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Hi All,
Been doing reading of the various forums and about to delve into rooting and rom flashing from my transformer. Currently i am running stock 3.1
From what i have been able to tell there are two methods to root. CWM and NVFlash.
I haven't been able to determine what the major differences between them are.
my understanding is that CWM makes it easier to flash multiple roms with out losing data.
whereas if you use nvflash all the data on the device is wiped.
can anyone confirm/correct me?
CWM requires the use of a SD card, whereas NVflash does not
can anyone confirm/correct me?
I have seen that a ROM=OS+Kernel, so if you wanted a different kernel you have to do it after the ROM is installed.
Since I am on 3.1 my choices are:
A. use CWM. I would need to downgrade to 3.0 then i can install CWM and the normal root process
B. Flash with NVFlash directly?
can anyone confirm/correct me?
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
CWM isn't a rooting method. It's a way to flash roms, kernels, make backups etc.
The root methods are the original cmd line method with the flashing blobs etc. and the nvflash rooting method.
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Also since there is no cmd line way of rooting the original 3.1 rom you have two options.
1. Downgrade back to the original 3.0 rom and root using cmd line method. Not that hard.
2. Nvflash, which is straight up easy. DOWNLOAD a tar file with some images, get into nvflash mode and run a script to apply a rooted rom and it installs CWM for you.
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So it definitely appears that I had a mis-understanding of CWM.
CWM !=Rooting.
Its the CLI rooting that after that allowed me to install CWM.
So I would DL NVFlash from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
Download my rom of choice, for an example lets say Prime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380 (the NVFlash version)
Hookup my tablet via USB and run the program and follow the necessary steps (AXP mode and what not). No SD Card is required.
Then I have CWM installed and my rom of choice installed.
My next question would be then what? My understanding would be now that i am rooted and CWM is installed i can switch Rom's much easier now using that tool?
SangreSlayer said:
So it definitely appears that I had a mis-understanding of CWM.
CWM !=Rooting.
Its the CLI rooting that after that allowed me to install CWM.
So I would DL NVFlash from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
Download my rom of choice, for an example lets say Prime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380 (the NVFlash version)
Hookup my tablet via USB and run the program and follow the necessary steps (AXP mode and what not). No SD Card is required.
Then I have CWM installed and my rom of choice installed.
My next question would be then what? My understanding would be now that i am rooted and CWM is installed i can switch Rom's much easier now using that tool?
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everything is correct.
As for as then what....wait for the newest roms and flash that. try some kernels, roms and always make backups.
When you say make backups are you talking about making them with applications like titanium backup?
SangreSlayer said:
When you say make backups are you talking about making them with applications like titanium backup?
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no CWM backups up your entire installed rom(system,data, etc). Basically a carbon copy of the rom your using.
He's talking about nandroid backups.
david279 said:
no CWM backups up your entire installed rom(system,data, etc). Basically a carbon copy of the rom your using.
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these are called nandroid backups in CWM world...
Thanks everyone for your help. About to give the nvflash a go right now
SangreSlayer said:
Thanks everyone for your help. About to give the nvflash a go right now
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Let us know how it went.
I am waiting for someone tomakeit real easy to root,like with an app or something like that.
Have rooted my galaxyS which was real easy.
Cheers.
I got a newbie question on android rooting/custom roms, currently mine is stock unrooted. Going through the rooting process would all of the current apps and everything be wiped? next if installing a custom rom is there a method to keep all of your applications without having to reinstall/lose of data?
Taxnl said:
Let us know how it went.
I am waiting for someone tomakeit real easy to root,like with an app or something like that.
Have rooted my galaxyS which was real easy.
Cheers.
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What are you taking about? It doesn't get any easier then this. Try making a gold card and come tell me how hard this really is. Psssh make it easy
nvflash make it easy, but I enjoy flashing via CWM. Not sure why?
While we wait for the poster's update on how it went, I would appreciate it if someone would help me with two very simple rooting questions:
1) Is it possible to root my Transformer without flashing a new ROM? IE, just override the security to allow the user to have root access and use root required apps.
2) Is it true that the Transformer is still running the android cell standby service, eating up most of the battery life while in standby mode? Can this be removed with root access?
Many thanks
Sorry for the delayed response.
Flashed it and it was real easy as I suspected.
It updated the rom and rooted it and everything.
There are a couple of issues (Browser has crashed 3 times, whenever i press the home button it is putting me on the first screen instead of the middle one and the SOD) but I believe it has more to do with my ROM (Prime 1.5) than the actual flashing process.
Another question I have has to do with CWM, do i need a SD card to use that method to flash a new rom?
Thanks!
This thread convinced me to flash. Didn't know I could like my tf that much more.
I just got a TF but it has a s/n of B80 so I know I can't root for the time being. I have a Moto Backflip and a Samsung Captivate so I feel I'm pretty experienced when it comes to modifying Android devices. I've yet to run into a root issue like this for my TF. So my core question can I still flash a rom without root? I tried searching for this but I'm not having any luck. If you have any info or links to other threads that would be awesome. Thanks!
No you cannot. To flash a ROM you need CWM recovery and to get CWM you need root.
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Okay, I've just rooted my S3. First time ever rooting an android phone, so I was thrilled when Odin said "Passed" and I didn't brick it.
Now what? I've installed Titianium (Free) to backup the one app that I wanted fixed LV Sync. I only did this because everytime I rebooted my device it would delete the account that I created with LV Sync. Now after backing up, uninstalling with Titanium and then restoring, it no longer does that. Perfect.
Now what?? When I jailbroker my first iPhone I discovered after the fact that I couldn't go back because I didn't save my blobs. With everything I read about rooting, nothing said to backup first, so I decided I just did it.
Is there something that I should back up now? Is there something that I should do before anything else?
Would appreciate any guidance on this please.
jim.thornton said:
Okay, I've just rooted my S3. First time ever rooting an android phone, so I was thrilled when Odin said "Passed" and I didn't brick it.
Now what? I've installed Titianium (Free) to backup the one app that I wanted fixed LV Sync. I only did this because everytime I rebooted my device it would delete the account that I created with LV Sync. Now after backing up, uninstalling with Titanium and then restoring, it no longer does that. Perfect.
Now what?? When I jailbroker my first iPhone I discovered after the fact that I couldn't go back because I didn't save my blobs. With everything I read about rooting, nothing said to backup first, so I decided I just did it.
Is there something that I should back up now? Is there something that I should do before anything else?
Would appreciate any guidance on this please.
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Will first you need to install cwm you can probably find that where you learned how to root then you can make a android backup which backups up your whole phone even the operating system then you can install a custom ROM I recommend the latest CyanogenMod 10.1 nightly there very stable
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bbrad said:
Will first you need to install cwm you can probably find that where you learned how to root then you can make a android backup which backups up your whole phone even the operating system then you can install a custom ROM I recommend the latest CyanogenMod 10.1 nightly there very stable
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At this time I don't really want to install a custom ROM. I use the phone for work and I don't really want to go through the process of setting everything up again.
Also, the method that I used for rooting it was Chainfire's method which didn't use ClockworkMod. There was a comment about it interfering with something (can't remember what though).
Is there any other way to make a backup of the phone exactly as-is other than CWM?
jim.thornton said:
At this time I don't really want to install a custom ROM. I use the phone for work and I don't really want to go through the process of setting everything up again.
Also, the method that I used for rooting it was Chainfire's method which didn't use ClockworkMod. There was a comment about it interfering with something (can't remember what though).
Is there any other way to make a backup of the phone exactly as-is other than CWM?
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Not really 90% of the stuff requires cwm you can use a app like my backup pro which bakes up all your apps and contacts to your SD. Or you can just go ahead and make the jump to a custom ROM which then you can schedule regular full system backups and exsprience tons of performance increase and you learn a lot about android but if you don't want to make the jump I recommend mubackuppro
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bbrad said:
Not really 90% of the stuff requires cwm you can use a app like my backup pro which bakes up all your apps and contacts to your SD. Or you can just go ahead and make the jump to a custom ROM which then you can schedule regular full system backups and exsprience tons of performance increase and you learn a lot about android but if you don't want to make the jump I recommend mubackuppro
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Well, as mentioned, the guide that I used did not show CWM. Is there a guide that I can use that will work? Will CWM work on all versions of the S3? I have the Canadian version SGH-I747M. I just want to be careful not to brick it.
Also... If I use CWM, will that allow me to make a backup ROM? Meaning, that if I install a custom ROM and don't like it for any reason or run into problems that I can put my phone back exactly as it is now?
CM allows you to do a compete backup of your ROM. I don't think that includes media FYI
Google how to install Cwm on your S3 Version which you should initially flash to device through Odin.
I believe using ROM MANAGER you can locate download and flash your recovery.
International S III 16GB / CM10.1 / Gokhan's SK
Bricking
I wouldn't worry too much about bricking your phone. most of the time when people say they bricked their phone all they need to do is restore it using recovery mode/a computer.
To actually brick your device it needs to stop turning on and stop responding to it being plugged into the computer which is quite unlikely to happen.
If your phone turns on but just doesn't boot into a ROM that is not bricked!
I would just throw in that I have used both CWM ("Clockwork Mod") and TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project) and I like TWRP better. It's not a pain to change if you decide to, but doing backups can take a while. You can get TWRP with the Goomanager app in the Play Store. If I were you, I'd recommend researching both a bit and then deciding for yourself.
Brick itttt!!!!!!!
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Well now roms
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If you gamers, cusrom with gamming tweaks recommended. But first, you must backup your rom if you don't like the cusrom gamming mode
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Don't worry, within a few weeks you'll probably unlock the bootloader and flash custom roms.
So first step would be to install cwm. Even if you are not gonna unlock bootloader, it will help you to FULLY backup, restore your phone and install modules.
Just for safety keep an ftf file of your stock version with you (on pc).
And do a backup before flashing any custom roms.
Just dig around a lot before doing anything and there won't be any chance of bricking it.
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jim.thornton said:
Well, as mentioned, the guide that I used did not show CWM. Is there a guide that I can use that will work? Will CWM work on all versions of the S3? I have the Canadian version SGH-I747M. I just want to be careful not to brick it.
Also... If I use CWM, will that allow me to make a backup ROM? Meaning, that if I install a custom ROM and don't like it for any reason or run into problems that I can put my phone back exactly as it is now?
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you can use rom manager or rom toolbox (available in the play store) to flash cwm. then use CWM to make a nandroid back of your rom. then try new roms if you don't like them you can unse recovery to reflash your stock rom. after you flash a custom rom play store shoud reinstall you apps for you and your google account will sync your contacts so setting up your phone after a fresh install is not very hard or time consuming
You shouldn't have to worry about setting up your phone all over after flashing a new ROM if you have titanium backup. Just get on Google play and re download titanium, run it and reboot. Your apps and even how you at up your home pages are back to normal, but you'd have the benefits of the new ROM. I love Synergy ROM. there are a lot of good ones.
bbrad said:
Not really 90% of the stuff requires cwm you can use a app like my backup pro which bakes up all your apps and contacts to your SD. Or you can just go ahead and make the jump to a custom ROM which then you can schedule regular full system backups and exsprience tons of performance increase and you learn a lot about android but if you don't want to make the jump I recommend mubackuppro
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I also use my backup pro. It's simple and works well for me.
I flash a lot of roms to check them out and my backup pro restores all my apps, contacts, txt messages every time without issue. It will even restore your shortcuts on your home screen if you'd like.
I also use TWRP. like it a lot.
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As said previously, install cwm(through romantic manager) or twrp (through goo manager) (I personally prefer twrp) and make a full nandroid backup.
This backup will be your goto stock image in case you flash something else.
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Thanks to Everyone! Your help has really made the process easy and worry free. I've completed the rooting, installed goomanager and installed TWRP and run a full backup. I'm even starting to get the itch to look at some ROMs... I guess you were right mnishamk.
I have a few questions and was hoping for some clarification please:
1. What is nandroid? I installed the TWRP and clicked "BACKUP". Is that a nandroid backup?
2. Is there a resource that I can go to that will list all of the ROMS that are available and the differences? I'm not really into tweaking a lot of things, but love smooth running/looking apps and efficiency.
3. My mom has a Galaxy Nexus (not sure which version/baseband -- does it matter). I would like to root her device.
4. My Dad has a Toshiba AT100 tablet. I would also like to do that.
I'm not sure where to find the guides for each of the devices.
jim.thornton said:
Thanks to Everyone! Your help has really made the process easy and worry free. I've completed the rooting, installed goomanager and installed TWRP and run a full backup. I'm even starting to get the itch to look at some ROMs... I guess you were right mnishamk.
I have a few questions and was hoping for some clarification please:
1. What is nandroid? I installed the TWRP and clicked "BACKUP". Is that a nandroid backup?
2. Is there a resource that I can go to that will list all of the ROMS that are available and the differences? I'm not really into tweaking a lot of things, but love smooth running/looking apps and efficiency.
3. My mom has a Galaxy Nexus (not sure which version/baseband -- does it matter). I would like to root her device.
4. My Dad has a Toshiba AT100 tablet. I would also like to do that.
I'm not sure where to find the guides for each of the devices.
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1. Yes that's nandroid
2.Not really but I suggest cm10 its smooth stable and efficient
3.You can look at the thread for the galaxy nexus and there's probably a rooting guide stickied
4 Look at 3
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I might suggest not rooting your mom's device/dad's tablet. I have helped my mom set up her tablet, but I'm not going to root it unless there's a really good reason where root is absolutely the only solution to what needs to be done.
The problem is, if she doesn't understand what rooting is and what's going on, she can mess up the phone much more than get any advantage. It's not really necessary unless you have a specific goal. I rooted my tablet because I wanted to flash custom ROMs because ASUS no longer supports this tablet. I rooted my phone because I wanted to install Google Wallet. I helped my friend root her phone so she could try out custom ROMs - she is computer literate unlike my mom and understands the risks involved.
Maybe your mom is much more into computers than mine is, but I wouldn't root a device for someone who doesn't understand it and doesn't have a reason to. While a custom recovery is useful for people who want to mess with their phones, it's not something a regular user really needs to the point that the benefits outweigh the risks.
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Look for a rom that incorporates the CM/AOKP theme chooser. So many really nice looking themes. Alloy ui is a favorite of mine
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Hi guys
I can't root this phone whatever I try doesn't work. Based on mt6735 5.1 lollipop. please help someone must have rooted it.
Tried framaroot,kingo and a few others. Mtkdroidtools is not compatible with new mtk SOC
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Someone must have this phone it looks identical to Alcatel pixi 3 4.5
Can anyone point me to the stock Rom I have searched everywhere.
Can't root, can't backup, can't create scatter. Can't find cwm and can't port one as I can't get my recovery.
Also tried fastboot oem unlock doesn't work and even riskier tried flashing cwm from pixi 3 (4.5) can't do that either .
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
So any ideas. Anyone
Someone must have this phone now maybe for Christmas and looking to root.
Think I may have searched the entire internet
Please help
Alrighty man, first make sure that it has a unlocked bootloader. If it does, then try to use a root app (.exe recommended, but .apks may work) with USB debugging enabled (go to dev setting and enable it). If it isn't, then install your phone's drivers and look for solutions to unlock the bootloader.
Thanks for replying. I think bootloader is locked and I cannot find a way to unlock it. I have never had a android I couldn't root (till now)
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Some info here:
reddit.com/r/androidroot/comments/3uavez/please_help_rooting_vodafone_smart_speed_6_vf795/
Yes I saw that yesterday sadly it doesn't work. Pmt for ROM has changed and must be redownloaded
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I now have let this phone go and now have a moto e. Unlocked bootloader and rooted within 10 minutes.
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've been searching for a solution for 2 weeks and i found one one click root app which rooted my phone: KingRoot v4.8.0.0
I've been using it for while and yesterday i've decided to give to it one las chance and surprise! After 3 attempts KingRoot found a voulnerability and rooted my phone!
Now i'm searching one custom recovery but twrp or cwm doesn't have any support for this device and i don't wanna risk my phone into a bootloader. If someone finds thos info usefull i'm glad to hear that. But if someone can help me with xposed i will be happier.
Thanks lajaja123!!!
Worked after 4-5 attempts with Kingroot v4.8.0 build 20160203.
Everything Ok!
mac_d4di said:
Can anyone point me to the stock Rom I have searched everywhere.
Can't root, can't backup, can't create scatter. Can't find cwm and can't port one as I can't get my recovery.
Also tried fastboot oem unlock doesn't work and even riskier tried flashing cwm from pixi 3 (4.5) can't do that either .
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
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Hi
Did you ever find that ROM?
I have been looking for what feels like forever and would be grateful if you could help me
geekulous said:
Hi
Did you ever find that ROM?
I have been looking for what feels like forever and would be grateful if you could help me
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Stock Rom download and flash tools:
https://firmwarefile.com/vodafone-smart-speed-6-vf-795
I have a lot of computer experience but just enough Android knowledge to cook my tablet. It seems to me before I go messing with this tablet I should have a backup plan.
From my reading I can make a full rom image using TWRP.
My question, if I follow directions for flashing TWRP on my non-rooted android should it work? Without messing up my tab? I realize there is always a certain risk involved. I'm just not sure TWRP will install on a non-rooted device.
Also, after installed will TWRP allow me to create the rom image that I could reflash and restore my tab if/when I mess it up?
I intend to root but don't want to try until I have a rom image. The tablet is currently running 6.01 android.
Sorry for posting a simple question but there is so much information out there that I find myself a little confused. I really want to minimize my risk as much as possible.
Thanks in advance
fonestuff said:
I have a lot of computer experience but just enough Android knowledge to cook my tablet. It seems to me before I go messing with this tablet I should have a backup plan.
From my reading I can make a full rom image using TWRP.
My question, if I follow directions for flashing TWRP on my non-rooted android should it work? Without messing up my tab? I realize there is always a certain risk involved. I'm just not sure TWRP will install on a non-rooted device.
Also, after installed will TWRP allow me to create the rom image that I could reflash and restore my tab if/when I mess it up?
I intend to root but don't want to try until I have a rom image. The tablet is currently running 6.01 android.
Sorry for posting a simple question but there is so much information out there that I find myself a little confused. I really want to minimize my risk as much as possible.
Thanks in advance
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You could flash TWRP with Odin without root
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