Note Pro BAD graphics? - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
As the title is saying, the graphics performance on this 800€ tab is TOO BAD.
I have the exynos version, so I don't know How the snapdragon version is.
Any suggestions? Any experiences? Asphalt 8 is unplayable!:banghead: It runs much better on an single cone device! Do you think Samsung will ever do something?
Lots of regards, prohackerbro
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Bad on asphalt 8 yes, the high settings seem to practically bring the exynos processor to its knees while on asphalt 7 game play is buttery smooth. Whether gameloft will do any further optimization for this tablet remains to be seen. I'm not a gamer so I could care less but I feel for those who expect high performance from a tablet this expensive. It sure would be nice to play games on a large screen device like this using a game controller.
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muzzy996 said:
Bad on asphalt 8 yes, the high settings seem to practically bring the exynos processor to its knees while on asphalt 7 game play is buttery smooth. Whether gameloft will do any further optimization for this tablet remains to be seen. I'm not a gamer so I could care less but I feel for those who expect high performance from a tablet this expensive. It sure would be nice to play games on a large screen device like this using a game controller.
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You mean that gameloft must do something? I think its more caused from the high resolution... And the gpu cant handle it...
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You mean that gameloft must do something? I think its more caused from the high resolution... And the gpu cant handle it...
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I would suspect it's the game not being optimized to run on the hardware. I can think of a handful of other games with great graphics that have no trouble running on this tablet. I would think if it was the hardware, those high detail games would have issues too.
That and gameloft has kinda been slow to update its games for newer hardware. I can think of a couple of their games that had issues with new devices, took them months to release a update, after that the games ran well.

Yup. Certainly the resolution will be an issue too but again, the game developer has to make adjustments to account for it.
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prohackerbro said:
Hi,
As the title is saying, the graphics performance on this 800€ tab is TOO BAD.
I have the exynos version, so I don't know How the snapdragon version is.
Any suggestions? Any experiences? Asphalt 8 is unplayable!:banghead: It runs much better on an single cone device! Do you think Samsung will ever do something?
Lots of regards, prohackerbro
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This is an example of a game badly optimized for the exynos. The exynos is almost identical to the snapdragon in terms of power and performance however snapdragon gets more dev love. Any game that is properly optomized though will look gorgeous on this tablet and play very well. I havent had any game iv chosen to install play any less than fantastically. If you want c ok ntact the devs of asphalt and ask for it to be fixed. It isnt samsungs fault. Snapdragons have lte built in so it was more effective to go with the exynos for the wifi model.
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XCOM Enemy Unknown is another example of bad optimization on Exynos devices. Low fps, stutter and lots of crashing.
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I'll be getting my P905 (the snapdragon version) tomorrow, I'll be sure to give you feedback on this matter when I get the time.

I find this rather funny, because the Note 3 Exynos has exactly the same problem.. As does the S4 Exynos..... And from both the Snapdragon device has no issues at all.
Lesson to be learned here: Don't buy a device with an Exynos if there's a Snapdragon edition as well.

I've never had any problems with any Exynos-based chip. That said, the Snapdragon version is always better IMHO.

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Lag in games, software issue or hardware issue ?

I keep reading about the one xl lagging seriously in games, but that was on launch, was this fixed or was it really a hardware thing? I post on Internet say the gpu is not very power and what is probably causing the lag
Also is the battery life really better than the international one x? as you can assume in torn between getting the lte version or the international version
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I haven't run into any lag problems in any games I've played so far (ranging from GTA III to Angry Birds Space). The GPU in the XL is actually quite powerful, the Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 is quite peppy.
On my AT&T version, I find some lag on Words with Friends and also the Farsight Pinball app. I think it is due to their app coding needing to be updated to work better with ICS though and not due to poor phone hardware. Battery life is slightly better than my SGS2 in my opinion.
I get lag frequently while playing Baseball Superstars 2012. I didn't have this problem at all on my rooted Rezound on ICS.
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I found that with a modified host file [AdBlocker] games like Baseball Superstars are laggy before I went to 1.85. However, It is possible its not 100% compatible with our phones yet. Some tethering apps aren't :/ Or weren't when I checked.
I'll disable Adfree later tonight and give it a go. Thanks!
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stormz said:
On my AT&T version, I find some lag on Words with Friends and also the Farsight Pinball app. I think it is due to their app coding needing to be updated to work better with ICS though and not due to poor phone hardware. Battery life is slightly better than my SGS2 in my opinion.
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I don't think it's ics's fault or the lack of optimization for it, my Galaxy Nexus has no issues with games, I think perhaps games for the s4 gpu haven't been optimized or indeed the gpu is not powerful enough to run games at 720p
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Dunno if this applies to us, but I saw this on the main site:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/get-rid-of-occasional-game-lag-on-the-htc-one-x/
No issue with mine, and yes, the battery life is longer on the XL

Tegra 3 games are so enticing...

I know we have the more battery efficient (and in a lot of areas more powerful) chipset, but everytime I look at those Tegra only games I get jealous. I mean is there a possibility our chipset will be able to produce the same quality of graphics when these games are released for the Tegra devices? I would hate to have to trade up over something so trivial, but I really like to game.
I'm thinking that the battery life can be greatly improved on the Tegra devices with custom ROMs and Kernels. I mean the new Nexus tab has a Tegra, so it must be a reliable piece.
Thoughts?
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I know we have the more battery efficient (and in a lot of areas more powerful) chipset, but everytime I look at those Tegra only games I get jealous. I mean is there a possibility our chipset will be able to produce the same quality of graphics when these games are released for the Tegra devices? I would hate to have to trade up over something so trivial, but I really like to game.
I'm thinking that the battery life can be greatly improved on the Tegra devices with custom ROMs and Kernels. I mean the new Nexus tab has a Tegra, so it must be a reliable piece.
Thoughts?
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Keep the better phone and buy a Nexus 7.
Our phone vs Tegra 3 version
Better battery life
LTE
Superior sound quality
Less build quality issues
gunnyman said:
Keep the better phone and buy a Nexus 7.
Our phone vs Tegra 3 version
Better battery life
LTE
Superior sound quality
Less build quality issues
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I'm researching right now if the s4 will be capable of pumping out similar quality when the game dev's optimitze for our chipset.
gunnyman said:
Keep the better phone and buy a Nexus 7.
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This.
Out phone was the first phone with the S4, you need to give developers the time.
A TON of phones, including the Stateside Galaxy S III will be having the same chipset/gpu as ours, and developers will not want to miss out on such a huge population.
I have some tegra games on my phone. I use chainfire3d to trick the play store and get to download and play the games
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I have some tegra games on my phone. I use chainfire3d to trick the play store and get to download and play the games
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How well do they run?
I can't wait to get my Nexus 7. Tegra 3 games on a 7" screen are going to be seriously amazing. I really hope Gameloft releases Nova 3 for it, because it is seriously the best FPS ever made for mobile devices. It already kicks ass on my One X, it will be bad ass on the Nexus 7.
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Just order the Nexus 7 and use it as a gaming device. Problem solved
_MetalHead_ said:
I can't wait to get my Nexus 7. Tegra 3 games on a 7" screen are going to be seriously amazing. I really hope Gameloft releases Nova 3 for it, because it is seriously the best FPS ever made for mobile devices. It already kicks ass on my One X, it will be bad ass on the Nexus 7.
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im kinda anti tegra i guess...since i have a tegra 2 7inch tab that nvidia pretty much forgot about once teg3 was concieved. and games were glitchy as hell.
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[Q] Advice needed

Hey guys and girls, I've been contemplating this for a few days now, after the google keynote that nexus 7 has caught my eye. As it has many other people on this forum. I really want to pre order it, my main interest in the device is its gaming potential. Should I sell my galaxy note to buy this device? It would replace my note for the things I use it for, which are gaming and web browsing in the house. I also have an iPad 2 which is good for gaming but it's too darn big for N.O.V.A 3 ect.
Ps the reason I can't just buy it is because I have no cash.
Are you going to miss the screen size? the notes a monster man
bennykudos said:
Are you going to miss the screen size? the notes a monster man
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Well I suppose I would, but i want performance, and the up to date device, I can still carry the nexus around with me though, so I'd be basically getting a bigger and more powerful note.
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Check this Caparison and see if you can decide Google-Nexus-7, Samsung GALAXY Note
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Check this Caparison and see if you can decide Google-Nexus-7, Samsung GALAXY Note
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If you were in my situation what would you do?
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The Nexus 7 is a great tablet with better cpu and gpu than the note but if you use it for large graphically strong games you could find its lack of sd card slot a problem as a lot of high end games can use four or five hundred megabytes of data and so a collection of them could use up eight gig which is the lower priced model.
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mistermentality said:
The Nexus 7 is a great tablet with better cpu and gpu than the note but if you use it for large graphically strong games you could find its lack of sd card slot a problem as a lot of high end games can use four or five hundred megabytes of data and so a collection of them could use up eight gig which is the lower priced model.
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I would definatly buy the 16gb version. I have a 16gb ipad and that has a lot of high graphic games with enough room left for more. So apart from that, do you think its worth the swap?
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Jonnyn93 said:
I would definatly buy the 16gb version. I have a 16gb ipad and that has a lot of high graphic games with enough room left for more. So apart from that, do you think its worth the swap?
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I know someone doing the same so yes, it would be a trade up to bigger screen better processor and of course nfc. For games its much better as it can use tegra 3 optimised games, but also it will be a better experience on a bigger screen when gaming than on the note.
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need help choosing a tablet

so as the title says I need helping picking a tablet right now im looking at the note10.1 nexus 10 and the Asus tf700 resolution is not the most imporant to me im looking mainly.for speed and preformance. for gaming and such anyone have hands on with the tablets that can help? I also want no lag in the home screen I know some devices lag when going through pages on home
screen
I think you should go with nexus 10
It has a great resolution ( I think the best out there) and the samsung exynos 5 chip, though a dual core but a beast. Plus you'll also be one of the firsts to get the latest android!
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NiCk.JaY said:
I think you should go with nexus 10
It has a great resolution ( I think the best out there) and the samsung exynos 5 chip, though a dual core but a beast. Plus you'll also be one of the firsts to get the latest android!
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exactly its a dual core go in reality isn't the galaxy faster with its quad Core? I don't care about resoultion I Care about Power and speed which ;g why I bought the galaxy note 2
Well,
more cores doesn't directly means that it has to be faster 100%. Apps need to be coded properly so they are scaling good with more cores, and I think all you will get is just more points in some Benchmarks, thats all.
cows0136 said:
exactly its a dual core go in reality isn't the galaxy faster with its quad Core? I don't care about resoultion I Care about Power and speed which ;g why I bought the galaxy note 2
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Actually its dual core is better than a quad-core cause it has a different architecture, for overall smoothness I will suggest you the nexus 10 but for gaming I wouldnt go for this cause the resolution will kill all the performance in games(cause the gpu is not good enough) and expect poor support for tablet on android.
If you really care about gaming I suggest you an iPad 4 as it has great and more optimised games plus it also has the best gpu on any portable devices such tablets and smartphones.
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cows0136 said:
so as the title says I need helping picking a tablet right now im looking at the note10.1 nexus 10 and the Asus tf700 resolution is not the most imporant to me im looking mainly.for speed and preformance. for gaming and such anyone have hands on with the tablets that can help? I also want no lag in the home screen I know some devices lag when going through pages on home
screen
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FWIW, the versatility of the TF700 w/ the keyboard dock is very unique. It has replaced my laptop for sure. But, out-of-the-box performance was lacking. However, there are some excellent devs on here for it, which have negated any lag/performance issues.
That said, I was going to wait for the Nexus 10. The TF700 was a gift. I wouldn't trade
mr.wizard said:
FWIW, the versatility of the TF700 w/ the keyboard dock is very unique. It has replaced my laptop for sure. But, out-of-the-box performance was lacking. However, there are some excellent devs on here for it, which have negated any lag/performance issues.
That said, I was going to wait for the Nexus 10. The TF700 was a gift. I wouldn't trade
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I notice no one is talking about the note 10.1. so basically to make my tf700 any good F world have to hack it? doesn't seem very good I have a note 2 and Out of box was flawless as for Ipad I am not a fan OF Apple products so I need an android tablet,
cows0136 said:
I notice no one is talking about the note 10.1. so basically to make my tf700 any good F world have to hack it? doesn't seem very good I have a note 2 and Out of box was flawless as for Ipad I am not a fan OF Apple products so I need an android tablet,
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I don't suggest you to buy the tf700, tegra 3 is old now...
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batna.antab said:
I don't suggest you to buy the tf700, tegra 3 is old now...
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So its not good? I Just hate Apple and the nexus has no expandable memory and You said its Gpu is no good, I do intend to Play games
cows0136 said:
So its not good? I Just hate Apple and the nexus has no expandable memory and You said its Gpu is no good, I do intend to Play games
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The gpu is good on the n10 but just not for that easy resolution, I'd suggest you to wait for a tegra 4 device....
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batna.antab said:
The gpu is good on the n10 but just not for that easy resolution, I'd suggest you to wait for a tegra 4 device....
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if I wait prices will be high and then might as well waif for a tegra5. and the devices out Now Out Came out not to long ago the current tablets can't be all that bad.
I wish a Store had them all for me to try them all
Nexus 7.. best size for portability and viewing. awesome support for operating systems - google android, google chromium os, ubuntu BY canonical. I wish that I had figured out that the Nexus 7 was going to have this sort of support before getting my archos 80g9
Nexus 10 is really nice
I suggest it ;D
enzofear said:
Nexus 10 is really nice
I suggest it ;D
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. Why do you Suggest it?
Please ask such questions in the device suggestion thread.
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Please ask such questions in the device suggestion thread.
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Alrighty thank you sorry for posting in the wrong location

Chip configuration, lag?

I want this phone. Badly. I have a ONE, and really dig it but battery is its downfall. I'm curious to see how this phone performs with this chip set. I am not a gamer, with exception of angry birds, but use the dog out of my phone on Internet, watching videos, etc. I'm thinking I won't be able to see a difference in 720 screen, but am curious if there is discernable lag with lack of processing power. Anyone's opinions are appreciated.
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Performance is fine. Don't sweat it. It's a fast, modern processor.
Cool. Just cautious on the first model of any new tech
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To be honest the other vendors are adding so much crap on top of android that they need the extra power. As you can see the extra power doesn't really help because even the gs4 lags. Moto did a great job of taking hardware and building software that works specifically for it. It shows how powerful a phone can be without all the extra gimmicks and cores... This phone is a beast. I would like to see any phone be as fluent as this one minus an iPhone.
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To be Honest, I just cam from a s4 and believe it or not, I havent had an lag or stuttering from the ultra like I did with the s4. Besides the camera. I think the ultra is a better phone. I cant tell the difference between the 1080p and the 720p screens.
I have experienced exactly 0 lag since I bought the phone last weekend with heavy web usage. It feels snappier than my nexus 4.
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