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[Q] New ATT cust data

So my wife and I are coming from tmobile. There we had the 5 gig throttle but unlimited data. Verizon now offers unlimited as well. I'm still within my cancel period. Anyone hear of luck with getting ATT to give unlimited to a new cust if we threaten to return phones and cancel?
Sent from my Inspire '4g'.

Yeah good luck with that. AT&T customer service is atrocious at best, and the order of the day is to nickel and dime the customers more and more while taking away more services. This phone has kept me on the network for a little while longer but before inspire came around I was more than ready to jump ship. My prediction... They tell you, "See ya!"

From what I have heard and read, they can only give you the unlimited plan if you've had it before and it was accidentally removed during the phone upgrade. And even those people are having a hard time getting it. Their system can't even offer it to you if they wanted since you've never had it. Again, this is just what i've gathered from reading here

I don't know if that loophole is still open, but.. Buy a used iPhone 2G and insert your SIM. After a little while you'll receive an automated text that unlimited iPhone data plan has been added to your account. Voila! Now you're free to grandfather that plan to other devices.

AnyMal said:
I don't know if that loophole is still open, but.. Buy a used iPhone 2G and insert your SIM. After a little while you'll receive an automated text that unlimited iPhone data plan has been added to your account. Voila! Now you're free to grandfather that plan to other devices.
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Yup, that still works.

You knew what you were signing up for when you switched, so I don't know why you would try complaining to at&t.

The iphone 2g thing still works. I did it on a new line with a new sim with out issue. Not sure if it still works if you do it on a line that already had service. I had two lines with them fire years and opened a new one for the inspire.

Of course I knew it signing up... just thought I might be able to live with it...
Has to be a 2g iPhone? Just put my sim in and use it till i get that message and then switch back? Seems like a major oversight on ATT's part. Can I use a barrowed iPhone? What kind of timeframe we talking about.
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hololight said:
Of course I knew it signing up... just thought I might be able to live with it...
Has to be a 2g iPhone? Just put my sim in and use it till i get that message and then switch back? Seems like a major oversight on ATT's part. Can I use a barrowed iPhone? What kind of timeframe we talking about.
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You have to activate it through iTunes.

Our fight Against VZW & HTC

http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
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If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.
Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.

Im not happy about this, if it is or going to happen but even if we root the device, carriers don't have to allow it on their service. After all we did modify the device and thats all they need to use agaianst us...

Yes and since when can they see what we are doing and what else could they find out using that aoftware

oh noes...my porn watching days are coming to an end....

Regarding Tmo, yes they allow tethering for free, but throttle you after 5gb. So I'm not going to jump over there. I don't think rooting should be prevented, but it is understandable that vzw would want to stop unpaid tethering. Unlike Tmo they do charge extra for that.
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Honestly, I think they should just make hotspot free after they start tiered plans. They'll get a their money either way.
But this move is something I can totally understand. Do I like it, no. It's a real shame how closed Android is becoming. I never thought we would get to this point, but this time next year, Android might not be open as we'd like it.
Only hope of keeping Android Android is the Nexus line. Hopefully Google starts to bring it to all carriers in a yearly fashion.
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So I guess the question is, since the thunderbolt was htc most locked down phone to date, is if any of this root identifying software is located deep inside its code? I'm coming from sprint and the epic 4G and there was code hidden in there called carrier IQ that pretty much logged everything you did on the phone, your calls trxt, usage, whatever. Sounds alarming that it had that ability but what was weird is that even though it was running and functional the actual logging was turned off. I, and a lot of other people, wondered why this would be in a phone and after reading this im thinking sprint made samsung put it in there. So now I'm curious about what verizon asked htc to hide in the thunderbolt?
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2 things. Verizon can see on there computer what software your on. So that right there will immediately through up a red flag. Another thing I'm kinda leaning toward Verizon on this one. For example when 4G hits my area. Verizon customers will increase. Doing so if my neighbor is tethering off his phone constantly then he's taking up all the bandwidth and my quality of service will depreciate. Now if he was capped and paying for tethering he would use it more conservative. I believe this is what Verizon is getting at. It's not about control , its about quality of network service for others.

There's probably no way to sue them bastards... It's their network and this is just a cap in data usage (like they haven't done that already.)
Verizon has been evil since the very beginning. All they wanted was our money, and probably our soul.

tyvallely said:
http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...rooting-manufacturers-carriers.html#post65013
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If you haven't heard all ready Verizon is tracking down root users and limiting there data or fully suspending it so watch out. But we have to fight back against them by hiding Verizon from seeing that we are proudly rooted and some people have said the would sue Verizon. Please do whatever you can to fight against this.
Also motorola and htc are going to start doing the same.
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Complete nonsense (ok not complete, just a lot of it), both this post and the post you link to.
I brought this up with a few friends at Verizon (in various departments) yesterday, all had the same response .. a chuckle.

This whole thread is a fail. I freaking hate nonsense rumors.
FoxRacR17 said:
So I guess the question is, since the thunderbolt was htc most locked down phone to date, is if any of this root identifying software is located deep inside its code? I'm coming from sprint and the epic 4G and there was code hidden in there called carrier IQ that pretty much logged everything you did on the phone, your calls trxt, usage, whatever. Sounds alarming that it had that ability but what was weird is that even though it was running and functional the actual logging was turned off. I, and a lot of other people, wondered why this would be in a phone and after reading this im thinking sprint made samsung put it in there. So now I'm curious about what verizon asked htc to hide in the thunderbolt?
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No, no root identifying software on the phone.
newalker91 said:
These threats are insignificant. Blocking users from rooting their phone would be a loss for all, as it is one of the major reasons for buying Android. If they did so to stop users from tethering, then we'll be seeing a spike in T-Mobile customers as they allow you to tether at your leisure for no additional cost. Being on an open source operating system, it would be illegal for them to tell you how you can use your technology and what modifications you're allowed to make to it.
I'll stay rooted and I will continue to tether via USB and rack up my apparently corporate-rattling 1GB of stolen bandwidth to demo THEIR products. Interesting concept.
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Nothing in Apache or GPLv2 prevents them from telling you how you can use your technology, or prevents them from locking down the device.
magicriggs said:
2 things. Verizon can see on there computer what software your on. So that right there will immediately through up a red flag. Another thing I'm kinda leaning toward Verizon on this one. For example when 4G hits my area. Verizon customers will increase. Doing so if my neighbor is tethering off his phone constantly then he's taking up all the bandwidth and my quality of service will depreciate. Now if he was capped and paying for tethering he would use it more conservative. I believe this is what Verizon is getting at. It's not about control , its about quality of network service for others.
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Verizon can not tell if you are on a custom rom or not.

cuguy said:
There's probably no way to sue them bastards... It's their network and this is just a cap in data usage (like they haven't done that already.)
Verizon has been evil since the very beginning. All they wanted was our money, and probably our soul.
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Not sure if evil is the right word...sure it sucks but they are a business, not a charity.
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I dont have my TB yet, but i plan to root it and run Das BAMF, but not tether anything. Hopefully they dont just lump rooted phones together.

Jcase bringing the truth
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Hey lets pretend the article is 100% accurate which because P3Droid wrote it I would say has some possibility of being the case, as of this point verizon is not doing anything besides tracking. And no one knows when and if they will do anything else. Theirs a whole lot of what they can do, but besides having a legal and finance department, they also have a marketing department which wont let them unleash a PR nightmare. Taking 1/10 (which is what I believe the current agreed upon number of root users, i may be wrong with this figure) of your smartphone users and either canceling their contracts or killing service on their devices with threat of an ETF would probably amount to over 1 million users with root access being effected. It just wont happen that way, its not logical for them to do it, because with that many users effected it would be all over TV and such.
The only hope that you could sue them would be if they hit you with a ETF, which they probably wouldn't. Most likely their looking for people sharing wifi on their devices with 3rd party apps just like AT&T did and will tack on the mifi hotspot cost to your bill if you continue to do do, and say if you don't like it break your own contract.
If they were to all out attack everyone with root access I would really be shocked, specifically because they would have to most likely cancel everyone contract with no ETF and then users would just flock to sprint. Who regardless of what this article says probably wont follow suit, at least for a few years because of their market share and the Tmobile & at&t merger.
Again the end of this is just my two cents but the beginning is true VZ isnt doing anything besides information gathering at this point.

I work at Verizon. I can pull up basically everything you see on your about info. Including software.

magicriggs said:
I work at Verizon. I can pull up basically everything you see on your about info. Including software.
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You might be able to pull up the build finger print, or radio version, but those shouldn't differ. The fingerprints should stay consistent. You can't see that user123 is using RomX instead of stock.

Private message me and ill pull up your account.

magicriggs said:
Private message me and ill pull up your account.
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Yes, I will get right on that, handing you (a stranger, and possibly an employee at Verizon) my name/number </sarcasm>.

cuguy said:
There's probably no way to sue them bastards... It's their network and this is just a cap in data usage (like they haven't done that already.)
Verizon has been evil since the very beginning. All they wanted was our money, and probably our soul.
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yes its their network but we paid for our phones and we should be able to do whatever we want with them

[Q] Credit for outage

Has anyone heard from Verizon (or from speaking to CSRs) if they are going to be crediting us back a day (or more if this continues) of data or anything to compensate for the fact the network was down.

I know any time I have had data issues and asked for a credit, they always tell me since I have unlimited there is no way for them to credit the amount.. anyone else had any luck?

Unless you're on a corporate account, I doubt they're going to do much and just say that this "slight inconvenience" will give you "more reliable, faster, and further extended coverage, so it was for your own good". lol

I doubt you're going to get credited. And if you do, it'll be what? Maybe $5? Yipee, you can go get a ****ing Happy Meal now.

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You want your dollar back? Go ask, I'm sure they'll just pull a dollar out of their pocket just for the lulz.
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Doubt it. Unless you missed calls or had absolutely no signal, I really don't think they'll give you credit. But thats just my guess.

I dont want credit for the data.. i want something for the huge inconvenience this outage is causing me... Imma go ***** n see what I can get...
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Drukan said:
I dont want credit for the data.. i want something for the huge inconvenience this outage is causing me... Imma go ***** n see what I can get...
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ZOMG my phone doesn't work! It's the end of the world! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

dbisch said:
ZOMG my phone doesn't work! It's the end of the world! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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You're on a site...for people who love their phones....Just sayin'.

I complained to them this morning, and explained to them that I work 3rd shift and have felt this from the beginning. After rebooting multiple times, I thought my use of the LTE off radio app had messed up my radio.
I then factory restored and of course that didn't fix the problem. When customer service finally opened I called and explained my frustration and how they could of at least sent Thunderbolt users a text message that it wasn't on the consumers end.
She said that not every TB user is experiencing the problem, so testing everyone wasn't an option and that Google backed up all my settings (yeah right) so she didn't see the problem. I hope you all have better luck.
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No, you still have data... you just dont have your LTE. I would laugh at anyone requesting credit lol...

Skynet has now been activated...

killerkommotion said:
You're on a site...for people who love their phones....Just sayin'.
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I'm on the site because I like to tinker with my phone. That doesn't mean that I'm going to cry to Verizon the moment my phone isn't working and demand a few dollars for reimbursement.

This is partly why Verizon charges so much. They have one of the best customer service for a cell phone company... and they have to pay all these people to talk to dumb and annoying people who expect credits and discounts left and right or people that ***** about everything.
But seriously, just do the fix thing and you'll be on 3g, good [temporarily] enough. Its not like 4g costs more than 3g, so without a price difference there's no way to get a credit to your account. If this lasts for a long time then maybe Verizon should do something, lets just hope they fix it soon.

I'm not saying one camp is right or wrong more than the other. But I am saying that I bought the Thunderbolt to replace my original Droid for one major reason: 4G LTE.
For the past 3 weeks that I've owned my 'Bolt, 4G LTE connections have been spotty and very inconsistent. I assumed the reasoning was any of the following:
1. Custom ROMs I've installed.
2. Custom radio I installed.
3. Custom kernels I installed.
At no point did I think it was because of Verizon's 4G LTE not fully "being there".
Now that we are experiencing nationwide 4G LTE outage, this paints a starkly different picture for me than what I had previously thought.
What I think is a fair resolution is for folks to be able to return their Thunderbolts and have their new-every-two reset (if they used it to purchase a Thunderbolt) if they live in an area where 4G LTE coverage was listed.
Whether this outage is a short-term issue or part of a series of long-term growing pains/headaches, I think folks who bought this phone for the 4G should either get 4G or have the opportunity to return the phone. That's fair in my opinion.
M.

I have a slightly used Droid x I will gladly exchange for your TB.

im blown away by how many people think its unreasonable to expect verizon to provide that service that we all pay for. i guess we should all just bend over and take it like all of the PSN/PS3 customers, huh?

This thread is a joke.
If you are posting on this board, then i'm fairly confident that you don't deserve a credit because:
- You most likely temporarily turned on 3G (EVDO) data and are getting just about the same speeds as before
- You probably had your LTE radio switched off
- According to Verizon's policy, messing with these radios, flashing roms, etc... voids your warranty... and i'm sure they don't like giving credits for that.
In all honesty I can feel for the guy/gal who is stuck on 1X right now, while trying to tether so they can download their work mail.... they are the ones who deserve an explanation... and maybe a very small compensation. (what, $5?)

jacobk said:
im blown away by how many people think its unreasonable to expect verizon to provide that service that we all pay for. i guess we should all just bend over and take it like all of the PSN/PS3 customers, huh?
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PSN has been out for more than a week. You can't access ANYTHING with their network.
4G LTE has been down for less than 24 hrs. You can still make phones calls and access data, although slowly.
Big difference.
I just think it's silly that people are crying to Verizon when it's been less than 24 hrs. Give them some time to fix it for Christ's sake.

jacobk said:
im blown away by how many people think its unreasonable to expect verizon to provide that service that we all pay for. i guess we should all just bend over and take it like all of the PSN/PS3 customers, huh?
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Ok, I'll bite. We pay ~$1/day for data service. So if we simplify and say that for one day things didn't work, then we should get a $1 credit. But data is not completely out. Only 4g data. Since you're not completely out of service, you're not entitled to the entire $1. We could argue all day about how much 4g data service is worth but in reality we can't complain. Data is still $30/month just like it was and still is for 3g customers. Now what exactly do you want a credit for again? Is it really worth it for you to waste an hour or so of your time to get < $1 credited to your account? VZW doesn't have a habit of long outages or treating customers badly so why does everyone want to jump on their back about an outage like this?

Vzw gsiii $0 etf

So I searched through the forums for this, and didn't see anything so I figured I'd make a new topic....
I'm currently on a family plan, and I got my GS3 this summer on day one as I had preordered it to save my unlimited data...
However, for a multitude of reasons, I'm strongly considering closing my line off of the family plan and getting my own plan on ATT.
When I got my GS3, my receipt said $0 for the ETF, as did a number of other people I remember seeing around release time.
I'm curious, has anyone who had the $0 ETF canceled or heard of anyone who also had it canceling their plan with no charge?

Out of curiosity why Att? Not only will you not get unlimited data, the service is not as good as Verizon. I know because I came from them after 3 years of putting up with slow 3g and then getting threatened to have my plan switched and throttled without my permission. The only thing I miss from them is cheaper plan and not trying to lock down phones like Verizon which is the one thing that might drive me away eventually.
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cell128 said:
Out of curiosity why Att? Not only will you not get unlimited data, the service is not as good as Verizon. I know because I came from them after 3 years of putting up with slow 3g and then getting threatened to have my plan switched and throttled without my permission. The only thing I miss from them is cheaper plan and not trying to lock down phones like Verizon which is the one thing that might drive me away eventually.
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Discounts through work, and they still have LTE. Plus I would prefer a GSM-based network, and ATT > TMobile

shredder47 said:
Discounts through work, and they still have LTE. Plus I would prefer a GSM-based network, and ATT > TMobile
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And the funny thing is ATTs LTE speeds are on par with T-Mo's HSPA+ lol plus T-Mo has a reasonably priced unlimited everything plan with no throttling. How exactly is ATT better than T-Mo?
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cvsolidx17 said:
And the funny thing is ATTs LTE speeds are on par with T-Mo's HSPA+ lol plus T-Mo has a reasonably priced unlimited everything plan with no throttling. How exactly is ATT better than T-Mo?
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T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds are only good in certain areas. You'll hit a lot of dead zones and be on EDGE a lot more than you will be on AT&T.
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sounds like a poor decision.

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T-Mobile's HSPA+ speeds are only good in certain areas. You'll hit a lot of dead zones and be on EDGE a lot more than you will be on AT&T.
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I can confirm this. Switched from T-Mobile to Verizon because of frequent dropped calls and their data coverage is horrible unless you live in a good size city. Plan prices were the best though.

Also their LTE is running on 2 different bands I beleive. My friend has an iPhone 5 and we compared speeds using the speedtest app. Mine was pulling 25DL while his was only getting about 5DL. I may be wrong about the bands but I sure made fun of that speed. Especially since Verizon lte is already carrying a heavier load than att's lte which is still kinda new
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Nightmare_24_7 said:
I can confirm this. Switched from T-Mobile to Verizon because of frequent dropped calls and their data coverage is horrible unless you live in a good size city. Plan prices were the best though.
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I can also confirm this. I used to be on T-Mobile 2 year ago and there were a lot of moments where I couldn't even call or text a friend at all. Switched to Verizon and all of those issues vanished. Haven't regretted my switch ever since
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I appreciate everyone's concern about my carrier choice, but I'm more curious about the orignal question of if anyone has heard of anyone switching with the $0 ETF

you should contact verizon about that if you realyl want to know the answer.
get on the chat, itll take you less than 10 minutes

shredder47 said:
I appreciate everyone's concern about my carrier choice, but I'm more curious about the orignal question of if anyone has heard of anyone switching with the $0 ETF
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LOL, I too was wondering about this.
P.S. I agree with what everyone is saying. D O N ' T D O I T!!!!

shredder47 said:
I appreciate everyone's concern about my carrier choice, but I'm more curious about the orignal question of if anyone has heard of anyone switching with the $0 ETF
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Usually they charge you when you break your contact, unless your close to it being over they may let you go. Depends on which kind of service Rep you get.
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Unlocked Nexus 5 (T-Mobie/Sprint)

I'm currently on T-Mobile, and want to try Sprint once again however it appears my device does not have a ESN only IMEI? how do i get my ESN?

Just give them ur imei # if its in there database then ur good. I can tell u as of now the nexus 5 has trouble receiving calls on LTE....but its not a deal breaker
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markdapimp said:
I'm currently on T-Mobile, and want to try Sprint once again however it appears my device does not have a ESN only IMEI? how do i get my ESN?
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I would highly recommend staying away from Spint. Nothing but problems with my N5 and Sprint. The real winner is AT&T, I would recommend them 100%.
If you need specifics of why I hate Sprint so much, send me a PM. But I left them, and am so much happier on AT&T.

markdapimp said:
I'm currently on T-Mobile, and want to try Sprint once again however it appears my device does not have a ESN only IMEI? how do i get my ESN?
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ESN/EMEI are both the same thing older devices use the term esn but if you look at newer model devices usually will say emei instead of esn but same thing. They're both serial numbers on activating a device..
And in my opinion if you want to go sprint then go for it.don't just skip on it because someone says sprint is "crap" its not that bad. The only reason why most people don't like sprint is because they don't have a wide/big 4gLTE connection.comparing it to at&t and Verizon which obviously the two competing carriers with a wide 4gLTE connection. I'm a sprint nexus 5 user/owner and its not that bad.when I first signed a 2 year agreement with sprint last month I was getting 3g/low 4gLTE connection. And now my connection has increased and is at a steady 4gLTE with good signal. I still drop down to 3g occasionally here and there

gsteelx said:
I would highly recommend staying away from Spint. Nothing but problems with my N5 and Sprint. The real winner is AT&T, I would recommend them 100%.
If you need specifics of why I hate Sprint so much, send me a PM. But I left them, and am so much happier on AT&T.
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Dude it's not cool to go around badmouthing someone without bothering to at least give some kind of anecdotal evidence. The problems you had very well could be an isolated case or configuration error that wouldn't necessarily effect the OP in the slightest.
I personally use my Nexus 5 with Ting which runs on the Sprint network and have had no issues whatsoever.

MasterTec said:
Dude it's not cool to go around badmouthing someone without bothering to at least give some kind of anecdotal evidence. The problems you had very well could be an isolated case or configuration error that wouldn't necessarily effect the OP in the slightest.
I personally use my Nexus 5 with Ting which runs on the Sprint network and have had no issues whatsoever.
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And as I said in the other thread you quoted me on, if you are having a good experience with them, than that is great.
He PMed me, I told him the specifics and problems I had, and thats that...
I am entitled to my opinion, and to share it with whomever I want.
The whole idea of Ting is a little weird, btw. I'd rather just have a set plan, Ting could (potentially) get very expensive.
How is your experience with their billing, have you reached their highest plan?

I just asked my friend on sprint she's got a HTC one and boy does she hate sprint I'll think I'll stay with t mobile and keep my lightning fast internet speeds while she can keep her unlimited dailup speeds (contracted)
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