I have read every possible thread you can imagine on battery calibration and can never seem to do this correctly, is it a myth? No matter what I do, if I restart my phone, I end up going from 100% down to 85-86% EVERY SINGLE time.
This is after "bumping it". (letting it drain all the way to 0% and then fully charging again).
This is after using BATTERY CALIBRATION in the market which was told works well. (again, advises you charge to 100% then "calibrate" it via the APP).
This is after charging it to 100% and restarting it, recharging up to 100%, restarting and recharging (repeat, repeat, repeat), and then going into bootloader and wiping battery stats.
None of these have worked, does someone have a sure fire EXACT way to do this properly or is at ALL just hype? Help.
Your battery will never say 100% after a reboot. It sucks up a lot of juice on a power up and the battery doesn't charge during powering on. I usually drop about 10% on a reboot using the rezound battery. That is normal behavior. If you can charge to 100% with the phone on then you're fine.
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Interesting because I've never lost 15-16% consistently although I guess it using some juice to cycle makes sense. Anyone else seen 10+ every restart? Thanks for the help man in either case.
Hmm, never seen this before. On my phone which is running skyraider uc to 768mhz and uv only loses 1percent on reboot or doesn't even lose charge at all. Not sure why your phone is doing that.
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I am running G3D uc to 768mhz and on restart I may lose 1 - 5% at most depending on if i made any changes that take a longer restart. I bet you are overclocked? no need, under clock to 768mhz and your phone will run as smooth as 1.2mhz..maybe smoother while using less battery
Running liquid 3.2.1 on my T-Bolt with the Rezound battery and I only lose 1% battery at boot up. Never lost more...oh and I have never calibrated my battery. Also I get about 8-10 hours of moderate to heavy use too. All stock clocks btw
Just to double check - or reword... do it this way - if you aren't already.
Charge to 100%.
Wipe Batt stats
Drain to zero without recharging in any way (AKA let it drain until it shuts off on you).
Recharge until 100% (till it says 100%, not just "green."). And unplug.
And you're good! Try that and check back in.
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Ignore the % number, it means nothing. Use the battery monitor widget or another program that will show you the actual battery voltage. A fully charged battery will be somewhere around 4200 mV and a discharged battery between 3600 and 3200 mV. I've also noticed that the rezound battery throws things off as the mAh rating doesn't match up to either of the thunderbolt batteries. This is why the battery monitor widget shows the rezound battery as 2750 mAh instead of 1620.
What I recommend to my Evo peeps [which I have] is this:
-Charge battery to 100%
-Wipe battery stats in recovery
-Let the battery drain, so it manually powers off
-Charge to 100% again, and good to go
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By this I mean Google Developers have came out recently and said battery calibration does not increase or have any effect on the state of battery life. All wiping the battery stats does is wipe the stats as to what has been using the battery, etc.
still handy for when you flash a new rom to wipe the stats, but it doesn't improve battery life at all.
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By this I mean Google Developers have came out recently and said battery calibration does not increase or have any effect on the state of battery life. All wiping the battery stats does is wipe the stats as to what has been using the battery, etc.
still handy for when you flash a new rom to wipe the stats, but it doesn't improve battery life at all.
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Actually, the post from Dianne @ Google said nothing about calibration. She only talked about wiping or deleting the battery stats file.
You are correct, however all the battery calibration apps available only delete the battery stats file. So like I said it doesn't affect battery life.
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Just to double check - or reword... do it this way - if you aren't already.
Charge to 100%.
Wipe Batt stats
Drain to zero without recharging in any way (AKA let it drain until it shuts off on you).
Recharge until 100% (till it says 100%, not just "green."). And unplug.
And you're good! Try that and check back in.
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This is what I thought I had done but will do again. The problem is even after its 100% and in between your 1st and 2nd step when I reboot into recovery, it's no longer at 100% and sometimes down to 85%ish. I will try again tho, thanks!
http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/wiping-battery-stats-is-pointless-says-google-r316
That pretty much says it. Wiping stats and calibrations are placebos.
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That pretty much says it. Wiping stats and calibrations are placebos.
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Yeah I read that too. But when I flashed my first rom on the tb I got abysmal battery life. 25% in like 20 min. I recalibrated and it got so much better. If its a placebo its a good one.
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all that says is the the deleting the batterybin file doesn't help. The battery is handled by each by software outside of android itself. So, following the battery calibration from the manufacturer of your phone still might help.
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Yeah I read that too. But when I flashed my first rom on the tb I got abysmal battery life. 25% in like 20 min. I recalibrated and it got so much better. If its a placebo its a good one.
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25% in 20 minutes means nothing. The % is an estimated number. Find an app that reads the battery voltage if you want a true reading on the battery's charge. Full is 4.2 volts, dead is between 3.0 - 3.6 volts. Battery life should only be measured in hours from full to dead. I've seen my phone stick on 100% for several hours before as well as sticking at 20% for several hours. Ignore the %. Anyone spending all day looking at a % to judge their battery life should go back to a battery indicator that doesn't show %.
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For my HTC Hero, people on the boards recommended wiping battery stats and fully draining the battery for a couple of cycles.
Is it recommended for the Gtab as well? Are you able to wipe battery stats on this thing?
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For my HTC Hero, people on the boards recommended wiping battery stats and fully draining the battery for a couple of cycles.
Is it recommended for the Gtab as well? Are you able to wipe battery stats on this thing?
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If you flash clockworkmod you can wipe battery stats.
What exactly does wiping battery stats do? My gtab never charges past 97%. Would this re-calibrate it so that full charge showed 100%?
It's not even a minor annoyance so I'm not intetrested in anything requiring me to drain completely but if this is a simple fix I would give it a go.
I have the same problem...battery won't charge past 96%. I've charged it overnight and wiped battery stats with no success. Any ideas how to fix this??
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Same issue here, sadly. First time charging, it got up to 100%. After that now though, it stops charging at 98%. No amount of bump charging, battery stat wiping, draining battery, etc, has seemed to work.
It charges to 100% when using it while plugged in. I mean if it matters to you to see the big 100 once in a while ;-)
Not for me, lol. Meh, not a HUGE deal, but kind of a bummer.
Mine has the same issue. Charged overnight while powered on and while powered off and the highest the battery meter reads is 98%. I have attempted to wipe the battery stats, completely drain the battery, and wipe user data- all to no avail. While slightly irritating, it really seems as if the battery is functioning normally and the breakdown is simply the calibration of the software. I am easily getting 6-8 hours depending on usage.
Mine did that as well in the beginning, but after a bunch of good charge discharge cycles charges to 100%.
I am now on my 2nd full charge. Drained completely and full charge while off. I have the battery calibration app and i use it. Im about to take my phone off the charger and put it to work.
How many times did you calibrate your battery before you got the full potential of it. I see some people are getting as much as 30+ hrs on their device while im getting 7-9 on moderate use.
I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.
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I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.
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Ill keep it till tues/wed and see what happens. If I don't see improvement ill exchange once again
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regP said:
I've never done that. Always read that draining lithium-ion batteries hurts the battery if done repeatedly. Instead I just charge to full then delete battery stats in clockworkrecovery. Battery has been great ever since that and a factory reset.
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What does deleting the battery stats via ClockWork do? Do you delete them on each charge?
I was getting great battery life and then I used the calibration software and I'm getting good, but slightly less great battery life. Does uninstalling/freezing that app do anything or once it's calibrated, it's done?
The phone has a dual-core processor, and the best GPU you can get in a phone these days, so you can't expect it to get super battery life unless you never use the phone much. I did the calibration once, and have been able to go all day under moderate to heavy use. All day being 8am-7pm and still having ~20% charge.
Sadly my first g2x that I received wasn't able to go through more than 4 hours of standard use even after fully charged the 2nd time. I sent it in last Friday for exchange and now I'm waiting for the 2nd g2x to be send to me. Well see how it goes by then.
@himmelhauk - I noticed in your signature that you have the Paul O'Brien fix... I saw in that thread that that noticeably increased speed/smoothness, but I haven't heard anybody talk about its influence on their battery. Have you noticed a difference in your battery life after making that tweak?
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I only calibrated once, and that plus some other simple tweaks i saw great results. I usually get about 20+ hours of medium use(A few calls, non-stop texting, occasional game or youtube video, and checking email every couple of hours). If you want to see what I did you can click the link in my sig.
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What does deleting the battery stats via ClockWork do? Do you delete them on each charge?
I was getting great battery life and then I used the calibration software and I'm getting good, but slightly less great battery life. Does uninstalling/freezing that app do anything or once it's calibrated, it's done?
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it gets rid of the battery information stored within the os so that the phone reads the battery charge correctly. this was common practice for vibrant owners after flashing a new ROM. I've seen people saying that this phone has horrid battery drivers so I dunno how that will effect the battery stats but after a factory reset and deleting the stats my battery is double what I was getting on my vibrant.
I only do this after flashing a new ROM or in this case upon getting and setting the phone up. I would do it again if I swapped the battery for a different one also. just charge to 100%, reboot into clockwork, advanced menu, wipe battery stats, done. it DOES NOT increase battery life. it only allows the phone to read the battery more accurately which would keep the phone from thinking its dying when it still has considerable charge left. that's why you hear about people seeing their battery life read 1% yet the phone last for hours.
I only calibrated once because I realized the values were off a bit.
Tried every battery trick in the book. If you actually want to use the phone, nothing will help. Android is a battery eating nightmare. Hopefully one day the platform will mature so adults can use it as a business phone. I think I am returning mine or giving it to my kid.
I did a single calibration and am now seeing 20+ hours with decent usage. Fully charge the battery, use battery calibration app to erase settings, let it drain till it shuts itself off, try pressing the power button to make sure there's no remaining charge, then fully charge to 100% with the phone still off (you can tap the power button while its plugged in and off to briefly bring up a battery indicator on the screen with out actually powering up). Its true that lithium ion batteries last longer if they don't go through fully discharge cycles, but thats referring to repeated occurances, not a rare or occasional situation. And when calibrating, draining from 100 to 0 is the best method of getting a good calibration. Additionally, while its healthy to do the mid charges most of the time, about once a month or so you should do a full drain. This helps keep the calibration accurate (remember that android will continue to modify the file, albeit at a greatly reduced level after the initial discharge of a new calibration, hence why that occasional full discharge is valuable). A full discharge once a month won't significantly reduce your battery's life expectancy.
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let it drain till it shuts itself off, try pressing the power button to make sure there's no remaining charge
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Draining a li-ion battery past the safe shut off is an easy way to damage or completely kill the battery. Your phone is set to shutdown before complete discharge for this reason. The full discharge then charge method was for NiCd batteries. This has no use for lithium-ion batteries.
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Draining a li-ion battery past the safe shut off is an easy way to damage or completely kill the battery. Your phone is set to shutdown before complete discharge for this reason. The full discharge then charge method was for NiCd batteries. This has no use for lithium-ion batteries.
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True, but the method of attempting to power back up won't actually drain it past the safe point. The point is bad calibrations (either from the factory or by an incomplete calibration) can cause the OS to shut the phone down prematurely during your new calibration run (before the actual safe cut off), resulting in the calibration being off scale. When you attempt to power the phone back on, if it is at the true safety cut off, it won't reactivate, where as if the calibration from before was skewed, it will allow it to boot back up and finish draining down to the safety cut off. This is in line with the reports of people having incorrect readings on battery %, where they have a low number, reset the phone, and suddenly seem to jump up 10 or 20%.
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@himmelhauk - I noticed in your signature that you have the Paul O'Brien fix... I saw in that thread that that noticeably increased speed/smoothness, but I haven't heard anybody talk about its influence on their battery. Have you noticed a difference in your battery life after making that tweak?
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I honestly don't know if it made any difference on battery life, as I did the battery calibration before I installed the fix. At any rate, I get much better battery life after the calibration for certain.
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True, but the method of attempting to power back up won't actually drain it past the safe point. The point is bad calibrations (either from the factory or by an incomplete calibration) can cause the OS to shut the phone down prematurely during your new calibration run (before the actual safe cut off), resulting in the calibration being off scale. When you attempt to power the phone back on, if it is at the true safety cut off, it won't reactivate, where as if the calibration from before was skewed, it will allow it to boot back up and finish draining down to the safety cut off. This is in line with the reports of people having incorrect readings on battery %, where they have a low number, reset the phone, and suddenly seem to jump up 10 or 20%.
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I dunno about this phone but I know the galaxy s can still be powered on after the safe shut off and drained completely. People were doing exactly that and messing their batteries up. I would hate for people to misunderstand your post and end up making the same mistake. So the LG doesnt let you power on after the safe shutdown unless its connected to a charger? If so thats pretty good. In any case its a lot easy to just use clockwork, terminal emulator, or any other app to delete battery stats once your charged to 100%. No need to drain first
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I dunno about this phone but I know the galaxy s can still be powered on after the safe shut off and drained completely. People were doing exactly that and messing their batteries up. I would hate for people to misunderstand your post and end up making the same mistake. So the LG doesnt let you power on after the safe shutdown unless its connected to a charger? If so thats pretty good. In any case its a lot easy to just use clockwork, terminal emulator, or any other app to delete battery stats once your charged to 100%. No need to drain first
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I hadn't heard about the Galaxy S phones having that issue. Like I said, I came from the Eris and this method was the way to go with that phone, so perhaps its a manufacturer dependent function. In any case, I agree that the cwm method is better, but I meant my post to be accessable by those who may not have taken that particular plunge yet, since it only requires root. Thanks for the info though; its good to know in advanced that the safety shut off being unavoidable isn't a guarentee on all phones (though frankly it should be).
EDIT: Not sure if I'm reading it wrong, but it sounds like you thought I meant to drain the battery before calibrating, which isn't true; all you need to do precalibration is have the charge at 100%. The only time I was suggesting to drain it is during the actual calibration run, so that Android has a full scale of your battery's range. If thats not what you meant, than ignore this edit. Just wanted to make sure I was explaining myself correctly.
Also, if you open your battery cover and look at the battery, it's not suppose to go above 40 degrees celsius, or 104 degrees fahrenheit. I found that the temperature often goes past this, especially when watching movies for extended periods of time, or playing games, which leads to a significant decrease in battery life because heat and li-ion batteries are not a good combination.
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Also, if you open your battery cover and look at the battery, it's not suppose to go above 40 degrees celsius, or 104 degrees fahrenheit. I found that the temperature often goes past this, especially when watching movies for extended periods of time, or playing games, which leads to a significant decrease in battery life because heat and li-ion batteries are not a good combination.
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You can use SetCPU to make a profile according to battery temperature and underclock it when it gets to 40 degrees or something. I have profiles for when the screen is off and for temperature.
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You can use SetCPU to make a profile according to battery temperature and underclock it when it gets to 40 degrees or something. I have profiles for when the screen is off and for temperature.
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What r ur temp profiles
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I've installed the Yelp, Movies, and Amazon app, nothing else, and I'm losing around 15% an hour with light/normal usage.
I've let the battery run down to 0 and recharged completely, I've turned off gps and wifi, and still get really bad life. I live in the Bay Area and get a solid signal all of the time. There's really no excuse for it.
Please don't tell me to flash to a rom, because that's obviously not fixing the issue. Light browsing and the occasional Google Maps has my phone at <20% by the afternoon.
Battery stats just show android system and screen brightness taking up power. What's the deal?
I also constantly have at least 255 / 328mb in use even with all applications closed.
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The mb usage is normal i noticed this on stock because of Verizon apps that run in background. As far as not using the phone and only getting 6 good hours of use. i would take to the store and ask if they could change out the battery. Hope this helps.
+1 for that, sounds like you have a defective battery.
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Thats about how long my battery gets me.
And if I forget to power down my phone at night, or put it on a charger it is dead by morning no matter how much of a charge it has before I go to bed.
I have an extended battery starring me in the face and can't use it yet since I couldn't find a door and had to have one shipped from Samsung.
Hopefully the extended battery cures my issues.
(I am running Gummy Charged 2.3.3 Beta, currently waiting for the 2.3.4 release)
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Thats about how long my battery gets me.
And if I forget to power down my phone at night, or put it on a charger it is dead by morning no matter how much of a charge it has before I go to bed.
I have an extended battery starring me in the face and can't use it yet since I couldn't find a door and had to have one shipped from Samsung.
Hopefully the extended battery cures my issues.
(I am running Gummy Charged 2.3.3 Beta, currently waiting for the 2.3.4 release)
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I am curious as to what you guys are running. And if you go to bed with your phone on , and its dead by morning I can PROMISE you there is either something going on with your phone, or you are doing something wrong (i.e. you have your phone set to never sleep, your screen is set to maximum brightness, your are leaving your phone in desk cradle mode, etc etc etc.) But it's not the phone. May be a bad battery, but without being at your house and seeing what you are doing, I have no intelligent answer for you.
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I am curious as to what you guys are running. And if you go to bed with your phone on , and its dead by morning I can PROMISE you there is either something going on with your phone, or you are doing something wrong (i.e. you have your phone set to never sleep, your screen is set to maximum brightness, your are leaving your phone in desk cradle mode, etc etc etc.) But it's not the phone. May be a bad battery, but without being at your house and seeing what you are doing, I have no intelligent answer for you.
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charge phone to 100%, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats, then use the phone until you completely drain your battery until it shuts off. Then charge back up completely. This will calibrate your battery. try running a customer rom such as gummy charged or humble to see if you get bettery battery life... thousands of users have reported great battery life with both
I had same crummy battery life. I followed the calibration instructions and i went from about 5-6 hr batt life to ( right now im at almost 11hrs with 66% battery left on wifi with moderate use). Ill test tomorrow on 4g only and see how it does. I would get like 4-5 hrs before.
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danalo1979 said:
charge phone to 100%, boot into clockwork recovery and wipe your battery stats, then use the phone until you completely drain your battery until it shuts off. Then charge back up completely. This will calibrate your battery. try running a customer rom such as gummy charged or humble to see if you get bettery battery life... thousands of users have reported great battery life with both
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I am running the latest humble and my battery drops really fast. If I go into task manager and clear my RAM, I get better battery. I calibrated per the instructions as well about a week ago or so and saw no improvement. Please note that I have not been scientific about it at all.
Stopping Data obv helps a million and clearing RAM seems to help as well.
EDIT: I am recalibrating in case it was not done properly before. Hopefully it will help. I am hopeful!
I charged my battery to full, booted into clockwork recovery and wiped my battery stats.
When I rebooted my phone it shows a 73% charge?
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I charged my battery to full, booted into clockwork recovery and wiped my battery stats.
When I rebooted my phone it shows a 73% charge?
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If you are on humble 1.x then that means your battery stats were way off. Basically your battery still needs 23% more charge before its full... thus better battery life... because you had a miscalibrated battery, your phone is erroneously reporting a full charge... charge it back to 100% then discharge fully then charge all the back up
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I'm on Gummy Charge GRE, but I assume the same reason?
I exchanged my battery at verizon. So far it seems better. Ive let it drain and am recharging now. I will also try uninstalling g+ if the new batt hasnt solved the problem. I will post back with an update.
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I switched out my battery 2 days ago, and I'm still getting under 6 hours with moderate use.
Has anyone had luck with ROMs drastically improving battery life? I can't imagine it being the phone itself, but I might try exchanging it too.
EDIT: it seems like the new battery charges a bit faster. My old battery would take around a minute for one percentage gain. Can anyone comment on their charge times?
I read a lot of thread about battery calibration so I want to know if someone try this on XT720 and if it's really usefull and not dangerous for the phone.
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It is useful and not dangerous at all. Your battery has, if stock that came with phone, a full charge of 4.2v.
So let's say that you have been conservatively using you phone most of the day and are at 70%. You decide to flash the Hellmonger edition or CM6 but you make a nandroid backup first. You flash them and it goes horribly wrong and your phone power dwindles down to 30% and you freakout and charge it back up.
When it is charging, you decide to hold off on flashing for a bit and want to go back to your "home" ROM, whatever that may be. You let your phone charge up to 100% and re-flash your back up. Once it reboots and settles down, you happen to notice that just 5 mins ago you were at 100%, but now after flashing your backup, your battery shows 70%.
30% drop in 5 mins is rediculous. Yes it is, bit it didn't really drop 30% in 5 mins because when you backed up your original ROM, you also backed up your data/system/batterystats.bin that was calibrated to 70%.
If you use Battery Calibrator and charge it up fully, run app, hit it and then unplug, it deletes the data/system/batterystats.bin and in a few seconds (5 ithink) it creates a new one with you proper charge and voltz.
So if you flash a lot, this is good for you. Or you can delete the batterystats.bin manually if you want, but there's an app for that.
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It is useful and not dangerous at all. Your battery has, if stock that came with phone, a full charge of 4.2v.
So let's say that you have been conservatively using you phone most of the day and are at 70%. You decide to flash the Hellmonger edition or CM6 but you make a nandroid backup first. You flash them and it goes horribly wrong and your phone power dwindles down to 30% and you freakout and charge it back up.
When it is charging, you decide to hold off on flashing for a bit and want to go back to your "home" ROM, whatever that may be. You let your phone charge up to 100% and re-flash your back up. Once it reboots and settles down, you happen to notice that just 5 mins ago you were at 100%, but now after flashing your backup, your battery shows 70%.
30% drop in 5 mins is rediculous. Yes it is, bit it didn't really drop 30% in 5 mins because when you backed up your original ROM, you also backed up your data/system/batterystats.bin that was calibrated to 70%.
If you use Battery Calibrator and charge it up fully, run app, hit it and then unplug, it deletes the data/system/batterystats.bin and in a few seconds (5 ithink) it creates a new one with you proper charge and voltz.
So if you flash a lot, this is good for you. Or you can delete the batterystats.bin manually if you want, but there's an app for that.
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So, if I understand, it's not so usefull because after I lose my 30%, if I charge and I have 100% it's really 100% not 70% right ?
I would say that it is always best to start from a clean slate. It deletes that batstat file and starts anew. Can't hurt, but if you are flashing ROMs every 3rd day like most of us, it does come in handy.
For the moral of the stroy, it will not damage your phone. Just a one click app that you can do manually with Root Explorer if you wanted to.
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I would say that it is always best to start from a clean slate. It deletes that batstat file and starts anew. Can't hurt, but if you are flashing ROMs every 3rd day like most of us, it does come in handy.
For the moral of the stroy, it will not damage your phone. Just a one click app that you can do manually with Root Explorer if you wanted to.
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Ok, thank you, I will use it when I will flash a new ROM.
Do you actually have to drain the battery fully after calibration?
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Do you actually have to drain the battery fully after calibration?
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Its recommended that the battery drain fully, and then be recharged without interruption. I guess thats to give android a full scale from full to empty, to help better report battery stats and consumption.
However for me full drain means 10-15%, its hurts the battery to be drained till the phone powers off.
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Its recommended that the battery drain fully, and then be recharged without interruption. I guess thats to give android a full scale from full to empty, to help better report battery stats and consumption.
However for me full drain means 10-15%, its hurts the battery to be drained till the phone powers off.
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Haha battery calibration definatly helps the battery a lot but u suggest not draining battery fully??
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Haha battery calibration definatly helps the battery a lot but u suggest not draining battery fully??
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I used to drain it fully till my phone turned off before calibration but I read a very detailed article about how draining the battery completely can hurt it. So I choose to drain it till 5-10% which is good enough
How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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I know that the last little bit of charge just trickles in and takes a long time. If mine is at somewhere between 4150 and 4200, i call it good and go from there. If it was showing at say 4095 and 100%, then there might be something wrong with either the data or the battery. If you are sitting at 4165, then it is charged for the most part.
The app and what it does is more for when you are flashing a ROM and have around 60% and then once booted up fully, you charge it up to 100%. Decided you don't like your ROM and go back to your original ROM via backup, it will show 60% instead of the 100 or 90% you had before you went back to back up b/c you backed up the batstat bin when you nandroided your original ROM.
How about this:
ROM: Epicsteelblue 70% (and you made a backup) Then went to CM6, charged and hit calibrate battery at 100%. Used CM6 for a few hours and decided it wasn't your bag. Your batter is at 50%. You flash back to your Epicbluesteel ROM and you know for a fact you had 50% before you flashed back, but now once totally booted, you are showing 70%. This is why you use the battery calibrator after you flash a ROM. Gotta create a new batstat bin for you "fresh" ROM (even though it is a backup).
Hope this helps explain better.
eejin2 said:
How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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That happens sometimes to me aswell. The battery calibration app shows the battery full at 4165 or somewhere in that range. What I do with that is bump charge it. So if battery calibration shows 4165, i just calibrate it and turn the phone off while it is connected to the charger. When it turns off the charging screen appears and shows 100%, i leave it there for an hour or two. Then remove and turn the phone on. If you go into the battery information itll show the charge to be 4200 or close to that. Hope that was helpful you can try it next time.
EDIT: The reason I turn the phone off and let is charge is that when it reboots after fully charging to 4200 it can create a fresh battery stats. Remember battery stats are only rebuilt upon boot. If you calibrate your battery and then dont reboot its useless. To test calibrate it, and then use it for awhile and then try to recalibrate it the app will indicate that there are no battery stats avaible to delete. This is because the ROM has not made any new battery stats and will only make them on boot.
hey guys has anyone tried this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11803458&postcount=10) of calibrating battery? it seems the dev says that if u use his method, you can calibrate without downtime!!
wow this is damn cool. but its kinda complicated. the old way feels better for me i think...
Battery Updates
The battery updates every 10%, is there any way to make it update more precisely, like every 5%?
I've never been able to get anything better that 10% battery increments
Okay thanks maybe in a future rom this would be nice.
Hi
Is their a way to change from 10% to 1% increameants.
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eejin2 said:
How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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It is the property of all rechargetable battery, 4.2V can only see at the moment charging progress just finished. when the power management IC pull of charge current, battery's voltage will drop a litte in a very short time, like you said, 4.165V for example. And, because of your charger is connected, battery will not drain, It won't be another charging progress witch you are expecting.
I know I'm digging up an old thread here, so sorry for that. I've recently tried a few other ROMs, but since have come back to CM6.3.7. I always do the battery calibration thing when I flash ROMs and each time I've tried it lately, it gives me odd information in the Battery Usage screen. I charged my phone to 100% yesterday before leaving work and when I got to work today, it showed 70%, which seemed normal, but the Battery Usage screen showed "1h 24m since last unplugged" and I know I hadn't plugged it into the wall or USB for about 12 hours. I did restart once....could that be the reason why the time since last unplugged is incorrect?
Has anyone realized this or is it just me, every sense 3.5 that I've tried the battery indicator is incorrect.
For example, I just had 41% battery life before resetting my phone and now I have only 4%. Is it not charging the battery correctly? I also turn the phone off after it says 100% and then charge until the green led comes on but still it is either draining too fast and phone doesn't detect it until a reset or the battery isn't be charged completely because the rom thinks it's 100. I have caliibrated and erased the batterystats.bin file so many times and it's still the same. any insight on this? I have a brand new battery from htc as well.
Same problem
Constantly "calibrating" or deleting the battery stats is the exact reason this happens. You dont have to do that, regardless of what people say.
This will happen until the battery has been charged/discharged a few times and will slowly stop happening.
No issue here, got my new anker battery.. Flashed BP 2.1.5 and since then, my battery has been normal and amazing!
the_scotsman said:
Constantly "calibrating" or deleting the battery stats is the exact reason this happens. You dont have to do that, regardless of what people say.
This will happen until the battery has been charged/discharged a few times and will slowly stop happening.
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This. When I flash ROMs I don't really do anything in relation to the battery. I just use my phone like normal. The first day or two you might get a little more drain than usual, but after that it will be completely normal and you don't have to do anything like wipe battery stats or calibrate or run it down to 5% and charge it all the way up or whatever.
Yes, constantly resetting battery stats is bad. Should only occur right after flashing the new ROM. Ideally you'll have charged your phone to 100%, flashed the new ROM, and immediately putting it through 5 discharge/charge cycles.
My battery life was horrendous when I didn't properly calibrate the battery. Going through the process now and its lasting a significantly longer time compared to not going through the process. I'm talking about getting like 6 hours of light usage compared to like 15.
Or it could be just ARHD. I really didn't like that ROM. Anyways, I'm running Bulletproof 2.1.5 with 3.5 Sense on an Anker battery and its doing great.
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nrvnqsrxk said:
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that. My battery life was horrendous when I didn't properly calibrate the battery by going through at least 3 full discharge and charge cycles. Going through the process now and its lasting a significantly longer time compared to not going through the process. I'm talking about getting like 6 hours of light usage compared to like 15.
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+ 1 my battery was shocking, im on my second full cycle currently at 2% lol and already i've noticed improvements by like 20%
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I've done everything, calibrated the battery numerous times with and without wiping the batterystats.bin and it's still acting up. Say this morning I wake up, take the phone off charge at 100%, go out, and restart the phone for any reason when the phone's battery meter is at 95%, after the restart the meter will jump down to 70%.
This is with a new battery, new rom, totally wiped device, I even used the ruu to get me back to the stock rom.
Anyone have any idea what's the problem? The battery life is ****, and doesn't seem to get any better with calibration.
xdviper said:
I've done everything, calibrated the battery numerous times with and without wiping the batterystats.bin and it's still acting up. Say this morning I wake up, take the phone off charge at 100%, go out, and restart the phone for any reason when the phone's battery meter is at 95%, after the restart the meter will jump down to 70%.
This is with a new battery, new rom, totally wiped device, I even used the ruu to get me back to the stock rom.
Anyone have any idea what's the problem? The battery life is ****, and doesn't seem to get any better with calibration.
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This is your culprit. Let it bed in a few days, and performance should stabilize.
Go through 5 full charges/discharges, uninterrupted. Yes, it's a pain in the ass, but you signed up for it when you flashed a new ROM.
Everytime you wipe your battery stats, you have to go through the 5 cycle process again. Uninterrupted.
EDIT: Had a lil too much rum and misspelled a few words. I even misspelled mispelled
Alright dude, I'm going to take you up on your word, I'll give you another update within 5 days.
This is a problem with all Sensation ROMs, even with S-On and Stock ROMs. I get a problem like this one too. If I have 60% left, and I restart the phone, it goes up to 69% and I don't know why. Also very slow charging from the original wall charger, but if I reboot when it's charging at 70-75%, when it finally boots, it says 100% charge. This must be some bug from HTC or something. :S
Hi,
Same problem (with Sense 3.0/Sence 3.5 and different ROM),but is there a fix for that?
I saw this:
Batt Jumping hopefully solved (Beta) = Done
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The thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1287129 .
Probably a way to fix the issue?
Should be asked about this in the ROM thread?
Me too same bug since first day, I think it's a battery sensor fault
It's not a hardware fault...it's not a battery fault...it *may* be a ROM/kernel issue...but I suggest you give your battery a few discharge/charge cycles and you'll see it should go back to normal.