Hi all, I just had a quick question about TiBu... since I just started recently flashing nightlies and what not I've had to rely on it to keep my apps safe, but I was wondering if it stores the location of the app and will restore it appropriately? I need some apps to stay on the sdcard because of very limited system storage with the roms I'm using. Thanks
edit: Well, in case anyone is wondering, it doesn't. Just did a batch restore on a fresh CM10 install and it put all it could on internal storage, however it did move a few that wouldn't fit automatically to the sdcard. It's too bad, I doubt it would be much work to save where the app was stored... oh well.
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Currently running GC FE 2.0
When I use Tibu I back up all apps and system data, correct?
Then when I restore I just restore apps and missing data? I always screw it up.
2nd.....I've noticed that my internal memory is going down nore and more each day. I know apps get used and whatnot, but is there a way to bring that memory back up?
3rd.....I have the app apps2sd card. If i were to transfer my apps there would their data carry over? once I have the apps on my card....say I flash back to stock, how do I get the apps off the card?
I think thats all for now.
Thanks in advance!
putney1477 said:
Currently running GC FE 2.0
When I use Tibu I back up all apps and system data, correct?
Then when I restore I just restore apps and missing data? I always screw it up.
2nd.....I've noticed that my internal memory is going down nore and more each day. I know apps get used and whatnot, but is there a way to bring that memory back up?
3rd.....I have the app apps2sd card. If i were to transfer my apps there would their data carry over? once I have the apps on my card....say I flash back to stock, how do I get the apps off the card?
I think thats all for now.
Thanks in advance!
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1. I never back up my system data, but that is just me. If you have important sms you can use SMS Backup to save those. Reason I don't backup system data is when you flash a different ROM there is always a chance that there were modifications to system apps on your previous ROM. Restoring system data in this case will cause issues.
2. Stop looking at that and you will be fine. Android handles your system memory for you. It allots a specific amount of RAM for each open app. When there isn't anymore it closes one of your open apps that may be running in the background.
3. you shouldn't need to do apps2sd on this phone unless you keep a TON of apps on your phone. You have over 1GB of internal storage for apps. Not all apps like to be moved to SD and any widget will not work if the app is on SD.
putney1477 said:
Currently running GC FE 2.0
When I use Tibu I back up all apps and system data, correct?
Then when I restore I just restore apps and missing data? I always screw it up.
2nd.....I've noticed that my internal memory is going down nore and more each day. I know apps get used and whatnot, but is there a way to bring that memory back up?
3rd.....I have the app apps2sd card. If i were to transfer my apps there would their data carry over? once I have the apps on my card....say I flash back to stock, how do I get the apps off the card?
I think thats all for now.
Thanks in advance!
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Regarding the memory question... gummy 2.0 has tweaks for its mem allocation... the revs had done a great job ... but I found this script to give me and extra UMPH ... my mem seems to be stead 125-160M in any giving circumstance ....
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I have moved all the apps I have that let me, to my SD card through the stock systems menu>settings>manage applications>Move to SD options.
I want to flash a new ROM. After flashing the ROM. Will all the data for those apps carry over? Is there anything that needs to be done to get them to work? Or will I boot up with the new ROM and go to app drawer and all the apps will still be there working just fine?
Also, when people talk about restoring apps, not data, I'm not quite sure how this works......
I have MyBackup Pro/Root version. Is App Data the data that is not supposed to be restored? From my understanding, that is what, for example, keeps the progress I have made in a game. Otherwise I have to start over. (And I JUST fully upgraded my level 10 car in Drag Racing! Ha ha).
Any help would be appreciated. Tried searching but didn't find anything related exactly to this. Well I did find one thread, but the OP fixed and and simply stated he fixed it, not how.
generally when people are talking about restoring user apps+data and not system data, they are referring to Titanium Backup which is the de facto in backup/restore, and there are options when restoring. you never restore system data or system apps, but any user apps+data is ok to restore.
i dont know about anything related to apps on SD. i NEVER use it.
Moving all your apps to the sd card is a waste of time. It will do nothing for you. It will not save your app data. Best to leave them on the phone. Backup your user apps and apps data as Pirateghost suggested with Titanium. Wipe the phone, install your new ROM and use titanium to restore your apps and apps data only. Do not backup or restore any system apps. Unless titanium backup has changed it will not restore apps MOVED to the sd card to the sd card. It will restore them on the phone's memory. That is why I suggest keeping your apps on the phone's internal memory.
Ah. Guess I should not believe the benefits flaunted around all the App 2 SD card things. I think it was that APP2SD App that says it frees up available phone memory when you move apps from phone to SD. Made sense to me..
I guess the phone has some space set aside for it's "RAM"? And no apps will be able to use that as storage space?
I'll move the stuff back then before I do the backup. Also, when I first started with Android and modding it, I bought MyBackup Pro. Does Titanium Backup do something better/different?
Titanium will also backup the app data. Example: game saves.
OK good to know. I'll probably buy that then.
Last question then with TB. When you restore apps with it, will it keep track in market that it's installed? I remember when I restored with MyBackup Pro, those apps were not listed under "My Apps" in market place, and didn't show as "installed" in market place, and therefore would not update. I had to uninstall them and install from market anyway... Does TB take care of things on that end?
the only time I used app 2 SD card is for the memory,sure some apps are like 2+mbs but it helps to move apps 2 Sd card to save from internal memory.. thats all.
I use Titanium back up and I just do a back up here and there.. and I just re flashed a rom and it just restored all my apps again. But also if you have (which im sure you do) Rom manager just do a ROM back up/System back whatever you want to call it. Its always good to do.
GTIVRon said:
OK good to know. I'll probably buy that then.
Last question then with TB. When you restore apps with it, will it keep track in market that it's installed? I remember when I restored with MyBackup Pro, those apps were not listed under "My Apps" in market place, and didn't show as "installed" in market place, and therefore would not update. I had to uninstall them and install from market anyway... Does TB take care of things on that end?
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yes, Tibu takes care of that for you. there is even a 'market doctor' built in that will scan apps and add stuff to market for you
CYRAXDroid said:
the only time I used app 2 SD card is for the memory,sure some apps are like 2+mbs but it helps to move apps 2 Sd card to save from internal memory.. thats all.
I use Titanium back up and I just do a back up here and there.. and I just re flashed a rom and it just restored all my apps again. But also if you have (which im sure you do) Rom manager just do a ROM back up/System back whatever you want to call it. Its always good to do.
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You mean running out of internal storage space? Or was it taking a chunk out of the RAM memory?
Pirateghost said:
yes, Tibu takes care of that for you. there is even a 'market doctor' built in that will scan apps and add stuff to market for you
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Thanks! I'll definitely buy it now..
Here is the issue. I use Titanium at the moment. I have many apps installed on my phone; so many that I HAVE to use the sd card for quite a few.
Now when I install a new ROM it creates a problem. I can't just use Titanium to install my apps in one batch step since Titanium only installs to the phone by default. I have to select about half. Then move them over to the sd card manually. Then go back and select some more. Then move them to the card. And then do the same with the last remaining apps. This tends to take some time to do and is a real pain.
Is there a backup software that will install everything as it was when it was backed up? If they were originally on the sd card then I want those apps to restore to the card by default. Is there anything like that?
I use Tom tool box pro and I'm pretty sure when you restore it restores everything account info themes all that stuff
In the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro
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Thanks for responding. Restoring account info and especially themes can cause issues jumping between ROMs. Would never do that. But does it restore apps originally on the sd card back on the sd card; or does it install everything on phone? That is all I care to know about.
Not sure what app would do what you want, but I put the word out there with the dev of ROM Cleaner.
His script backs up all your apps, wifi/BT/mail accounts and re-installs them before the first boot is even initiated. It also deletes unwanted apps/widgets that come with most sense ROMs. The great thing is if you dont want to delete all the apps and widgets that his script deletes, you can make it to where it won't. its very customizable in that aspect. Edit: You have to run a separate script to restore the wifi/BT/mail accounts, which you obviously don't need to if you don't want.
Check out his thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050283
Patraics is a nice guy and VERY quick to respond to any questions you may have. I posted the question not even 5 minutes ago and already got a response saying that he will look into it.
EDIT: Because of his scripts, i don't even use TB anymore. His way is easier and less time consuming.
I'll have to look into it. I like Titanium backup with everything it does. But I don't know why it is so difficult for it to restore aps to the same location where they backed them up from. Going to send a suggestion to TB too.
Agoattamer said:
I'll have to look into it. I like Titanium backup with everything it does. But I don't know why it is so difficult for it to restore aps to the same location where they backed them up from. Going to send a suggestion to TB too.
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TB does have some useful features, like freezing and uninstalling system apps. But realistically, if you arent going to use those system apps anyways, you can just have ROM Cleaner delete them before they even get the chance to be fully installed.
On the other hand, TB also does things that as flashaholics, we don't want it to do, like backup app data that can mess up a fresh flash. which is why I don't use it.
Although it does suck having to start angry birds from the beginning every time I find a new daily driver.... lol
Just an FYI though, IF you do decide to go ahead with ROM Cleaner, when it backs up your apps, it doesnt compress them or anything like that, it puts them all in a folder and then just leaves them there, leaving you to do the clean up, if you don't want those back ups to be there anymore.
Try my backup root
muneebrocks said:
Try my backup root
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Why? Does it do what I asked?
My Backup Pro
For backing up apps I have found My Backup Pro to be very simple. Will backup all apps & media and or data. Also had freeze, unfreeze, wipe cache and wipe data capabilities. Curious why storing all apps on system instead of S.D. card at all? Will take up all of your storage space on system and slow your system down. Also if connecting to desktop only have access to S.D. card so that also limits your accessibility to your apps.
Tbo haven't have an issue of apps not going to SD with titanium backup. Exp, my xda app is on the SD and when I restore its back to SD. Dunno how but ill look and see
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Agoattamer said:
Here is the issue. I use Titanium at the moment. I have many apps installed on my phone; so many that I HAVE to use the sd card for quite a few.
Now when I install a new ROM it creates a problem. I can't just use Titanium to install my apps in one batch step since Titanium only installs to the phone by default. I have to select about half. Then move them over to the sd card manually. Then go back and select some more. Then move them to the card. And then do the same with the last remaining apps. This tends to take some time to do and is a real pain.
Is there a backup software that will install everything as it was when it was backed up? If they were originally on the sd card then I want those apps to restore to the card by default. Is there anything like that?
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Titanium does what you ask. You just need to adjust your settings. Go to preferences>restoration location and chose "original location" instead of the default setting that allows titanium to choose.
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lorawithano said:
Titanium does what you ask. You just need to adjust your settings. Go to preferences>restoration location and chose "original location" instead of the default setting that allows titanium to choose.
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That makes me feel so much like a NOOB. I have mentioned this in a few places on XDA and other forums. I have yet to have one person mention that there was a setting in the preferences. I swear it was not there the last time I looked but that was.....well quite some time ago. Thanks so much for bringing it to my attention. Noticed that there were many other new selections in there too. I guess I had the better backup software all along.
So I've spent the past day re-searching all over these forums and on the internet trying to find a way to get past the low internal storage issue. From what I've read, I read that it is able to install your applications on your SD, which is what I do. However my internal storage still fills up somehow. So I assumed this is the application's data that cannot be moved from internal to SD.
However, further reading has brought me to partitioning and I tried installing several different ROMs on my Chacha, then using CWN Recovery I partitioned my SD which I thought would result in being able to move applications AND the data completely to the SD partition. However, using Link2SD or App2SD and even Darktremor, my internal memory still keeps filling up.
Am I doing something wrong? Or if all this fails, is there anyway to completely omit the use of the internal storage and run everything from my SD?
The fact I can only install like 6 applications is driving me up the wall. Thank you.
Use SuperOSR with Darktremor.
The only way of getting space back with the stock ROM is by resetting your phone to factory data. Otherwise, use CWM to clear the dalvik-cache when needed.
Hi there.
I found it very frustrating to run quickly out of storage as well.
Since a few weeks I use TitaniumBackup on this application rocks! It allows to move any application and its data to the SD. It even allows to integrate the updates into the ROM. The application is not free but cost only about 50HKD (abt 5EUR) and considering the great job it does it is more than worth it!
Hope this can help.
BR
Really? Titanium Backup does that? Wow, fascinating.
I am new to all this and want to install cm10.2 but have no need to unlock my phone, is this totally necessary? Also what data, apps do I loose etc? Am i also able to install a different browser on the rom as i quite like zirco browser (does not have incognito ). Many thanks
mattlou said:
I am new to all this and want to install cm10.2 but have no need to unlock my phone, is this totally necessary? Also what data, apps do I loose etc? Am i also able to install a different browser on the rom as i quite like zirco browser (does not have incognito ). Many thanks
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As long as you use the sim you had provided with the phone (e.g. if it's a at&t phone and you have an at&t sim), you don't have to sim unlock the phone. Also, I think c.m. 10.2 has no sim lock. Anyway, your apps and data (e.g. music, pictures) will all be deleted, so if you want to keep them, use a backup app like the titanium backup to keep them all, but if you do so, note that you have to install the app again after the c.m. setup, because as I said, all your apps and data will be deleted. As for the browser, of course you can install any other you want, although c.m. has already one.
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As long as you use the sim you had provided with the phone (e.g. if it's a at&t phone and you have an at&t sim), you don't have to sim unlock the phone. Also, I think c.m. 10.2 has no sim lock. Anyway, your apps and data (e.g. music, pictures) will all be deleted, so if you want to keep them, use a backup app like the titanium backup to keep them all, but if you do so, note that you have to install the app again after the c.m. setup, because as I said, all your apps and data will be deleted. As for the browser, of course you can install any other you want, although c.m. has already one.
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Thank you so much, done the titanium backup already, I have my pictures etc on cloud so thats not a problem, can I just back up apps to the SD card? I am aware not all apps can be stored there but the majority of mine are. Sorry to ask loads I want to be 100% sure before I flash the rom lol
mattlou said:
Thank you so much, done the titanium backup already, I have my pictures etc on cloud so thats not a problem, can I just back up apps to the SD card? I am aware not all apps can be stored there but the majority of mine are. Sorry to ask loads I want to be 100% sure before I flash the rom lol
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Don't feel sorry for asking "too much". That's what xda is for. Anyway, I think you can backup your apps in your external sd card but via a backup app (let's say the titanium backup as far as we've already mentioned it), because your phone doesn't have that option itself - as far as I know, I don't own a samsung phone. Check it out. If you can backup your stuff to the external sd card, I recommend you do it, so you'll be more sure for your precious apps' safety.