So i charged to 100% and callibrated and left the phone on the side for a while as ive heard battery callibration works better when battery is naturally drained. However, its been a week and its still at 100% -_____-. i dont plan on waiting a month or so just to make sure its perfectly callibrated. Is there a better way to do this? . Thanks guysss
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So i charged to 100% and callibrated and left the phone on the side for a while as ive heard battery callibration works better when battery is naturally drained. However, its been a week and its still at 100% -_____-. i dont plan on waiting a month or so just to make sure its perfectly callibrated. Is there a better way to do this? . Thanks guysss
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Naturally drained? Regular use is needed to drain the battery. An unused battery (I have a couple) will take months to drain. Just use the phone as you do in your every day usage. Let it get down to about 5 to 10% then fully charge and calibrate.
you cant calibrate a lithium ion battery. in fact draining them is bad for the battery. however if youre having problems with the phone not reading the battery percentage correctly you need to wipe the batterystats.bin using either clockworkrecovery or just download the battery calibration app from the market.
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you cant calibrate a lithium ion battery. in fact draining them is bad for the battery. however if youre having problems with the phone not reading the battery percentage correctly you need to wipe the batterystats.bin using either clockworkrecovery or just download the battery calibration app from the market.
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Really? Cycling the battery a few times for better performance is a myth?
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Really? Cycling the battery a few times for better performance is a myth?
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yes for lithium battery it is. the older ni-cd batteries required this.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
infact..this result shows that you should charge often. 10-15% discharge..and charge cycles provided the longest battery life.
this article is very very good!
That's good information. While I didn't know all that I did find the whole calibration idea a waste of effort. I've tried calibrating the battery on a couple phones and my battery life has never increased. The most that ever happens is I'll find myself away from home with no charger and have to quit playing with phone so I have enough juice left in case of an emergency.
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you cant calibrate a lithium ion battery. in fact draining them is bad for the battery. however if youre having problems with the phone not reading the battery percentage correctly you need to wipe the batterystats.bin using either clockworkrecovery or just download the battery calibration app from the market.
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No, Lithium-ion batteries do not have a memory effect.
Technically, you are not calibrating the battery, you are calibrating your phone's battery gauge. The easiest way to do that is with the Battery Calibration app.
1. Open the Battery Calibration app screen. With the phone on, charge to 100%, then let the phone continue charging for another 15 min.
2. Press the "Calibrate Battery" button on the app (deletes batterystats.bin), Close Battery Calibration app then TURN THE PHONE OFF IMMEDIATELY!
3. Disconnect AC charger
4. Remove battery
5. Wait 30 seconds, then re-insert battery
6. Charge phone with phone off for half an hour
This tops off the charge on the battery.
7. Disconnect charger and turn phone on
As the phone turns on it will create a new batterystats.bin and record the high battery voltage as 100% battery.
8. Use the phone normally and run it down to 0% when the phone shuts off.
The phone now knows the curve of this battery as it relates to your phone's ROM
9. Charge the phone for ten minutes, then turn the phone on and let it continue charging to 100%
This lets batterystats.bin know your phone's charging curve
10. At 100%, remove charger
Now use the phone normally. You will be happy to get an extra few hours use of your phone.
If you really want to get the most out of your battery, get the Battery Monitor Widget Pro app. It keeps a close watch on your battery and also allows you to change batterystats.bin files for different batteries.
And always remember to Give Thanks if you find this helpful!
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No, Lithium-ion batteries do not have a memory effect.
Technically, you are not calibrating the battery, you are calibrating your phone's battery gauge. The easiest way to do that is with the Battery Calibration app.
1. Open the Battery Calibration app screen. With the phone on, charge to 100%, then let the phone continue charging for another 15 min.
2. Press the "Calibrate Battery" button on the app (deletes batterystats.bin), Close Battery Calibration app then TURN THE PHONE OFF IMMEDIATELY!
3. Disconnect AC charger
4. Remove battery
5. Wait 30 seconds, then re-insert battery
6. Charge phone with phone off for half an hour
This tops off the charge on the battery.
7. Disconnect charger and turn phone on
As the phone turns on it will create a new batterystats.bin and record the high battery voltage as 100% battery.
8. Use the phone normally and run it down to 0% when the phone shuts off.
The phone now knows the curve of this battery as it relates to your phone's ROM
9. Charge the phone for ten minutes, then turn the phone on and let it continue charging to 100%
This lets batterystats.bin know your phone's charging curve
10. At 100%, remove charger
Now use the phone normally. You will be happy to get an extra few hours use of your phone.
If you really want to get the most out of your battery, get the Pro app. It keeps a close watch on your battery and also allows you to change batterystats.bin files for different batteries.
And always remember to Give Thanks if you find this helpful!
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out of all battery calliberation posts ive seen till now but this one makes complete sense. this even gave me an idea how this "caliberation " works.
again, thanks
dragonflame8712 said:
out of all battery calliberation posts ive seen till now but this one makes complete sense. this even gave me an idea how this "caliberation " works.
again, thanks
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This is not a guarantee of battery life extension or performance. These are merely steps (in most cases) to possibly help prolong and restore battery longevity.
First lets understand something about battery charging. The most common mistake is to overcharge a battery. While one is inclined to charge when they see the low battery message, overcharging is detrimental to the battery. This is not good for the life expectancy of your cell phone battery, especially if you are expecting longer life from your battery. Over charging heats the battery, and drains its life expectancy.
Second, it would appear that after flashing (ROM’s, Kernel’s etc.) multiple times, your battery might not hold a charge all that well. Trying these steps may help improve battery life.
> Turn the phone on. Plug in the charger (not the USB to computer) and charge completely> Disconnect the charger and turn off the phone> Once completely shut down, plug the charger back into the phone. Let the phone completely charge, while phone is off. In some cases the phone may give a tone when charged. You can check its status by touching the volume up or down> Once again unplug the phone from the charger> These next steps are curcial. 1.Turn the phone on (give it time to boot completely) 2. Power it off again. 3. Connect to the charger once again. 4. Let charge to full one more time. Unplug the phone!
In most cases, this procedure need only be done once. Remember turn off bluetooth, intranet and other applications when not in use. These accessories pu a tremendous drain on a cell phones battery life. This is why they should be turned off, when not in use.
The old battery recalibration trick?
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This is not a guarantee of battery life extension or performance. These are merely steps (in most cases) to possibly help prolong and restore battery longevity.
First lets understand something about battery charging. The most common mistake is to overcharge a battery. While one is inclined to charge when they see the low battery message, overcharging is detrimental to the battery. This is not good for the life expectancy of your cell phone battery, especially if you are expecting longer life from your battery. Over charging heats the battery, and drains its life expectancy.
Second, it would appear that after flashing (ROM’s, Kernel’s etc.) multiple times, your battery might not hold a charge all that well. Trying these steps may help improve battery life.
> Turn the phone on. Plug in the charger (not the USB to computer) and charge completely> Disconnect the charger and turn off the phone> Once completely shut down, plug the charger back into the phone. Let the phone completely charge, while phone is off. In some cases the phone may give a tone when charged. You can check its status by touching the volume up or down> Once again unplug the phone from the charger> These next steps are curcial. 1.Turn the phone on (give it time to boot completely) 2. Power it off again. 3. Connect to the charger once again. 4. Let charge to full one more time. Unplug the phone!
In most cases, this procedure need only be done once. Remember turn off bluetooth, intranet and other applications when not in use. These accessories pu a tremendous drain on a cell phones battery life. This is why they should be turned off, when not in use.
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i feel like i do this every time i recharge my battery because every time i charge to 100% then turn it off and plug it in, it takes another 5 min to charge to 100 while its off. Literally, every time i bump charge it.
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Mhmm, an explanation of the bump charge. Been written here before, but eh. Maybe someone lost theirs. I lost my txt file with the instructions a while back lol.
The way I see it these instructions only help to provide a more accurate battery count. Whether the battery is displaying correctly or not, juice in the battery is juice in the battery. Nothing more nothing less. This whole battery issue is ridiculous.
I think it'd be a good idea to remove the battery icon from the notification bar all together.
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Whether the battery is displaying correctly or not, juice in the battery is juice in the battery. Nothing more nothing less. This whole battery issue is ridiculous.
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No. Your phone has software in it to detect how much battery life is left for a variety of reasons; it turns more battery-intense functionality off at 5%, the camera for instance, and keeps enough battery power so that it can run its shutdown procedure, instead of just dying and losing whatever's in memory at the time.
You also don't want your phone thinking that 19% battery is 1% and turning off or telling you to charge it, as charging a battery that isn't fully discharged is a great way to lose long-term battery life. Additionally, how much would it suck if your phone software thought that 75% was 100% and stopped charging? You could then be leaving for the day with 3/4 of your battery, thinking it was full.
There are plenty of reasons to want this to be as accurate as possible. Unless you just don't give a crap if your phone is usable or not
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No. Your phone has software in it to detect how much battery life is left for a variety of reasons; it turns more battery-intense functionality off at 5%, the camera for instance, and keeps enough battery power so that it can run its shutdown procedure, instead of just dying and losing whatever's in memory at the time.
You also don't want your phone thinking that 19% battery is 1% and turning off or telling you to charge it, as charging a battery that isn't fully discharged is a great way to lose long-term battery life. Additionally, how much would it suck if your phone software thought that 75% was 100% and stopped charging? You could then be leaving for the day with 3/4 of your battery, thinking it was full.
There are plenty of reasons to want this to be as accurate as possible. Unless you just don't give a crap if your phone is usable or not
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The "software" won't ever be off by more than 10%.
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...as charging a battery that isn't fully discharged is a great way to lose long-term battery life.
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Not true with lithium ion batteries. They don't have charge memory.
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The "software" won't ever be off by more than 10%.
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I was having all kinds of issues with my battery draining too fast. I unplugged at 7:30AM and by 10:30AM it would be at 60%. I tried the bump charge and all that, but then I realized "It's the apps, stupid!" I started running a task killer after I unplugged it, and now I'm making it to noontime and I'm only down to 80%.
TLR: Keep your apps in check, they are what eat your battery.
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The "software" won't ever be off by more than 10%.
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A few days ago my phone shut off after draining the battery - before it shut off the battery was less than 1%. i let it sit for ten minutes or so then turned it on. - it showed 16%.
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i do this ALL the time!
If you are running a custom rom it is also good to delete the battery charge stats when booting back up after step 4. If you have CWM just boot into recovery, go to advanced, then clear battery stats.
There is a way to clear it if you don't have CWM, but I don't remember what it is and I think most people have CWM anyways.
I check my apps frequently. One day my weather widget was going nuts and was using GPS non stop. I pulled my phone out at lunch and the battery was in the yellow. Granted I haven't seen that happen again it has made me reconsider even using apps/ widgets with GPS
widgets kill battery. I had several pages of widgets and I had to wipe by phone, remarkable how much "better" the battery was after that. Weather widgets look great but it costs to run them.
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widgets kill battery. I had several pages of widgets and I had to wipe by phone, remarkable how much "better" the battery was after that. Weather widgets look great but it costs to run them.
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I've a feeling it has less to do with the actual widget and more to do with their constant updating when there is a poor or nonexistant connection.
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I've a feeling it has less to do with the actual widget and more to do with their constant updating when there is a poor or nonexistant connection.
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Don't download the anaimation sub-app. update on the hour (or 2) instead of 15 -30 min.
I would love some advice as a noob here. I've only had my Cappy for a little over 2 weeks. I've done the battery calibrate trick, but still don't see very good battery life. I unplugged from the charger at 100% at 10pm last night and left the phone on all night. Wifi and GPS were turned off. Beautiful Widgets is set to update weather every hour. The phone received 7 sms messages during the night. When the alarm went off at 6:30am I was at 70%. It's 10am now, so it's been off the charger for 12 hours. Here is what I show:
Voice Calls 34%
Cell Standby 23%
Phone Idle 16%
Display 15%
Android System 4%
Beautiful Widgets 3%
Android OS 3%
Android Core Apps 2%
antivirus 2%
Battery currently shows 51% left
I'm running stock Eclair JH7, build 1101
Would anyone suggest Advanced Task Killer or Juice Defender?
There are some good tips for prolonging and caring for your Battery here: (Can't post links, google search: site:arstechnica.com battery life ask ars)
However, cell phone batteries rarely run over $30 (I have seen capivate batteries as low as $13), if you just always fully charge it you will still see a good 8-12 months out of it, and then just buy a new one. $30 a year is worth it to me to just let the thing fully charge so that I can use it for longer.
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Would anyone suggest Advanced Task Killer or Juice Defender?
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PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL ANY OF THESE BEFORE READING
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-view-on-task-managers-for-android/
If you fully charge and run the battery, done several times, the battery will eventually run better. Surprisingly, there is a "break in" period for the battery.
I appreciate the advice on the task killers and such. I don't use one, and after reading that stuff, I won't. I pulled my phone off the charger yesterday at about 1pm. By the time I played some games, did some web browsing, made some calls and did some texting, it was still at 70% when I went to bed at around 10pm. This morning at 7am, I was shocked to find that it was still at 67%! I don't have a clue what was different. It typically hogs up 25-30% overnight, but this time it only did 3%. I wish I knew what was different. This is so weird!
I have done bump charging and everything I can think of to get my battery to top off at 100% when I remove it from a power source. Every single time though it drops to anywhere from 95-97% within a minute.
Do I need to clear the battery stats and hope for the best? Do I need to request a new battery from Verizon?
Also, to clear battery stats do I need to run the phone down to nearly dead, clear stats, then charge it up? I have conflicting info on when to clear or if it's even a wise idea on the Thunderbolt.
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Also, to clear battery stats do I need to run the phone down to nearly dead, clear stats, then charge it up? I have conflicting info on when to clear or if it's even a wise idea on the Thunderbolt.
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I've been wondering about this as well. Good question
I always turn the phone off, charge to 100% then boot and immediately clear stats. After that let it drain till dead. I like to let it charge back up all the way with the phone off. Then use it normally. Always worked for me.
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ajd88 said:
I always turn the phone off, charge to 100% then boot and immediately clear stats. After that let it drain till dead. I like to let it charge back up all the way with the phone off. Then use it normally. Always worked for me.
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I've only cleared stats once but this is the process I used. Seemed to work well.
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I have done bump charging and everything I can think of to get my battery to top off at 100% when I remove it from a power source. Every single time though it drops to anywhere from 95-97% within a minute.
Do I need to clear the battery stats and hope for the best? Do I need to request a new battery from Verizon?
Also, to clear battery stats do I need to run the phone down to nearly dead, clear stats, then charge it up? I have conflicting info on when to clear or if it's even a wise idea on the Thunderbolt.
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If you leave it on the charger for an extended period of time it will always drop off a few percent rather quickly. A new battery will not fix that. From what I understand it is a feature that helps prevent overcharging. As for battery stats I only clear them if I switch from a standard to an extended battery or sometimes if you flash a ROM when not already charged to 100% and notice the battery has gotten worse.
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If you leave it on the charger for an extended period of time it will always drop off a few percent rather quickly. A new battery will not fix that. From what I understand it is a feature that helps prevent overcharging. As for battery stats I only clear them if I switch from a standard to an extended battery or sometimes if you flash a ROM when not already charged to 100% and notice the battery has gotten worse.
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This. The battery charges to full and then will stop charging to prevent overcharging. Also it's good practice as said above to clear stats after loading a new ROM or switching out batteries.
There is an app on the market called battery calibration which walks you through step by step the proper way to calibrate it. Obviously you have to be rooted but you can clear stats without having to reboot into recovery. Of course you can run the new Das Bamf rom with their toolkit which also has a clear battery stats option in it.
What I do in the mornings when I wake up after charging all night, is reboot and continue to let it charge until I walk out the door.
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This thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051 explains why this happens.
Basically the battery meter is lying to you when it says 100% right when you take it off the charger, it's actually a couple percentage points below 100%. This is because keeping the phone at 100% while on the charger shortens the battery life.
So basically don't worry it's normal.
Everyone: I know why it happens and that it's normal.
I am talking about why after I do a bump charge and keep recharging it to 100% (i.e. take it off power, let it dip to 95%, put it back on power, charge till green). After it immediately goes green I pull it off and less than a minute later it's down to 96 or 97%, for example.
I read a lot of thread about battery calibration so I want to know if someone try this on XT720 and if it's really usefull and not dangerous for the phone.
Thank you
It is useful and not dangerous at all. Your battery has, if stock that came with phone, a full charge of 4.2v.
So let's say that you have been conservatively using you phone most of the day and are at 70%. You decide to flash the Hellmonger edition or CM6 but you make a nandroid backup first. You flash them and it goes horribly wrong and your phone power dwindles down to 30% and you freakout and charge it back up.
When it is charging, you decide to hold off on flashing for a bit and want to go back to your "home" ROM, whatever that may be. You let your phone charge up to 100% and re-flash your back up. Once it reboots and settles down, you happen to notice that just 5 mins ago you were at 100%, but now after flashing your backup, your battery shows 70%.
30% drop in 5 mins is rediculous. Yes it is, bit it didn't really drop 30% in 5 mins because when you backed up your original ROM, you also backed up your data/system/batterystats.bin that was calibrated to 70%.
If you use Battery Calibrator and charge it up fully, run app, hit it and then unplug, it deletes the data/system/batterystats.bin and in a few seconds (5 ithink) it creates a new one with you proper charge and voltz.
So if you flash a lot, this is good for you. Or you can delete the batterystats.bin manually if you want, but there's an app for that.
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It is useful and not dangerous at all. Your battery has, if stock that came with phone, a full charge of 4.2v.
So let's say that you have been conservatively using you phone most of the day and are at 70%. You decide to flash the Hellmonger edition or CM6 but you make a nandroid backup first. You flash them and it goes horribly wrong and your phone power dwindles down to 30% and you freakout and charge it back up.
When it is charging, you decide to hold off on flashing for a bit and want to go back to your "home" ROM, whatever that may be. You let your phone charge up to 100% and re-flash your back up. Once it reboots and settles down, you happen to notice that just 5 mins ago you were at 100%, but now after flashing your backup, your battery shows 70%.
30% drop in 5 mins is rediculous. Yes it is, bit it didn't really drop 30% in 5 mins because when you backed up your original ROM, you also backed up your data/system/batterystats.bin that was calibrated to 70%.
If you use Battery Calibrator and charge it up fully, run app, hit it and then unplug, it deletes the data/system/batterystats.bin and in a few seconds (5 ithink) it creates a new one with you proper charge and voltz.
So if you flash a lot, this is good for you. Or you can delete the batterystats.bin manually if you want, but there's an app for that.
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So, if I understand, it's not so usefull because after I lose my 30%, if I charge and I have 100% it's really 100% not 70% right ?
I would say that it is always best to start from a clean slate. It deletes that batstat file and starts anew. Can't hurt, but if you are flashing ROMs every 3rd day like most of us, it does come in handy.
For the moral of the stroy, it will not damage your phone. Just a one click app that you can do manually with Root Explorer if you wanted to.
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I would say that it is always best to start from a clean slate. It deletes that batstat file and starts anew. Can't hurt, but if you are flashing ROMs every 3rd day like most of us, it does come in handy.
For the moral of the stroy, it will not damage your phone. Just a one click app that you can do manually with Root Explorer if you wanted to.
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Ok, thank you, I will use it when I will flash a new ROM.
Do you actually have to drain the battery fully after calibration?
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Do you actually have to drain the battery fully after calibration?
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Its recommended that the battery drain fully, and then be recharged without interruption. I guess thats to give android a full scale from full to empty, to help better report battery stats and consumption.
However for me full drain means 10-15%, its hurts the battery to be drained till the phone powers off.
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Its recommended that the battery drain fully, and then be recharged without interruption. I guess thats to give android a full scale from full to empty, to help better report battery stats and consumption.
However for me full drain means 10-15%, its hurts the battery to be drained till the phone powers off.
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Haha battery calibration definatly helps the battery a lot but u suggest not draining battery fully??
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Haha battery calibration definatly helps the battery a lot but u suggest not draining battery fully??
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I used to drain it fully till my phone turned off before calibration but I read a very detailed article about how draining the battery completely can hurt it. So I choose to drain it till 5-10% which is good enough
How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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I know that the last little bit of charge just trickles in and takes a long time. If mine is at somewhere between 4150 and 4200, i call it good and go from there. If it was showing at say 4095 and 100%, then there might be something wrong with either the data or the battery. If you are sitting at 4165, then it is charged for the most part.
The app and what it does is more for when you are flashing a ROM and have around 60% and then once booted up fully, you charge it up to 100%. Decided you don't like your ROM and go back to your original ROM via backup, it will show 60% instead of the 100 or 90% you had before you went back to back up b/c you backed up the batstat bin when you nandroided your original ROM.
How about this:
ROM: Epicsteelblue 70% (and you made a backup) Then went to CM6, charged and hit calibrate battery at 100%. Used CM6 for a few hours and decided it wasn't your bag. Your batter is at 50%. You flash back to your Epicbluesteel ROM and you know for a fact you had 50% before you flashed back, but now once totally booted, you are showing 70%. This is why you use the battery calibrator after you flash a ROM. Gotta create a new batstat bin for you "fresh" ROM (even though it is a backup).
Hope this helps explain better.
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How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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That happens sometimes to me aswell. The battery calibration app shows the battery full at 4165 or somewhere in that range. What I do with that is bump charge it. So if battery calibration shows 4165, i just calibrate it and turn the phone off while it is connected to the charger. When it turns off the charging screen appears and shows 100%, i leave it there for an hour or two. Then remove and turn the phone on. If you go into the battery information itll show the charge to be 4200 or close to that. Hope that was helpful you can try it next time.
EDIT: The reason I turn the phone off and let is charge is that when it reboots after fully charging to 4200 it can create a fresh battery stats. Remember battery stats are only rebuilt upon boot. If you calibrate your battery and then dont reboot its useless. To test calibrate it, and then use it for awhile and then try to recalibrate it the app will indicate that there are no battery stats avaible to delete. This is because the ROM has not made any new battery stats and will only make them on boot.
hey guys has anyone tried this method (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11803458&postcount=10) of calibrating battery? it seems the dev says that if u use his method, you can calibrate without downtime!!
wow this is damn cool. but its kinda complicated. the old way feels better for me i think...
Battery Updates
The battery updates every 10%, is there any way to make it update more precisely, like every 5%?
I've never been able to get anything better that 10% battery increments
Okay thanks maybe in a future rom this would be nice.
Hi
Is their a way to change from 10% to 1% increameants.
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How come sometimes when the battery is full it shows 4200mah like it should but sometimes it shows less like around 4165mah in the battery calibration app? At 4165, I still left it there to charge to see if it would increase or not but it didn't...
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It is the property of all rechargetable battery, 4.2V can only see at the moment charging progress just finished. when the power management IC pull of charge current, battery's voltage will drop a litte in a very short time, like you said, 4.165V for example. And, because of your charger is connected, battery will not drain, It won't be another charging progress witch you are expecting.
I know I'm digging up an old thread here, so sorry for that. I've recently tried a few other ROMs, but since have come back to CM6.3.7. I always do the battery calibration thing when I flash ROMs and each time I've tried it lately, it gives me odd information in the Battery Usage screen. I charged my phone to 100% yesterday before leaving work and when I got to work today, it showed 70%, which seemed normal, but the Battery Usage screen showed "1h 24m since last unplugged" and I know I hadn't plugged it into the wall or USB for about 12 hours. I did restart once....could that be the reason why the time since last unplugged is incorrect?
My battery has been acting funny lately. Some nights I go to bed with the battery at 100% and when I wake up it's still at 100%. Other nights it loses 10-15% (in about 9 hours). I don't have anything running in the background that I'm aware of that would cause such a discrepancy. A couple nights ago the battery lost 10-12% overnight with the phone turned off! Still the phone was apparently awake all night. How is that possible?
I'm too lazy right now to post a screenshot since xda only accepts urls.
The same here after flashing a new custom rom.
After turning on the phone and making this screenshot percentage immediately went down for 10 to 15 %.
You can check things like that pretty good with apps like Battery Monitor Widget.
Did both of you try to recalibrate the battery?
Do a full cycle charge to 100% use it till 10% then wipe battery stats and charge phone to 100 again
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k1llacanon said:
Do a full cycle charge to 100% use it till 10% then wipe battery stats and charge phone to 100 again
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Why would you only go down to 10? Might as well drain the battery completely. It's not going to damage anything unless you let it sit around dead for weeks, possibly even months.
It's never good to completely drain a lion battery
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k1llacanon said:
It's never good to completely drain a lion battery
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Actually, for a proper cell calibration, it is best to drain the battery completely. Many agree and I have never heard a dev say that draining it dead hurts the battery. It is essential for each cell to be empty in order to properly and fully charge a li-ion battery (without this, % figures will be non-calibrated over time). Just like it is of good practice to let the device charge and extra hour or so once the indicator light turns green (to ensure 100% after trickle mode).
Rule 1: Battery calibration does absolutely nothing. Deleting battery stats will never, ever do a single thing to help your phone's battery calibration.
Rule 2: Standby drain is almost always because of partial wakelock or kernel wakelock. Install Betterbatterystats to figure out what the issue is.
Rule 3: If your phone is in a good reception area and still experiences heavy standby drain, charge the phone until it reaches max voltage (4.2 or 4.3), then use it until it shuts off, then go to hboot until it shuts off, then charge to full again, preferably with the phone off. Wait about an hour after you first see the green light to turn it on.
After that, enjoy. If you still have issues, I would suggest backing up everything and attempting an ruu flash with the battery at 100%.
I failed to mention it, but I haven't rooted or installed a custom rom.
I'll try better battery stats to see what I can find out with that.
Many of My Friends are facing Problem With Battery as Rom shows wrong information about remaining Battery %... As a result your phone goes off and when you start your Phone again it starts to show different % battery that mean that your battery is not Calibrate.. I am making this guide so that every one on this world may enjoy their phone for long time...
Warning Do at your own RISK...! Dont do it again and again
Steps you need to Do -1 First thing you need to do is let your battery goes to 0%.. then again start your phone(Don't plug in charger) and repeat 1st step until your phone denies to turn on back..
-2 Then Charge your phone in Switched off mode to 100%
-3 Unplug your charger
-4 On phone
-5 Your phone is going to show % of battery lesser than 100%
-6 Charge your phone again in on mode to 100%
-7 Unplug your charger
-8 Restart your phone and repeat Steps from 4 to 8 again and again until on every restart u battery % shows about 97%to100%
-9Next step is to calibrate your battery Download free app from plat Store that is Battery Calibration
-10 Calibrate your Battery with the help of that app and make sure that your Battery % is 100
-11 After Calibration Use ur Battery Upto 0%
-12 Then Charge it again and Your battery will be Calibrated...
Enjoy..
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shreyans4020 said:
Many of My Friends are facing Problem With Battery as Rom shows wrong information about remaining Battery %... As a result your phone goes off and when you start your Phone again it starts to show different % battery that mean that your battery is not Calibrate.. I am making this guide so that every one on this world may enjoy their phone for long time...
Enjoy..
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DON'T ever do this! Discharging a Li-ion battery completely WILL decrease your battery life.
Next, the battery calibration app is nothing more but a hoax. It only deletes a file containing the battery stats which is ONLY used in the battery statistics screen in settings.
So please, DON'T!
It's true you get the same result from the battery calibrate app by wiping battery stats in recovery. Draining your battery does decrease battery life of li-ion batteries, same goes for your laptop. The theory to cycle your battery is a myth and actually wrecks your battery.
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bugadani said:
DON'T ever do this! Discharging a Li-ion battery completely WILL decrease your battery life.
Next, the battery calibration app is nothing more but a hoax. It only deletes a file containing the battery stats which is ONLY used in the battery statistics screen in settings.
So please, DON'T!
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The 0% reported by the operating system is actually a bit higher than the voltage at which li-ion batteries will become damaged. Any modern phone should not allow you to discharge the battery to the point where it could cause damage.
Also there was an employee from Google IIRC that said wiping battery stats was useless because its only a file that keeps track of what apps used the battery and it wiped automatically when charged to 100%.
bugadani said:
DON'T ever do this! Discharging a Li-ion battery completely WILL decrease your battery life.
Next, the battery calibration app is nothing more but a hoax. It only deletes a file containing the battery stats which is ONLY used in the battery statistics screen in settings.
So please, DON'T!
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Well when there is fall in battery from 100% to zero in 10 min then u have to calibrate
I am not saying to calibtate it daily... as i said you have to go to zero once to complete one cycle..
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The 0% reported by the operating system is actually a bit higher than the voltage at which li-ion batteries will become damaged. Any modern phone should not allow you to discharge the battery to the point where it could cause damage.
Also there was an employee from Google IIRC that said wiping battery stats was useless because its only a file that keeps track of what apps used the battery and it wiped automatically when charged to 100%.
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True.. i m getting what u want to say about labor force..
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Well when there is fall in battery from 100% to zero in 10 min then u have to calibrate
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I admit, when that happens, the battery circuit is probably in a dumb state and it _may_ be useful then. But doing this regularly is incredibly dangerous for the battery. Yes, some phones bias the battery reading but the post suggests to actually force it empty while turning it back on and on and on and that really kills it.
Still, using the app is just pure nonsense.
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I admit, when that happens, the battery circuit is probably in a dumb state and it _may_ be useful then. But doing this regularly is incredibly dangerous for the battery. Yes, some phones bias the battery reading but the post suggests to actually force it empty while turning it back on and on and on and that really kills it.
Still, using the app is just pure nonsense.
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No post suggest that drain battery once to zero then charge it again and again upto actual 100%
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shreyans4020 said:
No post suggest that drain battery once to zero then charge it again and again upto actual 100%
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How about the 1st point of the first post? "Drain it to 0 then turn it on and on again until it doesnt turn on anymore"?
You could brick an hp touchpad by doing this.
bugadani said:
How about the 1st point of the first post? "Drain it to 0 then turn it on and on again until it doesnt turn on anymore"?
You could brick an hp touchpad by doing this.
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Because 0% shown by the phone is.not actually 0% to gain that actual 0% we have to do that
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You do realize why they make the reported 0% above the actual 0%. If you drain a lithium ion battery to actual 0% you'll permanently damage it. Also calibration is only useful if you want the OS to read the battery percentage more correctly. Lithium ion batteries themselves work perfectly fine with partial charge cycles.
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You do realize why they make the reported 0% above the actual 0%. If you drain a lithium ion battery to actual 0% you'll permanently damage it. Also calibration is only useful if you want the OS to read the battery percentage more correctly. Lithium ion batteries themselves work perfectly fine with partial charge cycles.
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Actually your phone will not turn on before damage point so don't worry about that ...
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Actually your phone will not turn on before damage point so don't worry about that ...
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That doesn't make any sense - you're stating in that post that turning on the phone damages the battery.
I will state this again: if you force your phone on and on again until it doesn't react, you may and on the long run probably will damage your battery. If your battery is not removable, this can also easily brick your device as seen with HP Touchpads.
If you feel that you must do something, simply drain the battery _once_ then charge it. This is the only thing that a sane electric engineer will ever advise.
Well that worked on my phone... i said that do at your own risk.... actually i am saying the same thing that drain your battery.. but if battery is not calibrate sometimes phone goes off even on 36% and if u charge at that point to hundread then that method will not work...
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Thank us so much working perfectly for me
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DraXonic said:
Many of My Friends are facing Problem With Battery as Rom shows wrong information about remaining Battery %... As a result your phone goes off and when you start your Phone again it starts to show different % battery that mean that your battery is not Calibrate.. I am making this guide so that every one on this world may enjoy their phone for long time...
Warning Do at your own RISK...! Dont do it again and again
Steps you need to Do -1 First thing you need to do is let your battery goes to 0%.. then again start your phone(Don't plug in charger) and repeat 1st step until your phone denies to turn on back..
-2 Then Charge your phone in Switched off mode to 100%
-3 Unplug your charger
-4 On phone
-5 Your phone is going to show % of battery lesser than 100%
-6 Charge your phone again in on mode to 100%
-7 Unplug your charger
-8 Restart your phone and repeat Steps from 4 to 8 again and again until on every restart u battery % shows about 97%to100%
-9Next step is to calibrate your battery Download free app from plat Store that is Battery Calibration
-10 Calibrate your Battery with the help of that app and make sure that your Battery % is 100
-11 After Calibration Use ur Battery Upto 0%
-12 Then Charge it again and Your battery will be Calibrated...
Enjoy..
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This is why you shouldn't/ need not calibrate your batteries.. It'll do you more harm than good.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration
are we in need to wipe battery status for once in the recovery
What about for me, me tab has been saying 1% the past 3 hours and I've been using it and trying to kill it so hard but whatever I do it won't die. I want to "truly" get it to 1% or even 0% so I can then charge it back up to 100% in hopes of calibrating the battery to show what my actual % is. Any help will be appreciated greatly.