If anybody has an S-pen that has broken, please PM me. I am trying to make my own and need the circuit card to make it work.
I make pens and pencils out of wood on my lathe and want to try my hand at a S-Pen stylus. I have been unable to find any pens that look decent and thought this might be a good solution.
Alternately, if anyone knows of a source for the circuit boards (both pen and eraser) please let me know. If I can put together a workable kit for these I might consider selling a few.
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You might want to check out this rather lengthy thread on styluses. There are some desings/ideas for pen holders that dont destroy the original spen. I would not advise taking a spen apart. However if you are a king with wood working and can produce objects that are accurate to a fraction of a millimeter then go ahead. The board has to fit correctly and support the tip. The tip of the pen with the coil seems very fragile to me. I would advise making a holder around the spen shell instead of designing a new pen from ground up.
I made a simple printable spen holder which can be found here, you should be able to make it from wood too.
Here are the photos and dimensions of the circuit board.
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You might want to check out this rather lengthy thread on styluses. There are some desings/ideas for pen holders that dont destroy the original spen. I would not advise taking a spen apart. However if you are a king with wood working and can produce objects that are accurate to a fraction of a millimeter then go ahead. The board has to fit correctly and support the tip. The tip of the pen with the coil seems very fragile to me. I would advise making a holder around the spen shell instead of designing a new pen from ground up.
I made a simple printable spen holder which can be found here, you should be able to make it from wood too.
Here are the photos and dimensions of the circuit board.
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Thanks for the help. I'll take a look at your references. As I stated earlier, I already have an older pen with a broken tube. I have dismanteled it and made some measurements. Being a much older mode,l for a tablet computer, it appears to be a little larger than the current models. I have been able to come up with a tube to support the internal circuit card. It fits nicely. The only issue I have is the tip. Since it can't be metal, it will take a little more work. I think I have all of the deminsions worked out and have tested the functionality on the mock-up. Now I need to get to the lathe and see what I can do.
I like your idea of "printing" a pen. Based on all of the deminsions needed that seems like a great way to get the design you want. I wish I had access to a printer. We have one at work but I'm not sure I can get access to it for such a project.
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Great job with the PDF, thanks!! The newer design does look a bit different than the older one I have. It appears that the width of the coil/tip is slightly larger than the circuit card giving it a tapered look. The overall design lends itself to a mulit-peice pen design, which works well with the wood pen construction methods.
The S-Pen I have also has an eraser. The eraser is a seperate circuit card. This piece fits nicely either on the opposite end of the pen or in the cap pending on the style of pen.
I don't really like the 'pen-holder' concept as I am looking for something with a more classical look. A one piece sleek design. I'll try to put something together this week with some pictures.
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So, here is my first attempt at making a me S-Pen. Not ideal, but I'm still working out the details. I decided to forgo the button on this one but hope to have it on the final version. This one turned into more of a Stylus-holder rather than a pen. It's a little longer than I intended but I like the size and feel of it. It's really esy to write with.
I made this one from an old Tablet PC Stylus with a broken barrel. He advantage is it has an eraser and seems to be accurate as far as position goes.
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I really like the design of your pen, looks nice and classical. Not something I can manufacture with my tools.
I personally like my design, because I store my pens in my tablets and have the holders in my bag. It's a simple design which works, for me simple is "beautiful". My initial design actually covered the whole pen, but I figured that it's just a waste of material. Even worse it scratched the spen quite a bit, because I take it out of the holder a lot. For me the button is crucial, because I use it to switch to the eraser in lecturenotes. I'm interested in how you are going to incorporate it in your design.
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I really like the design of your pen, looks nice and classical. Not something I can manufacture with my tools.
I personally like my design, because I store my pens in my tablets and have the holders in my bag. It's a simple design which works, for me simple is "beautiful". My initial design actually covered the whole pen, but I figured that it's just a waste of material. Even worse it scratched the spen quite a bit, because I take it out of the holder a lot. For me the button is crucial, because I use it to switch to the eraser in lecturenotes. I'm interested in how you are going to incorporate it in your design.
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Since mine has an eraser built in I don't use the button much. The tablet pen I found was missing the button and I didn't want too make one for this Pen. Now That l I have built one l Know what changes to make for the next.
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I have not seen one, but there are a couple of apps on Google Play that are supposed to help you with this if you just use any cover that covers the proximity sensor.
One of them is called CaseSensor, I have not tried this one myself and based on the reviews it may not work that well...
This one does not; however, here is my review on the case I bought. LOVE it.
Ok, my case just arrived. In a word, amazing.
Quality - Outstanding.
Fit - Perfect. Tablet is in there snug. Zero wiggle or shift.
Protection - As good as it gets.
Looks - Expensive.
Feel - Back is soft felt - very comfortable to hold. Inner sleeve small enough to still easily thumb type.
Convenience - Portrait and landscape with REMOVABLE INTERIOR..
Pen Access - Comes with own pen holder designed for the s-pen.
I mean, I am hard on cases and return them in a second if don't like them. I'm keeping this. I love it. I am truly amazed they can produce a case of this quality for $17.95.
I'd take some pictures myself but it looks just like this.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008L33VPY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
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I have not seen one, but there are a couple of apps on Google Play that are supposed to help you with this if you just use any cover that covers the proximity sensor.
One of them is called CaseSensor, I have not tried this one myself and based on the reviews it may not work that well...
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It works actually great but a the sensor is too sensitive, when I am using my tablet but I could disable it.. will see..
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Looks like you can order these cases in bulk to resell: http://cspda.en.alibaba.com/product..._case_for_Samsung_galaxy_note_10_1_N8000.html
But no place to buy them singles
We better get some cases soon, I have a green one o got off amazon for 12 bucks total. Its alright just wish it had smart magnet
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This one does not; however, here is my review on the case I bought. LOVE it.
Ok, my case just arrived. In a word, amazing.
Quality - Outstanding.
Fit - Perfect. Tablet is in there snug. Zero wiggle or shift.
Protection - As good as it gets.
Looks - Expensive.
Feel - Back is soft felt - very comfortable to hold. Inner sleeve small enough to still easily thumb type.
Convenience - Portrait and landscape with REMOVABLE INTERIOR..
Pen Access - Comes with own pen holder designed for the s-pen.
I mean, I am hard on cases and return them in a second if don't like them. I'm keeping this. I love it. I am truly amazed they can produce a case of this quality for $17.95.
I'd take some pictures myself but it looks just like this.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008L33VPY/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
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I had that one for 10 minutes . Returned it . That velcro releases too easy , and then when you want to put it together it takes 2 tries to adjust camera cutout . You have to stylus in the holder on the side and not in it's original place like intended . When it's in original place you can't pul it out . After i returned this one I ordered this one http://www.amazon.com/Acase-Samsung...409002&sr=8-10&keywords=galaxy+note+10.1+case
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I had that one for 10 minutes . Returned it . That velcro releases too easy , and then when you want to put it together it takes 2 tries to adjust camera cutout . You have to stylus in the holder on the side and not in it's original place like intended . When it's in original place you can't pul it out . After i returned this one I ordered this one http://www.amazon.com/Acase-Samsung...409002&sr=8-10&keywords=galaxy+note+10.1+case
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There's an opening in the case for the pen so you can keep it in the original place, it's just too small. You can pull it out, it's just not very easy to do. I'm getting better at it though. I would like a bigger opening like the one on the case you linked to.
Anyway, I thought I read that when the pen is not inside the tablet slot, the Note executes pen detection code. If you store the pen outside the tablet, wouldn't that drain your battery? There's even an option (in settings) to turn off pen detection when it's inside the tablet slot.
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There's an opening in the case for the pen so you can keep it in the original place, it's just too small. You can pull it out, it's just not very easy to do. I'm getting better at it though. I would like a bigger opening like the one on the case you linked to.
Anyway, I thought I read that when the pen is not inside the tablet slot, the Note executes pen detection code. If you store the pen outside the tablet, wouldn't that drain your battery? There's even an option (in settings) to turn off pen detection when it's inside the tablet slot.
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I think it would only place a small drain on the battery if the pen was close enough to be registering and then you would get the hovering icon which you don't get until the pen is quite close to the screen.
$59.99 at Amazon
£39.99 at Tuff-Luv
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Tuff-Grip Wallet Style in "Vintage" genuine leather: brown
Specially designed to fit your Google Nexus 4
Includes slots for your phone and pockets for your cash and cards
This Tuff-Luv product qualifies for our lifetime guarantee against faulty workmanship / materials – conditions apply
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Haven't seen this posted here (yes, I even searched), and after Googling it, I couldn't find much other than where to buy it. No reviews or videos or anything! That's kind of unfortunate, because it certainly looks like a top notch premium case/wallet. I'm considering picking one up, although I would agree that it does seem a little pricey. On the other hand, quality does come at a price (and so does style). None of the other genuine leather wallet style cases I've seen look even remotely as nice as this one. The BoxWave does look good, and while they claim it's genuine leather, reviews point out that it is indeed faux leather. As any leather connoisseur knows, just smell it. Faux leather is a deal breaker for me. Even the Sena Magia doesn't look as classy or as high quality, yet it's self-described as a designer case, and costs just as much!
One feature about this Tuff-Luv case that really grabs my attention is the pen holder. I recently picked up the Adonit Jot Pro stylus (highly recommended, btw) so this would be perfect to always have it handy. Since I also use a Square reader on the go, I like the idea of providing my clients with a pen-like stylus when they sign for credit card payments. Also makes for a better experience when jotting notes or sketching, but anyway, I'm trailing off too much here. Point is, having the option to always have it handy is a definite plus.
So to recap: Designer quality genuine leather, beautiful design, card/money slots (could replace a wallet), pen/stylus holder, lifetime guarantee... Seems like a winner to me! Only down side is the price. What does everyone else think? Does anyone here even have this? If so, it would be great to see some input. Maybe a quick review and some real world pictures would be nice.
The only problem I see with these kind of cases - all the cards and the pen may scratch the glass.
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The only problem I see with these kind of cases - all the cards and the pen may scratch the glass.
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You do bring up a couple valid points, but it does come with a screen protector - and they encourage applying it right away. Even if it's not as good as other screen protectors on the market, it would work just as well with any others. As far as the pen goes, it shouldn't touch the glass at all. If you use a pen with a clip on it, face it away from the screen to be safe. I'm sure this was a concern in the design phase.
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The only problem I see with these kind of cases - all the cards and the pen may scratch the glass.
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Credit cards (assuming they're made of plastic) shouldn't scratch the glass. The principle is that an object made of a harder material will scratch an object made of a softer material. For the same reason, our fingernails cannot scratch the glass of our beloved Nexus 4. As for the pen, it appears as though the case holds the phone in place with two strips of some kind of material which covers both the left and right side of the phone. I would imagine that the pen (or stylus) would only come into contact with the inner strip of the securing strap (or whatever you'd like to call it). In either case, if I were to purchase this case, I wouldn't worry about a card or pen/stylus would scratch my phone.
tl;dr: Unless your credit cards are made of harder material than the glass on the Nexus 4, there should be no concern with the glass getting scratched.
I had one of the faux leather ones as my first n4 case. Didnt have as much wallet room as i had hoped (to be expected). But i found my biggest qualm with it to be when i had it the cover folded all the way back, it muted the speaker. I never found what I'd call "the ideal" way to hold it.
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Ok, so this is a really simple modification, but it turned out to work really well and deserves a post.
I recently started using the Poetic Slimliine Case for my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 tablet and really like it. Thin, light, Sleep/Wake function, and good protection. The only thing it is missing in my opinion is an elastic holder for a larger S Pen. I realize the Note 8 already has an smaller S Pen inside the tablet body, but the larger versions you can purchase from Samsung or Wacom are better for taking notes as they are the size / weight of a normal pen, and the back works an an eraser tool for most applications that work with the SPen (S Note, Papyrus, etc). Here is the one I purchased. It works really well, much more accurate that the crappy types of stylus you can get for other tablets, accurate and feels very close to pen / paper.
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To fix this issue, I commissioned my wife to help with her sewing skills. Purchased a roll of 1.5in wide black elastic from Hobby Lobby, and had her sew some loops on the top of two bands.
I was going to glue the bands to the inside of the case, but found it wasn't necessary. The friction grip that occurs once the tablet is snapped into case is plenty strong enough to keep them in and from moving around.
Here we have it installed. It keeps the Pen securely in place, and is very easy to access. Also doesn't get in the way when holding the tablet in any orientation.
Here is a shot from the back. It is flexible enough to easily plug into the headphone jack. Doesn't hinder anything on the device.
Overall, this little $2 upgrade has made this case perfect for me now. Very happy with how it turned out.
That's a pretty slick idea. I just got the Note 8 and SOMEHOW haven't seen this pen in the year I've had my Note II. Time for an amazon order.
Great idea, I'm going to see if this works on the Samsung Book Cover. Was wondering how I could keep my Bamboo handy.
Thanks for this, great idea. I'm going to buy the Wacom Bamboo stylus for my Note and will do something similar to keep it close to hand. I've got an official Samsung case, but think that shouldn't make too much of a difference.
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Mr_Armageddon said:
Ok, so this is a really simple modification, but it turned out to work really well and deserves a post.
I recently started using the Poetic Slimliine Case for my Samsung Galaxy Note 8 tablet and really like it. Thin, light, Sleep/Wake function, and good protection. The only thing it is missing in my opinion is an elastic holder for a larger S Pen. I realize the Note 8 already has an smaller S Pen inside the tablet body, but the larger versions you can purchase from Samsung or Wacom are better for taking notes as they are the size / weight of a normal pen, and the back works an an eraser tool for most applications that work with the SPen (S Note, Papyrus, etc). Here is the one I purchased. It works really well, much more accurate that the crappy types of stylus you can get for other tablets, accurate and feels very close to pen / paper.
To fix this issue, I commissioned my wife to help with her sewing skills. Purchased a roll of 1.5in wide black elastic from Hobby Lobby, and had her sew some loops on the top of two bands.
I was going to glue the bands to the inside of the case, but found it wasn't necessary. The friction grip that occurs once the tablet is snapped into case is plenty strong enough to keep them in and from moving around.
Here we have it installed. It keeps the Pen securely in place, and is very easy to access. Also doesn't get in the way when holding the tablet in any orientation.
Here is a shot from the back. It is flexible enough to easily plug into the headphone jack. Doesn't hinder anything on the device.
Overall, this little $2 upgrade has made this case perfect for me now. Very happy with how it turned out.
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Incipio Fixie Universal Tablet Stand
Many of the cases we found that do double duty as tablet stands only offer one or two resting angles and aren’t always stable enough to hold up to tapping or on-screen typing. The Fixie from Incipio is versatile, sturdy, and really clever, which makes it a favorite. The stand is made up of two pieces that fit together in four different ways for four different viewing angles. Rubber grips are there to keep the tablet steady and the aluminum material used keeps it light while remaining strong. When not in use, the two halves are compact enough to slip in even a small bag without taking up too much space.
Very cool! Just got my pen and all I had were 1/2" strips, still works great. Thanks for the idea!
is that the genuine spen for the note 10.1?
link to pen here
and you have no problems with accuracy? because if so I need one
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Decided to make something for in-between as my cover needs to come from China, going to take a few weeks.
Remember if you see someone talking to a cardboard box, it doesn't have to be someone mental imitating talking on the phone!
Love it!
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Love it!
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I was just jokingly advocating its environmentalist status to a girl, who was rather pinned and asked "How is it any green?"*
I replied to her I was still looking for the right crayon
* ("if you make something for in the meantime while you're awaiting a shipment from China" is probably what she meant)
Hahah good one!
Kind of reminds me of the hands-free headset that has no wires or batteries..
The case makes it look like a Nexus S!
As someone asked on reddit for a tutorial, ill copy it here. Not much you cant figure out yourself.
My case consists of 7 layers of cardboard. Depending on the thickness it may be more or less with others.
1. Take the nexus 4 box. Cut out a few rectangles as big as the box is. (7 was enough for me).
2. In the inside of the nexus 4 box, take the 'tray' out where your nexus4 used to lay in. Fold it open and trace the shape onto a few cardboard pieces. This is going to be your 'bumper' section. You need as much layers as your phone is thick (9.1mm). The shape doesn't need to be perfect, rather cut away too less than too much.
3. Glue them together. It doesn't matter if the hole doesn't match op perfectly.
4. Take a dremel, a drill or any other rotary tool and a sandpaper head. Now sand the hole of the bunper together into the perfect shape. You can use sandpaper and do it by hand if you don't have any tools available.
5. Trace out another piece of cardboard, but this time cut the hole smaller. I just kept the sides by default and took a thumb of thickness extra on the top and bottom. This is your face plate. Pierce two holes on the top where your camera is and proximity sensor.
6. Put the bumper around your phone and mark the sections you want to cut out. Vokume rocker, on-off button, micro usb and the 3.5mm jack.
7. Cut your bumper to pieces and glue it onto your faceplate. Dremel or sand where necessary.
8. Now for the back part: I took two pieces of cardboard. And traced my public transport card on the top of one. Carefully cut out only the top layer if the cardboard and remove the 'waves' or 'ripples' inside.
9. Make an opening in the center of the hole around a fingernail long. This is how you slide the card out.
10. Glue the intact back piece and the card holder piece together so you card will be sandwiched in between.
11. Now you can simply glue them together with your phone inside, or if you want to get it out and leave the box intact, you can make an interlocking mechanism. You can also pierce the corners with a large pick (twist! Don't push, as that ruins your box) or small drill and use some fishing line or hennep strand..gift ribbon even works, to close it up.
finish everything up by sanding or dremelling the sides so they are all correctly aligned and every piece is the same size. You can round your corners too if you wish.
someone do a review on this, looks interesting
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someone do a review on this, looks interesting
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I actually have quite a lot of faith it would work in a droptest from 1 meter high in a cornerdrop (or even flatfaced). If someone wants to sponsor me :3
Send this to MKBHD!
I notice how the layers seperate with the use D:, plastered the sides full of white wood glue now to keep it together.
Pray for me I did not accidentally put glue on my phone
So many reactions I get with my case . I currently also use this wallpaper, but I haven't found a really good one fitting the style.
Looks awesome !!
now thats an awesome cover!!! well done sir! You just changed the history of caver/bumper.
Great bumper! Must do something for the screen!
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I notice how the layers seperate with the use D:, plastered the sides full of white wood glue now to keep it together.
Pray for me I did not accidentally put glue on my phone
So many reactions I get with my case . I currently also use this wallpaper, but I haven't found a really good one fitting the style.
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Similar to yours but live
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uistore.fieldsystem.papertownfree
Unfortunately, live wallpapers kill the battery very quickly.
Yesterday I was laughed at it for the first time by a girl with a white Iphone.
Btw, changed the design a bit. By removing the little connections of the openings on the buttons on the faceplate, I have a folding line , so now I can take my phone out.
Better copyright that design before Otterbox steals it
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Better copyright that design before Otterbox steals it
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Good design in crisis times... Congrats sir
Salute sir :thumbup:
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After a month of use I figured I should update how it went on in use. Got my chinese normal business leather case now, so little use for this any more.
(Really, thumbnails don't work on XDA? :/)
But ye. In terms of design, I can take my phone in and out by removing the two connections and create a folding line. In terms of sturdyness: The cardboard disintegrates into ruffles after a while, and ye, made me to just glue the entire thing. It's a semi-TPU case now. (But it made it a lot more solid). The top bit of the face plate came off. Didn't really bother putting it back on, the phone was enclosed enough and just glued over the rest.
I picked up the Moto Mod Case from Verizon a couple of days ago and figured I'd do a quick review for anyone else who was thinking about getting it.
I tend to be a person who likes to carry a lot of things with me just in case I need them. For a couple of years now I've had a small camera bag kept in my backpack that I take with me to and from work or anytime I travel. In that camera case were chargers and cables, some memory cards/flash drives and a multi-card reader. This was my "just in case" bag and worked well, except that it was relatively bulky and fat. Now that I have a Moto Z Force and I've picked up a couple of mods, I figured I'd look at the Mod Case as an alternative to this.
The case it's very nicely sized for me... while taller and wider than the camera bag I was using, it's about an inch less "fat", which means it fits better in my backpack where I have plenty of vertical space but didn't want my bag bulging so much.
The case itself is a relatively rigid shell wrapped in fabric. It feels like it's good quality. There's a carry handle at the top and a loop with a carbineer attached. The loop doesn't feel SUPER solid, so I don't think I'd ever risk hooking it on the outside of a bag and not worrying that it might get ripped away.
The zip feels good quality and has a double zipper head on it. When open you're presented with three "zones." The first zone is the inside cover. Here is a soft mesh pouch that closes with a zipper. In this pouch you can put chargers and cables, etc. There's a decent amount of space here, but do note that it's not overtly deep, perhaps a cm or 1/2 and inch. You can put bigger things in here, but they will bulge beyond the the normal thickness.
The next zone is a Mod "Folder." This is a flap that is attached to the case at the handle end. It's wrapped in a soft fabric/foam and has pouches for four mods, two on the top, two underneath. All three of the modes I have (JBL, Projector, Incipio Battery) as well as a couple of back fit very nicely in these pouches. Tight enough to hold them securely, but loose enough that it isn't super hard to get out. You will need to hands to remove them generally.
The final zone is the bottom of the case. Here are a couple more pouches made of the same material mounted to a board that is held in place by velcro. This is a nice option as you can use 'em for more mods if you want (or other small things) or take the bottom piece out all together to put in a larger item like a laptop chargers. The bottom is a little deeper than the pouch in the cover, but remember it's designed to handle two mods more or less touching each other.
Over all I was very impressed with the quality of the case. It feels really nice and seems like it'll do a good job. Further, I'm happy to report that it isn't branded as Verizon... there isn't a single Verizon logo on the bag at all so if that's would be a negative to you, you needn't worry. The bag is mostly black with a few red highlights (nod to verizon there I guess), and it has a small metal logo plate on the front that simply says: DROID.
Let me know if you have any specific questions and I'll do my best to answer them.
More pictures can be seen here: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/lohinz78xv6269c/AACzUtroTFTDDsudbmCra57xa?dl=0
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Nice review! I didn't even know this case existed as I just picked up my Moto Z yesterday. I might have to take a look at this case as I to carry around a bag (I have for years) and one designed a little more for Moto Mods would be handy.
Also, do you know any good sources (besides Verizon that is...) for reviews of Moto Mods?
They seem to be slim due to the phone's lack of popularity...
Probably the best place would be right here. I have three mods (other than the back plates).
Projector: I have a bit more involved review of the projector in another thread. But the short version: Cool toy, but not really worth the price unless you do a LOT of presentations. Works okay in a dim room, needs a pretty dark room for things like movies an TV shows that aren't really bright. If you've got the extra cash lying around it's nice to have an works great if it's dark enough.
Battery Pack: Highly recommended if you're a power user or often away from an outlet for extended period of time. Wireless charging if a nice add on. Doesn't add a lot of thickness and some (myself included) keep it on all the time except when using other mods.
JBL Speakers: Great sound and really nice if you use your phone a lot for music. Probably more expensive than comparable BT speakers, but also nice to not have to worry about pairing, also has a battery but can draw from phone battery too, so, unlike a BT speaker, if you run out of battery but still have some in your phone, you're okay. The kickstand is nice too... I actually used the Speaker mod on a plane trip just for the kickstand!
this case looks cool
just re-read that, and it is a great review. i bought this case this week, it is pretty cool, just need more mods to fill it up
Got the case and love it
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