[Q] HELP - messed up my htc one x - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Hi guys,
it's the first time I post for getting some help, I'm not a prof like you guys, but I'm used to change roms on my phones, I normally found out solutions just searching on forums, but this time I'm really desperate.
I got this one x from a friend and it was running a Cynogenmod 10, everything was fine, but I decided to try a new rom. I'm sure I did something stupid formatting the sd (this is the first device I have with virtual sd..).
By the way, the phone now just enter the fastboot mode. No recovery mode. I try to flash, but I'm always getting into new errors.
At the moment the bootloader says
EVITA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID HTC_621 (IT WAS CID 11111111 but I changed it in one of my many tries, don't ask me how!!)
HBOOT 2.14.0000
RADIO 0.24P 32.09.06
OpenDSP-v34 1.0.45.1219
eMMC-boot
Nov 26 2012 18:37:14:-1
Please I need some help, I want my phone just work, I don't care which rom, I don't care how old, just need to swicht it on again !!
thank you guys in advance
Luca

Evita....wrong forum. You need the AT&T HTC one XL forum ! I reported this thread to be moved to the correct forum and section.
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Well,
this is already an amazing help: you mean I spent ten days working with the wrong packages, and my phone is not the one I thought I had?
Can you just confirm that FOR SURE my phone is an AT&T HTC one XL??
Thank you very much,
and sorry for it
Mr Hofs said:
Evita....wrong forum. You need the AT&T HTC one XL forum ! I reported this thread to be moved to the correct forum and section.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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[email protected] said:
Hi guys,
it's the first time I post for getting some help, I'm not a prof like you guys, but I'm used to change roms on my phones, I normally found out solutions just searching on forums, but this time I'm really desperate.
I got this one x from a friend and it was running a Cynogenmod 10, everything was fine, but I decided to try a new rom. I'm sure I did something stupid formatting the sd (this is the first device I have with virtual sd..).
By the way, the phone now just enter the fastboot mode. No recovery mode. I try to flash, but I'm always getting into new errors.
At the moment the bootloader says
EVITA PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
CID HTC_621 (IT WAS CID 11111111 but I changed it in one of my many tries, don't ask me how!!)
HBOOT 2.14.0000
RADIO 0.24P 32.09.06
OpenDSP-v34 1.0.45.1219
eMMC-boot
Nov 26 2012 18:37:14:-1
Please I need some help, I want my phone just work, I don't care which rom, I don't care how old, just need to swicht it on again !!
thank you guys in advance
Luca
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One thing that really worries me about your post is that you don't know how your CID got changed. There isn't a single method to fix a wiped sd card that would entail the CID being changed. This suggests that you were trying multiple different things without having any idea what you were doing, to be honest you're probably really lucky you haven't bricked your phone.
Did you perform a factory reset from the bootloader, if so you've corrupted the sd card (it's a bug on this device when it's modified). Not sure which recovery you have installed, but flash TWRP 2.6 then wipe the sd card, then mount the sd card, if it still doesn't show up properly in Windows you'll need to format it using Windows.
You're not being very specific with what you're saying, what are you trying to flash, and what errors are you getting? Without you giving all of the pertinent details it's very difficult to assist you.
Sent from my Evita
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[email protected] said:
Well,
this is already an amazing help: you mean I spent ten days working with the wrong packages, and my phone is not the one I thought I had?
Can you just confirm that FOR SURE my phone is an AT&T HTC one XL??
Thank you very much,
and sorry for it
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You're phone is codenamed Evita, it's definitely the HTC One XL.
Sent from my Evita

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timmaaa said:
One thing that really worries me about your post is that you don't know how your CID got changed. There isn't a single method to fix a wiped sd card that would entail the CID being changed. This suggests that you were trying multiple different things without having any idea what you were doing, to be honest you're probably really lucky you haven't bricked your phone.
Did you perform a factory reset from the bootloader, if so you've corrupted the sd card (it's a bug on this device when it's modified). Not sure which recovery you have installed, but flash TWRP 2.6 then wipe the sd card, then mount the sd card, if it still doesn't show up properly in Windows you'll need to format it using Windows.
You're not being very specific with what you're saying, what are you trying to flash, and what errors are you getting? Without you giving all of the pertinent details it's very difficult to assist you.
Sent from my Evita
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You're phone is codenamed Evita, it's definitely the HTC One XL.
Sent from my Evita
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Well, actually I know how I changed it, the problem is I was working thinking to have a different device.
About the CID, I used the JBFWF recovery tool, and during the process it asks you to chenge the cid to the new one. I will follow your suggestion, thank you again!

errors while flashing
timmaaa said:
One thing that really worries me about your post is that you don't know how your CID got changed. There isn't a single method to fix a wiped sd card that would entail the CID being changed. This suggests that you were trying multiple different things without having any idea what you were doing, to be honest you're probably really lucky you haven't bricked your phone.
Did you perform a factory reset from the bootloader, if so you've corrupted the sd card (it's a bug on this device when it's modified). Not sure which recovery you have installed, but flash TWRP 2.6 then wipe the sd card, then mount the sd card, if it still doesn't show up properly in Windows you'll need to format it using Windows.
You're not being very specific with what you're saying, what are you trying to flash, and what errors are you getting? Without you giving all of the pertinent details it's very difficult to assist you.
Sent from my Evita
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You're phone is codenamed Evita, it's definitely the HTC One XL.
Sent from my Evita
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Thank you for the reply.
Well, following your suggestion I tried to flash with twrp 2.6 but I'm getting the error message FAILED: remote not allowed. I tried with twrp 2.7, but same issue..
What could I do??
Thank you very much

Update
Thanks to you guys I finally partially solved the problem. I unblock the bootloader, I installed twrp 2.7.0.0 , I can enter the recovery mode. I still didn't find out how to recreate my virtual sd. But I'm now a little bit more optimistic.
thank you once again for your help

I told you how to restore your sd in my post.
Sent from my Evita

timmaaa said:
I told you how to restore your sd in my post.
Sent from my Evita
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I tried to follow your tips, but it is like the computer doensn't reckon the sd. it's playing the sound of installing and disinstalling the usb device. Of course the driver are fine. it is not allowing mounting the sd. I can not neither enter the sideload.

Did you wipe the sd card using TWRP first?
Sent from my Evita

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timmaaa said:
Did you wipe the sd card using TWRP first?
Sent from my Evita
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Yes, I tried both with twrp and then with cwmd .. I get an error saying Error mounting /storage/sdcard0/.android_secure!
skipping format
data wipe complete

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[email protected] said:
Yes, I tried both with twrp and then with cwmd .. I get an error saying Error mounting /storage/sdcard0/.android_secure!
skipping format
data wipe complete
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Thanks to your help I finally solved my problem. How I did it?? I changed pc. Same operating system, same drivers, don't ask me why, but the second one immediately reckon my drive F:, I copied the rom, and installed in recovery mode.
Thank you once again

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[Q] Help! Virtuous Quattro

Ok, Guys i used the Viruos Inquisition and that was the ICS release and the first one for ICS. I decided to go ahead and try out the Virtuous Quattro...I guess i made a stupid mistake when doing so because when i wiped the Virtuos Inquisition and went ahed and installed the Virtuous Quattro..the phone boots up but as soon as you get the Virtuous Quattro logo it starts the animation of it and freezes right there following with a reboot. Now i hope the device is not bricked or in this case if it is i can fix it, i can go to the recover and stuff, But right now i have no idea how to get this going. I wiped the Virtuous Quattro and the phone boots up with that white htc screen, and keeps rebooting..Please walk me through this if you feel merciful for my idiocy..
Kirthaal said:
Ok, Guys i used the Viruos Inquisition and that was the ICS release and the first one for ICS. I decided to go ahead and try out the Virtuous Quattro...I guess i made a stupid mistake when doing so because when i wiped the Virtuos Inquisition and went ahed and installed the Virtuous Quattro..the phone boots up but as soon as you get the Virtuous Quattro logo it starts the animation of it and freezes right there following with a reboot. Now i hope the device is not bricked or in this case if it is i can fix it, i can go to the recover and stuff, But right now i have no idea how to get this going. I wiped the Virtuous Quattro and the phone boots up with that white htc screen, and keeps rebooting..Please walk me through this if you feel merciful for my idiocy..
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Hello
Now, don't worry, this is not what is defined as "Bricked".
I can see that you have did a Full wipe of your ROM, which means, currently, your phone do not have a Firmware supported ROM installed on it.
Here are the ways you could try that will/may solve your issue.
1. Reboot your device into recovery and Connect it VIA USB and copy 3.24 RUU & Virtuous Quattro into your ROOT SD Card folder.
2. Flash 3.24 RUU from HERE, MAKE SURE YOUR SUPERCID is 11111111 - your device should reboot after Installing. Pull battery after it Reboots.
3.Eject your SD card and Reboot your device into bootloader, Select boot into recovery and insert the SD card back. Install the latest Virtuous Quattro from HERE.
4.Reboot.
This should work. Do keep me posted & thank me if it helped!
Cheers!
Thank you for your reply. I tried to do what you stated above, a when i tryed to update the firmware it says
Incorrect CID, I have no clue how to check that CID now
Kirthaal said:
Thank you for your reply. I tried to do what you stated above, a when i tryed to update the firmware it says
Incorrect CID, I have no clue how to check that CID now
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Hello,
this is the manual to get the super CID! Just scroll down to step 4. It`s pretty easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300&highlight=super+cid
Good luck !
Kirthaal said:
Thank you for your reply. I tried to do what you stated above, a when i tryed to update the firmware it says
Incorrect CID, I have no clue how to check that CID now
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Alright, After reviewing your problem, Have you tried reflashing Viruos Inquisition? Does it boot?
Hopefully I can help.
This is what i had to do to make it work. I downloaded the ADB tools so i can use the cmd promot in windows and wrote the cid to 11111111, it said tmobl or something like that before. I flashed the firmware to the one CursedBat linked and the latest one and the device update the firmware. Also here's the catch when it starts updating the firmware, it will reboot, and continue updating so whoever has a similiar problem make sure you don't shut your device off at that time, it will display update completed and provide you with the option to shut the device. It may take a bit to complete so be sure to be patient and let it work it's magic. Virtues Quattro works well so far for me.
P.S i just read your post TechnoIsMyReligion! I am not sure how i end up being in that post you linked before, but you provided a correct solution as well. I should had done that before Thanks for your replies. When it displayed incorrect CID for me when tried to update the firmware i realized i need to look for a solution with CID.
Kirthaal said:
Thank you for your reply. I tried to do what you stated above, a when i tryed to update the firmware it says
Incorrect CID, I have no clue how to check that CID now
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
1. Check your CID using fastboot getvar cid and MID using fastboot getvar mid
2a. If your CID and MID are supported by default, navigate to point 3.
2b. If your CID or MID is not supported by default, do this: (you do it at your own risk)
2c. Open PG58IMG.zip (don't extract it)
2d. Open android-info.txt in text editor
2e. Add your cidnum: <your CID> or modelid: <your MID> to the list, save file and close archive
3. Place PG58IMG.zip on your SD card
4. Boot your device holding power button + vol down button
5. Follow instructions on the screen
Kirthaal said:
This is what i had to do to make it work. I downloaded the ADB tools so i can use the cmd promot in windows and wrote the cid to 11111111, it said tmobl or something like that before. I flashed the firmware to the one CursedBat linked and the latest one and the device update the firmware. Also here's the catch when it starts updating the firmware, it will reboot, and continue updating so whoever has a similiar problem make sure you don't shut your device off at that time, it will display update completed and provide you with the option to shut the device. It may take a bit to complete so be sure to be patient and let it work it's magic. Virtues Quattro works well so far for me.
P.S i just read your post TechnoIsMyReligion! I am not sure how i end up being in that post you linked before, but you provided a correct solution as well. I should had done that before Thanks for your replies. When it displayed incorrect CID for me when tried to update the firmware i realized i need to look for a solution with CID.
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Glad you got it working I couldn't get your problem in the first place. :x it seems that you have already installed Virtous Inqusition.
Kirthaal said:
P.S i just read your post TechnoIsMyReligion! I am not sure how i end up being in that post you linked before, but you provided a correct solution as well. I should had done that before Thanks for your replies. When it displayed incorrect CID for me when tried to update the firmware i realized i need to look for a solution with CID.
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No problem You made it ;-)
This ROM rocks !
Hi I'm kinda a newbie at this and my phone just keeps rebooting and can somebody give me a simple step by step tutorial on how to fix this?
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@Cursed Bat can you tell me how to Flash 3.24 RUU? Sorry I'm a noob
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Can you please tell me how to put thing on my sd card while my phone is in recovery without removing the sd card
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I finally installed the rom and everthing but now it keeps saying theres no sim card and the process.com android phone has stopped working help please

HTC ONE S - Unbranding process

Hi all,
I've got a HTC ONE S that has Vodafone (UK) branding on it but the phone is unlocked so it takes my Orange sim card. What's the best method to remove the Vodafone branding? I just want a generic handset.
Thanks in advanced.
Are you talking about the actual physical branding or the software branding?. A simple flash to a 3rd party Rom would "debrand" your device.
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DxTcmix said:
Are you talking about the actual physical branding or the software branding?. A simple flash to a 3rd party Rom would "debrand" your device.
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Software unbranding mate. It has Vodafone crap on it. Just want it generic.
bouncyball said:
Software unbranding mate. It has Vodafone crap on it. Just want it generic.
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Just flash a debranded rom, any here exept tmobile roms would do it.
Oh and WRONG SECTION. Read the rules before posting... sheesh.....
masterkamon842 said:
Just flash a debranded rom, any here exept tmobile roms would do it.
Oh and WRONG SECTION. Read the rules before posting... sheesh.....
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tryout trickdroid's latest version
Apologies for the wrong forum, I realised that afterwards.
Right, I've now rooted my device so could someone recommend me a STOCK rom to clear out the Vodafone crap?
Thank you
EDIT - I have the S4 ONE S (1.5Ghz version)
bouncyball said:
Apologies for the wrong forum, I realised that afterwards.
Right, I've now rooted my device so could someone recommend me a STOCK rom to clear out the Vodafone crap?
Thank you
EDIT - I have the S4 ONE S (1.5Ghz version)
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Choose wise, choose carefully:
http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Ville
Eu 1.78 is pretty good actually
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JohnKoeMan said:
Choose wise, choose carefully:
http://www.shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Ville
Eu 1.78 is pretty good actually
Sent from my One S using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for that. I updated the phone to JB the other night so will these be compatible?
Also - I tried a ROM last night and it wasn't the right file type but I wiped my old OS. But as a guide told me to make a backup, I did and restored without any problems but lost SuperSU - Is this normal? Shall I just re-install?
Downloaded one but unsure how to install them as they're EXE files. What state does my phone need to be in? It also says
From:
Image Version
3.16.161.9
To:
Image Version:
1.78.401.2
Error [155]: UNKNOWN ERROR
I've tried locking my bootloader again it says 'RELOCKED' but still says TAMPERED
EDIT - In recovery screen also, it says at the top
***TAMPERED***
***UNLOCKED***
Is this normal?
I am getting no where with this and it's becoming very annoying!
I've tried reading through forum and forum, YouTube videos and various different methods!
All I want is my phone to be STOCK and it's taking me over 4 hours this morning to get no where!
bouncyball said:
I am getting no where with this and it's becoming very annoying!
I've tried reading through forum and forum, YouTube videos and various different methods!
All I want is my phone to be STOCK and it's taking me over 4 hours this morning to get no where!
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Really strange that it says relocked/tampered and tampered/unlocked in recovery...
You might've gone wrong with the relocking of your phone, undoubtedly have you checked this out.
Can you tell me what you've ben trying so far?
And another thing: if you updated to JB, these RUUs might not work any longer since they are ICS mostly.
The best thing for you is to go by a custom ROM, it is at least the easiest thing to do now.
You can always fiddle around to restore to STOCK but as you've experienced yourself already, it isn't easy.
Here's a link to what I used when I bricked my phone, it might be of some help.
http://www.htconeforum.com/forum/ht...unbrick-restore-htc-one-s-stock-relocked.html
JohnKoeMan said:
Really strange that it says relocked/tampered and tampered/unlocked in recovery...
You might've gone wrong with the relocking of your phone, undoubtedly have you checked this out.
Can you tell me what you've ben trying so far?
And another thing: if you updated to JB, these RUUs might not work any longer since they are ICS mostly.
The best thing for you is to go by a custom ROM, it is at least the easiest thing to do now.
You can always fiddle around to restore to STOCK but as you've experienced yourself already, it isn't easy.
Here's a link to what I used when I bricked my phone, it might be of some help.
http://www.htconeforum.com/forum/ht...unbrick-restore-htc-one-s-stock-relocked.html
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Thanks for the reply.
EDIT - Locking my handset I'm doing the following ;
Placing my Unlock_code.bin in the DATA folder on the toolkit and pressing RELOCK BOOTLOADER
I've tried the following ;
Running RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.78.401.2_Radio_0.16.31501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L_release_258480_signed.EXE while the phone is on the HOME SCREEN and BOOTLOADER
Running OTA_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301852xf01hejl416oev96.ZIP using Hasoon's Toolkit.
I'm getting ERROR messages 151 when installing from the phones HOME SCREEN and ERROR 131 when installing from Bootloader.
I've tried both methods while the phone is LOCKED and UNLOCKED
Currently my phone is displaying the following in the bootloader menu ;
***TAMPERED***
***UNLOCKED***
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.15.0000
RADIO-1.11-50.05.28
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Dec 14 2012, 17:10:57-1
My goal is put have a stock or stock looking ROM with the Vodafone software removed.
Thanks for reading.
Double post
bouncyball said:
Thanks for the reply.
EDIT - Locking my handset I'm doing the following ;
Placing my Unlock_code.bin in the DATA folder on the toolkit and pressing RELOCK BOOTLOADER
I've tried the following ;
Running RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.78.401.2_Radio_0.16.31501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L_release_258480_signed.EXE while the phone is on the HOME SCREEN and BOOTLOADER
Running OTA_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301852xf01hejl416oev96.ZIP using Hasoon's Toolkit.
I'm getting ERROR messages 151 when installing from the phones HOME SCREEN and ERROR 131 when installing from Bootloader.
I've tried both methods while the phone is LOCKED and UNLOCKED
Currently my phone is displaying the following in the bootloader menu ;
***TAMPERED***
***UNLOCKED***
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.15.0000
RADIO-1.11-50.05.28
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Dec 14 2012, 17:10:57-1
My goal is put have a stock or stock looking ROM with the Vodafone software removed.
Thanks for reading.
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Error 131 means the RUU is incompatible with your CID. Do you know it? Not sure where to find cid specific RUU but searching XDA will always yield answers.
Lock phone, fastboot usb connect phone, find right RUU and open the .exe
Btw you htc drivers installed on you're pc right?
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JohnKoeMan said:
Error 131 means the RUU is incompatible with your CID. Do you know it? Not sure where to find cid specific RUU but searching XDA will always yield answers.
Lock phone, fastboot usb connect phone, find right RUU and open the .exe
Btw you htc drivers installed on you're pc right?
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Thanks for the reply.
CID is something I've seen pop up - I'll have a look into this. I have HTC drivers yeah.
CID: VODAP001
bouncyball said:
Thanks for the reply.
CID is something I've seen pop up - I'll have a look into this. I have HTC drivers yeah.
CID: VODAP001
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Check here for your RUU and maybe new insight:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1936905&page=2
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JohnKoeMan said:
Check here for your RUU and maybe new insight:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1936905&page=2
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Ignore that, was for htc one X XD
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bouncyball said:
Thanks for the reply.
CID is something I've seen pop up - I'll have a look into this. I have HTC drivers yeah.
CID: VODAP001
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Read this article carefully. It will give you an insight in how difficult the process we're doing is:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/facepalm-s-off-for-htc-one-s-one-xl-and-droid-dna/
You said you downloaded the latest OTA right? This article states that with the latest OTA update we are no longer able to SUPERCID the phone, meaning only CID-specific RUUs can be applied. I can't find any RUUs for your CID, so this might just be the end of the road for this plan.
So maybe installing a ROM similar to stock might be the only good solution for you.
JohnKoeMan said:
Check here for your RUU and maybe new insight:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1936905&page=2
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Ignore that, was for htc one X XD
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Read this article carefully. It will give you an insight in how difficult the process we're doing is:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/facepalm-s-off-for-htc-one-s-one-xl-and-droid-dna/
You said you downloaded the latest OTA right? This article states that with the latest OTA update we are no longer able to SUPERCID the phone, meaning only CID-specific RUUs can be applied. I can't find any RUUs for your CID, so this might just be the end of the road for this plan.
So maybe installing a ROM similar to stock might be the only good solution for you.
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Thanks for the information - I'll give this a read in a while. I've also looked into changing the CID of my phone, followed a couple of guides but they don't seem to work, they just crash my phone.
EDIT - So, basically I have to stick with the Vodafone branding on my ONE S unless I flash to a custom ROM?
bouncyball said:
Thanks for the information - I'll give this a read in a while. I've also looked into changing the CID of my phone, followed a couple of guides but they don't seem to work, they just crash my phone.
EDIT - So, basically I have to stick with the Vodafone branding on my ONE S unless I flash to a custom ROM?
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Yeah, its the only way I guess...
Nothing wrong with custom ROMs, they're the best, trust me! :good:
JohnKoeMan said:
Yeah, its the only way I guess...
Nothing wrong with custom ROMs, they're the best, trust me! :good:
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Can you recommend me a good one to try? One that's as close to stock as possible that doesn't have any problems. This is my 3rd HTC device and the last 2 devices always had problems, hence why I wanted stock.
EDIT - Also, what steps do I need to take to get it back to before I rooted it? Completely factory before I installed anything.
Still getting nowhere.
I've even managed to change my CID to 11111111 from the Vodafone branded one using HEX editor. Still getting the same error's when I'm trying to install .ZIP and .EXE's when the bootloader is RELOCKED.
Could no one else shed some light on this for me please?
CID is now HTC__001 and still get the same error messages!
How hard can it be to remove a service providers software from a phone?
I would really appreciate someones help - I've tried pretty much all I can try!
Could I install an Android version lower than what I've got? I don't mind it not being JB as it's pretty much the same as ICS!

[Q] HTC ONE X ATT stuck!! help Please!!

I have recently tried to flash my htc one x att android version 4.1.1 to the latest cyanogenmod 10.1. After i flashed it, i rebooted my device and got stuck in the htc logo. So i tried to restart it, even tried to factory reset. My phone doesnt even have a rom on it, so i cant do anything. my bootloader is unlocked and i am S-ON. I have TWRP recovery installed though. I tried to flash multiple roms, but cmd just says cannot load "file name".img. I cant flash anything right now. Please help, thank you!!
What firmware and hboot versions are you on? And where are you downloading the ROMs?
Sent from my Evita
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Also, you mentioned command said "cannot load filename.img" which seems weird, ROMs are in a zip format. Exactly how are you trying to flash the ROM?
And, did you factory reset in bootloader? If you did you've corrupted your sd card/internal storage and you'll need to format it.
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timmaaa said:
What firmware and hboot versions are you on? And where are you downloading the ROMs?
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Also, you mentioned command said "cannot load filename.img" which seems weird, ROMs are in a zip format. Exactly how are you trying to flash the ROM?
And, did you factory reset in bootloader? If you did you've corrupted your sd card/internal storage and you'll need to format it.
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I am on 3.18. My hboot is 2.14. I downloaded the cyanogenmod from http ://get.cm/?device=m7att. I have to flash roms the manual way, by typing fastboot flash boot filename.img. I think i might have factory reset it iin bootloader once, how do i format it? and once i format it can you give me instructions on how to put a rom on my phone? I dont care what rom i use, i just want to be able to use my phone for now. Thanks
jeffcojake said:
I am on 3.18. My hboot is 2.14. I downloaded the cyanogenmod from http ://get.cm/?device=m7att. I have to flash roms the manual way, by typing fastboot flash boot filename.img. I think i might have factory reset it iin bootloader once, how do i format it? and once i format it can you give me instructions on how to put a rom on my phone? I dont care what rom i use, i just want to be able to use my phone for now. Thanks
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Ok, firstly it looks like you're downloading the ROM for the wrong device. M7 is not your phone, your phone is Evita. So that's your first mistake. Find Evita and download that.
To format your sd card, go into recovery, then select mount, connect your phone to the pc, and mount usb storage. Now using Windows you need to go to my computer or device manager, find the drive that popped up when you mounted, and format it to fat32 format.
Next, fastboot flash boot boot.img does not flash a ROM, it only flashes the boot.img. You need to flash the ROM through recovery. First extract the boot.img from the ROM on your pc and put it in your fastboot folder on your pc. Then copy the entire ROM zip to your phone. Now you can flash the ROM through recovery, then reboot to bootloader and flash the boot.img using fastboot.
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By the way, where are you getting your instruction information? Because it's pretty much all incorrect.
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I cannot find a download for a htc one x att evita rom for 3.18. I would very much appreciate if you could give me a link.I have just formattet the phone to fat32. I got my information from some random forum on a different website. THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR HELPING OUT THOUGH. Extra- If you could get me a link for a compatible cyanogenmod rom for my HTC that would be great, but like i said i just want to be able to use my phone for now.
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I cannot find a download for a htc one x att evita rom for 3.18. I would very much appreciate if you could give me a link.I have just formattet the phone to fat32. I got my information from some random forum on a different website. THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR HELPING OUT THOUGH
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Bookmark: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538
General is general information and discussion
Q&A Pretty self explanatory
Accessories, discuss phone accessories
Android development Sense roms
Original Android Development AOSP/CM based roms
You'll never need another link again. This is the only forum you'll ever need. Everything is here.
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I cannot find a download for a htc one x att evita rom for 3.18. I would very much appreciate if you could give me a link.I have just formattet the phone to fat32. I got my information from some random forum on a different website. THANK YOU SOOO MUCH FOR HELPING OUT THOUGH. Extra- If you could get me a link for a compatible cyanogenmod rom for my HTC that would be great, but like i said i just want to be able to use my phone for now.
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Dude u gotta read a lil more before u just jump in and start messing up your phone first download a ROM for evita. Then make a copy of the boot image of the ROM, and place this in the same folder that your fastboot is in. Then transfer the ROM file to your phone. In recovery wipe data and system, reboot to bootloader, Flash the boot image in fast boot. Then after u do this Reboot to recovery again and install ROM file and gapps. Wipe cache and ur done
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Bookmark: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1538
General is general information and discussion
Q&A Pretty self explanatory
Accessories, discuss phone accessories
Android development Sense roms
Original Android Development AOSP/CM based roms
You'll never need another link again. This is the only forum you'll ever need. Everything is here.
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Thanks, but i didn't find anything in the android development section about a rom for my HTC One X at&t evita 3.18.
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Thanks, but i didn't find anything in the android development section about a rom for my HTC One X at&t evita 3.18.
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they don't need to specify because you're in the evita section. ALL ROMS are for the evita -_- no hope...
I will keep looking, thanks
jeffcojake said:
Thanks, but i didn't find anything in the android development section about a rom for my HTC One X at&t evita 3.18.
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I will keep looking, thanks
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It really doesn't have to be for 3.18, pretty much any ROM that's in the the link Exad gave you will work, bcuz they're all for evita
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It really doesn't have to be for 3.18, pretty much any ROM that's in the the link Exad gave you will work, bcuz they're all for evita
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If its not for my system veresion then it wont be compatible, right? I just want to find a rom that is compatible with my phone in that forum. Can you recomend one for me? Thanks
jeffcojake said:
If its not for my system veresion then it wont be compatible, right? I just want to find a rom that is compatible with my phone in that forum. Can you recomend one for me? Thanks
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naw your phone will work with them, the version of the phone doesnt matter unless you had an older version. In this case if yu had an older version then yeah, some of the newer nighlies wouldnt work for you. But No worries dude ur on the newer version, as long as its the right rom for the phone Evita they will work. For now I recommend trying out the newest cyanogenmod nightly till you get a lil more comfortable with what ur doing. Or if you want a sense rom the sense 5 imagio rom is my personal favorite
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naw your phone will work with them, the version of the phone doesnt matter. No worries as long as its the right rom for the phone,Evita, then you're good. For now I recommend trying out the newest cyanogenmod nightly till you get a lil more comfortable with what ur doing. Or if you want a sense rom the sense 5 imagio rom is my personal favorite
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I cant find a download link for cyanogenmod for my phone. I can only find the m7 ones. Please find a link for my i will like it 1000000 times.
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I cant find a download link for cyanogenmod for my phone. I can only find the m7 ones. Please find a link for my i will like it 1000000 times.
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hey g I dont know if u doing this on purpose, but Exad gave u the link already.. go ahead and check it out everythings in there ... you'll be alrite homes
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hey g I dont know if u doing this on purpose, but Exad gave u the link already.. go ahead and check it out everythings in there ... you'll be alrite homes
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Will that cyanogenmod in there work with my phone? + there is like 1000000000 links in there, i dont know which one to download. that is why im asking for a link
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Will that cyanogenmod in there work with my phone?
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They will ALL work.. that is the evita thread. Everything in there is only for our phone and our phone only
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They will ALL work.. that is the evita thread. Everything in there is only for our phone and our phone only
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ok i will go try one out. jeseus christ it takes like 30 min to copy the zip file to the phone. Damn
jeffcojake said:
ok i will go try one out. jeseus christ it takes like 30 min to copy the zip file to the phone. Damn
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ya sometimes its slow. erasing my browser history and cache and restarting my computer helps speed it up sometimes.. Hey is this ur first time rooting?
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ya sometimes its slow. erasing my browser history and cache and restarting my computer helps speed it up sometimes.. Hey is this ur first time rooting?
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Yes, this is my first android phone. im downloading http://goo.im/devs/Cory/evita/cm10-1/cm-10.1-20130610-UNOFFICIAL-evita.zip. it says 2 hours left lol so im going to restart the computer and erase cache. And i hate this new user thing, i have to wait 5 minutes to post this.

SIM unlock didn't work, factory reset wiped everything, phone doesn't boot.

But wait, there's more.
I just exchanged an Xperia S for this HTC One S in excellent condition. It was already bootloader unloked, has TWRP only that it was sim locked. I tried the unlock.sh script (both from terminal emulator, and root explorer) then manually getting the UN_lock_code and subtracting the reversed 7 digits from the IMEI (with the added one), and even the automated app. The script kept running and never show the unlock code, and the one I got using this method wasn't accepted.
Then I thought I should to a factory reset and try again. So I reboot to bootloader, chose factory reset and now everything is wiped. No OS installed so I can't boot, TWRP won't mount USB storage so I can' flash any other rom.
Please help.
Is this a ville or the ville C2?
From your hbot, it seems like C2
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Is this a ville or the ville C2?
From your hbot, it seems like C2
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It is a C2, yes. How does that help me?
edit: Well, some good news is that I managed to be able to mount USB storage from TWRP (a simple FORMAT in windows seems to have fixed it). Any particular rom I should flash before attempting to sim unlock again?
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zgomot said:
It is a C2, yes. How does that help me?
edit: Well, some good news is that I managed to be able to mount USB storage from TWRP (a simple FORMAT in windows seems to have fixed it). Any particular rom I should flash before attempting to sim unlock again?
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Knowing that it is C2 will prevent you from flashing a ROM that isn't compatible with your phone. From experience, I'd go with PAC Rom. It has a ton of features, and should allow you to do anything you want. As far as SIM unlocking, shouldn't you be S-Off first?
And you formatted the phone via Windows? I've never heard of such a thing, never mind it actually fixing a problem.
But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And your issue seems to be resolved for the most part. Regarding booting, that is.
42freelancer said:
Knowing that it is C2 will prevent you from flashing a ROM that isn't compatible with your phone. From experience, I'd go with PAC Rom. It has a ton of features, and should allow you to do anything you want.
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How about ViperSC2? Will that do?
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As far as SIM unlocking, shouldn't you be S-Off first?
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I'm not sure, tbh, do I? But if I do, that's what I'll do first, however, I don't recall reading anywhere S-OFF being a prerequisite to sim unlocking.
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And you formatted the phone via Windows? I've never heard of such a thing, never mind it actually fixing a problem.
But if it ain't broke, don't fix it. And your issue seems to be resolved for the most part. Regarding booting, that is.
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Well yeah... oddly enough... I formatted the phone's internal storage via windows and then I was able to mount it as USB storage from recovery.
further edit: I managed to flash a rom and boot the phone.
For the sake of trying everything, I would s-off first. The easiest way is from stock right after running an RUU, without a custom recovery, No SU or busybox, and a locked bootloader. Moonshine worked for me after trying all the other methods.
I personally love the Viper ROMS. I only wish they would have kept updating the ones for the ONE S and slammed kitkat into it. It would be my daily driver. I use a ville with dirty unicorn 4.4. It's my daily driver.
Awesome that you got it mounted. Maybe that forced the drivers to reinstall properly. Did you check for fastboot and ADB functionality and visibility from the computer? You'll need both of those before attempting s-off.
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zgomot said:
How about ViperSC2? Will that do?
I'm not sure, tbh, do I? But if I do, that's what I'll do first, however, I don't recall reading anywhere S-OFF being a prerequisite to sim unlocking.
Well yeah... oddly enough... I formatted the phone's internal storage via windows and then I was able to mount it as USB storage from recovery.
further edit: I managed to flash a rom and boot the phone.
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Not sure if you saw my last post before this one, I forgot to reply with your quote.
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For the sake of trying everything, I would s-off first. The easiest way is from stock right after running an RUU, without a custom recovery, No SU or busybox, and a locked bootloader. Moonshine worked for me after trying all the other methods.
I personally love the Viper ROMS. I only wish they would have kept updating the ones for the ONE S and slammed kitkat into it. It would be my daily driver. I use a ville with dirty unicorn 4.4. It's my daily driver.
Awesome that you got it mounted. Maybe that forced the drivers to reinstall properly. Did you check for fastboot and ADB functionality and visibility from the computer? You'll need both of those before attempting s-off.
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Not sure if you saw my last post before this one, I forgot to reply with your quote.
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adb devices lists the phone, however fastboot devices does not... it keeps waiting for device. I tried this fix for windows 8.1 but I can't get it to take the modded drivers. It says it finds them but can't install because the system supposedly cannot find the file.
That seems to be an issue with Windows 8.1. It also seems to be the only OS affecting fastboot. There is a file I used to get all of my drivers working properly, with ADB and fastboot. Fastboot is required with any S-Off attempt. I'll go scope out the file and return here.
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zgomot said:
adb devices lists the phone, however fastboot devices does not... it keeps waiting for device. I tried this fix for windows 8.1 but I can't get it to take the modded drivers. It says it finds them but can't install because the system supposedly cannot find the file.
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Try this! This should work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
This is what I used last night to reinstall my drivers with working ADB and Fastboot. It also comes with a picture guide on how to fix the device detection. It's fast, easy, lightweight, and best of all, it works!
Your help is really appreciated.
I already tried this fix as well but I get the same error message. Damn system can't seem to find the file when I am pointing it to it...
I need to get some sleep now, will try more tomorrow.
Tried that and I still can't get fastboot devices to enumerate my device. Pfffft.
zgomot said:
Your help is really appreciated.
I already tried this fix as well but I get the same error message. Damn system can't seem to find the file when I am pointing it to it...
I need to get some sleep now, will try more tomorrow.
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No sweat. I've got nothing going on later, so I'll do some research for ya! Night
OK, I managed to get fastboot working, but not S-OFF. Moonshine doesn't work, it keeps saying something needs to be fixed and that I need to read, haha funny. Thing is I followed the exact procedure and met all the prerequisites except for being on a stock ROM.
Currently I am running ViperS C2 5.1.0 baseband 16.22.30.03U_16.11.20.24_M, build number 3.19.401.101. I tried a couple RUUs but none worked. Which am I to use? What next?
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OK, I managed to get fastboot working, but not S-OFF. Moonshine doesn't work, it keeps saying something needs to be fixed and that I need to read, haha funny. Thing is I followed the exact procedure and met all the prerequisites except for being on a stock ROM.
Currently I am running ViperS C2 5.1.0 baseband 16.22.30.03U_16.11.20.24_M, build number 3.19.401.101. I tried a couple RUUs but none worked. Which am I to use? What next?
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What is your carrier and CID? MAybe I have a RUU downloaded. I tend to grab them all. 2tb space, plus tons of cloud storage.
[EDIT] I also posted a thread on how to s-off, if that helps. I'll still look for the appropriate RUU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2652601
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What is your carrier and CID? MAybe I have a RUU downloaded. I tend to grab them all. 2tb space, plus tons of cloud storage.
[EDIT] I also posted a thread on how to s-off, if that helps. I'll still look for the appropriate RUU.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2652601
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CID: HTC__032 And when you ask about my carrier do you mean the one I want to use? It's Vodafone Romania and so far I'm sure the phone works with Orange Romania. Other networks I haven't tried.
zgomot said:
CID: HTC__032 And when you ask about my carrier do you mean the one I want to use? It's Vodafone Romania and so far I'm sure the phone works with Orange Romania. Other networks I haven't tried.
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I found this repository with some RUU. The last one is the most recent and the closest to your radio version. Reverting flashing this RUU should update your radio to match it. Once stock, you should have the ability to s-off and will have a new kernel. Have you tried flashing the kernel through fastboot?
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I found this repository with some RUU. The last one is the most recent and the closest to your radio version. Reverting flashing this RUU should update your radio to match it. Once stock, you should have the ability to s-off and will have a new kernel. Have you tried flashing the kernel through fastboot?
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If you mean this one then I tried that and eventually it gives error 131 CUSTOMER ID ERROR and saying it cannot update my device.
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If you mean this one then I tried that and eventually it gives error 131 CUSTOMER ID ERROR and saying it cannot update my device.
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Was your bootloader UNLOCKED when you tried that update? Because RUU require that the bootloader be LOCKED before they have the ability to flash.
fastboot oem lock
if you didn't know.
Other than that, I'm at a loss. Until you find the appropriate RUU i guess
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Was your bootloader UNLOCKED when you tried that update? Because RUU require that the bootloader be LOCKED before they have the ability to flash.
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if you didn't know.
Other than that, I'm at a loss. Until you find the appropriate RUU i guess
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Nope. Bootloader is Relocked.
Now I'm facing another problem. I flashed TWRP via WinDroid HTC ONE S Toolkit and now, when I chose recovery from HBOOT, I get a red triangle with an exclamation mark.
edit: the red triangle was due to flashing TWRP on a locked bootloader. What I plan to do do now is flash this stock rom and try getting S-OFF and eventually sim unlock from there.
*fingers crossed*
further edit: apparently my cid is not supported by this rom.
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Nope. Bootloader is Relocked.
Now I'm facing another problem. I flashed TWRP via WinDroid HTC ONE S Toolkit and now, when I chose recovery from HBOOT, I get a red triangle with an exclamation mark.
edit: the red triangle was due to flashing TWRP on a locked bootloader. What I plan to do do now is flash this stock rom and try getting S-OFF and eventually sim unlock from there.
*fingers crossed*
further edit: apparently my cid is not supported by this rom.
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You will have to SuperCID then. That requires S-Off most of the time. Back to stock it seems. The RUU hunt continues. I've been looking for you, just to see if I stumble upon it.
[EDIT] http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2644607 TRY THE FIRST RUU HERE! This one is the same CID as your carrier. it may upgrade your radio and hboot.
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You will have to SuperCID then. That requires S-Off most of the time. Back to stock it seems. The RUU hunt continues. I've been looking for you, just to see if I stumble upon it.
[EDIT] TRY THE FIRST RUU HERE! This one is the same CID as your carrier. it may upgrade your radio and hboot.
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PROGRESS!
I managed to get S-OFF. Do I try sim-unlocking now, or is there anything else I have to do first?

[Q] AT&T HTC One X ROM & Kernel Problem

Hi guys,
I'm newbie about android and please do not be angry to me for this question. I was read lots of topics from xda and another forums but I can't find anything.
I have AT&T HTC One X and i was happy with my phone. Maybe one year ago I rooted my phone and install ATT Stock Root - 3.18.502.6 - JB 4.1.1.zip. So, i followed instructions from xda's web site and everything was fine.
Last two weeks my phone starts to restarts it self. So, I decide to install everything again and open my phone in recovery mode with TWRP and wipe all data. (I don't have any backup of my original data)
I have TRWP's 2.7.1.0 version and I tried to install ATT Stock Root - 3.18.502.6 - JB 4.1.1.zip because I install it one year ago and it works fine. It installs fine but when I press restart my phone stuck at Quietly Brilliant screen and after 2 minutes my phone restarts it self.
Also I can't s-off my phone. I have unlock code bin and I applied it to my phone but something was wrong.
So please can any one help me please. I don't know why my phone acts like that.
Thanks in advance.
Ok so I know your a newbie but do you know your firmware is way out of date? We now have firmware for at&t that is at least 4 realises older than the current. I would say upgrade to a new ROM and firmware. If you don't wish to upgrade I have to ask what kernel you are using?
What he said. Also, did you flash the boot.img from the rom zip via fastboot? As you are s-on, you must perform that additional step.
I suggest he reads timaaas thread. Sounds to me like he should run a ruu to which he can still obtain s off.
Well thanks for suggestions, but I don't know what is the sequence for installing new firmware, rom and kernel. Could you guys please explain the it.
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I suggest he reads timaaas thread. Sounds to me like he should run a ruu to which he can still obtain s off.
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No, no, no! He can't run an RUU while s-on because it'll brick his phone. I know you mean well but you need to increase your own knowledge before you can start giving advice here, I've seen at least a few times where you've given advice that would result in a brick. I'm sure you don't want that on your conscience.
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ahrar said:
Well thanks for suggestions, but I don't know what is the sequence for installing new firmware, rom and kernel. Could you guys please explain the it.
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You more than likely only needed to flash the boot.img from the ROM zip by fastboot. Flash the ROM, then flash the boot.img, and your phone should boot up. Once you're all booted you need to get s-off. Look in my guide thread in my signature for instructions.
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No, no, no! He can't run an RUU while s-on because it'll brick his phone. I know you mean well but you need to increase your own knowledge before you can start giving advice here, I've seen at least a few times where you've given advice that would result in a brick. I'm sure you don't want that on your conscience.
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You more than likely only needed to flash the boot.img from the ROM zip by fastboot. Flash the ROM, then flash the boot.img, and your phone should boot up. Once you're all booted you need to get s-off. Look in my guide thread in my signature for instructions.
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No no. I didn't mean for him to run ruu. I suggested he read your thread to see what requisite is needed to do so. I wasn't suggestioning to ruu..omg no. Lol
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No no. I didn't mean for him to run ruu. I suggested he read your thread to see what requisite is needed to do so. I wasn't suggestioning to ruu..omg no. Lol
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But that's exactly what you said:
Sounds to me like he should run a ruu...
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Yes. Run a ruu if he meets the requirementz
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Yes. Run a ruu if he meets the requirementz
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But he doesn't, and that's the point. Why say that when it's clear that he doesn't meet the requirements? What if he took your advice and ran the RUU? Would you have bought him a nice new phone? Am I making sense here?
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