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[Q] Battery Inconsistencies?

Hey guys, is anyone else here experiencing the battery level going up when you restart the phone?
If my battery is at 70%, and I restart it, it'll be at 76% or even higher and remain that way for quite a while (remains a consistantly drain, not a single major drain in a short period of time)
This is something that's been happening since I was stock (Retail device from T-mobile store on launch date)
Here's some info:
-S-OFF using Revolutionary, and then later upgraded to 4.0.0.9 via terminal emulator
-Rooted stock (no rom uploaded)
-1900 mha Anker battery
-Battery stats wiped
-UncleSpoon's battery icon mod
even after all that, it'll still do it. So is it just me, or is everyone else experiencing this?

Yes, you have to re-calibrate your battery stats.
No, the CWM menu option to wipe battery stats is not right, for some reason.
Go get this free app: Battery Calibration
Charge your battery all the way up and let it sit charging for a few minutes after you see the light turn green (while turned on and booted up)
After it's been green for a few minutes, open this app and click the big "calibrate" button, and then un-plug it from the charger.
Let it run down until it turns itself off, without plugging it in. This means no usb to the computer, either - and don't turn it off manually.
After it turns itself off from lack of juice, plug it in (wait about 30 seconds) and then turn it back on. If you turn it on too quickly weird things may happen, depends on how depleted the battery is. (usually there is 1 or 2 % left so it's ok)
Leave it plugged in and turned on until fully charged. After that, you can feel free to play with it, but you should run it up and down a few more times without charging in-between. The first one is critical to do this way, though, or you are just wasting your time.
You MUST be rooted, or it will not work. (said for others who may need this info)
Tip to drain battery - screen brightness all the way up, screen to not turn off, and turn the flashlight app on. Leave it sit for a few hours.
Tip to charge quickly while on: Turn all wireless and data communication off, tap power button to turn screen off (keeping phone on)
Good luck, it'll solve the problem though.

I used battery calibration to wipe my battery stats (I did it in recovery on my 3G Slide, so I'm aware of that alternative method)..
I've let my stock battery get to 0% but that was pre-root.
After reading all the charging problems with the CWM, I was a bit afraid to attempt the 0% drain on the new Anker.
Are you running 4.0.0.9, and does it charge fine? I'd hate to deplete an Anker since I have no external battery charger.

RazoE said:
I used battery calibration to wipe my battery stats (I did it in recovery on my 3G Slide, so I'm aware of that alternative method)..
I've let my stock battery get to 0% but that was pre-root.
After reading all the charging problems with the CWM, I was a bit afraid to attempt the 0% drain on the new Anker.
Are you running 4.0.0.9, and does it charge fine? I'd hate to deplete an Anker since I have no external battery charger.
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Removing the stats only doesn't calibrate the battery, check the calibration guide in my sig, for a correct method that works for any android device.
Read this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036

Ace42 said:
Removing the stats only doesn't calibrate the battery, check the calibration guide in my sig, for a correct method that works for any android device.
Read this too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
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Seriously, that's a good read.

I agree.
What I recommended was better then just wiping battery stats with CWM, but nowhere near as good as what Ace42 linked us up to.
I'd recommend reading those threads and doing that instead, I am more then happy to be corrected and shown a better way.
(FYI - I depleted a stock battery completely, both in CWM 4.0.0.8 and 4.0.0.9 to test the charging issue. You will always be able to charge it in the phone, even if you bring it completely to dead.
The idea that you can't is a myth, and was a concern until it was proven not to be true.)

[Q] Inaccuracy battery indicator?

My battery level indicator displays a higher battery level after rebooting. With an app (Battery Indicator) which is translating level in %, its about 10%.
Rebooting in recovery is also resulting in an higher level, also about 10%.
I'm using Insertcoin 3.4.2 with 2.6.35.14Brickedv1.5 kernel.
Has the custom rom or kernel something to do with displaying inaccurate battery level stats or is this something normal?
Keeping rebooting doesn't deliver me a full charge btw, now that would be something nice

I have somewhat of a similar problem.
I use hyper non-sense 0.5 and today my cell wouldn't charge beyond 99%. I rebooted and only had 92% .
I wiped batterystats before rom flash..
Maybe these issues are somewhat related?

It's known that the battery reporting driver is **** and bugged.
Also, if you reboot, you'll get messed up battery reports than if you power off then back on.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G

Only wipe battery stats when your battery is charge to 100%
Support TrevE! Fuh Q CIQ!

Ok, thanks for the advice. Good to know not to be too much confident on the battery indicator.
Have found another threads about the battery stats and the behaviour of li-ion batteries also (the search button was gone for a few days, but back at the moment ), reading already...

Calibrating battery.

So i charged to 100% and callibrated and left the phone on the side for a while as ive heard battery callibration works better when battery is naturally drained. However, its been a week and its still at 100% -_____-. i dont plan on waiting a month or so just to make sure its perfectly callibrated. Is there a better way to do this? . Thanks guysss
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Light-라이트 said:
So i charged to 100% and callibrated and left the phone on the side for a while as ive heard battery callibration works better when battery is naturally drained. However, its been a week and its still at 100% -_____-. i dont plan on waiting a month or so just to make sure its perfectly callibrated. Is there a better way to do this? . Thanks guysss
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Naturally drained? Regular use is needed to drain the battery. An unused battery (I have a couple) will take months to drain. Just use the phone as you do in your every day usage. Let it get down to about 5 to 10% then fully charge and calibrate.

you cant calibrate a lithium ion battery. in fact draining them is bad for the battery. however if youre having problems with the phone not reading the battery percentage correctly you need to wipe the batterystats.bin using either clockworkrecovery or just download the battery calibration app from the market.

regP said:
you cant calibrate a lithium ion battery. in fact draining them is bad for the battery. however if youre having problems with the phone not reading the battery percentage correctly you need to wipe the batterystats.bin using either clockworkrecovery or just download the battery calibration app from the market.
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Really? Cycling the battery a few times for better performance is a myth?

xAshxMoneyx said:
Really? Cycling the battery a few times for better performance is a myth?
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yes for lithium battery it is. the older ni-cd batteries required this.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
infact..this result shows that you should charge often. 10-15% discharge..and charge cycles provided the longest battery life.
this article is very very good!

That's good information. While I didn't know all that I did find the whole calibration idea a waste of effort. I've tried calibrating the battery on a couple phones and my battery life has never increased. The most that ever happens is I'll find myself away from home with no charger and have to quit playing with phone so I have enough juice left in case of an emergency.
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regP said:
you cant calibrate a lithium ion battery. in fact draining them is bad for the battery. however if youre having problems with the phone not reading the battery percentage correctly you need to wipe the batterystats.bin using either clockworkrecovery or just download the battery calibration app from the market.
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No, Lithium-ion batteries do not have a memory effect.
Technically, you are not calibrating the battery, you are calibrating your phone's battery gauge. The easiest way to do that is with the Battery Calibration app.
1. Open the Battery Calibration app screen. With the phone on, charge to 100%, then let the phone continue charging for another 15 min.
2. Press the "Calibrate Battery" button on the app (deletes batterystats.bin), Close Battery Calibration app then TURN THE PHONE OFF IMMEDIATELY!
3. Disconnect AC charger
4. Remove battery
5. Wait 30 seconds, then re-insert battery
6. Charge phone with phone off for half an hour
This tops off the charge on the battery.
7. Disconnect charger and turn phone on
As the phone turns on it will create a new batterystats.bin and record the high battery voltage as 100% battery.
8. Use the phone normally and run it down to 0% when the phone shuts off.
The phone now knows the curve of this battery as it relates to your phone's ROM
9. Charge the phone for ten minutes, then turn the phone on and let it continue charging to 100%
This lets batterystats.bin know your phone's charging curve
10. At 100%, remove charger
Now use the phone normally. You will be happy to get an extra few hours use of your phone.
If you really want to get the most out of your battery, get the Battery Monitor Widget Pro app. It keeps a close watch on your battery and also allows you to change batterystats.bin files for different batteries.
And always remember to Give Thanks if you find this helpful!

EEngineer said:
No, Lithium-ion batteries do not have a memory effect.
Technically, you are not calibrating the battery, you are calibrating your phone's battery gauge. The easiest way to do that is with the Battery Calibration app.
1. Open the Battery Calibration app screen. With the phone on, charge to 100%, then let the phone continue charging for another 15 min.
2. Press the "Calibrate Battery" button on the app (deletes batterystats.bin), Close Battery Calibration app then TURN THE PHONE OFF IMMEDIATELY!
3. Disconnect AC charger
4. Remove battery
5. Wait 30 seconds, then re-insert battery
6. Charge phone with phone off for half an hour
This tops off the charge on the battery.
7. Disconnect charger and turn phone on
As the phone turns on it will create a new batterystats.bin and record the high battery voltage as 100% battery.
8. Use the phone normally and run it down to 0% when the phone shuts off.
The phone now knows the curve of this battery as it relates to your phone's ROM
9. Charge the phone for ten minutes, then turn the phone on and let it continue charging to 100%
This lets batterystats.bin know your phone's charging curve
10. At 100%, remove charger
Now use the phone normally. You will be happy to get an extra few hours use of your phone.
If you really want to get the most out of your battery, get the Pro app. It keeps a close watch on your battery and also allows you to change batterystats.bin files for different batteries.
And always remember to Give Thanks if you find this helpful!
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out of all battery calliberation posts ive seen till now but this one makes complete sense. this even gave me an idea how this "caliberation " works.
again, thanks

dragonflame8712 said:
out of all battery calliberation posts ive seen till now but this one makes complete sense. this even gave me an idea how this "caliberation " works.
again, thanks
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agreed :good:

Battery Calibration - Once and for all!

I have read every possible thread you can imagine on battery calibration and can never seem to do this correctly, is it a myth? No matter what I do, if I restart my phone, I end up going from 100% down to 85-86% EVERY SINGLE time.
This is after "bumping it". (letting it drain all the way to 0% and then fully charging again).
This is after using BATTERY CALIBRATION in the market which was told works well. (again, advises you charge to 100% then "calibrate" it via the APP).
This is after charging it to 100% and restarting it, recharging up to 100%, restarting and recharging (repeat, repeat, repeat), and then going into bootloader and wiping battery stats.
None of these have worked, does someone have a sure fire EXACT way to do this properly or is at ALL just hype? Help.

Your battery will never say 100% after a reboot. It sucks up a lot of juice on a power up and the battery doesn't charge during powering on. I usually drop about 10% on a reboot using the rezound battery. That is normal behavior. If you can charge to 100% with the phone on then you're fine.
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Interesting because I've never lost 15-16% consistently although I guess it using some juice to cycle makes sense. Anyone else seen 10+ every restart? Thanks for the help man in either case.

Hmm, never seen this before. On my phone which is running skyraider uc to 768mhz and uv only loses 1percent on reboot or doesn't even lose charge at all. Not sure why your phone is doing that.
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I am running G3D uc to 768mhz and on restart I may lose 1 - 5% at most depending on if i made any changes that take a longer restart. I bet you are overclocked? no need, under clock to 768mhz and your phone will run as smooth as 1.2mhz..maybe smoother while using less battery

Running liquid 3.2.1 on my T-Bolt with the Rezound battery and I only lose 1% battery at boot up. Never lost more...oh and I have never calibrated my battery. Also I get about 8-10 hours of moderate to heavy use too. All stock clocks btw

Just to double check - or reword... do it this way - if you aren't already.
Charge to 100%.
Wipe Batt stats
Drain to zero without recharging in any way (AKA let it drain until it shuts off on you).
Recharge until 100% (till it says 100%, not just "green."). And unplug.
And you're good! Try that and check back in.

Battery Calibration doesn't work

Ignore the % number, it means nothing. Use the battery monitor widget or another program that will show you the actual battery voltage. A fully charged battery will be somewhere around 4200 mV and a discharged battery between 3600 and 3200 mV. I've also noticed that the rezound battery throws things off as the mAh rating doesn't match up to either of the thunderbolt batteries. This is why the battery monitor widget shows the rezound battery as 2750 mAh instead of 1620.

What I recommend to my Evo peeps [which I have] is this:
-Charge battery to 100%
-Wipe battery stats in recovery
-Let the battery drain, so it manually powers off
-Charge to 100% again, and good to go

Battery Calibration doesn't work
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By this I mean Google Developers have came out recently and said battery calibration does not increase or have any effect on the state of battery life. All wiping the battery stats does is wipe the stats as to what has been using the battery, etc.
still handy for when you flash a new rom to wipe the stats, but it doesn't improve battery life at all.

smoody said:
By this I mean Google Developers have came out recently and said battery calibration does not increase or have any effect on the state of battery life. All wiping the battery stats does is wipe the stats as to what has been using the battery, etc.
still handy for when you flash a new rom to wipe the stats, but it doesn't improve battery life at all.
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Actually, the post from Dianne @ Google said nothing about calibration. She only talked about wiping or deleting the battery stats file.

You are correct, however all the battery calibration apps available only delete the battery stats file. So like I said it doesn't affect battery life.

wherestheboost said:
Just to double check - or reword... do it this way - if you aren't already.
Charge to 100%.
Wipe Batt stats
Drain to zero without recharging in any way (AKA let it drain until it shuts off on you).
Recharge until 100% (till it says 100%, not just "green."). And unplug.
And you're good! Try that and check back in.
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This is what I thought I had done but will do again. The problem is even after its 100% and in between your 1st and 2nd step when I reboot into recovery, it's no longer at 100% and sometimes down to 85%ish. I will try again tho, thanks!

http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/wiping-battery-stats-is-pointless-says-google-r316
That pretty much says it. Wiping stats and calibrations are placebos.

l7777 said:
That pretty much says it. Wiping stats and calibrations are placebos.
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Yeah I read that too. But when I flashed my first rom on the tb I got abysmal battery life. 25% in like 20 min. I recalibrated and it got so much better. If its a placebo its a good one.
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all that says is the the deleting the batterybin file doesn't help. The battery is handled by each by software outside of android itself. So, following the battery calibration from the manufacturer of your phone still might help.

jefferyriess said:
Yeah I read that too. But when I flashed my first rom on the tb I got abysmal battery life. 25% in like 20 min. I recalibrated and it got so much better. If its a placebo its a good one.
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25% in 20 minutes means nothing. The % is an estimated number. Find an app that reads the battery voltage if you want a true reading on the battery's charge. Full is 4.2 volts, dead is between 3.0 - 3.6 volts. Battery life should only be measured in hours from full to dead. I've seen my phone stick on 100% for several hours before as well as sticking at 20% for several hours. Ignore the %. Anyone spending all day looking at a % to judge their battery life should go back to a battery indicator that doesn't show %.

Battery Question

So I was charging my battery and I rebooted at 27% and after rebooting it showed 67%. Any idea why?
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Its normal. Just go to cwm recovery and wipe stats and your battery stats will be exact stats again.
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Charge your battery to 100% (or as close as it will get, if not running a custom kernel). Then wipe battery stats using CWM or Battery Monitor Widget app.
Allow the battery to discharge all the way until the phone shuts down, pull the battery, and try to boot the phone. If it boots, allow it to die again, then fully recharge.

I wouldn't bother wiping stats. Just give it time and it will calibrate itself - we have no control of the batterys hardware. This often happens when on very low charges or when you boot it while charging.
You'll notice faster-than-average battery drain until it sorts itself out.