Mega Run (which she keep calling "Monkey Circles").
I am an old fan of Mega Run and Mega Jump too.
The issue is that the game's graphics are not optimised for the 10 inch screen of the Asus Infinity (TF700).
Therefore the graphics are a bit blurry.
I would appreciate it if you could help me find a solution for what I have described,
or maybe issue a version that will be optimised for our tf700's screen.
Hope my request will be considered since as I have written, we love your application.
Thanks with advance and keep up the good work.
REPLY:
Thanks for getting in contact with us and for the feedback. It is great to hear that you and your daughter have been enjoying Mega Run. We have just release Mega Run on Android, and with that release we chose to only have one set of graphics at a medium/high resolution. The reason we chose to do this is that most Android devices fit this resolution very well. In the future, we hope to have higher resolution graphics for tablets such as the Asus Infinity.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Mike"
IMHO - this is not a standard machine... I should have learned this sooner (before I purchased it).
Anyways, the TF700 has it's strong areas: great device for playing all kinds of media and even some games.
The mSD slot is awesome and all in all I enjoy it.

It runs fairly well, actually. Frankly, it runs smoother than Skyrim ever did on my PC. (That game used to literally freeze every 2 steps to re-render the scene. Crappy coding from Bethesda... As per bloody usual.)
codeinish said:
Here is an example of a correspondence I had with Get Set games inc.:
"Dear Dev,
My almost 2 year old daughter is mad about Mega Run (which she keep calling "Monkey Circles").
I am an old fan of Mega Run and Mega Jump too.
The issue is that the game's graphics are not optimised for the 10 inch screen of the Asus Infinity (TF700).
Therefore the graphics are a bit blurry.
I would appreciate it if you could help me find a solution for what I have described,
or maybe issue a version that will be optimised for our tf700's screen.
Hope my request will be considered since as I have written, we love your application.
Thanks with advance and keep up the good work.
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Thanks for getting in contact with us and for the feedback. It is great to hear that you and your daughter have been enjoying Mega Run. We have just release Mega Run on Android, and with that release we chose to only have one set of graphics at a medium/high resolution. The reason we chose to do this is that most Android devices fit this resolution very well. In the future, we hope to have higher resolution graphics for tablets such as the Asus Infinity.
Sorry for the inconvenience,
Mike"
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You could've known the game would be blurry. Games are made with the 'hyped' devices in mind: The Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy S3. Which both run 1280x800, as opposed to 'our' 1920x1200.. (Quite a significant size increase.)
Anything with a higher resolution is a HD version, and specifically has HD listed behind it. ('Angry Birds HD'.)
Give it +-six months. Then, the SGS4 and the Note 3 will be the top devices alongside the HTC One and the potential new Nexus. And developers will have no other choice but to finally make games and apps in HD.

ShadowLea said:
It runs fairly well, actually. Frankly, it runs smoother than Skyrim ever did on my PC. (That game used to literally freeze every 2 steps to re-render the scene. Crappy coding from Bethesda... As per bloody usual.)
You could've known the game would be blurry. Games are made with the 'hyped' devices in mind: The Galaxy Tab and the Galaxy S3. Which both run 1280x800, as opposed to 'our' 1920x1200.. (Quite a significant size increase.)
Anything with a higher resolution is a HD version, and specifically has HD listed behind it. ('Angry Birds HD'.)
Give it +-six months. Then, the SGS4 and the Note 3 will be the top devices alongside the HTC One and the potential new Nexus. And developers will have no other choice but to finally make games and apps in HD.
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I agree with you that eventually 1920x1080 will be a common resolution for Android devices, but I still believe Tegra 3 is too weak to run those games at full HD resolution (all Full HD devices I know have either a Snapdragon S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600 to power that many pixels). I have seen quite a few games that lag miserably on my tf700, even if it is optimized for Tegra. Example, Beach Buggy Blitz (running at max setting of this game is a big no-no on my tf700).
As for Skyrim, I really have no complaint about frame drop and stuttering, it runs quite smoothly on my laptop. Nevertheless, given the diversity of PC hardware, it could just be that I was lucky to have fully compatible hardware.

I don't agree : Dungeon Hunter 4 is very laggy on my tab and i am not playing that game anymore due to that issue. But i have played many hours to The Bard's Tale and it worked nearly perfectly (it would lag only when a lot of characters and huge effects, that means about 10 seconds every 4 hours) and bard's tale is imo more beautiful than dh4 and still it was developed in 2012 when hd screens were very rare. So imo the dh4 lag issue comes from poor design and programming.
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huy_lonewolf said:
I agree with you that eventually 1920x1080 will be a common resolution for Android devices, but I still believe Tegra 3 is too weak to run those games at full HD resolution (all Full HD devices I know have either a Snapdragon S4 Pro or Snapdragon 600 to power that many pixels). I have seen quite a few games that lag miserably on my tf700, even if it is optimized for Tegra. Example, Beach Buggy Blitz (running at max setting of this game is a big no-no on my tf700).
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It's primarily the I/O issue, not the Tegra 3.
The problem is that games are optimized for snapdragons because that's what the hyped, common-cattle owned devices (SGS3/4 & GT2) run.
SoulCraft THD: Perfectly.
SHADOWGUN THD: Perfectly.
Samurai II: Vengeance THD: Perfectly.
Puddle THD: Perfectly.
Zombie Driver THD: Perfectly.
Renaissance Blood THD: Runs well.
The Bard's Tale: Fine.
N.O.V.A. 3: Some issue with green images in main menu/intro, Game itself runs fine.
So no, it's not the Tegra 3. It's lazy developers and crap engines.
As for Skyrim, I really have no complaint about frame drop and stuttering, it runs quite smoothly on my laptop. Nevertheless, given the diversity of PC hardware, it could just be that I was lucky to have fully compatible hardware.
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It's since been fixed in the patches. The issue occured during the first 3 updates (including vanilla base.). At one point I had backwards flying dragons that spun around breathing fire in mid air and stopped every few seconds as the game froze and unfroze :laugh: The engine Skyrim runs on is 12 years old, and instead of using a clean version they retasked the Fallout one with all the coding still cluttering it.

The main fault in this tablet is the i/o. Everything else is perfectly big enough to run the screen. With such crappy i/o, the tablet cannot cache applications at a rate needed, especially for files made for Full HD screens. This can be solved with a B2R tpye script or Data2SD. With Data2SD, even on a pretty cheap card, the tablet runs much much smoother. This is why the browser on stock runs so terribly. The internal i/o cant cache it fast enough. So, the Tega 3 is more then enough of power, but the problem is the i/o, which can only even start to be tweaked by unlocking/rooting, but even then there is no fix.
Tylor
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Tylorw1 said:
The main fault in this tablet is the i/o. Everything else is perfectly big enough to run the screen. With such crappy i/o, the tablet cannot cache applications at a rate needed, especially for files made for Full HD screens.
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GPU performance has nothing to do with I/O.
I/O is slow for random writes, yes - but games usually don't write a lot to storage. The GPU is slow because it is simply not very powerful. See here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6036/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t-review/4
With good programming, it can drive the full HD screen with acceptable framerate (see Epic Citadel), but apparently not every engine is so well optimized.

codeinish said:
The tf700 is too weak for this game (and others...).
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I notice the Nook HD+ that also has a 1080p display seems to play games smoother than the 700. Performance is about in between the 700 and 300, with the 300 being better overall.
The 4470 gpu is more robust for higher def displays and has dual channel memory, but a dual core. I would have expected the net result to be a wash, but does seem the dual channel memory might be the difference.
For game emulators though that are cpu heavy like MAMEreloaded, the Nook is a little faster. Gets hot in the bottom right corner though.

horrible
Yeah i tried this game. Changed graphics settings in game to lowest and had performance mode on and it still lagged like crazy. Not really my kind of game to begin with so it didn't upset me too badly, but i would have expected more from such a high end tablet.

I have uninstalled the game today : too laggy and i still believe that its code is bad (bard's tale is so much smoother on my same tab)
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I know this is a bit of an old thread, I just not stumbled upon it. I've been using cromi-x for quite some time, and on earlier versions I didn't have much issue until I got into higher levels where more monsters generated, then it would lag briefly and go back to normal. As of lately I haven't even been able to play the game. I've played a few other games that seem to have similar features and get zero lag. Though I'm not a coder or developer, I feel that this is a issue with the game itself combined with i/o limitations of our tablet. SDBags has done some amazing work on his rom. I've tried all sorts of kernel and tweak combinations, none of which seem to correct the issue. To make the issue worse I was level 42 and lost my entire game and $40 worth of purchases that gameloft has yet to refund me. That, of course doesn't have anything to do with the laggy issue. I thought I would bump the thread to see if anyone else has come up with anything.

What is the problem with xoom?

You know, i'm supposed to love all android things, i love my smartphone, but with tablets, i have an xoom that traumatized me because issues, i don't buy any other tablet because that, i don't know if it's only with me or i'm doing something wrong.
The true is that the xoom have a problem, a problem specially with the screen, i don't know, it's not lag, looks like it is but i think is not, for my knowledge on the subject it's with screen refresh frequency that it's not high, is that why you see pixelated movement of screen objects when you do a slowly fast swipe.
It's like the image of icons don't move in the same time and broke the transition, i want to know if that is a hardware issue, is that why xoom have that problem, or it's because Tegra 2 can't handle xoom? I don't want flame, i love my xoom, really but i want to resolve that problem, it's annoying me, i have an iPad 1 with single core 1ghz, xoom is dual core 1ghz with 1 gb, my iPad have 256 and you don't have that problem. Can someone help or explain that for me?
Sorry, my English, i'm Japanese.

I don't have this problem with mine, maybe your ROM is too cluttered. The info you passed is not enough to specify your problem, can you provide some more system info ?

XxLordxX said:
I don't have this problem with mine, maybe your ROM is too cluttered. The info you passed is not enough to specify your problem, can you provide some more system info ?
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I'm Running Stock 4.0.4 Icecream Sandwich, all stock, i already use CM10.1 and EOS 4.2.2. What i want to say is that my xoom is not fancy on transition and all xoom that i saw is that way too, i have a Galaxy SIII, i know it's a quad-core actually processor but i'm still compare, i haven't lag, it's like the transition it's not fancy, it's smooth but not fancy, it's like play video game on LCD/LED TV, LED have problems with refresh response that make HDMI Video Games not smooth, that's why i said about screen refreshs.
Also i got an Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 in my hands on Store and compared with my xoom display, i will say again, it's not lag or slight lag, it's about the things moving on the screen, you see the trail if i can call it in that way.
I will make a video to show you what i'm talking about.

iSaoHatake said:
I'm Running Stock 4.0.4 Icecream Sandwich, all stock, i already use CM10.1 and EOS 4.2.2. What i want to say is that my xoom is not fancy on transition and all xoom that i saw is that way too, i have a Galaxy SIII, i know it's a quad-core actually processor but i'm still compare, i haven't lag, it's like the transition it's not fancy, it's smooth but not fancy, it's like play video game on LCD/LED TV, LED have problems with refresh response that make HDMI Video Games not smooth, that's why i said about screen refreshs.
Also i got an Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 in my hands on Store and compared with my xoom display, i will say again, it's not lag or slight lag, it's about the things moving on the screen, you se the trail if i can call it in that way.
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Hum... But you mean only in the launcher you find the "lag"? The stock launcher has some problems, I'm running EOS 4, with Nova launcher (one screen) and my Xoom is blazing fast, it's not a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 neither a S3, but it's working well. Try changing the launcher, installing the ROM again and changing the launcher. Mine is quite fast, however I have a friend whose isn't as fast as mine because of the settings
"This Story Ends Where It Began" - Octavarium (Dream Theater)

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Hum... But you mean only in the launcher you find the "lag"? The stock launcher has some problems, I'm running EOS 4, with Nova launcher (one screen) and my Xoom is blazing fast, it's not a Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 neither a S3, but it's working well. Try changing the launcher, installing the ROM again and changing the launcher. Mine is quite fast, however I have a friend whose isn't as fast as mine because of the settings
"This Story Ends Where It Began" - Octavarium (Dream Theater)
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As i said, yeah i know, stock launcher have some lag, but it's not about lag, as an example, what a video with a lot of fast footage, if you see on xoom, on PC and on a OLED TV like i have here, TV is the best way followed by PC, but on xoom i have headache seeing fast movements, you see the trace you know, it's not like instant, as i said i will make a video.
What's your ROM?

Okay, I will wait for your video to help I understand more your problem . I'm using EOS 4 on my Xoom (MZ601)
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XxLordxX said:
Okay, I will wait for your video to help I understand more your problem . I'm using EOS 4 on my Xoom (MZ601)
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So a long time ago, i just got my camera today! AAAAAAAAAnnnnnndddd.... here is the vídeo :silly::silly::silly::silly::silly:
It's not a review and not so long, it just show the xoom screen besides others. I advise you to watch on youtube in 720p!

You have a good pronunciation ^^.
I have an idea of how to test if it's a hardware problem. Do you have a HDMI cable? If so, try plugging on your TV and see if the trail is still there, then we can have an idea .

XxLordxX said:
You have a good pronunciation ^^.
I have an idea of how to test if it's a hardware problem. Do you have a HDMI cable? If so, try plugging on your TV and see if the trail is still there, then we can have an idea .
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Oh really, really thanks, when i'm nervous i say a few words wrong (exchanging letters for anothers just like all people do when nervous) XD due to my shy profile, but really thanks, i'm doing videos in english and writing in english just to learn more and more. :victory:
So, about HDMI, yes i have it, but i need to search it, i will try to find and get that working to see, really thanks for support and your attention.
The bad news, if it is hardware, i'm lost due to the warranty period which is over hehe, but thanks again pal! :highfive:

I have 601 32GB 3G and I am very satisfied himself with the new rom 4.2.2

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i don't have the same problem like yours. maybe because of your hardware

Spirit_Guru said:
I have 601 32GB 3G and I am very satisfied himself with the new rom 4.2.2
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You are using 4.2.2 from CM?

The real problem with the Xoom is that tegra 2 is one of the worst Soc's ever made ..
In Benchmarks tegra 2 is close to OMAP4430 , but in real world most of OMAP4430 run perfectly smooth while TEGRA 2 devices can't even run the launcher smooth .
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I have had a combination of Custom Roms and Software that brought the Xoom to a crawl. Currently using latest CM10.1 Nightly, Overclocked with Unified Gapps. A lean amount of Software. I have to say it runs well right now. I do wipe the system fairly often. I try not to dirty flash very often.
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logitechor said:
I have had a combination of Custom Roms and Software that brought the Xoom to a crawl. Currently using latest CM10.1 Nightly, Overclocked with Unified Gapps. A lean amount of Software. I have to say it runs well right now. I do wipe the system fairly often. I try not to dirty flash very often.
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How that you cleaned everything? I hate the /0 partition that transform my SD card into internal memory.

You said your warranty was over, did you buy it new? and experiecning this lattely only? If so, its probably not the hardware, just try out different rom, plus maybe overclock it (as warranty is over anyway)
Hardware issue in my xoom was constant reboots and hangs, so after couple of weeks (yee weeks, I thought it was due to honeycomb) I sent coom to motorola and they fixed it on warranty...
Any way - good luck!