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[Q] How to painlessly move from Nexus One to Nexus S

I just bought the Nexus S, but I fear the process of importing all my apps and settings from the N1 to the NS. I have about 80 apps, approx 20 paid apps and 20gb used on the external 32Gb memorycard. Of course, I will need to trim down the data amount to lower than 16Gb that is available on the NS. All of the apps that can, are installed on the SD card.
I have both a regular gmail account and a paid Google Apps account that are synked with my N1
So, must I set aside a whole working day manually re-installing all apps and reenter licence codes & settings & synk settings, or can I simple log in to the new phone and experience - like magic - that everything is transferred wirelessly? (I would consider believing in Santaclaus if that happened)

i moved from hero to nexus s and had the same problem, i used titanium backup to restore most of my apps+data, it will automatically link the apps to the market and install them on the next best place (for example it was on ext on my hero but got moved to internal on my nexus s)
but rom-/systemapp-settings had to be reentered manually because the rom got corrupted when i tried to restore my settings (for example google account)
hope this could help you out a bit.

I've gone through 4 phones and my paid apps have followed me. The non paid apps don't though. I definitely recommend Titanium Backup for those as well. Especially if you have game saves or something. I don't mind re-entering information for like connecting to my server but game saves that would piss me off to lose.
The free version I think you have to restore them individually but the paid version you can do them all at once I believe. Coming from the same android version always helps this process too.

Google login on the new phone should push a lot of stuff to the phone, but you might need to make sure the setting on the Nexus One to back up your setigns on the cloud/mothership is turned on. It's not been 100% reliable for me in the past moving from one phone to another.
Agreed with the others who suggest Titanium, it's been a life-saver.
We're assuming you're rooted, because to use Titanium, you must be rooted. Also, get the paid version, it's under $5 and adds a lot of functionality, like batch restore of all your apps.
On caveat when moving from one phone to another (or even one ROM to another) is that when you restore with Titanium, you just want to restore apps + app data...you don't want to restore system settings, this could, supposedly, lead to some trouble.

i see this asked a lot, but i must be confused. i thought that anytime you sign into an android phone with your account, all free and paid apps you have automaitically download to the phone, simply by signing in. i know when i completely wipe my phone, sign in upon boot up, and all apps return like i never even wiped. i can watch them install one by one over a 15 min period.
even my wallpaper gets saved to google's server, and placed back onto the phone as my wall paper. most settings too.
the one thing you will not have saved are texts, oh and any app-specific data from the old phone.

Your app history is tied to the sign in account (free and paid).
The data/settings for the applications is the issue at hand. Some developers sync the data to cloud services, some don't. For the latter you must to the titanium backup deal to move stuff or copy the sd card contents. Some devs opt to just create a folder on the sd card.
Most google applications (obviously) sync data/settings to the cloud. They offer devs a service to do the same. As more devs use it or their own you'll be able to seemlessly switch from device to device withou a hassle.

if i didn't want to use titanium is it as simple as zipping up the content on the nexus one's sd card and then somehow importing all contents (app data, etc) on to the nexus S?
then after that reinstall any apps that i have downloaded or bought?

racker said:
if i didn't want to use titanium is it as simple as zipping up the content on the nexus one's sd card and then somehow importing all contents (app data, etc) on to the nexus S?
then after that reinstall any apps that i have downloaded or bought?
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Yep, it's pretty much that simple.

Moving apps to SD, and flashing new ROMs..

I have moved all the apps I have that let me, to my SD card through the stock systems menu>settings>manage applications>Move to SD options.
I want to flash a new ROM. After flashing the ROM. Will all the data for those apps carry over? Is there anything that needs to be done to get them to work? Or will I boot up with the new ROM and go to app drawer and all the apps will still be there working just fine?
Also, when people talk about restoring apps, not data, I'm not quite sure how this works......
I have MyBackup Pro/Root version. Is App Data the data that is not supposed to be restored? From my understanding, that is what, for example, keeps the progress I have made in a game. Otherwise I have to start over. (And I JUST fully upgraded my level 10 car in Drag Racing! Ha ha).
Any help would be appreciated. Tried searching but didn't find anything related exactly to this. Well I did find one thread, but the OP fixed and and simply stated he fixed it, not how.

generally when people are talking about restoring user apps+data and not system data, they are referring to Titanium Backup which is the de facto in backup/restore, and there are options when restoring. you never restore system data or system apps, but any user apps+data is ok to restore.
i dont know about anything related to apps on SD. i NEVER use it.

Moving all your apps to the sd card is a waste of time. It will do nothing for you. It will not save your app data. Best to leave them on the phone. Backup your user apps and apps data as Pirateghost suggested with Titanium. Wipe the phone, install your new ROM and use titanium to restore your apps and apps data only. Do not backup or restore any system apps. Unless titanium backup has changed it will not restore apps MOVED to the sd card to the sd card. It will restore them on the phone's memory. That is why I suggest keeping your apps on the phone's internal memory.

Ah. Guess I should not believe the benefits flaunted around all the App 2 SD card things. I think it was that APP2SD App that says it frees up available phone memory when you move apps from phone to SD. Made sense to me..
I guess the phone has some space set aside for it's "RAM"? And no apps will be able to use that as storage space?
I'll move the stuff back then before I do the backup. Also, when I first started with Android and modding it, I bought MyBackup Pro. Does Titanium Backup do something better/different?

Titanium will also backup the app data. Example: game saves.

OK good to know. I'll probably buy that then.
Last question then with TB. When you restore apps with it, will it keep track in market that it's installed? I remember when I restored with MyBackup Pro, those apps were not listed under "My Apps" in market place, and didn't show as "installed" in market place, and therefore would not update. I had to uninstall them and install from market anyway... Does TB take care of things on that end?

the only time I used app 2 SD card is for the memory,sure some apps are like 2+mbs but it helps to move apps 2 Sd card to save from internal memory.. thats all.
I use Titanium back up and I just do a back up here and there.. and I just re flashed a rom and it just restored all my apps again. But also if you have (which im sure you do) Rom manager just do a ROM back up/System back whatever you want to call it. Its always good to do.

GTIVRon said:
OK good to know. I'll probably buy that then.
Last question then with TB. When you restore apps with it, will it keep track in market that it's installed? I remember when I restored with MyBackup Pro, those apps were not listed under "My Apps" in market place, and didn't show as "installed" in market place, and therefore would not update. I had to uninstall them and install from market anyway... Does TB take care of things on that end?
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yes, Tibu takes care of that for you. there is even a 'market doctor' built in that will scan apps and add stuff to market for you

CYRAXDroid said:
the only time I used app 2 SD card is for the memory,sure some apps are like 2+mbs but it helps to move apps 2 Sd card to save from internal memory.. thats all.
I use Titanium back up and I just do a back up here and there.. and I just re flashed a rom and it just restored all my apps again. But also if you have (which im sure you do) Rom manager just do a ROM back up/System back whatever you want to call it. Its always good to do.
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You mean running out of internal storage space? Or was it taking a chunk out of the RAM memory?
Pirateghost said:
yes, Tibu takes care of that for you. there is even a 'market doctor' built in that will scan apps and add stuff to market for you
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Thanks! I'll definitely buy it now..

Looking for a better backup software

Here is the issue. I use Titanium at the moment. I have many apps installed on my phone; so many that I HAVE to use the sd card for quite a few.
Now when I install a new ROM it creates a problem. I can't just use Titanium to install my apps in one batch step since Titanium only installs to the phone by default. I have to select about half. Then move them over to the sd card manually. Then go back and select some more. Then move them to the card. And then do the same with the last remaining apps. This tends to take some time to do and is a real pain.
Is there a backup software that will install everything as it was when it was backed up? If they were originally on the sd card then I want those apps to restore to the card by default. Is there anything like that?

I use Tom tool box pro and I'm pretty sure when you restore it restores everything account info themes all that stuff
In the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro
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Thanks for responding. Restoring account info and especially themes can cause issues jumping between ROMs. Would never do that. But does it restore apps originally on the sd card back on the sd card; or does it install everything on phone? That is all I care to know about.

Not sure what app would do what you want, but I put the word out there with the dev of ROM Cleaner.
His script backs up all your apps, wifi/BT/mail accounts and re-installs them before the first boot is even initiated. It also deletes unwanted apps/widgets that come with most sense ROMs. The great thing is if you dont want to delete all the apps and widgets that his script deletes, you can make it to where it won't. its very customizable in that aspect. Edit: You have to run a separate script to restore the wifi/BT/mail accounts, which you obviously don't need to if you don't want.
Check out his thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050283
Patraics is a nice guy and VERY quick to respond to any questions you may have. I posted the question not even 5 minutes ago and already got a response saying that he will look into it.
EDIT: Because of his scripts, i don't even use TB anymore. His way is easier and less time consuming.

I'll have to look into it. I like Titanium backup with everything it does. But I don't know why it is so difficult for it to restore aps to the same location where they backed them up from. Going to send a suggestion to TB too.

Agoattamer said:
I'll have to look into it. I like Titanium backup with everything it does. But I don't know why it is so difficult for it to restore aps to the same location where they backed them up from. Going to send a suggestion to TB too.
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TB does have some useful features, like freezing and uninstalling system apps. But realistically, if you arent going to use those system apps anyways, you can just have ROM Cleaner delete them before they even get the chance to be fully installed.
On the other hand, TB also does things that as flashaholics, we don't want it to do, like backup app data that can mess up a fresh flash. which is why I don't use it.
Although it does suck having to start angry birds from the beginning every time I find a new daily driver.... lol
Just an FYI though, IF you do decide to go ahead with ROM Cleaner, when it backs up your apps, it doesnt compress them or anything like that, it puts them all in a folder and then just leaves them there, leaving you to do the clean up, if you don't want those back ups to be there anymore.

Try my backup root

muneebrocks said:
Try my backup root
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Why? Does it do what I asked?

My Backup Pro
For backing up apps I have found My Backup Pro to be very simple. Will backup all apps & media and or data. Also had freeze, unfreeze, wipe cache and wipe data capabilities. Curious why storing all apps on system instead of S.D. card at all? Will take up all of your storage space on system and slow your system down. Also if connecting to desktop only have access to S.D. card so that also limits your accessibility to your apps.

Tbo haven't have an issue of apps not going to SD with titanium backup. Exp, my xda app is on the SD and when I restore its back to SD. Dunno how but ill look and see
Sent from my CM7 Nightly HTC Desire HD

Agoattamer said:
Here is the issue. I use Titanium at the moment. I have many apps installed on my phone; so many that I HAVE to use the sd card for quite a few.
Now when I install a new ROM it creates a problem. I can't just use Titanium to install my apps in one batch step since Titanium only installs to the phone by default. I have to select about half. Then move them over to the sd card manually. Then go back and select some more. Then move them to the card. And then do the same with the last remaining apps. This tends to take some time to do and is a real pain.
Is there a backup software that will install everything as it was when it was backed up? If they were originally on the sd card then I want those apps to restore to the card by default. Is there anything like that?
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Titanium does what you ask. You just need to adjust your settings. Go to preferences>restoration location and chose "original location" instead of the default setting that allows titanium to choose.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Inspire 4G using XDA Premium

lorawithano said:
Titanium does what you ask. You just need to adjust your settings. Go to preferences>restoration location and chose "original location" instead of the default setting that allows titanium to choose.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Inspire 4G using XDA Premium
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That makes me feel so much like a NOOB. I have mentioned this in a few places on XDA and other forums. I have yet to have one person mention that there was a setting in the preferences. I swear it was not there the last time I looked but that was.....well quite some time ago. Thanks so much for bringing it to my attention. Noticed that there were many other new selections in there too. I guess I had the better backup software all along.

[Q] Quick question about TiBu

Hi all, I just had a quick question about TiBu... since I just started recently flashing nightlies and what not I've had to rely on it to keep my apps safe, but I was wondering if it stores the location of the app and will restore it appropriately? I need some apps to stay on the sdcard because of very limited system storage with the roms I'm using. Thanks
edit: Well, in case anyone is wondering, it doesn't. Just did a batch restore on a fresh CM10 install and it put all it could on internal storage, however it did move a few that wouldn't fit automatically to the sdcard. It's too bad, I doubt it would be much work to save where the app was stored... oh well.

Help migrating data from old device

So I just got a Note20 Ultra and had a Note 9. I used smart switch and samsung cloud to transfer everything. The apps transferred fine, but none of the app data did.
I was able transfer everything to my Tab S7+ just fine, and it even syncs with my apps. Like if I make it to another level of a game on the Note 9 it will carry over to the tab. Why isn't it doing that with the Note20?

May not work well with different devices and especially OS's.
Never use it to store critical data.
Apparently it does not save secure folder data.
If it doesn't work right you may need to do a factory reset and hand load.
I use it to save homepage settings, contacts and not much more. I load app from saved copies. A clean load can last a year or longer, a bad load won't.

blackhawk said:
May not work well with different devices and especially OS's.
Never use it to store critical data.
Apparently it does not save secure folder data.
If it doesn't work right you may need to do a factory reset and hand load.
I use it to save homepage settings, contacts and not much more. I load app from saved copies. A clean load can last a year or longer, a bad load won't.
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It's the same OS though, on all devices. It's just not syncing the app data correctly, and helium is outdated now

link1227 said:
It's the same OS though, on all devices. It's just not syncing the app data correctly, and helium is outdated now
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Apps that allow backup like Poweramp, ColorNote, Digi Clock are hard or impossible to recreate. Fortunately they allow for complete backup. The lesser apps I don't worry about.
Homepage settings however are a pain and can't be completely backed up. I keep a image of my favorite icon pack from Galaxy store so I can easily search for it. Shortcuts need to be recreated. SmartSwitch will partially recreate homepage but loses the icon pack, icon/folder position and so on.
Use your SD card as a data drive; all critical data and backups go here. Redundantly back this up to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your apps and app updates; no Playstore needed for a reload. Do not encrypt data drives, ever... or you will lose data eventually.
Only loaded apps, the DCIM and download folder go on internal memory. Regularly backup the DCIM folder to the data drive. Do Not name it DCIM folder there as it will cause issues.
If your OS crash and burns, all your data and backups are on the data drive... everything you need for a full reload.
No perfect but you can easily backup a stock Samsung like this and carry everything you need to do a full rebuild in the phone.

So I was able to transfer it from the tab s7 but not the note 9, so whatever

Between Swift backup and nova prime- can one not get everything backed up completely including app data?

dj24 said:
Between Swift backup and nova prime- can one not get everything backed up completely including app data?
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I've never heard of those, but I will try. Thank you!

link1227 said:
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I've never heard of those, but I will try. Thank you!
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The reason you do a factory reset most times is to give the OS a clean slate.
Migrating app data can also migrate problem(s). If the degradation is subtle you may never pick it up.
A fast running, stable, glitch free platform is worth a little more set up time.

Your can only backup/recovery full data on a rooted device.

If you use the SD card as a data drive, backup the apps that allow there. Take some screen shots of the homescreen layout/icon pack apk used, use SmartSwitch to save homescreen, backup contacts and use ApkExport to save installable copies for quick reload. Backup all passwords.
I use ColorNote to save all bookmarks and many of my notes because it backups to the SD card.
Hyperlinks can open directly from it.
Takes about 2 hours to get it back to 99%. If you organize it, it's not that bad. I keep a master backup folder that has that kit in it.
♤Preplanning is the key, otherwise it's a data gauntlet.
The first load is the hardest. After 2 back to back boot loops I stopped screwing around with reloads and got very efficient at it
A couple weeks ago I brought my second N10+ online. I simply swapped the older N10+'s SD and sim card to it. It didn't take long to set it up.