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So I just rooted my phone today and I was wondering what are the next steps that I should take. Should I make a recovery file just in case my system crashes? If so, how would I do that? Secondly, do I have to flash a ROM to my rooted phone or may I just keep the stock version? If I decide to keep my stock version, would updates still happen automatically or would I have to unroot and then update? As you can see, I'm a noob at this.
well it seems that you've nearly got the hang of the rom manager so that's your backup problem solved, but it's not a good idea to backup your unrooted stock rom as when there is an over the air update it will reflash your rom to a rooted version
I would boot into recovery, probably Clockworkmod and do a backup. Then download Rom Manager or search the web for Roms and play around and see what one works best for you. I would leave kernels and radios alone for now until you play with flashing roms.
So I did a backup through rom manager lite version. I was thinking of flashing bb.01 but can I do that through rom manager, despite the fact that I have the free version? Also, when I wipe cache and data, I would lose my contact info right? So how would I recover my contacts after I install BuglessBeast? lastly, is it safe to flash a rom through the free version of rom manager because I had several attempts using backup ability on rom manager before it finally made a backup.
Hi,
Just ran Alpharevx on Linux on my phone and all seemed successful. I have a question though, I don't seem to have root...
Even though Clockworkmod is installed if I go into recovery, SetCPU and ROM Manager both state I do not have root permissions, is there an extra step I'm missing?
Hi, why don't simply install a custom rom. Many custom roms out there come with root, backup, task manager, OC and etc. Once you get a hang of it, you might want to try your own build.
verifunny said:
Hi, why don't simply install a custom rom. Many custom roms out there come with root, backup, task manager, OC and etc. Once you get a hang of it, you might want to try your own build.
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Thanks, any particular one you recommend that works well?
I myself think I'll go with this one. I like the stock experience so far, but with Sense 3.0 would be even better, especially since the "answer in my pocket" thing annoys the hell out of me (problem solved with Sense 3.0).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1122797
If you want a different experience then I don't know
You need to use gingerbreak. Search for it in the development section, its an app you run on your phone that installs root for you.
It may tell you that its not sure if it worked but that's normal, just reboot the phone and you will have root!
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Btrim14 said:
Hi,
Just ran Alpharevx on Linux on my phone and all seemed successful. I have a question though, I don't seem to have root...
Even though Clockworkmod is installed if I go into recovery, SetCPU and ROM Manager both state I do not have root permissions, is there an extra step I'm missing?
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To root your stock ROM then use Ginger Break you can download a free market app called root checker to see if you have root.
I'd recommend that you also take a backup of your existing stock rom using either CWM or through rom manager backup before you install a custom rom.
I'd also suggest that you install LBC MOD custom....but try them all and decide for yourself.
I'd also recommend that you install 4EXT recovery rather than CWM as its an improved easier to use version of CWM which is updated very often.
ben_pyett said:
To root your stock ROM then use Ginger Break you can download a free market app called root checker to see if you have root.
I'd recommend that you also take a backup of your existing stock rom using either CWM or through rom manager backup before you root.
I'd also suggest that you install LBC MOD custom....but try them all and decide for yourself.
I'd also recommend that you install 4EXT recovery rather than CWM as its an improved easier to use version of CWM which is updated very often.
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can i make a back up even if i am not rooted? how?
yerfdes said:
can i make a back up even if i am not rooted? how?
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Your quite right....you can't, I clearly was thinking straight.
I'll edit post above so as not to mislead.
Alpharevx installs clockworkmod recovery if you want.
With CWM you can make a full backup, the you can try some other ROMs. I am using virtuous unity and looks really well.
GermanDZ said:
Alpharevx installs clockworkmod recovery if you want.
With CWM you can make a full backup, the you can try some other ROMs. I am using virtuous unity and looks really well.
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Although, you won't be able to take a successful NANDROID backup even with CWM unless you have rooted your phone.
Hi all. My first post. I decided a couple weeks ago I wanted to root my G2x and started lurking here and reading up on the process. I Had Gingerbread installed so used One-Click NvFlasher to flash CWM 4.0.1.5 to my phone and then rooted the phone using a zip found in another thread. It was my first time rooting and I'm happy to say everything went fine.
I was playing around with ROM Manager and also installed CWM using it but decided until I have more time to spend checking out/installing ROMs I'm gonna stick with stock so I uninstalled it.
My questions are: do I now have two versions of CWM on my phone? Which version did ROM Manager install? If I boot into recover which one is loading, the one I installed with NvFlasher or the ROM Manager-installed one? And how do remove the one ROM Manager put there? I'd rather stick with just the one I installed using NvFlasher.
From what I understand, the ROM manager app doesn't really flash CWM on our phones, it fakes it. So, you've only got installed what you did through NVFlash.
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From what I understand, the ROM manager app doesn't really flash CWM on our phones, it fakes it. So, you've only got installed what you did through NVFlash.
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Yeah, I read about the fake flashing in the NvFlasher thread but didn't know what it meant fully. Seems like it means that you can only boot into the fake flashed one using ROM Manager. Other than that I wasn't sure what the implications of the fake flash were.
There's a clockwork mod folder on my phone's sdcard (internal - I don't use an external one). Is that the fake flash or the NvFlash one? I'd love to delete that folder if it's the ROM Manager one.
The "Clockworkmod" folder on your SD card is where the ROMs are backed up regardless of which version of Clockworkmod you used so don't delete that folder. The difference is when you boot into recovery using power + volume down you use the Clockworkmod Recovery on the phone's recovery partition you flashed with NVFlash. When you "reboot into recovery" using ROM Manager you boot into the so-called "fake flashed" version of Clockwordmod and it is not loaded from the physicial recovery partition on the phone; but from an image kept elsewhere in your phone's NAND memory. Don't worry about those images as leaving them won't harm anything and won't interfer with any OTA udpates if you are on a rooted stock rom. To get rid of it you simply want to uninstall ROM Manager from your device and then delete the "udpate.zip" file you will find in the root of the internal sd card. It is that update.zip that ROM Manager uses to trick recovery into loading the recovery images it stored elsewhere on your device. Now when you want to go into Clockworkmod Recovery just boot into recovery using power + volume down or the Reboot 2X app in the Market (link below). When the app says your device is not supported ignore it and press the back key (do not press the exit button) and then you can use that app to reboot into the real Clockworkmod Recovery without having to hold the buttons on the phone.
https://market.android.com/details?...wsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tYXhpc21hLmxnbzJ4cmVib290Il0.
Thanks, jboxer. I'd already uninstalled ROM Manager and just now deleted the update.zip. It seems like with CWM already flashed via NvFlasher I can backup my stock ROM and install any other ROM I can download so I don't really need ROM Manager unless I'm looking for something with an interface.
dmj2012 said:
Thanks, jboxer. I'd already uninstalled ROM Manager and just now deleted the update.zip. It seems like with CWM already flashed via NvFlasher I can backup my stock ROM and install any other ROM I can download so I don't really need ROM Manager unless I'm looking for something with an interface.
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You don't want ROM Manager, period, on our phone. It doesn't run recovery from the actual recovery partition and if you are borked you don't have a usable recovery to fix your phone unless you flashed with NV Flash anyway. I also don't like the way ROM Manger "boots" into recovery. It is actually invoking the stock recovery (or whatever recovery you may have flashed with NV Flash) and that then runs the update.zip file on the root of your internal sd. Since stock recovery is set to factory reset your phone when you invoke recovery, I worry that if the upate.zip got messed up you might wind up factory resetting your phone. I tried ROM Manager (which doesn't work until you use NV Flash at least once anyway) and booted from it into recovery once. It was scary enough for me I immediately uninstalled it and got rid of its bogus update.zip.
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You don't want ROM Manager, period, on our phone. It doesn't run recovery from the actual recovery partition and if you are borked you don't have a usable recovery to fix your phone unless you flashed with NV Flash anyway. I also don't like the way ROM Manger "boots" into recovery. It is actually invoking the stock recovery (or whatever recovery you may have flashed with NV Flash) and that then runs the update.zip file on the root of your internal sd. Since stock recovery is set to factory reset your phone when you invoke recovery, I worry that if the upate.zip got messed up you might wind up factory resetting your phone. I tried ROM Manager (which doesn't work until you use NV Flash at least once anyway) and booted from it into recovery once. It was scary enough for me I immediately uninstalled it and got rid of its bogus update.zip.
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Yeah, when I played with ROM Manager I really didn't like it, which is why I uninstalled it after playing around with it for five or ten minutes.
At this point I'm running stock GB on my phone, and I used Titanium Backup to remove the bloat (NOVA demo, T-mobile Mall and TV,) and the phone is running nice and smoothly. I'm a little confused about one thing though: Titanium backup is to backup apps/settings for this ROM, right? Whereas if I want to backup the ROM itself before putting CM7 on my phone I do that by booting into CWM and choosing the backup/restore option. Is my thinking here correct?
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Yeah, when I played with ROM Manager I really didn't like it, which is why I uninstalled it after playing around with it for five or ten minutes.
At this point I'm running stock GB on my phone, and I used Titanium Backup to remove the bloat (NOVA demo, T-mobile Mall and TV,) and the phone is running nice and smoothly. I'm a little confused about one thing though: Titanium backup is to backup apps/settings for this ROM, right? Whereas if I want to backup the ROM itself before putting CM7 on my phone I do that by booting into CWM and choosing the backup/restore option. Is my thinking here correct?
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Yes, but you should not have used Titanium Backup to remove bloat. That defeats one of the purposes of keeping the rom stock. Once the bloat is removed you can not get future OTA updates, if any. They will download but the install will fail as it checks for all original files have remained untouched. There are apps that can freeze bloat and when you get an OTA you unfreeze them so you can apply the OTA update. To backup the ROM you must go into Clockworkmod Recovery. Also I recomment other apps such as Astro for backing up apk files. In my experience, Titanium Backup just makes a mess of everything and usually the restores fail.
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Yes, but you should not have used Titanium Backup to remove bloat. That defeats one of the purposes of keeping the rom stock. Once the bloat is removed you can not get future OTA updates, if any. They will download but the install will fail as it checks for all original files have remained untouched. There are apps that can freeze bloat and when you get an OTA you unfreeze them so you can apply the OTA update. To backup the ROM you must go into Clockworkmod Recovery. Also I recomment other apps such as Astro for backing up apk files. In my experience, Titanium Backup just makes a mess of everything and usually the restores fail.
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My phone's never been able to connect to the servers for an ota update anyway. I'm not sure but maybe this is because I installed Gingerbread using LG's desktop app rather than waiting for t-mobile to push the update to me. In any cas, I am planning to flash a custom rom soon. Been thinking CM7 but that's just because it's the only once I know much about. I'm gonna start researching how to install it.
If I ever want to go back to stock after flashing a custom rom there are stock roms available for download, right?
Also what exactly does freezing an app do? I noticed Titanium can do it but is there another app I should look at for freezing an app?
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Also what exactly does freezing an app do? I noticed Titanium can do it but is there another app I should look at for freezing an app?
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Freezing an app makes it invisible to the system without deleting it. OTA updates requires that no system files have been deleted or changed. You can defrost them at any time and the system can see them again. It is a much preferred method over deleting for many reasons. Titanium Backup uses a different freeze method than other apps, and some other apps can freeze some programs that Titanium Backup cannot freeze, such as Amazon MP3. I use Bloat Freezer and some people I know use App Quarantine. They are free versions of both on the Android Market.
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Also what exactly does freezing an app do? I noticed Titanium can do it but is there another app I should look at for freezing an app?
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Anttek App Manager (free) from the market can freeze anything. Also has a couple of other nice features.
Hey I backed up my original gb before I did anything to the phone so as long as I restore that nandroid I will be fine to get updates right?
ROM Manager works fine even if you NVFlash a recovery.
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Anttek App Manager (free) from the market can freeze anything. Also has a couple of other nice features.
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Thanks man. I love this app. Very useful and a nice, clean layout. Sticking with this for my freezing needs.
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Also what exactly does freezing an app do? I noticed Titanium can do it but is there another app I should look at for freezing an app?
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When you freeze an app it acts for all intensive purpose just like it was removed (ROM will not see it, market won't see it, and any apps that rely on it won't see it either) but its still there.
Advantage to removing an app: frees up space
Disadvantage: harder it get it back, can cause problems, fc's
I have found that freezing is the way ta go..
I use mybackup pro from market works great and very easy to navigate
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I have looked really hard to find the answer to this, but I couldn't find it.
I have a HTC EVO Shift, which was already flashed to Boost Mobile before I bought it.
After looking at the Boot Animations and apps, I realized the phone was also running the MikShifted-G ROM.
I have been using the phone for some time now, but after I found that my phone was not getting the upgrade to ICS, I decided that I wanted to switch ROMs, especially ones that were ICS and stuff.
I followed many tutorials and I have done the following:
-I have rooted my phone.
-I have installed ROM Manager, and I have gotten ClockWorkMod to work.
-I backed up my data with the backup option.
Here are the questions I have:
-It says on most ROMS to "wipe everything." If I choose to Factory Reset/Wipe All in ClockWorkMod, will that un-flash my phone back to Sprint? I do not want to factory reset if my phone will not run on Boost Mobile, hence it is a lot cheaper.
-If I install another ROM and decide to go back to the ROM my phone used to have, does installing ROM Manager again on the new ROM allow me to use the backup I made to go back to how my phone used to be?
Thanks,
Sarcasticphoenix
I can't say for sure but doing a full wipe and flashing a ROM shouldn't have any affect on your phone working with boost. Search the EVO threads, I'm sure you'll find a lot of people on boost flashing various ROMs and kernels.
As far as actually flashing the ROM, you should get familiar with using recovery manually, not just relying on ROM manager to do everything for you. Here's a nice guide on how to flash ROMs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1266885. Be sure to make a nandroid backup before flashing any ROM (If you already made a backup using ROM manager it can be restored either via recovery or the ROM manager app.)
Also consider using Dread 7 Us's modified recovery. Based off Clockwork Mod but with some great differences: super wipe where you can choose which partitions to wipe and do it multiple times automatically(much less tedious than Clockword Mod's wipe each once method) and it also removes the ton of 'NO's' you have to scroll through to confirm an action in Clockwork Mod and others upgrades I don't recall.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...RECOVERY] CW-Enhanced [v1.1b] Updated 5/22/12
Flash it just like Clockwork Mod but do a nandroid before just in case. Make sure to also flash the updated one as the first version had MD5 check issues.
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if i put a rom into my phone and do a backup... can i go back to rooted stock and put another rom and i i dont like it restore to the other rom?
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if i put a rom into my phone and do a backup... can i go back to rooted stock and put another rom and i i dont like it restore to the other rom?
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As long as you have s-off nandroid restore will work fine. As far as the roms it depends on if the roms have the boost mobile apn's in them or not. A.F.A.I.K. CM7 roms and variants have the most apn support. Might want to do a search on google if cm7 supports boost or not.
I'm on a SCH-I535, with stock ROM (4.1.1), rooted and running CWM Premium and TWRP. I installed TWRP, second, on the recommendation of someone and it appears to be the default recovery. I have also installed mobil ODIN. Other utilities on my phone include: Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, Goo Manager, Titanium Backup Pro, VZW GS3 EZ Unlock, EZ Recovery, Superuser Elite, SuperUser SU.
I know some of these are duplicative, but as a N00B I just follow the directions and use whatever application I'm directed to use.
Does having apps like this cause conflict problems? Should I generally uninstall or freeze those utilities that are duplicative and in disuse?
Thanks,
Michael
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I'm on a SCH-I535, with stock ROM (4.1.1), rooted and running CWM Premium and TWRP.
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Do you mean rom manager premium? CWM is only the recovery so this is a little confusing to read. If you mean rom manager, GooManager is probably better for you since many roms are easily downloadable from there if you so choose.
I installed TWRP, second, on the recommendation of someone and it appears to be the default recovery. I have also installed mobil ODIN. Other utilities on my phone include: Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper, Goo Manager, Titanium Backup Pro, VZW GS3 EZ Unlock, EZ Recovery, Superuser Elite, SuperUser SU.
I know some of these are duplicative, but as a N00B I just follow the directions and use whatever application I'm directed to use.
Does having apps like this cause conflict problems? Should I generally uninstall or freeze those utilities that are duplicative and in disuse?
Thanks,
Michael
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For me, I don't use Vodoo or Mobile Odin, although I do need to purchase Mobile Odin to support Chainfire since his work has helped me. Voodoo may come in hand for you if you want to keep root after future OTAs. GooManager and Titanium are indispensable, every new rooted user should definitely use TB. EZ Unlock and EZ Recovery are useless once you're unlocked and rooted so uninstall those.
You need to choose a SU app though. Either SU Elite or SuperSU, can't have both. Figure out which one you like best and make sure it has root BEFORE uninstalling the other.
Thanks for the thorough response. It'll help me get my head wrapped around this.