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Any recommended apps that increase battery life?
So far I only have setCPU.
Locale Beta saves much 12hrs of the day.
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Locale Beta saves much 12hrs of the day.
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What??
what does setcpu do? lower cpu clock?
Screebl, Advanced Task Manager, and SecCPU are an awesome battery-saving combination.
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what does setcpu do? lower cpu clock?
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Yes, but the best part is, you can set it to only lower the cpu clock when the phone is asleep (i.e., when the screen is off). Theoretically you could also overclock it when the screen is on, but not yet on the N1. On the G1/Dream, it was awesome--I overclocked when the screen was on, and underclocked when it was off. It saved battery AND made the phone faster at the same time. Here, it does nothing but save battery--a LOT of battery.
I don't have any problems with the battery.... it lasts me an entire day with pretty liberal use.
I just started using juice defender.. but it seems to slow the phone down at times... does anyone know of a similar app that is maybe more efficient
http://www.appbrain.com/app/juicedefender-battery-saver/com.latedroid.juicedefender
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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is it a free app?! OMG!
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Power manager and set cpu work for me. Power manager hasn't been updated in a while, but its still works and its pretty easy to use. Alternately, you can use Tasker, it has a high learning curve but once you get it, you'll get an entirely different level of performance from your phone.
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Yes, but the best part is, you can set it to only lower the cpu clock when the phone is asleep (i.e., when the screen is off). Theoretically you could also overclock it when the screen is on, but not yet on the N1. On the G1/Dream, it was awesome--I overclocked when the screen was on, and underclocked when it was off. It saved battery AND made the phone faster at the same time. Here, it does nothing but save battery--a LOT of battery.
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Actually you can overclock n1 when screen is on, it is set at 998 stock, but it can go higher 1113 is stable. But it depends on your kernel. I use 245/652 when screen is off, 384/1036 when on.
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Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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ROFL hilarious,
Due to juice defender slowing down my phone, i am going to try green power for a week then juice defender beta for a week and see how they work
juice defender beta seems to work the best
chowlala said:
Here's a good software:
It's called Turn Off your Phone. Saves as much as up to 1 month worth of battery!!
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Nice, it's more like a function to do than a app to utilize, fail.
This is my first Android phone (2nd device overall), I love it, it was my free upgrade option from AT&T, on number 2, the first, I completely bricked trying to upgrade to GB stock..... After I got the taste of flashing ROM's, thanks to TRusselo and his ninja skill, I find myself oriented towards the leaner ones because of memory issues, I run V6 Supercharger , SlimICS :victory:, with JRummy's ROM Toolbox Pro :good: (gotta support the kicka$$ apps), TB, blah blah blah.
My major complaint is that my Cap runs hot, I have OS Monitor on it because I got tired of not knowing the threshold. It bothers me that my phone gets over 110 degrees Fahrenheit , I've even had a brief history of random reboots I attribute to heat when I ran the ICSSGS 4.0.3 ROM (Awesome stuff, but once I bit into Slim, it was over). Is there a way to manage the heat or get a case for the phone that helps to manage the temperature? Or am I S.O.L unless I keep a frozen gel pack nearby?
BTW, first post, I surf the posts often and since I didn't see any questions about overheating for this particular Samsung model thought I'd give this a shot
My gets hot to I think it has to do with the kernel
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Mine runs really hot too, mine gf has a cappy and they run the same everything most of the time, but mine is the only one that gets stupid hot. Would love it to be fixed but I think its probably a manufacturing issue. Problem is it wears on the battery. 10-20 of use and you will burn your ear if you want to talk on the phone . The metal back certainly doesn't help either.
Primary reason why your cappy gets hot is because of overclocking if you're clock is high the process of the CPU is high and pay the price of higher battery consume. I'm on 1200 OC and it get's hot hen I'm playing HD games. I suggest that you stay on 1Ghz.
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Primary reason why your cappy gets hot is because of overclocking if you're clock is high the process of the CPU is high and pay the price of higher battery consume. I'm on 1200 OC and it get's hot hen I'm playing HD games. I suggest that you stay on 1Ghz.
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I have the max set at 1Ghz, min 600Mhz, Performance, SIO, I'm sure the fact that the temperature outside being over 100 F doesn't help at al. I have overclocked it before and it started smoldering, not literally, just felt like it.
I've literally taken damp cloth's and set them underneath the phone on occasion to see if that will help, it definitely does, so does setting the gel ice pack under it, so I have found ways around it. I would probably only trade this phone for one of the S3's, but this phone has definitely earned the top place among my favorite devices all time. It's just as tough as a Blackberry, and easier to use than an iPhone.
That's why LOL, 600MHz minimum and 1000MHz max, with performance gov, that keeps it at max clock all the time XD take that off OMG...
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That's why LOL, 600MHz minimum and 1000MHz max, with performance gov, that keeps it at max clock all the time XD take that off OMG...
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I'm still a NUB, lol, I don't deny it, but I'm all about learning the way of the Droid.... I added some of the Devil Helly Bean Add-On apk's into the Slim Bean, so I have my high points, just have the low ones just as often..
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Primary reason why your cappy gets hot is because of overclocking if you're clock is high the process of the CPU is high and pay the price of higher battery consume. I'm on 1200 OC and it get's hot hen I'm playing HD games. I suggest that you stay on 1Ghz.
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I have never knowingly oc my phone, it would get hot on GB even before I rooted and went to cm. 10-20 mins of web browsing brings my temps up to about 41 C (106 f) I am pretty new to this, where to I check my clock settings?
I'm running helly bean nightly s
I have switched batteries with my gf cappy so I'm pretty sure its not a battery issue
Maybe a bad/defective battery is the cause of the problem since there is no overclockin...???
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I have never knowingly oc my phone, it would get hot on GB even before I rooted and went to cm. 10-20 mins of web browsing brings my temps up to about 41 C (106 f) I am pretty new to this, where to I check my clock settings?
I'm running helly bean nightly s
I have switched batteries with my gf cappy so I'm pretty sure its not a battery issue
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With a metal back of cappy, it will easily heat up because it conducts heat in the metal. Based on my experience it is cause by the user usage depending on how high is the voltage/clock require of each app used to maintain it's smoothness and reached it's maximum clock. You can see your usage at Settings>Battery.
You can use CPU Spy or Voltage Control to see your OC and adjust it. You can check also in Settings> Performance >Processor.
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I'm still a NUB, lol, I don't deny it, but I'm all about learning the way of the Droid.... I added some of the Devil Helly Bean Add-On apk's into the Slim Bean, so I have my high points, just have the low ones just as often..
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Yeah, you'll learn in time, just try to search and read throughout the forums. I suggest that you lower your min to 100/200 and max to 1000/1200,
use smartassv2 and sio governor. This settings saves me some battery and to extent that still smooth, slick and good ui/gaming/app performance.
If you're on DEVIL KERNEL, go to recovery>devil>governor profile> tick SMOOTH.
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I'm still a NUB, lol, I don't deny it, but I'm all about learning the way of the Droid.... I added some of the Devil Helly Bean Add-On apk's into the Slim Bean, so I have my high points, just have the low ones just as often..
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Wasn't doggin' you dude, Just letting you know that could be the cause of your problem. Awhile ago I might have flamed you, I have matured and get that not everyone reads (not this situation), and I have to get used to that. People make mistakes, I know I do even if I wanna act like I don't. I am just helping around here now since I have gotten as much knowledge as the some of the users that joined XDA and other hacking forums in the beginning because I was always searching to find out ways to do it on my own, asking for help with stuff that no one talked about. So I am glad that I was able to help you in a way, sorta.
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Wasn't doggin' you dude, Just letting you know that could be the cause of your problem. Awhile ago I might have flamed you, I have matured and get that not everyone reads (not this situation), and I have to get used to that. People make mistakes, I know I do even if I wanna act like I don't. I am just helping around here now since I have gotten as much knowledge as the some of the users that joined XDA and other hacking forums in the beginning because I was always searching to find out ways to do it on my own, asking for help with stuff that no one talked about. So I am glad that I was able to help you in a way, sorta.
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Thank you both, b and takeout.... I know neither of you were doggin me, b-eock. I've been one of the behind the scenes types but I've seen a few of your posts, I know you know what you're talking about, I definitely appreciate the guidance. Truth be told, I know I'm still a nub here, but I know my way well enough, after you break something a few times, its only natural to pick up a few tricks along the way.
Yeah you'll learn something here just have the patience, experiment, test things out yourself to conclude and rather soon it'll be your hobby reading
And also help others out too.
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my gets hot sometimes too. im on helly bean latest 08/08/12 version, also battery gets sucked down quick, barely get 8 hrs and i do virtually nothing. ics cm9 was great on battery.
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my gets hot sometimes too. im on helly bean latest 08/08/12 version, also battery gets sucked down quick, barely get 8 hrs and i do virtually nothing. ics cm9 was great on battery.
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I know my battery is going quick on the SlimBean 2.0 ROM, but the heat issue still happens, I have noticed with my OS monitoring tool that it gets hotter if you have programs running constantly in background using up high CPU %. I was able to isolate a few of the programs as things I could remove, overall it does still run hot, but it's not as bad.
I use the free version of the OS Monitor on Play Store, you can set it to run under root and to autostart when the device is turned on.
Picked up an 1800 mah battery and my batty life is great! Going to bed with 40ish percent left
Haha, well let me know where you snagged that from
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try Smartassv2 gov and change your min from 600 to 100, then note the temps, or run a log of them.
typically my phone runs about 35° C (95° F) and that is with an otterbox commuter case on the phone. When the gps is on in the car, I use a vent mount to keep it at 40° or less, and never have to take the case off.
I read that higher temps, example 45°, really shorten battery life, and you wiil only get 200 charge cycles instead of 500 from the battery.
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Haha, well let me know where you snagged that from
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Amazon, was a great purchase, got an oem battery, there is a huge thread in the accessories section about the 1800 mah epic 4G battery that fits in the cappy
My s3 gets hot so fast. I'll be looking at tweets or browsing pulse and BAM. I don't even want to hold it, its so hot. Yes I am on a custom ROM, cm10 to be specific but this happens to me on stock as well. My governor setting are default for the rom, no custom kernels installed. What do you guya recommend? Should I return it and will vzw accept it?
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How hot is it getting? Actual temps I mean.
Install system tuner and that will give you cpu temps. I can't think off hand of any apps except wifi tether for root users that will give you a battery temp.
Before I got a case I thought my phone was getting way too hot, turns out it was no where near dangerous levels but it was hotter than other phones I've had. It's just a thing with the S3.
I'm not sure what could be wrong but just want to throw in that my phone does not get hot at all, it doesn't even get a little warm, and I use my phone quite a bit, pulse is one of my favorites, I play a couple games etc. I am stock but was running CM10 and my phone never got hot.
Sorry I couldn't help just wanted to let you know that simply using your phone shouldn't make it hot, not sure why yours is like that.
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What temperatures are in the "redzone" as far as the phone's safety. I'm Overclocked and will sometimes get up to about 120F, but have seen it get as high as 130 before.
To the OP, can you give us any numbers? I use System Tuner to find out mine.
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I'm not sure what could be wrong but just want to throw in that my phone does not get hot at all, it doesn't even get a little warm, and I use my phone quite a bit, pulse is one of my favorites, I play a couple games etc. I am stock but was running CM10 and my phone never got hot.
Sorry I couldn't help just wanted to let you know that simply using your phone shouldn't make it hot, not sure why yours is like that.
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The 4g is one of the biggest culprits for heat. My phone heats right up if I'm tethering or downloading directly. And I imagine there's a lots of back and forth data with Twitter along with the other browsing he mentioned.
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What temperatures are in the "redzone" as far as the phone's safety. I'm Overclocked and will sometimes get up to about 120F, but have seen it get as high as 130 before.
To the OP, can you give us any numbers? I use System Tuner to find out mine.
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Those temps are fine. If I have my phone plugged in and tethering I've seen low 150s. I usually try to cool it down at that point but just so it won't go higher. I've been told that 160f shouldn't hurt it.
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Those temps are fine. If I have my phone plugged in and tethering I've seen low 150s. I usually try to cool it down at that point but just so it won't go higher. I've been told that 160f shouldn't hurt it.
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Awesome! Thanks! My old laptop would often get up to almost 200, in fact it would idle around 180, but I was pretty sure the phones would withstand far less due to the fact that it is in a much smaller package and that there is no heatsink, I just wasn't sure how high it can go.
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Awesome! Thanks! My old laptop would often get up to almost 200, in fact it would idle around 180, but I was pretty sure the phones would withstand far less due to the fact that it is in a much smaller package and that there is no heatsink, I just wasn't sure how high it can go.
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A CPU is a CPU pretty much. The heatsink just helps keep the temp down. Equivalent of taking the back of our phone and putting a fan on it almost.
Critical temp is around 180. Our phones will automatically shut down
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Lol kindve dangerous if your not careful but I put my phone in a airtight zip lock back and ran cold water on the outside, cooled down pretty quickly. Dont let water touch the zip part of course, but maybe another option.
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How hot is it getting? Actual temps I mean.
Install system tuner and that will give you cpu temps. I can't think off hand of any apps except wifi tether for root users that will give you a battery temp.
Before I got a case I thought my phone was getting way too hot, turns out it was no where near dangerous levels but it was hotter than other phones I've had. It's just a thing with the S3.
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Thanks for the tip! i've been having the same concerns. I'll be downloading the system tuner software to keep an eye on the heat.
Noticed change to phones ability to take a charge
I had my phone get quite hot the other day after I switched to cleanrom 6.5 and now the phone doesn't want to take a charge like it did before. Could that be some indication of some damage done?
I didn't have the frame of mind to check the temp at the time. It was noticeable hot though. Even through the case.
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Lol kindve dangerous if your not careful but I put my phone in a airtight zip lock back and ran cold water on the outside, cooled down pretty quickly. Dont let water touch the zip part of course, but maybe another option.
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I would advise against that. at the very least use room temp water, not cold. sudden temp changes are never good. could induce cracking in the glass or other components
I just got 17-18k on antutu. Stock rom,stock kernel. With elementalx kernel i can reach 27k but it is still bad for elemental x. What's wrong with my phone ? i flashed factory image again nothing changed also i just noticed when i underclock my cpu to 1.7 ghz i'm getting 28k on antutu.
Thermal throttle
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Thermal throttle
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Firstly i don't need to tell you why i'm trying to get higher score but i will because you're talking too agresively with me without reason.I don't care about score. If every nexus 5 would be the same and get just 15k score including mine i would accept my phone with 15k. But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine. It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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Hmm you're right. Do you know a good one ? I got 28.8k now with elemental x kernel with "Undervolt" feature. To be honest i don't know how much is normal for a nexus 5 device with this kernel.
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine.
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No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
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If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
In normal usage; yeah it is fast But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
You don't need a score to see how powerful your phone is. It will breeze through most tasks just fine. "A little lag" on a graphically intense game is to be expected sometimes.
Gaming -> High CPU load -> heat -> thermal throttle -> bit of lag
Laws of physics
In normal usage; yeah it is fast
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This is the only real 'benchmark' which is actually important in normal day to day usage.
But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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Yes there is a reason we all get different scores, the same reason we all get different battery life. There are many variables, not least temperature and thermal throttling.
We have different number of apps installed and running at any one time, things syncing, mods, scripts, ROMs, kernels, all different. No two CPUs and Nexus 5s are exactly identical either. So therefore you get different 'scores'. Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
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It doesn't make any sense
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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Okey, i trust you. Since i just bought phone and didn't test it much really i won't test it or try to improve it for now.
The way a phone works doesn't lend itself well to benchmarks. That's why manufacturers like Samsung have traditionally "cheated" on benchmarks by ensuring maximum clock speeds are used when they detect a bench marking application.
If you want to maximize your benchmark scores you simply need to disable thermal throttling (or increase its limit) and also use optimized Dalvik copied from another device.
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This. Thermal throttle is a way to keep your phone regulated into normal temperatures specified by the device manufacturer. However, it's generally safe to raise it a bit, mine is set to 85.
aw man, its too bad i wasnt around earlier
After some inconsistent battery drain, I finally got around to doing some real world testing and found something interesting.
I did the test three ways. The first was to disconnect the AeroActive Cooler completely. The second was to connect the AeroActive Cooler with the fan turned off. The final test was to connect the AeroActive Cooler with the fan on (which runs when the screen is on). The shocking realization was that simply having it connected was draining nearly as much battery as leaving it enabled. Disconnecting the AeroActive Cooler almost quadrupled battery life.
Unfortunately, there is no way to enable the paddles without the fan running, which could at least justify some additional drain. Disabling the fan also disables the paddles, leaving the AeroActive Cooler completely disabled.
Since doing this test, I now disconnect the fan when the phone is not going to be used for gaming. The difference in battery life is impossible to miss. It is unfortunate there is no way to leave the fan connected that isn't practically powering it at max without a single rotation.
Note: These findings are for the AeroActive Cooler 5 and may not apply to previous or future models of the same hardware.
Interesting... Is that during gaming? Wasn't it the case that having the fan attached allows the phone to throttle later, leading to more power consumption? Don't have the fan myself, just thought it might be possible...
I can confirm this issue occurring on my Rog Phone 5 too. This explains why leaving it connected even while the phone is on sleep drains ~50% within 24 hours. Until recently, I typically leave the cooler connected because I'm concerned about frequently reconnecting and causing wear and tear.
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Interesting... Is that during gaming? Wasn't it the case that having the fan attached allows the phone to throttle later, leading to more power consumption? Don't have the fan myself, just thought it might be possible...
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I did the testing by checking the battery before and after letting it sit overnight. With the fan set to off, it shouldn't be adjusting any internal profiles. Even so, that would only mean that the fan should be enabled to prevent overheating. It shouldn't have any impact on idle because the fan is designed to not run with the screen off.
Edit: A little extra drain when idle is to be expected when the fan is enabled to support kicking on instantly. The problem is that in both idle and off states, the drain is almost as significant as having the fan rotating.
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I did the testing by checking the battery before and after letting it sit overnight. With the fan set to off, it shouldn't be adjusting any internal profiles. Even so, that would only mean that the fan should be enabled to prevent overheating. It shouldn't have any impact on idle because the fan is designed to not run with the screen off.
Edit: A little extra drain when idle is to be expected when the fan is enabled to support kicking on instantly. The problem is that in both idle and off states, the drain is almost as significant as having the fan rotating.
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in disobedience, check the current discharge jsk? i in aida64, try to measure this again but what values do you have in the aida64 battery discharge section it is in mA units
skorpicz said:
in disobedience, check the current discharge jsk? i in aida64, try to measure this again but what values do you have in the aida64 battery discharge section it is in mA units
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Ill have to try that later. I'm also curious what happens if I disable Armory Crate when it's connected.
I doubt there is a realistic fix as a user, but it would be nice to give Asus enough details to improve it (and pretend they'll listen).
twistedumbrella said:
Ill have to try that later. I'm also curious what happens if I disable Armory Crate when it's connected.
I doubt there is a realistic fix as a user, but it would be nice to give Asus enough details to improve it (and pretend they'll listen).
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one more question, can you eliminate the need to connect an Asus fan for mode x? or can I force mode x without connecting an Asus fan?
skorpicz said:
one more question, can you eliminate the need to connect an Asus fan for mode x? or can I force mode x without connecting an Asus fan?
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I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
twistedumbrella said:
I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
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so unlock bootloader and root?
My aeroactive cooler always connected to my rog 5 and I got 10-12 hours SOT (game & social media)
fan speed = high
full gaming = 5++ hours
ultra durable & low brightness DC dimming stay on all the time
Devaanp said:
My aeroactive cooler always connected to my rog 5 and I got 10-12 hours SOT (game & social media)
fan speed = high
full gaming = 5++ hours
ultra durable & low brightness DC dimming stay on all the time
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Screen on time doesn't really apply to this, though. It's trying to find out if having the fan connected and NOT in use is wasting battery.
it would not be better to find a way to get around the need to have an Asus fan for mode x, other coolers are more efficient
skorpicz said:
it would not be better to find a way to get around the need to have an Asus fan for mode x, other coolers are more efficient
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Other coolers also require the USB-C port, cannot be configured using the stock software, and aren't made to work with the proprietary design and cases.
twistedumbrella said:
Other coolers also require the USB-C port, cannot be configured using the stock software, and aren't made to work with the proprietary design and cases.
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so otherwise, can the game run without Asus fan x mode?
Aida64 confirms it. With the fan disconnected, Discharge Rate sits around 80 mA. Connecting the fan has no immediate impact, but once the toast appears that it connects, Discharge Rate jumps to around 125 mA with the fan off.
skorpicz said:
so otherwise, can the game run without Asus fan x mode?
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Games run without it.
twistedumbrella said:
Aida64 confirms it. With the fan disconnected, Discharge Rate sits around 80 mA. Connecting the fan has no immediate impact, but once the toast appears that it connects, Discharge Rate jumps to around 125 mA with the fan off.
Games run without it.
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sorry my bad english .... i mean force x mode without asus fan
skorpicz said:
sorry my bad english .... i mean force x mode without asus fan
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I would guess you mod Armory Crate or Game Genie (or both) to remove the restriction.
twistedumbrella said:
Hádal bych, že mod Armory Crate nebo Game Genie (nebo obojí) odstraníte omezení.
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?what
twistedumbrella said:
Hádal bych, že mod Armory Crate nebo Game Genie (nebo obojí) odstraníte omezení.
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Link?
skorpicz said:
Link?
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I don't think it's been done yet