I just bought the Nexus S, but I fear the process of importing all my apps and settings from the N1 to the NS. I have about 80 apps, approx 20 paid apps and 20gb used on the external 32Gb memorycard. Of course, I will need to trim down the data amount to lower than 16Gb that is available on the NS. All of the apps that can, are installed on the SD card.
I have both a regular gmail account and a paid Google Apps account that are synked with my N1
So, must I set aside a whole working day manually re-installing all apps and reenter licence codes & settings & synk settings, or can I simple log in to the new phone and experience - like magic - that everything is transferred wirelessly? (I would consider believing in Santaclaus if that happened)
i moved from hero to nexus s and had the same problem, i used titanium backup to restore most of my apps+data, it will automatically link the apps to the market and install them on the next best place (for example it was on ext on my hero but got moved to internal on my nexus s)
but rom-/systemapp-settings had to be reentered manually because the rom got corrupted when i tried to restore my settings (for example google account)
hope this could help you out a bit.
I've gone through 4 phones and my paid apps have followed me. The non paid apps don't though. I definitely recommend Titanium Backup for those as well. Especially if you have game saves or something. I don't mind re-entering information for like connecting to my server but game saves that would piss me off to lose.
The free version I think you have to restore them individually but the paid version you can do them all at once I believe. Coming from the same android version always helps this process too.
Google login on the new phone should push a lot of stuff to the phone, but you might need to make sure the setting on the Nexus One to back up your setigns on the cloud/mothership is turned on. It's not been 100% reliable for me in the past moving from one phone to another.
Agreed with the others who suggest Titanium, it's been a life-saver.
We're assuming you're rooted, because to use Titanium, you must be rooted. Also, get the paid version, it's under $5 and adds a lot of functionality, like batch restore of all your apps.
On caveat when moving from one phone to another (or even one ROM to another) is that when you restore with Titanium, you just want to restore apps + app data...you don't want to restore system settings, this could, supposedly, lead to some trouble.
i see this asked a lot, but i must be confused. i thought that anytime you sign into an android phone with your account, all free and paid apps you have automaitically download to the phone, simply by signing in. i know when i completely wipe my phone, sign in upon boot up, and all apps return like i never even wiped. i can watch them install one by one over a 15 min period.
even my wallpaper gets saved to google's server, and placed back onto the phone as my wall paper. most settings too.
the one thing you will not have saved are texts, oh and any app-specific data from the old phone.
Your app history is tied to the sign in account (free and paid).
The data/settings for the applications is the issue at hand. Some developers sync the data to cloud services, some don't. For the latter you must to the titanium backup deal to move stuff or copy the sd card contents. Some devs opt to just create a folder on the sd card.
Most google applications (obviously) sync data/settings to the cloud. They offer devs a service to do the same. As more devs use it or their own you'll be able to seemlessly switch from device to device withou a hassle.
if i didn't want to use titanium is it as simple as zipping up the content on the nexus one's sd card and then somehow importing all contents (app data, etc) on to the nexus S?
then after that reinstall any apps that i have downloaded or bought?
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if i didn't want to use titanium is it as simple as zipping up the content on the nexus one's sd card and then somehow importing all contents (app data, etc) on to the nexus S?
then after that reinstall any apps that i have downloaded or bought?
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Here is the issue. I use Titanium at the moment. I have many apps installed on my phone; so many that I HAVE to use the sd card for quite a few.
Now when I install a new ROM it creates a problem. I can't just use Titanium to install my apps in one batch step since Titanium only installs to the phone by default. I have to select about half. Then move them over to the sd card manually. Then go back and select some more. Then move them to the card. And then do the same with the last remaining apps. This tends to take some time to do and is a real pain.
Is there a backup software that will install everything as it was when it was backed up? If they were originally on the sd card then I want those apps to restore to the card by default. Is there anything like that?
I use Tom tool box pro and I'm pretty sure when you restore it restores everything account info themes all that stuff
In the market
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro
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Thanks for responding. Restoring account info and especially themes can cause issues jumping between ROMs. Would never do that. But does it restore apps originally on the sd card back on the sd card; or does it install everything on phone? That is all I care to know about.
Not sure what app would do what you want, but I put the word out there with the dev of ROM Cleaner.
His script backs up all your apps, wifi/BT/mail accounts and re-installs them before the first boot is even initiated. It also deletes unwanted apps/widgets that come with most sense ROMs. The great thing is if you dont want to delete all the apps and widgets that his script deletes, you can make it to where it won't. its very customizable in that aspect. Edit: You have to run a separate script to restore the wifi/BT/mail accounts, which you obviously don't need to if you don't want.
Check out his thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1050283
Patraics is a nice guy and VERY quick to respond to any questions you may have. I posted the question not even 5 minutes ago and already got a response saying that he will look into it.
EDIT: Because of his scripts, i don't even use TB anymore. His way is easier and less time consuming.
I'll have to look into it. I like Titanium backup with everything it does. But I don't know why it is so difficult for it to restore aps to the same location where they backed them up from. Going to send a suggestion to TB too.
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I'll have to look into it. I like Titanium backup with everything it does. But I don't know why it is so difficult for it to restore aps to the same location where they backed them up from. Going to send a suggestion to TB too.
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TB does have some useful features, like freezing and uninstalling system apps. But realistically, if you arent going to use those system apps anyways, you can just have ROM Cleaner delete them before they even get the chance to be fully installed.
On the other hand, TB also does things that as flashaholics, we don't want it to do, like backup app data that can mess up a fresh flash. which is why I don't use it.
Although it does suck having to start angry birds from the beginning every time I find a new daily driver.... lol
Just an FYI though, IF you do decide to go ahead with ROM Cleaner, when it backs up your apps, it doesnt compress them or anything like that, it puts them all in a folder and then just leaves them there, leaving you to do the clean up, if you don't want those back ups to be there anymore.
Try my backup root
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Try my backup root
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Why? Does it do what I asked?
My Backup Pro
For backing up apps I have found My Backup Pro to be very simple. Will backup all apps & media and or data. Also had freeze, unfreeze, wipe cache and wipe data capabilities. Curious why storing all apps on system instead of S.D. card at all? Will take up all of your storage space on system and slow your system down. Also if connecting to desktop only have access to S.D. card so that also limits your accessibility to your apps.
Tbo haven't have an issue of apps not going to SD with titanium backup. Exp, my xda app is on the SD and when I restore its back to SD. Dunno how but ill look and see
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Here is the issue. I use Titanium at the moment. I have many apps installed on my phone; so many that I HAVE to use the sd card for quite a few.
Now when I install a new ROM it creates a problem. I can't just use Titanium to install my apps in one batch step since Titanium only installs to the phone by default. I have to select about half. Then move them over to the sd card manually. Then go back and select some more. Then move them to the card. And then do the same with the last remaining apps. This tends to take some time to do and is a real pain.
Is there a backup software that will install everything as it was when it was backed up? If they were originally on the sd card then I want those apps to restore to the card by default. Is there anything like that?
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Titanium does what you ask. You just need to adjust your settings. Go to preferences>restoration location and chose "original location" instead of the default setting that allows titanium to choose.
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Titanium does what you ask. You just need to adjust your settings. Go to preferences>restoration location and chose "original location" instead of the default setting that allows titanium to choose.
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That makes me feel so much like a NOOB. I have mentioned this in a few places on XDA and other forums. I have yet to have one person mention that there was a setting in the preferences. I swear it was not there the last time I looked but that was.....well quite some time ago. Thanks so much for bringing it to my attention. Noticed that there were many other new selections in there too. I guess I had the better backup software all along.
I'm looking at buying Titanium Backup Pro, but I need to know if it does a few things first (some required, some not,) and if not, how to ask the developers to add them.
I know that TB supports AES-256 encryption of app data, supports backing up to box.net, and supports backup scheduling. But can it support all three of those at once? E.g. do regular encrypted backups to box.net. I've seen conflicting information about this, need to know what the verdict is.
I also need to know if TB will store its own settings (e.g. filters, backup lists, etc) on to android's backup service instead of just the SD card. The idea is that I can move to a new rom or even a new phone without regard to whether or not the SD card remains intact. Effectively: sign into google play, google play picks up TB and restores its settings from the cloud, with one click TB gets to work restoring according to my parameters, regardless of the state of the SD card. With any luck, my launcher and other configurations are how I left them (I'll probably never move away from AOSP roms, or roms that are close to it.)
Does TB support shadow copies of backups? If so, can it be integrated into the above?
And finally, can TB detect which apps make use of android's cloud service, and leave their data alone? (e.g. don't merge the backed up data into them, instead let google play take care of that.)
Basically what I'm aiming for is a secured stateless android, so to speak.
I have read all the posts on web related to the questions i am posting below. After spending over many hours on this effort, i decided it is best to ask here before i waste more time. Here is the situation:
Old phone - Galaxy S4, new phone - LG Q7+ (tmobile), Task at hand is moving apps/data to new phone.
On old phone, i am not able to see an option to force "sync" or time it when i go into Settings -> Accounts -> Backup & Reset
It does indicated that i have correctly setup the backup gmail account & have two accounts (google & whatsapp) on Accounts.
The last backup was done 12 hours ago on the samsung, but when i try to restore it on the LG - it fails. I do not see any SMS or photos on my new phone. Only apps are being restored, but not data.
Next, i tried LG Mobile Switch, which fails because of unknown reason. BTW i have SD card on the old S4, but none on the new LG
All this is being done on wifi at home because the new phone does not have a SIM card yet. I was planning to move the sim card from old to new phone, if the restore was successful into LG Q7+
Where am i going wrong ? Buying another SD card for the LG is not possible, because i want to accomplish this task within next 24 hours.
Should i be trying Helium backup / restore since the devices are from 2 different manufacturers ? Everything i read seem to indicate that this should be easy to do, but i am unsuccessful.
BTW - the galaxy S4 is running android 4.4.4
Thanks for any comments.
Here is what i found out and wanted to share it here.....
LG mobile switch app is not robust enough to handle varied situations. In my case, it got stuck because it could not move media from SD card (galaxy S4) to internal storage of LG Q7.
Even trying to use that app without the media (just contacts and sms is all i wanted) did not work in my case. Perhaps could not work between android 4.4.4 to version 8.1.0 on my new Q7+
The only app data i had were in few apps (s-memo, sms, contacts, call logs, whatsapp). I didn't have much apps and so opted to go the free route.
Installed Super Backup and backed up my data from Galaxy S4 to google drive.
Super backup is not very user friendly and could not work well with a new phone which needed to pick up data from google drive (sync issues).
After fiddling around (since i am not android expert it took some time) i found the issue of why it was not easily finding my cloud files.
Reset my LG new phone to factory conditions, and without using any of the attempts it made initially to restore backups. Install Superbackup on new phone.
Restore everything from google drive.
Seperately, i made a whatsapp backup and restored it & photos on SD card had to be moved onto internal storage of Q7 (which does not have SD card storage).
After reading about the problem people have with video playback the latest OTA versions"IN: 11.0.6.7.KB05DA ; EU: 11.0.6.8.KB05BA ; NA: 11.0.6.7.KB05AA "
I want to ask what is the best way to backup as much data as possible before updating in case I need to wipe and downgrade later. On my older phones when I was rooted I would just fire up TWRP and take a nandroid backup before updating. If any problems I would just restore that.
What is the best alternative without root? Adb backup? and manual sync/copy of photos and stuff to the cloud/my computer. I read about adb backup that not working properly for some people and possible being deprecated in the future.
One of the reasons I got the 10+ was for the SD card slot. I use the SD card like a data drive. The internal memory is for the OS, programs and to temporarily store downloads (to check for malware).
Samsung's also have Smart Switch to back up settings data, apps, etc. That backup copy is also on the SD card (haven't tested it yet).
Right now I can do a complete reload with little or no internet connection and be good to go in about 2 hours.
You can use external memory instead though. Cloud crap takes too long, same with Playstore.
Use ApkExport to copy all your apps and updates then load directly from those copies.
Save all critical data on the external hd. Make sure your bookmarks are recoverable. Any app that allows you to backup their settings, do so and add those as well.
Make sure you copy your contacts and text messages.
I keep master folders on my phone for documents, music, vids, dcim by year, etc that match to those stored in my laptop which serves as a secondary backup to my SD card. Keep at least two backup copies and store in separate locations. Ideally one should be completely off line and stored in a earth grounded metal box.
Hdds are preferable to flash memory.
Workout a plan within the limitations of your device and software before you need it.
So I just got a Note20 Ultra and had a Note 9. I used smart switch and samsung cloud to transfer everything. The apps transferred fine, but none of the app data did.
I was able transfer everything to my Tab S7+ just fine, and it even syncs with my apps. Like if I make it to another level of a game on the Note 9 it will carry over to the tab. Why isn't it doing that with the Note20?
May not work well with different devices and especially OS's.
Never use it to store critical data.
Apparently it does not save secure folder data.
If it doesn't work right you may need to do a factory reset and hand load.
I use it to save homepage settings, contacts and not much more. I load app from saved copies. A clean load can last a year or longer, a bad load won't.
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May not work well with different devices and especially OS's.
Never use it to store critical data.
Apparently it does not save secure folder data.
If it doesn't work right you may need to do a factory reset and hand load.
I use it to save homepage settings, contacts and not much more. I load app from saved copies. A clean load can last a year or longer, a bad load won't.
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It's the same OS though, on all devices. It's just not syncing the app data correctly, and helium is outdated now
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It's the same OS though, on all devices. It's just not syncing the app data correctly, and helium is outdated now
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Apps that allow backup like Poweramp, ColorNote, Digi Clock are hard or impossible to recreate. Fortunately they allow for complete backup. The lesser apps I don't worry about.
Homepage settings however are a pain and can't be completely backed up. I keep a image of my favorite icon pack from Galaxy store so I can easily search for it. Shortcuts need to be recreated. SmartSwitch will partially recreate homepage but loses the icon pack, icon/folder position and so on.
Use your SD card as a data drive; all critical data and backups go here. Redundantly back this up to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC. Use ApkExport to make installable copies of all your apps and app updates; no Playstore needed for a reload. Do not encrypt data drives, ever... or you will lose data eventually.
Only loaded apps, the DCIM and download folder go on internal memory. Regularly backup the DCIM folder to the data drive. Do Not name it DCIM folder there as it will cause issues.
If your OS crash and burns, all your data and backups are on the data drive... everything you need for a full reload.
No perfect but you can easily backup a stock Samsung like this and carry everything you need to do a full rebuild in the phone.
So I was able to transfer it from the tab s7 but not the note 9, so whatever
Between Swift backup and nova prime- can one not get everything backed up completely including app data?
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Between Swift backup and nova prime- can one not get everything backed up completely including app data?
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I've never heard of those, but I will try. Thank you!
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I've never heard of those, but I will try. Thank you!
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The reason you do a factory reset most times is to give the OS a clean slate.
Migrating app data can also migrate problem(s). If the degradation is subtle you may never pick it up.
A fast running, stable, glitch free platform is worth a little more set up time.
Your can only backup/recovery full data on a rooted device.
If you use the SD card as a data drive, backup the apps that allow there. Take some screen shots of the homescreen layout/icon pack apk used, use SmartSwitch to save homescreen, backup contacts and use ApkExport to save installable copies for quick reload. Backup all passwords.
I use ColorNote to save all bookmarks and many of my notes because it backups to the SD card.
Hyperlinks can open directly from it.
Takes about 2 hours to get it back to 99%. If you organize it, it's not that bad. I keep a master backup folder that has that kit in it.
♤Preplanning is the key, otherwise it's a data gauntlet.
The first load is the hardest. After 2 back to back boot loops I stopped screwing around with reloads and got very efficient at it
A couple weeks ago I brought my second N10+ online. I simply swapped the older N10+'s SD and sim card to it. It didn't take long to set it up.