Hi All,
Been doing reading of the various forums and about to delve into rooting and rom flashing from my transformer. Currently i am running stock 3.1
From what i have been able to tell there are two methods to root. CWM and NVFlash.
I haven't been able to determine what the major differences between them are.
my understanding is that CWM makes it easier to flash multiple roms with out losing data.
whereas if you use nvflash all the data on the device is wiped.
can anyone confirm/correct me?
CWM requires the use of a SD card, whereas NVflash does not
can anyone confirm/correct me?
I have seen that a ROM=OS+Kernel, so if you wanted a different kernel you have to do it after the ROM is installed.
Since I am on 3.1 my choices are:
A. use CWM. I would need to downgrade to 3.0 then i can install CWM and the normal root process
B. Flash with NVFlash directly?
can anyone confirm/correct me?
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
CWM isn't a rooting method. It's a way to flash roms, kernels, make backups etc.
The root methods are the original cmd line method with the flashing blobs etc. and the nvflash rooting method.
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Also since there is no cmd line way of rooting the original 3.1 rom you have two options.
1. Downgrade back to the original 3.0 rom and root using cmd line method. Not that hard.
2. Nvflash, which is straight up easy. DOWNLOAD a tar file with some images, get into nvflash mode and run a script to apply a rooted rom and it installs CWM for you.
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So it definitely appears that I had a mis-understanding of CWM.
CWM !=Rooting.
Its the CLI rooting that after that allowed me to install CWM.
So I would DL NVFlash from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
Download my rom of choice, for an example lets say Prime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380 (the NVFlash version)
Hookup my tablet via USB and run the program and follow the necessary steps (AXP mode and what not). No SD Card is required.
Then I have CWM installed and my rom of choice installed.
My next question would be then what? My understanding would be now that i am rooted and CWM is installed i can switch Rom's much easier now using that tool?
SangreSlayer said:
So it definitely appears that I had a mis-understanding of CWM.
CWM !=Rooting.
Its the CLI rooting that after that allowed me to install CWM.
So I would DL NVFlash from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1123429
Download my rom of choice, for an example lets say Prime.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380 (the NVFlash version)
Hookup my tablet via USB and run the program and follow the necessary steps (AXP mode and what not). No SD Card is required.
Then I have CWM installed and my rom of choice installed.
My next question would be then what? My understanding would be now that i am rooted and CWM is installed i can switch Rom's much easier now using that tool?
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everything is correct.
As for as then what....wait for the newest roms and flash that. try some kernels, roms and always make backups.
When you say make backups are you talking about making them with applications like titanium backup?
SangreSlayer said:
When you say make backups are you talking about making them with applications like titanium backup?
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no CWM backups up your entire installed rom(system,data, etc). Basically a carbon copy of the rom your using.
He's talking about nandroid backups.
david279 said:
no CWM backups up your entire installed rom(system,data, etc). Basically a carbon copy of the rom your using.
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these are called nandroid backups in CWM world...
Thanks everyone for your help. About to give the nvflash a go right now
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Thanks everyone for your help. About to give the nvflash a go right now
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Let us know how it went.
I am waiting for someone tomakeit real easy to root,like with an app or something like that.
Have rooted my galaxyS which was real easy.
Cheers.
I got a newbie question on android rooting/custom roms, currently mine is stock unrooted. Going through the rooting process would all of the current apps and everything be wiped? next if installing a custom rom is there a method to keep all of your applications without having to reinstall/lose of data?
Taxnl said:
Let us know how it went.
I am waiting for someone tomakeit real easy to root,like with an app or something like that.
Have rooted my galaxyS which was real easy.
Cheers.
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What are you taking about? It doesn't get any easier then this. Try making a gold card and come tell me how hard this really is. Psssh make it easy
nvflash make it easy, but I enjoy flashing via CWM. Not sure why?
While we wait for the poster's update on how it went, I would appreciate it if someone would help me with two very simple rooting questions:
1) Is it possible to root my Transformer without flashing a new ROM? IE, just override the security to allow the user to have root access and use root required apps.
2) Is it true that the Transformer is still running the android cell standby service, eating up most of the battery life while in standby mode? Can this be removed with root access?
Many thanks
Sorry for the delayed response.
Flashed it and it was real easy as I suspected.
It updated the rom and rooted it and everything.
There are a couple of issues (Browser has crashed 3 times, whenever i press the home button it is putting me on the first screen instead of the middle one and the SOD) but I believe it has more to do with my ROM (Prime 1.5) than the actual flashing process.
Another question I have has to do with CWM, do i need a SD card to use that method to flash a new rom?
Thanks!
This thread convinced me to flash. Didn't know I could like my tf that much more.
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Just rooted my captivate which was recently upgraded to Froyo through the official Att release. I'm an exteme rookie when it comes to all this, so I'm looking for some help. I want to install a new rom/kernel. Done some research and I'm thinking of trying Cog4. As I said, I'm rooted, I have titanium backup and rom manager. I'm using one click lag fix, which from my research, everyone says is useless, and that voodoo is the way to go. So the question is, where can I get step by step instructions on the easiest way to load the new rom. Can anyone suggest a better rom? What ever your answer is, remember to dumb it down. I'm a chef not a computer guy. Much thanks for the help. I'm loving learning about all this.
Start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Make sure you disable lagfix before you flash.
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wonner said:
Start reading here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Make sure you disable lagfix before you flash.
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Disabling oclf also means installing ext2 tools (just got good measure).
Good luck!
I did my first rom flash last week and chose Firefly due to reliability and smoothness. I read all of the threads about each of the roms for several months and read how people liked them plus features each offered. It will really come down to what you want/need in a rom. Besides using xda, I googled flashing roms for captivate and found many videos, etc. that helped guide me along the way. I watched countless hours to make sure I understood not only one way but many to install a rom. Just remember, save your data before you do anything else. Use titanium backup. It is great. Don't assume everything will go okay.
If you are running 2.2 Froyo stock you probably will have to understand how 3E works. If you don't know what this is, search for it on these forums! You have to change this setting before flashing a rom. Good luck!
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Disabling oclf also means installing ext2 tools (just got good measure).
Good luck!
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I meant to say UNINSTALLING, not install ext2 tools. Sorry for goof.
froyo has 3e recovery.... ugh... again with this today... good thing i bookmarked it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909213
you researched OCLF and other stuff correctly so ill help you.
from stock
root / ( & allow non-market apps via oneClickRoot 1.8 if you need to sideload tibu or rootexplorer.)
fix 3e recovery (root explorer method best)
no OCLF.
tibu backup user apps and green system files (green ones ok between different roms)
copy your new rom.zip to sdcard root renamed UPDATE.zip
boot into stock recovery > reinstall package!
tibu restore all
done!
your new rom will have a kernel with CWM built in. no need for rom manager or the CWM update.zip just to flash the rom. rom zips now do a wipe as well.
If the next thread I open ends up being about 3e recovery I'm going to boycott both q&a and general... TRusselo you with me?
I used a different method to fix 3E recovery, did not know about the root explorer method but can't find the link now. I placed the file in pda on odin and put my phone into download mode and placed it on my phone. That was the first time I used odin but it was very easy for me. Would be very interested to try it with root explorer if the need arose.
studacris said:
If the next thread I open ends up being about 3e recovery I'm going to boycott both q&a and general... TRusselo you with me?
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If you guys boycott, I will add in some posts then so I can get my count up!
megatronisabeast said:
I used a different method to fix 3E recovery, did not know about the root explorer method but can't find the link now. I placed the file in pda on odin and put my phone into download mode and placed it on my phone. That was the first time I used odin but it was very easy for me. Would be very interested to try it with root explorer if the need arose.
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congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.
Here is the method I used to root:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
It didn't require a fix for 3E since I wasn't flashing a rom but it was painless. I did a lot of research and found the way I thought would be easiest for me to root and flash a rom. The great thing is there are many ways to do it so you really have to not be looking to get one that doesn't work.
Dani897 said:
congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.
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Dani897 said:
congrats you just flashed a kernel!
oh your not the op. but anyway this is how i do it.
i guess you can root then root explorer the 3e recovery then rom manager then flash but how do you root before you fix 3e, doesn't a meathod that doesnt use recovery require a computer anyway? seems like a lot of work and if you are at the computer anyway odin flashing a cwm kernel seems way better. oh well.
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Kinda the same idea here , but I use kernel flasher (i know some say it's a bad thing, but I've never had a problem that wasn't because of my own stupidity).
The only reason I don't use Root explorer or other ones like it is because I only have one phone and can't afford to really mess something up. I play around with Linux on some of my computers but I have more than one and the one I practice code on is a play computer. I think it is good to learn at least some of the coding but for an inexperienced flasher they should either wait until they learn code then flash or use an easier method if they are dead set on rooting and romming their phone.
So I waited for the GB update and I like it but I think it is time to root this phone. I want to stress that I have had this phone since a little bit after it came out about two weeks after and it has run like a champ from day 1. No problems at all so when I updated to gb it was actually a downgrade in some ways like the camera but I definitly like gb because of the text editing but I havent noticed any improvement in battery life or speed or signal or GPS but All thouse things were great before and they are great now.
So I am running GB 2.3.3 withthe july 15 baseband and kernel 2.6.32.9 and I know it is different to root but I dont fully uinderstand it so if someone can post a detailed guide with as much explanation as possible so I understand what I am doing I would greatly appriciate it. I assume you cant get NV flasher from the market (I Havent looked) and what is cwm or cmw and if I flash a new rom will I loose the new baseband? Or can I get root permissions and keep stock GB? Tahnk you for all your help
First read the sticky at the top of the Android Development page. That sticky basically explains everything you will need to know, step by step.
In summary though....
Step 1 - NVFlash (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847)
Step 2 - Download Xboarders Rooted OTA.zip (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179748)
Step 3 - Boot into Clockwork Recovery
Step 4 - Install Zip from SD Card - the Zip you downloaded above
Voila you have rooted GB 2.3.3 with new baseband.
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
jabhome said:
An alternative that I would suggest would be Eaglesblood 1.06 GB 2.3.3 though, smoothest ROM on the boards IMO and based on GB 2.3.3
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I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
pdxmatts said:
I've tried both Roms and I would have to sway that Xboarder's Tweaked Rom is the best GB update 2.3.3 Rom.
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Did not try Xboarders tweaked, maybe I will give it a try.
Does swype work on that rom as phone just took a dump with swype beta. First reboot in over two months just now.
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Follow the advice above. I flashed a rom for the first time today.
Does the Netflix app work on xboarder's rom? I'm having issues with HDMI on CM7 going out about every 5 minutes but coming right back. I really need the netflix app for travel.
+1 on xboarders. Runs smooth and has all of the stock features
Sent from my LG-P999
thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
correct
mojorisin7178 said:
So According to the thread in this forum titles "how to get the new baseband" the rooted version of the new rom does not contain the new baseband. Or is that the leaked gingerbread that came out a few months ago way before the update came out? He is not talking about xboarders rom right? If I do what was suggested here I will in fact have the new baseband and 2.3.3 rooted right?
Charlie
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If you have the new baseband now no roms will change that.
The roms do not include the baseband .
mojorisin7178 said:
thanks guys that was what I thought. So it really is that easy? What actually gives it the root? is it the xboarders rom? I am going to ask alot of questions because I want to understand how it actually works so please bear with me. It sounds like it actually got easir to root with this update no? It seems like NVflash is a app or program that lets me put the rom on my sim card should I go internal or external? I have a whole bunch of external cards with diffewrent capacitys and the one i use now is 16 gig. Then clockwork recovery is a program that is already on the dvice I dont know if it is part of android or what but it is alrady there right? It lets me choose wether I want to recover or make a backup of roms or install new ones correct? Then when I put the tweeked rom on it has something in it hat roots the phone magically.
Please let me know what I am right about and what I am not right about and give me the correct answers because I really want to know I am a nosey motherfer
Charlie
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I flash from my external SD Card. You just need to decide where you want to install from, and then make sure you set up NVFlash with the correct support, external or internal.
Not sure of the exact terminology, but I think the procedure itself would be called to NVFlash ClockworkMod. NVFlash is the procedure to install CWM, while CWM is the program that you will run via Volume Down + Power when you boot up. CWM 4.0.0.2 will boot up and from there you will be able to flash roms, backup and restore Nandroids.
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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CWM doesn't "contain" root permissions, it just allows you to flash any ROM into the phone, rooted or otherwise. The Xboarder ROM is pre-rooted, along with most of the others.
THANK YOU!
I too am a noob and was a little confused. I'd search the forums and come up with too much info. Plus, some terms used on this forum are slightly overloaded (in the C++ context) from the classic meanings, like "ROM" and "baseband". Those terms as used here do not mean exactly what they meant 20 years ago.
I'm sure I need to read more on app dev (but I have too many hobbies already), but I'm confused about the layers of s/w. As a noob, I would think the layers would be BIOS or maybe BSP, Linux, Android. So I don't understand:
1) where does the clockwork mod fit within the layers?
1a) nvdia nvflash installs new drivers in the Linux layer?
2) what is contained in the ROM image? A new version of Linux, andriod, nvdia drivers, baseband?
3) Is there a BIOS/BSP, or is all register access done in Linux drivers?
I'm not looking for a developers level answer to these questions, more of the readers digest version of the answers.
Since I'm having black screen of death (I believe referred to here as "SOD"), on two phones, I'd like to understand more, to figure out if this problem is h/w or s/w. I am definitely leaning towards s/w problems and my wife and I would love to keep these phones.
Thanks again.
-Bob
mojorisin7178 said:
Ah that makes sense Now I see CWM stands for Clock work mod. See I was thinking CWM is a rom I actually thought it stood for cyogen mod I just couldnt figure out the W. So when I flash CWM it contains the root permissions already is that how it works?
So I should use nvflash to install cwm then I should probally make a backup of my stock rom. Also If I just install or flash CWM and not flash a new rom then Will my phone be rooted stock? or do I have to flash the xborders rom to gain root?
Thanks alot guys
Charlie
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Continuing off of what Spyvie said, you do need to flash xboarder's rom to gain root, (more like repeating what he said). As for nvflash, this should make things a bit easier. tgagunman made a nice one click feature that if you follow the directions, should be easier to follow. You will get clockwork mod recovery, it will be nvflashed, but it's a lot easier for a non-techie to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847
I want to thank everyone who chimed in you guys have been really good to me Bob has some really good questions also and I hope this thread can help you out bob. That is why I started this thread for people like me who are really good with computers and like to mess around but don't quite understand phones. Every time something goes wrong with my PC I go to the forums and I fix it myself then I feel good. (And I have had some real disasters on my PC I have come back from)
Anyway I will be doing this procedure soon as I feel confident that I can do it and I see there is a fix for unbricking phones. One last question before I hit the green light: Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled? I suspect that since the ROM is pre-rooted that all I would have to do is format and install my original ROM then uninstall CWM is that on point or no? And Again THANKS TO ALL WHO CHIME IN WITH THE ANSWERS AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE OTHERS TO CHIME IN WITH THERE QUESTIONS.
Charlie
Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
mojorisin7178 said:
Can it be unrooted just in case I have to send it back for warantey issues and can CWM be uninstalled?
Charlie
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You can restore you Nandroid of the preroot OTA, or you can unroot with the unroot zip that Xboarder provided in his link.
mojorisin7178 said:
Okay so I checked out the links. So I gather that step 1 has to be skipped now because super1click does not work. So we can just NVflash CWM which looks easy enough. Now I have winzip on my computer will that work for extracting .rar files? I am pretty sure it will but I want to make sure. And I am going to shut off user control permissions and I use MS security essentials for my Anti virus so I am thinking of shutting that off for this procedure would that be a wise thing and is there anything else that I should do. I am not a computer expert but I am not a idiot either I am just inexperienced. Thank you guys
Charlie
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no, there is nothing else you need to do to your computer. The link provided by the brother above (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847) is where you need to be. Skip the one click root and go straight to NV flash. It will guide you through installing the nvidia drivers you need. TGA_Gunnman has is laid out really nice and easy to follow and the program he put together (one click clm recovery nv flasher) is really simple to understand and use. he also has another post out there (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060715) that is also helpfull. Once you get nv flash done make sure you copy the rom you want on your sd card. IMO Xboarders is very nice and smooth. You will hold down volume down and power together until you see the android screen. Then in the menu use vol keys to move to backup and restore and use power to select. Then move to yes and run the backup. then you can wipe data/factory restore. Then wipe cache. Then go to advanced and wipe dalvic and batt stats. Then go back to "choose zip from sd" and find your rom zip and select it. It will run for a while and tell you when its done, Then go to advanced again and fix permission. After that just go to reboot option and let it reboot. It may take a little longer the first time, just let it go. When it reboots you will have a rooted 2.3.3 with the new baseband you just updated to. After that go to the market and get Titanium Backup and run a backup of all your apps and data. From there your pretty much good to start flashing away. Have fun, Good luck
Okay, I've just rooted my S3. First time ever rooting an android phone, so I was thrilled when Odin said "Passed" and I didn't brick it.
Now what? I've installed Titianium (Free) to backup the one app that I wanted fixed LV Sync. I only did this because everytime I rebooted my device it would delete the account that I created with LV Sync. Now after backing up, uninstalling with Titanium and then restoring, it no longer does that. Perfect.
Now what?? When I jailbroker my first iPhone I discovered after the fact that I couldn't go back because I didn't save my blobs. With everything I read about rooting, nothing said to backup first, so I decided I just did it.
Is there something that I should back up now? Is there something that I should do before anything else?
Would appreciate any guidance on this please.
jim.thornton said:
Okay, I've just rooted my S3. First time ever rooting an android phone, so I was thrilled when Odin said "Passed" and I didn't brick it.
Now what? I've installed Titianium (Free) to backup the one app that I wanted fixed LV Sync. I only did this because everytime I rebooted my device it would delete the account that I created with LV Sync. Now after backing up, uninstalling with Titanium and then restoring, it no longer does that. Perfect.
Now what?? When I jailbroker my first iPhone I discovered after the fact that I couldn't go back because I didn't save my blobs. With everything I read about rooting, nothing said to backup first, so I decided I just did it.
Is there something that I should back up now? Is there something that I should do before anything else?
Would appreciate any guidance on this please.
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Will first you need to install cwm you can probably find that where you learned how to root then you can make a android backup which backups up your whole phone even the operating system then you can install a custom ROM I recommend the latest CyanogenMod 10.1 nightly there very stable
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bbrad said:
Will first you need to install cwm you can probably find that where you learned how to root then you can make a android backup which backups up your whole phone even the operating system then you can install a custom ROM I recommend the latest CyanogenMod 10.1 nightly there very stable
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At this time I don't really want to install a custom ROM. I use the phone for work and I don't really want to go through the process of setting everything up again.
Also, the method that I used for rooting it was Chainfire's method which didn't use ClockworkMod. There was a comment about it interfering with something (can't remember what though).
Is there any other way to make a backup of the phone exactly as-is other than CWM?
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At this time I don't really want to install a custom ROM. I use the phone for work and I don't really want to go through the process of setting everything up again.
Also, the method that I used for rooting it was Chainfire's method which didn't use ClockworkMod. There was a comment about it interfering with something (can't remember what though).
Is there any other way to make a backup of the phone exactly as-is other than CWM?
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Not really 90% of the stuff requires cwm you can use a app like my backup pro which bakes up all your apps and contacts to your SD. Or you can just go ahead and make the jump to a custom ROM which then you can schedule regular full system backups and exsprience tons of performance increase and you learn a lot about android but if you don't want to make the jump I recommend mubackuppro
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bbrad said:
Not really 90% of the stuff requires cwm you can use a app like my backup pro which bakes up all your apps and contacts to your SD. Or you can just go ahead and make the jump to a custom ROM which then you can schedule regular full system backups and exsprience tons of performance increase and you learn a lot about android but if you don't want to make the jump I recommend mubackuppro
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Well, as mentioned, the guide that I used did not show CWM. Is there a guide that I can use that will work? Will CWM work on all versions of the S3? I have the Canadian version SGH-I747M. I just want to be careful not to brick it.
Also... If I use CWM, will that allow me to make a backup ROM? Meaning, that if I install a custom ROM and don't like it for any reason or run into problems that I can put my phone back exactly as it is now?
CM allows you to do a compete backup of your ROM. I don't think that includes media FYI
Google how to install Cwm on your S3 Version which you should initially flash to device through Odin.
I believe using ROM MANAGER you can locate download and flash your recovery.
International S III 16GB / CM10.1 / Gokhan's SK
Bricking
I wouldn't worry too much about bricking your phone. most of the time when people say they bricked their phone all they need to do is restore it using recovery mode/a computer.
To actually brick your device it needs to stop turning on and stop responding to it being plugged into the computer which is quite unlikely to happen.
If your phone turns on but just doesn't boot into a ROM that is not bricked!
I would just throw in that I have used both CWM ("Clockwork Mod") and TWRP (Team Win Recovery Project) and I like TWRP better. It's not a pain to change if you decide to, but doing backups can take a while. You can get TWRP with the Goomanager app in the Play Store. If I were you, I'd recommend researching both a bit and then deciding for yourself.
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If you gamers, cusrom with gamming tweaks recommended. But first, you must backup your rom if you don't like the cusrom gamming mode
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Don't worry, within a few weeks you'll probably unlock the bootloader and flash custom roms.
So first step would be to install cwm. Even if you are not gonna unlock bootloader, it will help you to FULLY backup, restore your phone and install modules.
Just for safety keep an ftf file of your stock version with you (on pc).
And do a backup before flashing any custom roms.
Just dig around a lot before doing anything and there won't be any chance of bricking it.
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jim.thornton said:
Well, as mentioned, the guide that I used did not show CWM. Is there a guide that I can use that will work? Will CWM work on all versions of the S3? I have the Canadian version SGH-I747M. I just want to be careful not to brick it.
Also... If I use CWM, will that allow me to make a backup ROM? Meaning, that if I install a custom ROM and don't like it for any reason or run into problems that I can put my phone back exactly as it is now?
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you can use rom manager or rom toolbox (available in the play store) to flash cwm. then use CWM to make a nandroid back of your rom. then try new roms if you don't like them you can unse recovery to reflash your stock rom. after you flash a custom rom play store shoud reinstall you apps for you and your google account will sync your contacts so setting up your phone after a fresh install is not very hard or time consuming
You shouldn't have to worry about setting up your phone all over after flashing a new ROM if you have titanium backup. Just get on Google play and re download titanium, run it and reboot. Your apps and even how you at up your home pages are back to normal, but you'd have the benefits of the new ROM. I love Synergy ROM. there are a lot of good ones.
bbrad said:
Not really 90% of the stuff requires cwm you can use a app like my backup pro which bakes up all your apps and contacts to your SD. Or you can just go ahead and make the jump to a custom ROM which then you can schedule regular full system backups and exsprience tons of performance increase and you learn a lot about android but if you don't want to make the jump I recommend mubackuppro
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I also use my backup pro. It's simple and works well for me.
I flash a lot of roms to check them out and my backup pro restores all my apps, contacts, txt messages every time without issue. It will even restore your shortcuts on your home screen if you'd like.
I also use TWRP. like it a lot.
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As said previously, install cwm(through romantic manager) or twrp (through goo manager) (I personally prefer twrp) and make a full nandroid backup.
This backup will be your goto stock image in case you flash something else.
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Thanks to Everyone! Your help has really made the process easy and worry free. I've completed the rooting, installed goomanager and installed TWRP and run a full backup. I'm even starting to get the itch to look at some ROMs... I guess you were right mnishamk.
I have a few questions and was hoping for some clarification please:
1. What is nandroid? I installed the TWRP and clicked "BACKUP". Is that a nandroid backup?
2. Is there a resource that I can go to that will list all of the ROMS that are available and the differences? I'm not really into tweaking a lot of things, but love smooth running/looking apps and efficiency.
3. My mom has a Galaxy Nexus (not sure which version/baseband -- does it matter). I would like to root her device.
4. My Dad has a Toshiba AT100 tablet. I would also like to do that.
I'm not sure where to find the guides for each of the devices.
jim.thornton said:
Thanks to Everyone! Your help has really made the process easy and worry free. I've completed the rooting, installed goomanager and installed TWRP and run a full backup. I'm even starting to get the itch to look at some ROMs... I guess you were right mnishamk.
I have a few questions and was hoping for some clarification please:
1. What is nandroid? I installed the TWRP and clicked "BACKUP". Is that a nandroid backup?
2. Is there a resource that I can go to that will list all of the ROMS that are available and the differences? I'm not really into tweaking a lot of things, but love smooth running/looking apps and efficiency.
3. My mom has a Galaxy Nexus (not sure which version/baseband -- does it matter). I would like to root her device.
4. My Dad has a Toshiba AT100 tablet. I would also like to do that.
I'm not sure where to find the guides for each of the devices.
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1. Yes that's nandroid
2.Not really but I suggest cm10 its smooth stable and efficient
3.You can look at the thread for the galaxy nexus and there's probably a rooting guide stickied
4 Look at 3
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I might suggest not rooting your mom's device/dad's tablet. I have helped my mom set up her tablet, but I'm not going to root it unless there's a really good reason where root is absolutely the only solution to what needs to be done.
The problem is, if she doesn't understand what rooting is and what's going on, she can mess up the phone much more than get any advantage. It's not really necessary unless you have a specific goal. I rooted my tablet because I wanted to flash custom ROMs because ASUS no longer supports this tablet. I rooted my phone because I wanted to install Google Wallet. I helped my friend root her phone so she could try out custom ROMs - she is computer literate unlike my mom and understands the risks involved.
Maybe your mom is much more into computers than mine is, but I wouldn't root a device for someone who doesn't understand it and doesn't have a reason to. While a custom recovery is useful for people who want to mess with their phones, it's not something a regular user really needs to the point that the benefits outweigh the risks.
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Look for a rom that incorporates the CM/AOKP theme chooser. So many really nice looking themes. Alloy ui is a favorite of mine
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I have an LG G2x with Android 2.3.4 and v21y with March 2012 baseband. I would like to keep this phone for a while. It is stable, and I do not plan to try any other roms. I am a relative newbie at rooting, and while I have done a lot of reading on the forums, I am learning as I go and hope someone will be patient enough to respond.
1. I am wondering if there is a performance advantage to rooting it and removing the tmo bloatware that came pre-installed. How would I know what I can remove without messing up the phone?
2. How would I undo the root or backup my phone before I start messing with it?
3. I have been trying to read as much as I can find on the forums. It is a lot of reading, and I am a newbie trying to learn as I go. It appears that I can use SuperOneClick 2.33 to root the phone. Is that right?
4. I have also read about using One-Click NvFlasher ClockWorkMod Touch at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056847. Do I need this if I don't plan to try other roms? Or do I need this to get my phone back to its original state?
If you're planning to root your phone I would use the last link you posted for one-click NvFlasher. Flash CWM using that program. Works great. after doing that download the root.zip file from here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214 Follow the instructions under HOW TO ROOT. It's extremely simple. Once your phone is rooted, I recommend making a nandroid back up of your rooted rom by booting into CWM and choosing backup/restore and clicking on backup. CWM will then make a backup of your rooted ROM that you can keep on your phone or move to your PC.
Pain-N-Panic said:
If you're planning to root your phone I would use the last link you posted for one-click NvFlasher. Flash CWM using that program. Works great. after doing that download the root.zip file from here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255214 Follow the instructions under HOW TO ROOT. It's extremely simple. Once your phone is rooted, I recommend making a nandroid back up of your rooted rom by booting into CWM and choosing backup/restore and clicking on backup. CWM will then make a backup of your rooted ROM that you can keep on your phone or move to your PC.
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I'm hoping someone can tell me if there is a performance advantage to rooting given that I don't plan to install a different rom. Also, what is the difference between using SuperOneClick versus NvFlasher? If I root, I would also like to be able to unroot.
I do not believe that super one click works with 2.3.4 that's what I read on the forums. The easiest way to root is to install cwm via NvFlash and then flash the root.zip file in the link I posted. After you flash cwm with NvFlash, make a Android backup of your unrooted ROM. if you ever want to unroot just restore the unrooted rom through CWM. There are slight performances to having super user access like taking off the unnecessary bloatware that tmo makes you have. However, the real performance advantages come from flashing roms and kernals. There are 2.3.4 rooms that you can flash with performance enhanced aspects to them. In my honest opinion, if you don't plan on flashing a rom or kernal (which I think u will eventually) then rooting isn't really worth it.
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Pain-N-Panic said:
I do not believe that super one click works with 2.3.4 that's what I read on the forums. The easiest way to root is to install cwm via NvFlash and then flash the root.zip file in the link I posted. After you flash cwm with NvFlash, make a Android backup of your unrooted ROM. if you ever want to unroot just restore the unrooted rom through CWM. There are slight performances to having super user access like taking off the unnecessary bloatware that tmo makes you have. However, the real performance advantages come from flashing roms and kernals. There are 2.3.4 rooms that you can flash with performance enhanced aspects to them. In my honest opinion, if you don't plan on flashing a rom or kernal (which I think u will eventually) then rooting isn't really worth it.
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Thanks for your reply. I would root if removing the tmo bloatware resulted in significantly improved performance. Since that does not appear to be the case, I will probably not root (unless the itch to give a try becomes overwhelming)
Oh you'll get the itch!
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Hello,
My GT-P5100 is currently on stock 4.0.3. I would like to root it, but I have no idea which guide to follow. I found these 3 to be somehow equally good:
1st: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657056
2nd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101044
3rd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957165
Which one would you recommend to me? What are the main differences? I do however plan to flash other ROM and kernel if that helps with decision.
Oh, and the last question - will I use any data with rooting?
Thanks!
krneki10 said:
Hello,
My GT-P5100 is currently on stock 4.0.3. I would like to root it, but I have no idea which guide to follow. I found these 3 to be somehow equally good:
1st: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657056
2nd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101044
3rd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957165
Which one would you recommend to me? What are the main differences? I do however plan to flash other ROM and kernel if that helps with decision.
Oh, and the last question - will I use any data with rooting?
Thanks!
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Follow which ever guide you find the easiest to understand, there is no right or wrong way to root - I'm not an expert so i'm not sure on the differences.
however i used CF Root when i rooted my tab (now updated to CF-Auto_Root) <--- so that would be my recommendation.
I would not use the 2nd link you posted as they are for different versions of the tab you're wanting to root.
the last question, i dont understand much (maybe that's just me) do you mean use data as in 3g? or loose data like files and things? to be honest it wont matter, because rooting won't affect either. Flashing custom roms will affect your personal data.
PLEASE - once rooted, make a backup of your working rom, then backup your EFS folder - if that gets corrupy you have an expensive paper weight!
Thanks, I will try CF Auto Root. Should I install CWM after that? Is it needed for AOKP?
krneki10 said:
Thanks, I will try CF Auto Root. Should I install CWM after that? Is it needed for AOKP?
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CWM is a custom recovery which enables you to flash roms and make backups amongst other things. Please read up about them before you start rooting or flashing as you could end up rendering your tab useless if you don't know how to use it correctly. Did I mention backup. And backup your efs! If you don't your imei could get corrupt and you can't use the tabs data connection, wifi or bluetooth.
Let me recap the process:
1. Follow CF Auto Root process
2. Backup EFS (with stock recovery)
3. Backup ROM (with stock recovery)
4. Follow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1722063
5. Flash AOKP milestone 1: http://aokp.co/supported-devices/?id=17&device=p5100
Is that correct? Anything else I should take care of? But if I make backups with stock recovery, won't they be useless in CWM? Or do I have to redo them in CWM?
Thanks.
Errr, no you need to cf auto root, THEN flash cwm. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my last post, I was telling you to make a back up in cwm. You kind of need to flash cf auto root to gain root access from your 1st link then follow the 3rd link you posted to flash cwm. You need to download an app to backup your efs, cwm won't do that for you.
squ89r97 said:
Errr, no you need to cf auto root, THEN flash cwm. Sorry if I wasn't clear in my last post, I was telling you to make a back up in cwm. You kind of need to flash cf auto root to gain root access from your 1st link then follow the 3rd link you posted to flash cwm. You need to download an app to backup your efs, cwm won't do that for you.
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Ok, so:
1. Follow CF Auto Root process
2. Flash CWM with Odin
3. Backup EFS
4. Flash AOKP milestone 1
But which app should I use for backup?
krneki10 said:
Ok, so:
1. Follow CF Auto Root process
2. Flash CWM with Odin
3. Backup EFS
3.2 - back up your rom.
4. Flash AOKP milestone 1
But which app should I use for backup?
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right, hear me out - are you sure you're ready to root your tab? only asking because all the info you need is on this forum but you don't seem really sure on how to do it. I dont want you to follow my advice (and that's all it is) then bugger up your tab.
have you tried searching google for back up efs? or looked on the play store? there is a tool called kTool.
Please do some more reading on what involves rooting and cwm and all it's processes, also read up on preventative measures to avoid bricking your device - no one wants that (you dont want to be another member posting in 2 weeks time saying you cant connect to any data)
sorry if i sound condescending, i just think reading all the info is much easier than getting a breakdown from someone else.
p.s i added 3.2 in your steps above - Don't forget to backup your rom (leaving something this simple out could be life or death )
good luck.
I'm already running on CM10.1, thanks for your help! Process is actually really simple, but instructions are bad and outdated.
krneki10 said:
I'm already running on CM10.1, thanks for your help! Process is actually really simple, but instructions are bad and outdated.
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feel free to make an updated guide :laugh: I myself have the (i think, the more common) P3110 - wifi only tab 2 7" - those guides are a little more up to date - just a quick note - cm10.1 is running 4.2.x - Most 4.2.x roms are less stable than 4.1.x roms meaning you may get some issues.
Glad it all worked out for you. happy flashing (ROMS )